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Banksy - 'The Banality of the Banality of Evil', by spirit on Oct 31, 2013 20:05:19 GMT 1, I thought he was asking if $310,400 was normal for a Banksy Oil painting at this point in the auction...
...to which my answer would be there's nothing really normal about either the painting or the auction...
I thought he was asking if $310,400 was normal for a Banksy Oil painting at this point in the auction...
...to which my answer would be there's nothing really normal about either the painting or the auction...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 31, 2013 19:36:12 GMT 1, Also, I'm humbled by the thanks, guys. I was a tiny (albeit talkative) part of this; my vote for MVP is def drachinfire for what is thus far an awesome collection of photos and sure to get much better when he's gotten a chance to geek out on some editing. Well I'm not thanking you till I get my $74k...
Also, I'm humbled by the thanks, guys. I was a tiny (albeit talkative) part of this; my vote for MVP is def drachinfire for what is thus far an awesome collection of photos and sure to get much better when he's gotten a chance to geek out on some editing. Well I'm not thanking you till I get my $74k...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 31, 2013 19:05:59 GMT 1, Think they wanna check it for fingerprints?
or just hang it in the station?
Think they wanna check it for fingerprints?
or just hang it in the station?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 31, 2013 19:02:31 GMT 1, That inflatable throw up completely fooled me
When someone posted a picture of it on here earlier I thought that was a bit of an odd ending but saw it as a kind of back to his roots thing...fine and all that but a bit meh...
Didn't check his site so so didn't realise it was INFLATABLE!
Just brilliant.
Cops arresting balloons. What an ending. Thanks Mr B!
That inflatable throw up completely fooled me
When someone posted a picture of it on here earlier I thought that was a bit of an odd ending but saw it as a kind of back to his roots thing...fine and all that but a bit meh...
Didn't check his site so so didn't realise it was INFLATABLE!
Just brilliant.
Cops arresting balloons. What an ending. Thanks Mr B!
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Banksy โข Weston Super Mare Print, by spirit on Oct 31, 2013 13:11:54 GMT 1, Would love this...
Can I pay you ยฃ1/week for 2000 weeks?
Would love this...
Can I pay you ยฃ1/week for 2000 weeks?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 31, 2013 12:11:37 GMT 1, Another fake sprung up overnight. Feet not on street - surely a schoolboy error. Spelling's a bit off too lol
Another fake sprung up overnight. Feet not on street - surely a schoolboy error. Spelling's a bit off too lol
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 31, 2013 12:02:34 GMT 1, The feet are terrible. As is the shading. Not doing it for me. I agree
While on the surface there's a lot about it that says Banksy , conceptually it seems a little obvious, missing the Banksy twist somehow, and its not up to his usual standard of execution. Compare this to the guy standing outside the strip joint for example - not in the same league at all.
The feet are terrible. As is the shading. Not doing it for me. I agree While on the surface there's a lot about it that says Banksy , conceptually it seems a little obvious, missing the Banksy twist somehow, and its not up to his usual standard of execution. Compare this to the guy standing outside the strip joint for example - not in the same league at all.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 31, 2013 11:44:23 GMT 1, "Wall St. Done today around 5:30am" @jsen88 hmmm....
If it is Banksy, and Im not 100% convinced it is, then I think it's a bit mediocre tbh... surprised he'd finish with that.
I looks to me more like someone else trying to do an image that people will think is a Banksy...
Time will tell I guess.
"Wall St. Done today around 5:30am" @jsen88 hmmm.... If it is Banksy, and Im not 100% convinced it is, then I think it's a bit mediocre tbh... surprised he'd finish with that. I looks to me more like someone else trying to do an image that people will think is a Banksy... Time will tell I guess.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 31, 2013 0:04:43 GMT 1, We need another 40+ pages to beat EBs thread EB has half as many as comments per page. but they have less posts per page EB has much less posts per page FYI
We definitely have more repetition lol!
We need another 40+ pages to beat EBs thread EB has half as many as comments per page. but they have less posts per page EB has much less posts per page FYI We definitely have more repetition lol!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 30, 2013 23:47:57 GMT 1, EB has half as many as comments per page.
We need another 40+ pages to beat EBs thread but they have less posts per page But we have more repetition
EB has half as many as comments per page. We need another 40+ pages to beat EBs thread but they have less posts per page But we have more repetition
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 30, 2013 23:32:23 GMT 1, Thankfully the area near NYY Stadium is a ghost town around World Series time this year The Met fan has spoken. Those must be ghost cars then lol
Thankfully the area near NYY Stadium is a ghost town around World Series time this year The Met fan has spoken. Those must be ghost cars then lol
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 30, 2013 23:27:46 GMT 1, at Yankee Stadium Love it!
But how does no one see him doing that on what looks like such a busy road??
at Yankee Stadium Love it! But how does no one see him doing that on what looks like such a busy road??
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Art Wanted, by spirit on Oct 30, 2013 23:23:37 GMT 1, Who said there aren't any fakes on ebay? Or are you just making stuff up as you go again? That's a serious blow to POW. If there were only 6 instances and the prints prove to come from their employees they should compensate the buyers IMO. Just to reiterate this article is 6 years old...
Who said there aren't any fakes on ebay? Or are you just making stuff up as you go again? That's a serious blow to POW. If there were only 6 instances and the prints prove to come from their employees they should compensate the buyers IMO. Just to reiterate this article is 6 years old...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 30, 2013 17:23:58 GMT 1, credit: mbrahney (instagram)
hmmm - its good but is it Banksy? Possibly, but if I had to bet I'd say not I think.
credit: mbrahney (instagram) hmmm - its good but is it Banksy? Possibly, but if I had to bet I'd say not I think.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 30, 2013 17:17:24 GMT 1, These were being sold outside the Housing Works Thrift Shop for $10.00. Can I have wiz's? Can I have Kyle's?
These were being sold outside the Housing Works Thrift Shop for $10.00. Can I have wiz's? Can I have Kyle's?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 30, 2013 17:15:30 GMT 1, Hi everyone - let me first start off by saying that this forum has been fantastic so far. I hate to reopen this discussion but I just came back from Union Sq and the "I am Banksy" t-shirt seller is back out. I ended up buying 2 shirts from him and also talked to him very briefly (he didn't seem very talkative). He brought 2 canvas signs today and was selling them for $40 each. Also, oddly enough, I asked him if the shirts shrink etc and he very simply replied "no" which is odd because I am sure that the "Gildan" brand shirts he is using almost always do. He is wearing a similar if not same outfit as yesterday. In the off chance that any of this is legit (I doubt it) I thought I would let everyone know that he is around. ***Newsflash Shocker***
โข Dodgy seller who sold out of $5 Tshirts for $20 each is back at it today!
โข Brought 2 signs today having sold yesterdays one for the price of a Banksy Canvas
โข Claims his shirts don't shrink when it is well known they do
What could it mean?
Hi everyone - let me first start off by saying that this forum has been fantastic so far. I hate to reopen this discussion but I just came back from Union Sq and the "I am Banksy" t-shirt seller is back out. I ended up buying 2 shirts from him and also talked to him very briefly (he didn't seem very talkative). He brought 2 canvas signs today and was selling them for $40 each. Also, oddly enough, I asked him if the shirts shrink etc and he very simply replied "no" which is odd because I am sure that the "Gildan" brand shirts he is using almost always do. He is wearing a similar if not same outfit as yesterday. In the off chance that any of this is legit (I doubt it) I thought I would let everyone know that he is around. ***Newsflash Shocker*** โข Dodgy seller who sold out of $5 Tshirts for $20 each is back at it today! โข Brought 2 signs today having sold yesterdays one for the price of a Banksy Canvas โข Claims his shirts don't shrink when it is well known they do What could it mean?
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Banksy โข Weston Super Mare Print, by spirit on Oct 30, 2013 15:44:35 GMT 1, I don't understand the love for the new prints when there are classics like this that don't get half the love. Good luck with the sale Agree with you 100%. This and bme are two of my favourites, and I would much rather have one of these than cyw or nola any day. me too.
I don't understand the love for the new prints when there are classics like this that don't get half the love. Good luck with the sale Agree with you 100%. This and bme are two of my favourites, and I would much rather have one of these than cyw or nola any day. me too.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 30, 2013 14:40:53 GMT 1, I think the Nazi works on a couple of levels...
First there is the simple visual contrast gag - the last thing you expect to see in that beautiful countryside scene is a nazi - its therefore amusing when you do.
But the title of the image is also important which references the "Banality of Evil" - a book by Hannah Arendt which reported on the trial of Adolf Eichmann.
The point of that book is that although being one of the major organisers of the Holocaust, Eichmann did not come across as anti-semitic or psychopathic - he was no monster. One doctor remarked that the only unusual trait Eichmann displayed was being more "normal" in his habits and speech than the average person. He displayed neither guilt nor hatred at his trial claiming he bore no responsibility as he was just doing his job.
In other words you don't have to be an "evil" person to do "evil" things. "Normal" people can do terrible things in certain situations.
In Banksy's image what we see is a Nazi (generally perceived as evil) doing something banally normal - sitting down and enjoying the view.
Of course Banksy adds the double twist of calling it The banality of the banality of evil. Still getting my head round that bit!
I think the Nazi works on a couple of levels...
First there is the simple visual contrast gag - the last thing you expect to see in that beautiful countryside scene is a nazi - its therefore amusing when you do.
But the title of the image is also important which references the "Banality of Evil" - a book by Hannah Arendt which reported on the trial of Adolf Eichmann.
The point of that book is that although being one of the major organisers of the Holocaust, Eichmann did not come across as anti-semitic or psychopathic - he was no monster. One doctor remarked that the only unusual trait Eichmann displayed was being more "normal" in his habits and speech than the average person. He displayed neither guilt nor hatred at his trial claiming he bore no responsibility as he was just doing his job.
In other words you don't have to be an "evil" person to do "evil" things. "Normal" people can do terrible things in certain situations.
In Banksy's image what we see is a Nazi (generally perceived as evil) doing something banally normal - sitting down and enjoying the view.
Of course Banksy adds the double twist of calling it The banality of the banality of evil. Still getting my head round that bit!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 29, 2013 23:57:34 GMT 1,
Doh!
Doh!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 29, 2013 23:12:22 GMT 1, Im going lower and saying $280k
(coz Banksy loves Nazis - or so I read in the paper)
Wheres the auction link again? Cant find it due to some idiot spamming the thread with crap about Tshirts...
Im going lower and saying $280k
(coz Banksy loves Nazis - or so I read in the paper)
Wheres the auction link again? Cant find it due to some idiot spamming the thread with crap about Tshirts...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 29, 2013 22:39:57 GMT 1, So did I. How much is being Banksy worth to you? He's a squillionaire you know! Once you're Banksy $5000 will be small change. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Shall I pm you my bank details for the wire transfer? haha i wouldnt buy one, i was just wondering if people did offer much to you to buy any Never got that far tbh. They said that wanted one and asked how much. I replied it was a joke and I didn't really have any Tshirts
(but don't tell Kyle that till after he's paid me his $74k please)
So did I. How much is being Banksy worth to you? He's a squillionaire you know! Once you're Banksy $5000 will be small change. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Shall I pm you my bank details for the wire transfer? haha i wouldnt buy one, i was just wondering if people did offer much to you to buy any Never got that far tbh. They said that wanted one and asked how much. I replied it was a joke and I didn't really have any Tshirts (but don't tell Kyle that till after he's paid me his $74k please)
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 29, 2013 22:33:08 GMT 1, So did I. How much is being Banksy worth to you? He's a squillionaire you know! 5quid 5 quid???
Did I not mention before.... NO TIME WASTERS
So did I. How much is being Banksy worth to you? He's a squillionaire you know! 5quid 5 quid??? Did I not mention before.... NO TIME WASTERS
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 29, 2013 22:28:35 GMT 1, i mean for one of the tshirts? So did I.
How much is being Banksy worth to you?
He's a squillionaire you know!
Once you're Banksy $5000 will be small change. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Shall I pm you my bank details for the wire transfer?
i mean for one of the tshirts? So did I. How much is being Banksy worth to you? He's a squillionaire you know! Once you're Banksy $5000 will be small change. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Shall I pm you my bank details for the wire transfer?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 29, 2013 22:25:00 GMT 1, Fine jerk. I'll get serious. $74,000. Best and Final Done! (I'll even throw in a free Banksy sticker)
Fine jerk. I'll get serious. $74,000. Best and Final Done! (I'll even throw in a free Banksy sticker)
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 29, 2013 22:21:08 GMT 1, Well if I HAD bought those shirts, so far I could have offloaded 5 on here lol. Maybe I'll knock some up myself. how much have you been offered? $5000
Well if I HAD bought those shirts, so far I could have offloaded 5 on here lol. Maybe I'll knock some up myself. how much have you been offered? $5000
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 29, 2013 22:06:41 GMT 1, Well if I HAD bought those shirts, so far I could have offloaded 5 on here lol.
Maybe I'll knock some up myself.
Well if I HAD bought those shirts, so far I could have offloaded 5 on here lol.
Maybe I'll knock some up myself.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 29, 2013 21:57:41 GMT 1, Anyone wanna buy a T-shirt and/or a sign? $20? $15? $10? $5?? A little surprised that I've actually had a few PMs about these
So for those inclined to take things a little too literally I'd like to make clear that this was an attempt at humour and I don't really have any T shirts or a sign to sell.
Carry on.
Anyone wanna buy a T-shirt and/or a sign? $20? $15? $10? $5?? A little surprised that I've actually had a few PMs about these So for those inclined to take things a little too literally I'd like to make clear that this was an attempt at humour and I don't really have any T shirts or a sign to sell. Carry on.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 29, 2013 21:11:44 GMT 1, I wonder if Mr K Sager gets artist resale rights lol
I wonder if Mr K Sager gets artist resale rights lol
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 29, 2013 21:02:54 GMT 1,
Anyone wanna buy a T-shirt and/or a sign?
$20?
$15?
$10?
$5??
Anyone wanna buy a T-shirt and/or a sign? $20? $15? $10? $5??
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