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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by saucyjack on Jan 5, 2016 19:10:56 GMT 1, Hello Art Enthusiasts!
I am very interested in the role of advertising, whether it is traditional or "guerrilla," paid advertising or earned advertising (PR) and how it relates to the current street/urban art world.
Here is an interesting article from 2008 to get things started:
www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/street-art-sell-out-guerilla-advertising-masquerades-as-graffiti-a-595692.html
And another from 2015:
animalnewyork.com/2015/dont-be-fooled-by-this-fake-street-art-its-actually-guerrilla-advertising-for-a-tv-show/
If you have other links to share, supporting any opinion, please share it!
I'll leave you with this excerpt of an interview featuring Tony Kaye:
What do you consider the greatest ad agency in the world right now?
I think that Banksy is by far the greatest advertiser/agency/client wrapped into one soul on the planet. No question. No question at all. A billion miles ahead of anyone. That’s the agency of the year for 2011, last year. And maybe next year.
I mean come on. Look at Banksy’s satirical images on Israel’s West Bank barrier. A girl being carried away by a bunch of balloons, a boy painting a rope ladder, and corners of the wall peeled away showing imagined lush landscapes behind. His work says think from outside the box, collapse the box and take a fucking knife to it.
Why do you think Banksy is so much better than effective agencies with huge global clients?
He is way ahead of the game because his ego is more crushed and more condensed than most corporate ad executives because he puts himself on the line. Every single day. He does what he believes in, does what he cares about. He is naked. He learns and moves on.
Banksy has just as many failures as he does successes, but he has the courage to go on, to create because he takes his ego out of the equation, in order to get his message out there. That’s who we, us in the conglomerate of the advertising machine, have to compete against.
www.shots.net/features/article/71986/tony-kaye%3A-ad-icon
Hello Art Enthusiasts! I am very interested in the role of advertising, whether it is traditional or "guerrilla," paid advertising or earned advertising (PR) and how it relates to the current street/urban art world. Here is an interesting article from 2008 to get things started: www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/street-art-sell-out-guerilla-advertising-masquerades-as-graffiti-a-595692.htmlAnd another from 2015: animalnewyork.com/2015/dont-be-fooled-by-this-fake-street-art-its-actually-guerrilla-advertising-for-a-tv-show/If you have other links to share, supporting any opinion, please share it! I'll leave you with this excerpt of an interview featuring Tony Kaye:
What do you consider the greatest ad agency in the world right now?
I think that Banksy is by far the greatest advertiser/agency/client wrapped into one soul on the planet. No question. No question at all. A billion miles ahead of anyone. That’s the agency of the year for 2011, last year. And maybe next year.
I mean come on. Look at Banksy’s satirical images on Israel’s West Bank barrier. A girl being carried away by a bunch of balloons, a boy painting a rope ladder, and corners of the wall peeled away showing imagined lush landscapes behind. His work says think from outside the box, collapse the box and take a fucking knife to it.
Why do you think Banksy is so much better than effective agencies with huge global clients?
He is way ahead of the game because his ego is more crushed and more condensed than most corporate ad executives because he puts himself on the line. Every single day. He does what he believes in, does what he cares about. He is naked. He learns and moves on.
Banksy has just as many failures as he does successes, but he has the courage to go on, to create because he takes his ego out of the equation, in order to get his message out there. That’s who we, us in the conglomerate of the advertising machine, have to compete against.
www.shots.net/features/article/71986/tony-kaye%3A-ad-icon |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 19:14:59 GMT 1, Hello Art Enthusiasts! I am very interested in the role of advertising, whether it is traditional or "guerrilla," paid advertising or earned advertising (PR) and how it relates to the current street/urban art world. Here is an interesting article from 2008 to get things started: www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/street-art-sell-out-guerilla-advertising-masquerades-as-graffiti-a-595692.htmlAnd another from 2015: animalnewyork.com/2015/dont-be-fooled-by-this-fake-street-art-its-actually-guerrilla-advertising-for-a-tv-show/If you have other links to share, supporting any opinion, please share it! I'll leave you with this excerpt of an interview featuring Tony Kaye:
What do you consider the greatest ad agency in the world right now?
I think that Banksy is by far the greatest advertiser/agency/client wrapped into one soul on the planet. No question. No question at all. A billion miles ahead of anyone. That’s the agency of the year for 2011, last year. And maybe next year.
I mean come on. Look at Banksy’s satirical images on Israel’s West Bank barrier. A girl being carried away by a bunch of balloons, a boy painting a rope ladder, and corners of the wall peeled away showing imagined lush landscapes behind. His work says think from outside the box, collapse the box and take a f**king knife to it.
Why do you think Banksy is so much better than effective agencies with huge global clients?
He is way ahead of the game because his ego is more crushed and more condensed than most corporate ad executives because he puts himself on the line. Every single day. He does what he believes in, does what he cares about. He is naked. He learns and moves on.
Banksy has just as many failures as he does successes, but he has the courage to go on, to create because he takes his ego out of the equation, in order to get his message out there. That’s who we, us in the conglomerate of the advertising machine, have to compete against.
www.shots.net/features/article/71986/tony-kaye%3A-ad-icon
What isit with you and advertising
Hello Art Enthusiasts! I am very interested in the role of advertising, whether it is traditional or "guerrilla," paid advertising or earned advertising (PR) and how it relates to the current street/urban art world. Here is an interesting article from 2008 to get things started: www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/street-art-sell-out-guerilla-advertising-masquerades-as-graffiti-a-595692.htmlAnd another from 2015: animalnewyork.com/2015/dont-be-fooled-by-this-fake-street-art-its-actually-guerrilla-advertising-for-a-tv-show/If you have other links to share, supporting any opinion, please share it! I'll leave you with this excerpt of an interview featuring Tony Kaye:
What do you consider the greatest ad agency in the world right now?
I think that Banksy is by far the greatest advertiser/agency/client wrapped into one soul on the planet. No question. No question at all. A billion miles ahead of anyone. That’s the agency of the year for 2011, last year. And maybe next year.
I mean come on. Look at Banksy’s satirical images on Israel’s West Bank barrier. A girl being carried away by a bunch of balloons, a boy painting a rope ladder, and corners of the wall peeled away showing imagined lush landscapes behind. His work says think from outside the box, collapse the box and take a f**king knife to it.
Why do you think Banksy is so much better than effective agencies with huge global clients?
He is way ahead of the game because his ego is more crushed and more condensed than most corporate ad executives because he puts himself on the line. Every single day. He does what he believes in, does what he cares about. He is naked. He learns and moves on.
Banksy has just as many failures as he does successes, but he has the courage to go on, to create because he takes his ego out of the equation, in order to get his message out there. That’s who we, us in the conglomerate of the advertising machine, have to compete against.
www.shots.net/features/article/71986/tony-kaye%3A-ad-iconWhat isit with you and advertising |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by saucyjack on Jan 5, 2016 19:19:02 GMT 1, Why? I dunno, intellectual curiosity?
I value the opinions of others and welcome new information on the subject. I suspect many here have opinions on the subject and a good discussion will result.
Isn't that the point of forums like this one?
Why? I dunno, intellectual curiosity?
I value the opinions of others and welcome new information on the subject. I suspect many here have opinions on the subject and a good discussion will result.
Isn't that the point of forums like this one?
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 19:35:32 GMT 1, Interesting reads.
In a way it reminds me of the controversial Benetton ads in the 90's and how effective they were but I still haven't a clue about what Benetton is selling.
top10buzz.com/top-ten-controversial-united-colors-of-benetton-ads/
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Fake on Jan 5, 2016 20:35:51 GMT 1, Street Art = Advertising
Street Art = Advertising
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 20:39:30 GMT 1, It certainly is advertised globally commercially.
This is a good blog. streetartisdeadyes.blogspot.com/
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Coach on Jan 5, 2016 20:45:42 GMT 1,
I didn't know that street art is dead had been resurrected.
I remember it from years ago.
Looks like it may now not be active though.
I didn't know that street art is dead had been resurrected. I remember it from years ago. Looks like it may now not be active though. |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by WOOF on Jan 5, 2016 20:50:45 GMT 1,
Good? That blog is overly whiney, and incredibly boring. No unique insights to speak of.
And the author sounds like they need a hug.
Good? That blog is overly whiney, and incredibly boring. No unique insights to speak of. And the author sounds like they need a hug. |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by saucyjack on Jan 5, 2016 21:01:06 GMT 1, I didn't know that street art is dead had been resurrected. I remember it from years ago. Looks like it may now not be active though.
I am happy to that artists are contributing to this conversation. Not all artists are advertising for a company (so to speak), but street art is, as Fake said, advertising. Advertising for their own "brand." Some artists use these images, post them to IG and other social media platforms to gauge the interest of fans. Based on that, the artist may or may not recreate that street piece in the form of a numbered edition. That is great, I have no problem with it. In fact, I support any artist with the chutzpah to put themselves out there! Just so there is no confusion, I SUPPORT IT.
Other artists use their work for commercial purposes, political reasons, or no reason at all. I can think of numerous artists who do absolutely no selling of their work at all. No prints, no canvases, no commissions, nothing. I cool with all of it.
I am also cool with transparency and questioning things. For example, here is one you all may like: I think that ETTGS is simply was long-form, corporate advertising campaign for Banksy. Sure it "focuses" on Thierry, but in reality it seems to put Banksy on pedestal, to be worshiped and admired. I shiny golden idol for the street art movement. And guess what... I loved every second of it. Just because I feel it was an advert, doesn't mean I dislike it. I consume many brands that advertise ad nauseam. Pun intended.
I didn't know that street art is dead had been resurrected. I remember it from years ago. Looks like it may now not be active though. It has been resurrected because I started a thread about PR/advertising and it is an applicable link I have not seen. So, thank you Ploppi. I am happy to that artists are contributing to this conversation. Not all artists are advertising for a company (so to speak), but street art is, as Fake said, advertising. Advertising for their own "brand." Some artists use these images, post them to IG and other social media platforms to gauge the interest of fans. Based on that, the artist may or may not recreate that street piece in the form of a numbered edition. That is great, I have no problem with it. In fact, I support any artist with the chutzpah to put themselves out there! Just so there is no confusion, I SUPPORT IT. Other artists use their work for commercial purposes, political reasons, or no reason at all. I can think of numerous artists who do absolutely no selling of their work at all. No prints, no canvases, no commissions, nothing. I cool with all of it. I am also cool with transparency and questioning things. For example, here is one you all may like: I think that ETTGS is simply was long-form, corporate advertising campaign for Banksy. Sure it "focuses" on Thierry, but in reality it seems to put Banksy on pedestal, to be worshiped and admired. I shiny golden idol for the street art movement. And guess what... I loved every second of it. Just because I feel it was an advert, doesn't mean I dislike it. I consume many brands that advertise ad nauseam. Pun intended. |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Dungle on Jan 5, 2016 21:01:08 GMT 1, I blame stik
I blame stik
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Coach on Jan 5, 2016 21:05:06 GMT 1, I didn't know that street art is dead had been resurrected. I remember it from years ago. Looks like it may now not be active though. It has been resurrected because I started a thread about PR/advertising and it is an applicable link I have not seen. So, thank you Ploppi. I am happy to that artists are contributing to this conversation. Not all artists are advertising for a company (so to speak), but street art is, as Fake said, advertising. Advertising for their own "brand." Some artists use these images, post them to IG and other social media platforms to gauge the interest of fans. Based on that, the artist may or may not recreate that street piece in the form of a numbered edition. That is great, I have no problem with it. In fact, I support any artist with the chutzpah to put themselves out there! Just so there is no confusion, I SUPPORT IT. Other artists use their work for commercial purposes, political reasons, or no reason at all. I can think of numerous artists who do absolutely no selling of their work at all. No prints, no canvases, no commissions, nothing. I cool with all of it. I am also cool with transparency and questioning things. For example, here is one you all may like: I think that ETTGS is simply was long-form, corporate advertising campaign for Banksy. Sure it "focuses" on Thierry, but in reality it seems to put Banksy on pedestal, to be worshiped and admired. I shiny golden idol for the street art movement. And guess what... I loved every second of it. Just because I feel it was an advert, doesn't mean I dislike it. I consume many brands that advertise ad nauseam. Pun intended.
When referring to it being resurrected I mean that it used to be a forum many years ago. It then disappeared, also years ago. But it seems that in 2015 it was resurrected as a blog. Older members will remember this. That's all.
I didn't know that street art is dead had been resurrected. I remember it from years ago. Looks like it may now not be active though. It has been resurrected because I started a thread about PR/advertising and it is an applicable link I have not seen. So, thank you Ploppi. I am happy to that artists are contributing to this conversation. Not all artists are advertising for a company (so to speak), but street art is, as Fake said, advertising. Advertising for their own "brand." Some artists use these images, post them to IG and other social media platforms to gauge the interest of fans. Based on that, the artist may or may not recreate that street piece in the form of a numbered edition. That is great, I have no problem with it. In fact, I support any artist with the chutzpah to put themselves out there! Just so there is no confusion, I SUPPORT IT. Other artists use their work for commercial purposes, political reasons, or no reason at all. I can think of numerous artists who do absolutely no selling of their work at all. No prints, no canvases, no commissions, nothing. I cool with all of it. I am also cool with transparency and questioning things. For example, here is one you all may like: I think that ETTGS is simply was long-form, corporate advertising campaign for Banksy. Sure it "focuses" on Thierry, but in reality it seems to put Banksy on pedestal, to be worshiped and admired. I shiny golden idol for the street art movement. And guess what... I loved every second of it. Just because I feel it was an advert, doesn't mean I dislike it. I consume many brands that advertise ad nauseam. Pun intended. When referring to it being resurrected I mean that it used to be a forum many years ago. It then disappeared, also years ago. But it seems that in 2015 it was resurrected as a blog. Older members will remember this. That's all. |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by saucyjack on Jan 5, 2016 21:05:39 GMT 1, There's another thread for that.
There's another thread for that. |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by saucyjack on Jan 5, 2016 21:09:32 GMT 1, 
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 21:18:48 GMT 1, Yours maybe, but far from everyone's.
Yours maybe, but far from everyone's. |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by saucyjack on Jan 5, 2016 21:28:04 GMT 1, Yours maybe, but far from everyone's.
May I ask you to elaborate on your position on this matter?
Yours maybe, but far from everyone's. I'm assuming you are Martyn, the founder and director of the Nuart Festival. Your opinion is very important to me, and this discussion. So I am not, in any way, disputing what you've said. (See my rather pedantic post above a-ways.) I am a big fan of your festival and follow it on FB. May I ask you to elaborate on your position on this matter? |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 21:35:04 GMT 1, Re Street/Urban Art and PR. Basically, if you want to transcend the cultures media and want to be seen in the tabloids and/or broadsheets, you generally need to pay a PR company, and it's still not guaranteed. If you're part of the culture, depending on what's happening that particular month, you'll get online coverage from Juxtapoz, Arrested Motion, Widewalls, Vandalog etc etc based on friendships and/or the journalists/magazines interests. Click bait items such as the "largest" the "loudest" the most "daring" etc etc will obviously get you broader coverage. Everything you've ever read in The Mail, The Times, The Guardian etc about street or urban art, has been paid for through a 3rd party. A middleman to "protect" supposed journalistic ethics.
Re Street/Urban Art and PR. Basically, if you want to transcend the cultures media and want to be seen in the tabloids and/or broadsheets, you generally need to pay a PR company, and it's still not guaranteed. If you're part of the culture, depending on what's happening that particular month, you'll get online coverage from Juxtapoz, Arrested Motion, Widewalls, Vandalog etc etc based on friendships and/or the journalists/magazines interests. Click bait items such as the "largest" the "loudest" the most "daring" etc etc will obviously get you broader coverage. Everything you've ever read in The Mail, The Times, The Guardian etc about street or urban art, has been paid for through a 3rd party. A middleman to "protect" supposed journalistic ethics.
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by saucyjack on Jan 5, 2016 21:38:41 GMT 1, Re Street/Urban Art and PR. Basically, if you want to transcend the cultures media and want to be seen in the tabloids and/or broadsheets, you generally need to pay a PR company, and it's still not guaranteed. If you're part of the culture, depending on what's happening that particular month, you'll get online coverage from Juxtapoz, Arrested Motion, Widewalls, Vandalog etc etc based on friendships and/or the journalists/magazines interests. Click bait items such as the "largest" the "loudest" the most "daring" etc etc will obviously get you broader coverage. Everything you've ever read in The Mail, The Times, The Guardian etc about street or urban art, has been paid for through a 3rd party. A middleman to "protect" supposed journalistic ethics.
Re Street/Urban Art and PR. Basically, if you want to transcend the cultures media and want to be seen in the tabloids and/or broadsheets, you generally need to pay a PR company, and it's still not guaranteed. If you're part of the culture, depending on what's happening that particular month, you'll get online coverage from Juxtapoz, Arrested Motion, Widewalls, Vandalog etc etc based on friendships and/or the journalists/magazines interests. Click bait items such as the "largest" the "loudest" the most "daring" etc etc will obviously get you broader coverage. Everything you've ever read in The Mail, The Times, The Guardian etc about street or urban art, has been paid for through a 3rd party. A middleman to "protect" supposed journalistic ethics. Good food for thought there, thanks! |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by kobron on Jan 5, 2016 22:13:05 GMT 1, street art?
it's complicated...
Action time, location (country), etc. systems.
in my country, street art (templates) are the years 1980-1989 the struggle against communism
Spray = fight = anticommunism - it was 100% !!
penalty: prison, no school (no future), no jobs, no money ...
nobody..
-classics from the 80s
ps.
and I'll tell you one thing:
Communism watched in my life and I see great similarities to the present time ...
and now mates with street art galleries invited by left-wing and financed by taxes (the unemployed and the very poor people), it is amazing!
greetings to Mr. Stik ... (sorry OK- I know that you do not know ..  )
street art? it's complicated... Action time, location (country), etc. systems. in my country, street art (templates) are the years 1980-1989 the struggle against communism Spray = fight = anticommunism - it was 100% !!
penalty: prison, no school (no future), no jobs, no money ... nobody.. -classics from the 80s ps. and I'll tell you one thing: Communism watched in my life and I see great similarities to the present time ... and now mates with street art galleries invited by left-wing and financed by taxes (the unemployed and the very poor people), it is amazing! greetings to Mr. Stik ... (sorry OK- I know that you do not know .. ) |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by kobron on Jan 5, 2016 23:03:50 GMT 1, StiK! 2011
Street artist and community fight for dismembered mural
stik.org/news/gdansk-community-mural-update.html
and very willing to review how it is financed ...
who, what and why ... 
Stick is just a small pawn on a chessboard ...
do you want? 
StiK! 2011 Street artist and community fight for dismembered mural stik.org/news/gdansk-community-mural-update.htmland very willing to review how it is financed ... who, what and why ... Stick is just a small pawn on a chessboard ... do you want? |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Fake on Jan 5, 2016 23:22:22 GMT 1, Yours maybe, but far from everyone's.
Ok, lets test it... show me one piece of street art that is not an advertisement.
I think the problem is you associate the word "advertisement" with something bad, or wanting to sell something. But that is not always the case. Advertising is telling a story, propaganda, for a opinion, a feeling, anything really.
An artist want's to tell you something, surprise you, give an opinion, or give you a feeling.
Any artwork the artist makes on the streets is an advertisement for the thing he or she wants to get across to the beholder.
Yours maybe, but far from everyone's. Well well.. meow! Ok, lets test it... show me one piece of street art that is not an advertisement. I think the problem is you associate the word "advertisement" with something bad, or wanting to sell something. But that is not always the case. Advertising is telling a story, propaganda, for a opinion, a feeling, anything really. An artist want's to tell you something, surprise you, give an opinion, or give you a feeling. Any artwork the artist makes on the streets is an advertisement for the thing he or she wants to get across to the beholder. |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by saucyjack on Jan 5, 2016 23:45:38 GMT 1, Very interesting insight into that piece, thanks for posting Kobron!
Very interesting insight into that piece, thanks for posting Kobron!
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by kobron on Jan 6, 2016 1:24:06 GMT 1, Very interesting insight into that piece, thanks for posting Kobron!
First To Fight ..
and now two times a year in the church ...
and you really are an Englishman?
Very interesting insight into that piece, thanks for posting Kobron! you know I'm an old hippie .. First To Fight .. and now two times a year in the church ... and you really are an Englishman? |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by natstan on Jan 6, 2016 4:13:38 GMT 1, Yours maybe, but far from everyone's. Well well.. meow! Ok, lets test it... show me one piece of street art that is not an advertisement. I think the problem is you associate the word "advertisement" with something bad, or wanting to sell something. But that is not always the case. Advertising is telling a story, propaganda, for a opinion, a feeling, anything really. An artist want's to tell you something, surprise you, give an opinion, or give you a feeling. Any artwork the artist makes on the streets is an advertisement for the thing he or she wants to get across to the beholder.
Totally agree.
Yours maybe, but far from everyone's. Well well.. meow! Ok, lets test it... show me one piece of street art that is not an advertisement. I think the problem is you associate the word "advertisement" with something bad, or wanting to sell something. But that is not always the case. Advertising is telling a story, propaganda, for a opinion, a feeling, anything really. An artist want's to tell you something, surprise you, give an opinion, or give you a feeling. Any artwork the artist makes on the streets is an advertisement for the thing he or she wants to get across to the beholder. Totally agree. |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 11:30:32 GMT 1, StiK! 2011 Street artist and community fight for dismembered mural stik.org/news/gdansk-community-mural-update.htmland very willing to review how it is financed ... who, what and why ... Stick is just a small pawn on a chessboard ... do you want?
Stik makes such a drama out of this stuff.
Just go to Poland buy a cheap container and paint some more doodles on it. It's not like he can't afford it now.
It's not like Bank Robber stole his puppy or mountain bike. It's some scrap with doodles on it that Lamberty managed to move on.
Either way it's a win win for Stik. If Bank Robber manages to get big money for the stuff the knock on effect is that Stik makes more money too. Plus he can keep on using his back story 
How many years has Stik in reality been doing this stuff on the streets?
For the talk advertised on his site it's £72 quid a ticket.
www.ial.uk.com/news/tag/stik/
"We are happy to announce an upcoming one-day conference to be held in London on 28th November 2015 entitled Recent Developments in Art and Cultural Property Law (pdf flyer here). The conference will cover a number of new and exciting legal trends in the area involving:
the new sentencing guidelines for heritage crimes
the new Museums Association Code of Ethics (2015)
street art and its tie-ins with the law
the discovery and reburial of the remains of King Richard III
the new copyright exceptions and their impact on the art world"
StiK! 2011 Street artist and community fight for dismembered mural stik.org/news/gdansk-community-mural-update.htmland very willing to review how it is financed ... who, what and why ... Stick is just a small pawn on a chessboard ... do you want? Stik makes such a drama out of this stuff. Just go to Poland buy a cheap container and paint some more doodles on it. It's not like he can't afford it now. It's not like Bank Robber stole his puppy or mountain bike. It's some scrap with doodles on it that Lamberty managed to move on. Either way it's a win win for Stik. If Bank Robber manages to get big money for the stuff the knock on effect is that Stik makes more money too. Plus he can keep on using his back story How many years has Stik in reality been doing this stuff on the streets? For the talk advertised on his site it's £72 quid a ticket. www.ial.uk.com/news/tag/stik/"We are happy to announce an upcoming one-day conference to be held in London on 28th November 2015 entitled Recent Developments in Art and Cultural Property Law (pdf flyer here). The conference will cover a number of new and exciting legal trends in the area involving:
the new sentencing guidelines for heritage crimes
the new Museums Association Code of Ethics (2015)
street art and its tie-ins with the law
the discovery and reburial of the remains of King Richard III
the new copyright exceptions and their impact on the art world" |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by FЯ on Jan 6, 2016 11:38:05 GMT 1, Thought i would be blocking saucyjack first, but sorry ploppi.. You are blocked.
enough of your farts already!
Thought i would be blocking saucyjack first, but sorry ploppi.. You are blocked.
enough of your farts already!
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 11:49:12 GMT 1, Thought i would be blocking saucyjack first, but sorry ploppi.. You are blocked. enough of your farts already!
As if I care about being blocked by a double glazing salesman type.
Not a bit surprised by your arrogance and insults. You cannot debate so resort to insults.
Thought i would be blocking saucyjack first, but sorry ploppi.. You are blocked. enough of your farts already! As if I care about being blocked by a double glazing salesman type. Not a bit surprised by your arrogance and insults. You cannot debate so resort to insults. |
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 12:12:15 GMT 1, The responses by "FR" seem to be because he only allows postive posts regarding Stik and whoever else he is selling on the day. The reason is obvious in that some people are only interested in using this forum to hype and to make money from people who believe the hype that their expensive print will be a great investment etc etc etc bla bla bla.
The insults show the real side of these people and how nasty they can get if they do not get their way.
If some on this forum have made a deal to promote a certain art and are not happy that all of the replies are promotion type positive replies but honest opinions and views then it speaks volumes about their immature attitude.
Other people use this forum to talk about art and the Urban art world and scene.
The responses by "FR" seem to be because he only allows postive posts regarding Stik and whoever else he is selling on the day. The reason is obvious in that some people are only interested in using this forum to hype and to make money from people who believe the hype that their expensive print will be a great investment etc etc etc bla bla bla.
The insults show the real side of these people and how nasty they can get if they do not get their way.
If some on this forum have made a deal to promote a certain art and are not happy that all of the replies are promotion type positive replies but honest opinions and views then it speaks volumes about their immature attitude.
Other people use this forum to talk about art and the Urban art world and scene.
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The Role of PR in Street/Urban Art (or vice versa), by Happy Shopper on Jan 6, 2016 12:13:36 GMT 1, If street art is advertising, because it's self publicity, then so is anything that anyone ever says or does ever!
Stupid conversation.
If street art is advertising, because it's self publicity, then so is anything that anyone ever says or does ever!
Stupid conversation.
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