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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by top on Feb 22, 2008 17:02:29 GMT 1,
..horrendous news..
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by sm on Feb 22, 2008 17:06:37 GMT 1, this looks bad. Only the lowest scum would steal from a childrens charity.
this looks bad. Only the lowest scum would steal from a childrens charity.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by bombshelter on Feb 22, 2008 17:10:41 GMT 1, I've just re-registered to make my feelings known on this issue as I have been personally involved in the auctions by winning one of them. I must say well done to you Harveyn in everything you've done and tried to do, I can understand why you can't continue given verbals attitude. I was lucky to get what I paid for (1 month after winning) and also luckily my money has been donated. Verbal never answered any of my emails and was a pain to deal with, I left no feedback as looking at his Diamond dealing account if I had given him poor feedback he'd of just been nasty back. Note that Verbals diamond dealing account is now closed and plenty of people are left with no diamonds and no refund. If you care to google "Christopher Whitnall" as a UK search other information will come to light that I won't comment on here. It's a real shame it's gone all pear-shaped.
Shit Thats some mad shit...Nice one CLb and good luck Harveyn, your best out of it mate
I've just re-registered to make my feelings known on this issue as I have been personally involved in the auctions by winning one of them. I must say well done to you Harveyn in everything you've done and tried to do, I can understand why you can't continue given verbals attitude. I was lucky to get what I paid for (1 month after winning) and also luckily my money has been donated. Verbal never answered any of my emails and was a pain to deal with, I left no feedback as looking at his Diamond dealing account if I had given him poor feedback he'd of just been nasty back. Note that Verbals diamond dealing account is now closed and plenty of people are left with no diamonds and no refund. If you care to google "Christopher Whitnall" as a UK search other information will come to light that I won't comment on here. It's a real shame it's gone all pear-shaped. Shit Thats some mad shit...Nice one CLb and good luck Harveyn, your best out of it mate
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by baracass on Feb 22, 2008 17:14:04 GMT 1, Shit! Let's hope part of him still remembers how to do the right thing.
Shit! Let's hope part of him still remembers how to do the right thing.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by daveanthony28 on Feb 22, 2008 17:22:54 GMT 1, The only good thing to have come out of this is Harveyn's name & ethos all intact which I'm sure will make next years auctions (if he take this up) hastle free and bring good to the charity and the buyers. I have not met you but I have enourmous respect for the time you have put in to this and also to bow out as gracefully without resorting to profanities while I'm sure you must have been pretty peeved to say the least.
The only good thing to have come out of this is Harveyn's name & ethos all intact which I'm sure will make next years auctions (if he take this up) hastle free and bring good to the charity and the buyers. I have not met you but I have enourmous respect for the time you have put in to this and also to bow out as gracefully without resorting to profanities while I'm sure you must have been pretty peeved to say the least.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by gozgoz on Feb 22, 2008 17:41:35 GMT 1, Pez - Honestly I have tried and I know you know what I have gone through to try and get this resolved. No communication, abrupt responses, swearing and now threats. Numerous people know what has happened some of which I cannot repeat on this forum. I have defended Verbal when his actions were indefensible. I did this just to try and get this process to run smoothly. Helen from Bluebell has been a star and believe or not she has had to deal with people directly who bought items and were complaining about not getting pieces or payment issues. GG - Your sentiment is 100% correct but I genuinely felt people needed to know so they could make up their own minds what to do.
u know how i feel about this and about you Harv.
If I ever have chance to see u, let me buy you a beer for a job well done.
Pez - Honestly I have tried and I know you know what I have gone through to try and get this resolved. No communication, abrupt responses, swearing and now threats. Numerous people know what has happened some of which I cannot repeat on this forum. I have defended Verbal when his actions were indefensible. I did this just to try and get this process to run smoothly. Helen from Bluebell has been a star and believe or not she has had to deal with people directly who bought items and were complaining about not getting pieces or payment issues. GG - Your sentiment is 100% correct but I genuinely felt people needed to know so they could make up their own minds what to do. u know how i feel about this and about you Harv. If I ever have chance to see u, let me buy you a beer for a job well done.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by Harveyn on Feb 22, 2008 17:51:51 GMT 1, Folks just to let everyone know that both myself and Bluebell have been aware of Chris's past since before Christmas. To be honest that was part of the reason I insisted that he make an interim payment of ยฃ3700.
Whilst I have not enjoyed dealing with Chris on a personal level I would add that I genuinely do not believe that he is repeating previous misdemeanors.
I am not sure why I am sticking up for the guy given the way he has behaved but I do think that his failings with respect to this charity fundraiser are more to do with attitude, approach and organizational skills. His past is his past.
Folks just to let everyone know that both myself and Bluebell have been aware of Chris's past since before Christmas. To be honest that was part of the reason I insisted that he make an interim payment of ยฃ3700.
Whilst I have not enjoyed dealing with Chris on a personal level I would add that I genuinely do not believe that he is repeating previous misdemeanors.
I am not sure why I am sticking up for the guy given the way he has behaved but I do think that his failings with respect to this charity fundraiser are more to do with attitude, approach and organizational skills. His past is his past.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by colonelkurtz on Feb 22, 2008 18:16:46 GMT 1, I was considering, and would of bought, something from the auctions as it is a good cause, but i'm sorry, why was this guy put in charge of collecting money through paypal, when history has shown he is completly untrustworthy when it comes to ebay and paypal.
Harvey, no offence but i don't feel sorry for you. I do feel admiration for you in trying to work with him, as you knew his background. But in no way should he have been involved so heavily in the process..defo not collecting the money.... defo not over seeing the whole process.
Softly softly catchy monkey.
I feel truly gutted for any artist that has given him work which they have grafted on, just like they have grafted to achieve the status they have now. Only to be ripped of by a fraudster who has abused the trust of a friend to enable himself to get in a position so that he can abuse the good nature of charitable forum members.
You can never whip the slate clean. Life doesn't work like that.
The fact that Harvey has aired this dirty laundry gives me even more concerns of the future of the auctions.
I don't think i will ever buy something from the auctions, the whole thing stinks
I was considering, and would of bought, something from the auctions as it is a good cause, but i'm sorry, why was this guy put in charge of collecting money through paypal, when history has shown he is completly untrustworthy when it comes to ebay and paypal. Harvey, no offence but i don't feel sorry for you. I do feel admiration for you in trying to work with him, as you knew his background. But in no way should he have been involved so heavily in the process..defo not collecting the money.... defo not over seeing the whole process. Softly softly catchy monkey. I feel truly gutted for any artist that has given him work which they have grafted on, just like they have grafted to achieve the status they have now. Only to be ripped of by a fraudster who has abused the trust of a friend to enable himself to get in a position so that he can abuse the good nature of charitable forum members. You can never whip the slate clean. Life doesn't work like that. The fact that Harvey has aired this dirty laundry gives me even more concerns of the future of the auctions. I don't think i will ever buy something from the auctions, the whole thing stinks
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by themightyreds on Feb 22, 2008 18:27:08 GMT 1, Just caught up with this thread.... unbelieveable... this low motherf***er Verbal has some explaining to do.
I feel i am one of the conned in this having donated several pieces that were not auctioned. If someone can PM me verbals email/address i will write him and ask for my pieces to be returned so i can auction them myself and make a direct donation.
Neil. You are one of the good guys and will not be associated with the bad doings of this auction.
I can only look forward to the next auction and will do what i can with donating even though i've been bitten on this one.!
Just caught up with this thread.... unbelieveable... this low motherf***er Verbal has some explaining to do.
I feel i am one of the conned in this having donated several pieces that were not auctioned. If someone can PM me verbals email/address i will write him and ask for my pieces to be returned so i can auction them myself and make a direct donation.
Neil. You are one of the good guys and will not be associated with the bad doings of this auction.
I can only look forward to the next auction and will do what i can with donating even though i've been bitten on this one.!
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by Daniel Silk on Feb 22, 2008 18:28:57 GMT 1, The only person at fault was Verbal, so its unfair to try and blame Harveyn or anyone else as they were just trying to help raise money for a good cause. The Charity Auctions were Verbal's idea, and have always been 100% his responsibility.
The only person at fault was Verbal, so its unfair to try and blame Harveyn or anyone else as they were just trying to help raise money for a good cause. The Charity Auctions were Verbal's idea, and have always been 100% his responsibility.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by stuey09 on Feb 22, 2008 18:32:58 GMT 1, Folks just to let everyone know that both myself and Bluebell have been aware of Chris's past since before Christmas. To be honest that was part of the reason I insisted that he make an interim payment of ยฃ3700. Whilst I have not enjoyed dealing with Chris on a personal level I would add that I genuinely do not believe that he is repeating previous misdemeanors. I am not sure why I am sticking up for the guy given the way he has behaved but I do think that his failings with respect to this charity fundraiser are more to do with attitude, approach and organizational skills. His past is his past.
That's nicely said Neil, very polite. The alternative version, however, is that Verbal is an unscrupulous t**t with no regard for anyone other than himself. Only IMHO of course.
Folks just to let everyone know that both myself and Bluebell have been aware of Chris's past since before Christmas. To be honest that was part of the reason I insisted that he make an interim payment of ยฃ3700. Whilst I have not enjoyed dealing with Chris on a personal level I would add that I genuinely do not believe that he is repeating previous misdemeanors. I am not sure why I am sticking up for the guy given the way he has behaved but I do think that his failings with respect to this charity fundraiser are more to do with attitude, approach and organizational skills. His past is his past. That's nicely said Neil, very polite. The alternative version, however, is that Verbal is an unscrupulous t**t with no regard for anyone other than himself. Only IMHO of course.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by Run Pig Run on Feb 22, 2008 18:34:56 GMT 1, The only person at fault was Verbal, so its unfair to try and blame Harveyn or anyone else as they were just trying to help raise money for a good cause. The Charity Auctions were Verbal's idea, and have always been 100% his responsibility.
eh?
no-one blamed harveyn.
The only person at fault was Verbal, so its unfair to try and blame Harveyn or anyone else as they were just trying to help raise money for a good cause. The Charity Auctions were Verbal's idea, and have always been 100% his responsibility. eh? no-one blamed harveyn.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by Daniel Silk on Feb 22, 2008 18:36:02 GMT 1, The only person at fault was Verbal, so its unfair to try and blame Harveyn or anyone else as they were just trying to help raise money for a good cause. The Charity Auctions were Verbal's idea, and have always been 100% his responsibility. eh? no-one blamed harveyn.
colonelkurtz
The only person at fault was Verbal, so its unfair to try and blame Harveyn or anyone else as they were just trying to help raise money for a good cause. The Charity Auctions were Verbal's idea, and have always been 100% his responsibility. eh? no-one blamed harveyn. colonelkurtz
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by seidbereit on Feb 22, 2008 18:37:09 GMT 1, I was considering, and would of bought, something from the auctions as it is a good cause, but i'm sorry, why was this guy put in charge of collecting money through paypal, when history has shown he is completly untrustworthy when it comes to ebay and paypal. Harvey, no offence but i don't feel sorry for you. I do feel admiration for you in trying to work with him, as you knew his background. But in no way should he have been involved so heavily in the process..defo not collecting the money.... defo not over seeing the whole process. Softly softly catchy monkey. I feel truly gutted for any artist that has given him work which they have grafted on, just like they have grafted to achieve the status they have now. Only to be ripped of by a fraudster who has abused the trust of a friend to enable himself to get in a position so that he can abuse the good nature of charitable forum members. You can never whip the slate clean. Life doesn't work like that. The fact that Harvey has aired this dirty laundry gives me even more concerns of the future of the auctions. I don't think i will ever buy something from the auctions, the whole thing stinks
If you had read the thread with a bit more care (and also the original auction threads) you would soon realise that the negative information only came to light long after most, if not all the pieces had already been sent to verbal. To suggest or imply that harveyn or anyone else knowingly gave verbal anything in the knowledge that he was a known criminal is just ill-informed and annoyingly so
Who knows how much worse things would have been if harveyn had put in the graft he has done?
I was considering, and would of bought, something from the auctions as it is a good cause, but i'm sorry, why was this guy put in charge of collecting money through paypal, when history has shown he is completly untrustworthy when it comes to ebay and paypal. Harvey, no offence but i don't feel sorry for you. I do feel admiration for you in trying to work with him, as you knew his background. But in no way should he have been involved so heavily in the process..defo not collecting the money.... defo not over seeing the whole process. Softly softly catchy monkey. I feel truly gutted for any artist that has given him work which they have grafted on, just like they have grafted to achieve the status they have now. Only to be ripped of by a fraudster who has abused the trust of a friend to enable himself to get in a position so that he can abuse the good nature of charitable forum members. You can never whip the slate clean. Life doesn't work like that. The fact that Harvey has aired this dirty laundry gives me even more concerns of the future of the auctions. I don't think i will ever buy something from the auctions, the whole thing stinks If you had read the thread with a bit more care (and also the original auction threads) you would soon realise that the negative information only came to light long after most, if not all the pieces had already been sent to verbal. To suggest or imply that harveyn or anyone else knowingly gave verbal anything in the knowledge that he was a known criminal is just ill-informed and annoyingly so Who knows how much worse things would have been if harveyn had put in the graft he has done?
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by romanywg on Feb 22, 2008 18:38:49 GMT 1, Folks just to let everyone know that both myself and Bluebell have been aware of Chris's past since before Christmas.
All very interesting and you have been a gentleman throughout all this Harveyn. But just out of interest, how did you find out about his past?
Folks just to let everyone know that both myself and Bluebell have been aware of Chris's past since before Christmas. All very interesting and you have been a gentleman throughout all this Harveyn. But just out of interest, how did you find out about his past?
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by Harveyn on Feb 22, 2008 19:02:51 GMT 1, colonelkurtz - I do think that is out of order. I only found out after the first set of auctions had been run and Verbal had all the art already. I have tried tirelessly to get the other pieces of art back and to get Verbal to pay any money owed to Bluebell paid.
colonelkurtz - I do think that is out of order. I only found out after the first set of auctions had been run and Verbal had all the art already. I have tried tirelessly to get the other pieces of art back and to get Verbal to pay any money owed to Bluebell paid.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by RBK on Feb 22, 2008 19:03:59 GMT 1, DON'T HAVE TO TIME READ ALL THESE POSTS....
PLEASE TELL ME THAT VERBAL DID NOT KEEP MONEY INTENDED FOR A CHILDREN'S CHARITY AND ADDITIONALLY KEPT ART THAT WAS TO BE AUCTIONED FOR SAID CHAIRTY....
DON'T HAVE TO TIME READ ALL THESE POSTS....
PLEASE TELL ME THAT VERBAL DID NOT KEEP MONEY INTENDED FOR A CHILDREN'S CHARITY AND ADDITIONALLY KEPT ART THAT WAS TO BE AUCTIONED FOR SAID CHAIRTY....
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by colonelkurtz on Feb 22, 2008 19:16:28 GMT 1, Sorry to have annoyed,
To reiterate my post, i have the utmost admiration for Neil in dealing with Verbal.
I didn't blame Neil for anything, nor do i want to p. off the forum moderators. I was just extremely surprised that Verbal would be allowed such control over this.
My post was never meant to offend, it asked the question as to why he was tasked with collecting the money.
I understand now that this was unknown at the time, and i do feel for Neil having to listen/ go through the bullsh1t to get to a resolution.
My post was based upon the assumption that Verbals history was known, which reading through it makes sense. You have allowed him to use the forum's name to gain funds/works.
I don't know Neil or Verbal or Silky but thought it would be a reasonable assumption that someone who has been put in this position would be a v. good friend.
I truly do hope that the auctions become successful and raise money for a truly deserving cause.
Sorry to have annoyed,
To reiterate my post, i have the utmost admiration for Neil in dealing with Verbal.
I didn't blame Neil for anything, nor do i want to p. off the forum moderators. I was just extremely surprised that Verbal would be allowed such control over this.
My post was never meant to offend, it asked the question as to why he was tasked with collecting the money.
I understand now that this was unknown at the time, and i do feel for Neil having to listen/ go through the bullsh1t to get to a resolution.
My post was based upon the assumption that Verbals history was known, which reading through it makes sense. You have allowed him to use the forum's name to gain funds/works.
I don't know Neil or Verbal or Silky but thought it would be a reasonable assumption that someone who has been put in this position would be a v. good friend.
I truly do hope that the auctions become successful and raise money for a truly deserving cause.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by Mrs Mouse on Feb 22, 2008 19:19:47 GMT 1, I don't know you Harvey, but I feel really sorry for the way things have turned out.
The past few weeks must have been a nightmare for you, and I hope no-one tries to make you feel bad about the situation.
It must have taken a lot of guts to bring this out into the open.
If we were still using the + and - system I would give you +100.
All the best.
I don't know you Harvey, but I feel really sorry for the way things have turned out.
The past few weeks must have been a nightmare for you, and I hope no-one tries to make you feel bad about the situation.
It must have taken a lot of guts to bring this out into the open.
If we were still using the + and - system I would give you +100.
All the best.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by RBK on Feb 22, 2008 19:24:11 GMT 1, DON'T HAVE TO TIME READ ALL THESE POSTS.... PLEASE TELL ME THAT VERBAL DID NOT KEEP MONEY INTENDED FOR A CHILDREN'S CHARITY AND ADDITIONALLY KEPT ART THAT WAS TO BE AUCTIONED FOR SAID CHAIRTY....
DON'T HAVE TO TIME READ ALL THESE POSTS.... PLEASE TELL ME THAT VERBAL DID NOT KEEP MONEY INTENDED FOR A CHILDREN'S CHARITY AND ADDITIONALLY KEPT ART THAT WAS TO BE AUCTIONED FOR SAID CHAIRTY....
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by Harveyn on Feb 22, 2008 19:24:28 GMT 1, colonelkurtz - Thank you for that. I do not know Verbal at all and do not even live in the same country. He informed people he was running a Dan Baldwin vase auction for charity and a few people started to make offers of donations. I suggested that we run a forum charity. Nothing of Verbal's past was known at this stage. I asked him if wanted me to run it and he said I could help but he wanted to collect the art and run the auctions. The rest is history.
I soon as I found out about what had happened in his past I contacted Bluebell and all decisions thereafter were made jointly in agreement with them. There was no right way or wrong way to handle this situation then just damage limitations.
colonelkurtz - Thank you for that. I do not know Verbal at all and do not even live in the same country. He informed people he was running a Dan Baldwin vase auction for charity and a few people started to make offers of donations. I suggested that we run a forum charity. Nothing of Verbal's past was known at this stage. I asked him if wanted me to run it and he said I could help but he wanted to collect the art and run the auctions. The rest is history.
I soon as I found out about what had happened in his past I contacted Bluebell and all decisions thereafter were made jointly in agreement with them. There was no right way or wrong way to handle this situation then just damage limitations.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by hanky on Feb 22, 2008 19:39:35 GMT 1, Harveyn
getting this back on beam, if there is any stuff in London you need a hand with give me a pm and I'll help you to get it rather than the outrageous twenty quid an item that is being proposed
Just happy to help
Harveyn
getting this back on beam, if there is any stuff in London you need a hand with give me a pm and I'll help you to get it rather than the outrageous twenty quid an item that is being proposed
Just happy to help
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by gozgoz on Feb 22, 2008 19:40:47 GMT 1, yeah i'll help if its in London
yeah i'll help if its in London
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by Run Pig Run on Feb 22, 2008 19:50:49 GMT 1, I dread to think what may of happened if harveyn hadn't of listed and kept track of everything. verbalkunt could of kept most of the money and art and no-one would've known.
I dread to think what may of happened if harveyn hadn't of listed and kept track of everything. verbalkunt could of kept most of the money and art and no-one would've known.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 22, 2008 20:18:36 GMT 1, Sorry if I'm being naive here, but was Verbals story about his daughter complete bullshit then or what? Don't want to hammer the guy unnecessarily but if it isn't true I can't really comprehend how someone would think that way. Or is the sorry tale that followed rooted in some despair none of us (esp those with kids) want to ever have to face.
Sorry if I'm being naive here, but was Verbals story about his daughter complete bullshit then or what? Don't want to hammer the guy unnecessarily but if it isn't true I can't really comprehend how someone would think that way. Or is the sorry tale that followed rooted in some despair none of us (esp those with kids) want to ever have to face.
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by loucastel on Feb 22, 2008 20:22:29 GMT 1, So what is the way forward with this thing? obviously it has to be resolved one way or another, does the forum try to sort it out, or is other action required?
So what is the way forward with this thing? obviously it has to be resolved one way or another, does the forum try to sort it out, or is other action required?
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by top on Feb 22, 2008 20:23:55 GMT 1, Sorry if I'm being naive here, but was Verbals story about his daughter complete bulls**t then or what? Don't want to hammer the guy unnecessarily but if it isn't true I can't really comprehend how someone would think that way. Or is the sorry tale that followed rooted in some despair none of us (esp those with kids) want to ever have to face.
..well remembered cocteau, feelin like it was utter lies, but do not know the truth..maybe we never will..
Sorry if I'm being naive here, but was Verbals story about his daughter complete bulls**t then or what? Don't want to hammer the guy unnecessarily but if it isn't true I can't really comprehend how someone would think that way. Or is the sorry tale that followed rooted in some despair none of us (esp those with kids) want to ever have to face. ..well remembered cocteau, feelin like it was utter lies, but do not know the truth..maybe we never will..
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by mammal2 on Feb 22, 2008 20:24:25 GMT 1, Folks just to let everyone know that both myself and Bluebell have been aware of Chris's past since before Christmas. To be honest that was part of the reason I insisted that he make an interim payment of ยฃ3700. Whilst I have not enjoyed dealing with Chris on a personal level I would add that I genuinely do not believe that he is repeating previous misdemeanors. I am not sure why I am sticking up for the guy given the way he has behaved but I do think that his failings with respect to this charity fundraiser are more to do with attitude, approach and organizational skills. His past is his past. That's nicely said Neil, very polite. The alternative version, however, is that Verbal is an unscrupulous t**t with no regard for anyone other than himself. Only IMHO of course.
Im with Stuey!
Folks just to let everyone know that both myself and Bluebell have been aware of Chris's past since before Christmas. To be honest that was part of the reason I insisted that he make an interim payment of ยฃ3700. Whilst I have not enjoyed dealing with Chris on a personal level I would add that I genuinely do not believe that he is repeating previous misdemeanors. I am not sure why I am sticking up for the guy given the way he has behaved but I do think that his failings with respect to this charity fundraiser are more to do with attitude, approach and organizational skills. His past is his past. That's nicely said Neil, very polite. The alternative version, however, is that Verbal is an unscrupulous t**t with no regard for anyone other than himself. Only IMHO of course. Im with Stuey!
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Charidee Complete & A Big THANK YOU!!!, by pezlow on Feb 22, 2008 20:25:32 GMT 1, Personally I think the police should be told.
By the way I would echo the comments above. I've exchanged numerous emails and pms with Harveyn about this. He has been an absolute star throughout. No blame at all can be attached to either Harveyn or Silky for this mess - it is all down to verbal.
Personally I think the police should be told.
By the way I would echo the comments above. I've exchanged numerous emails and pms with Harveyn about this. He has been an absolute star throughout. No blame at all can be attached to either Harveyn or Silky for this mess - it is all down to verbal.
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