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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by edcase on Feb 11, 2009 14:37:22 GMT 1, Hang on, this thread isn't about now? It's about 10 years time.I spend more time looking at my Herakut than the rest of my collection put together, and it is the piece that all of my non-collector friends make the most positive comments about. From standing in the Gallery talking to Frankie during the show, it was also very telling the amount and type of people who were passers by but who were naturally drawn into the gallery - all walks of life. Of all of the artists in the current 'scene' they are in my opinion one of the best placed to 'crossover'. Their street work is also amazing, and true to their beginnings not 'bandwagon jumping'. Edcase, you're right anything can happen in 10 years time and I don't want this thread to turn into pissing contest. I consider Herakut one of the talented artists mentioned on this board and very pleasing on the eye. However do you consider their art groundbreaking, progressive, timeless? I don't hence my current skepticism toward Herakut. But who knows.
Yes I absolutely do, and you can also see their style evolving with every new work. There is also a huge amount of meaning to their work, which a lot of people don't really notice, for example the 'feet' of characters going down into deer-like points / hoofs representing a desire not to be too connected to the world - being fleet-footed.
What is also fantastic is the unique dynamic between the two individual artists, and how they work a piece up from sketch form to finished piece - both in terms of the process and the artistic effect.
Hang on, this thread isn't about now? It's about 10 years time.I spend more time looking at my Herakut than the rest of my collection put together, and it is the piece that all of my non-collector friends make the most positive comments about. From standing in the Gallery talking to Frankie during the show, it was also very telling the amount and type of people who were passers by but who were naturally drawn into the gallery - all walks of life. Of all of the artists in the current 'scene' they are in my opinion one of the best placed to 'crossover'. Their street work is also amazing, and true to their beginnings not 'bandwagon jumping'. Edcase, you're right anything can happen in 10 years time and I don't want this thread to turn into pissing contest. I consider Herakut one of the talented artists mentioned on this board and very pleasing on the eye. However do you consider their art groundbreaking, progressive, timeless? I don't hence my current skepticism toward Herakut. But who knows. Yes I absolutely do, and you can also see their style evolving with every new work. There is also a huge amount of meaning to their work, which a lot of people don't really notice, for example the 'feet' of characters going down into deer-like points / hoofs representing a desire not to be too connected to the world - being fleet-footed. What is also fantastic is the unique dynamic between the two individual artists, and how they work a piece up from sketch form to finished piece - both in terms of the process and the artistic effect.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by snausages on Feb 11, 2009 16:36:50 GMT 1, Yes but the art market changes all the time. After all the White Cube gallery only opened 15 years ago. It achieved success through promoting and supporting the YBA's as a movement. Now they are a blue chip, branded gallery. 15 years ago you would have been saying that Hirst et al didn't have "real" gallery representation whatever that means. Fair enough, I have said I don't think Banksy should go running to an established gallery to give him credit. I could see Lazarides being in the same position as whitecube was years ago, but then again aside from a few I think they get some very questionable talent in there. And more to the point is that many of these artists don't even have real gallery representation in NYC. Yet the prices for their canvases are as high or higher than artists who do and who have a list of awards and major shows a mile long. It's set up for disaster imo.
I find a lot of the work here exciting too but it's only a small portion of the contemporary art world. And I think that the way you feel when you see contemporary art at art fairs is the same way those people would feel when they see urban art. At best I think the art market will grow by adding urban art fans but I personally don't think that the contemporary audience is going to warm up to urban art in any considerable way.
Yes but the art market changes all the time. After all the White Cube gallery only opened 15 years ago. It achieved success through promoting and supporting the YBA's as a movement. Now they are a blue chip, branded gallery. 15 years ago you would have been saying that Hirst et al didn't have "real" gallery representation whatever that means. Fair enough, I have said I don't think Banksy should go running to an established gallery to give him credit. I could see Lazarides being in the same position as whitecube was years ago, but then again aside from a few I think they get some very questionable talent in there. And more to the point is that many of these artists don't even have real gallery representation in NYC. Yet the prices for their canvases are as high or higher than artists who do and who have a list of awards and major shows a mile long. It's set up for disaster imo. I find a lot of the work here exciting too but it's only a small portion of the contemporary art world. And I think that the way you feel when you see contemporary art at art fairs is the same way those people would feel when they see urban art. At best I think the art market will grow by adding urban art fans but I personally don't think that the contemporary audience is going to warm up to urban art in any considerable way.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by snausages on Feb 11, 2009 16:47:57 GMT 1, Edcase, you're right anything can happen in 10 years time and I don't want this thread to turn into pissing contest. I consider Herakut one of the talented artists mentioned on this board and very pleasing on the eye. However do you consider their art groundbreaking, progressive, timeless? I don't hence my current skepticism toward Herakut. But who knows. I don't have anything against Herakut but for them to break Banksy's record especially in 10 years time is insane. I know it seems like money flows like water in the art world but really, half a million dollars for a young living artist is really insane and very rarely happens. I don't think any of these artists have a chance within 10 years now that (most) everyone has come back down to earth, Herakut especially.
Edcase, you're right anything can happen in 10 years time and I don't want this thread to turn into pissing contest. I consider Herakut one of the talented artists mentioned on this board and very pleasing on the eye. However do you consider their art groundbreaking, progressive, timeless? I don't hence my current skepticism toward Herakut. But who knows. I don't have anything against Herakut but for them to break Banksy's record especially in 10 years time is insane. I know it seems like money flows like water in the art world but really, half a million dollars for a young living artist is really insane and very rarely happens. I don't think any of these artists have a chance within 10 years now that (most) everyone has come back down to earth, Herakut especially.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by edcase on Feb 11, 2009 17:00:25 GMT 1, ten years is a looooooooooooooooong time!
let's see.
I also think when certain Parla works come to auction they may also start seeing some significant results. However he asserts such a tight control on primary market, and with relatively small volumes of inventory, it may be a few years yet.
ten years is a looooooooooooooooong time! let's see. I also think when certain Parla works come to auction they may also start seeing some significant results. However he asserts such a tight control on primary market, and with relatively small volumes of inventory, it may be a few years yet.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by skelly on Feb 11, 2009 17:52:00 GMT 1, I'm guessing anyone who didn't vote Banksy is lying to themselves about what they really think is the truth. I'm also guessing everyone who didn't vote Banksy aren't betting men, are you? Please? I'll put my collection up
I'm guessing anyone who didn't vote Banksy is lying to themselves about what they really think is the truth. I'm also guessing everyone who didn't vote Banksy aren't betting men, are you? Please? I'll put my collection up
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by pezlow on Feb 11, 2009 18:11:30 GMT 1, At best I think the art market will grow by adding urban art fans but I personally don't think that the contemporary audience is going to warm up to urban art in any considerable way.
The contemporary audience has warmed to it already though surely. The price of simple intelligence testing surely proves this. Isn't Jose Mugrabi rumoured to be collecting banksys now. If he has even half the effect he did on the warhol market then it will be significant.
Fact is that in the current climate the auction houses, not the galleries, are kings of the contemporary art market. A piece can be for sale in a gallery for ยฃ2 million for months. But if it sells at auction for that sum then it makes the news. And the auction houses are keen on urban art because it is fresh, there are plenty of consignors, it tends to be on traditional media (such as canvasses) which are easier to sell, and it gets them headlines.
I'm not saying that there won't be a correction, of course there will be. Also I think ultimately there may only be 2 or 3 winners in the long term. But I do think the movement is here to stay.
At best I think the art market will grow by adding urban art fans but I personally don't think that the contemporary audience is going to warm up to urban art in any considerable way. The contemporary audience has warmed to it already though surely. The price of simple intelligence testing surely proves this. Isn't Jose Mugrabi rumoured to be collecting banksys now. If he has even half the effect he did on the warhol market then it will be significant. Fact is that in the current climate the auction houses, not the galleries, are kings of the contemporary art market. A piece can be for sale in a gallery for ยฃ2 million for months. But if it sells at auction for that sum then it makes the news. And the auction houses are keen on urban art because it is fresh, there are plenty of consignors, it tends to be on traditional media (such as canvasses) which are easier to sell, and it gets them headlines. I'm not saying that there won't be a correction, of course there will be. Also I think ultimately there may only be 2 or 3 winners in the long term. But I do think the movement is here to stay.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by snausages on Feb 11, 2009 18:13:59 GMT 1, ten years is a looooooooooooooooong time! I also think when certain Parla works come to auction they may also start seeing some significant results.. 10 years isn't that long. I think a better question is how many of these guys will still be accepted into auction in 10 years.
You guys are dreaming. I work at a gallery that's brokering a deal for one of the biggest young artists out there right now โ he's had a major solo show at a museum in the US and on and on, his huge canvases retail at 100k! They're currently trying to place an amazing massive room sized sculpture for 300k to a major collector who will be opening her own museum space. And you're telling me Elms wants 200 for a parla canvas? And u think they'll be worth 500 in 10 yrs!?! Not happening. If anyone has half a million bucks to spend, they're not bidding on a parla, I don't care what you think.
ten years is a looooooooooooooooong time! I also think when certain Parla works come to auction they may also start seeing some significant results.. 10 years isn't that long. I think a better question is how many of these guys will still be accepted into auction in 10 years. You guys are dreaming. I work at a gallery that's brokering a deal for one of the biggest young artists out there right now โ he's had a major solo show at a museum in the US and on and on, his huge canvases retail at 100k! They're currently trying to place an amazing massive room sized sculpture for 300k to a major collector who will be opening her own museum space. And you're telling me Elms wants 200 for a parla canvas? And u think they'll be worth 500 in 10 yrs!?! Not happening. If anyone has half a million bucks to spend, they're not bidding on a parla, I don't care what you think.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by snausages on Feb 11, 2009 18:18:31 GMT 1, At best I think the art market will grow by adding urban art fans but I personally don't think that the contemporary audience is going to warm up to urban art in any considerable way. But I do think the movement is here to stay. I don't think I'm really arguing with you pez. I just think this will be established but still a bit of a fringe element within the art world. We'll see. And I don't argue that Banksy has been accepted. But to compare it to the 80s, just because Basquiat's sell for millions doesn't mean anything to the other 80s street artists who sell for squat.
At best I think the art market will grow by adding urban art fans but I personally don't think that the contemporary audience is going to warm up to urban art in any considerable way. But I do think the movement is here to stay. I don't think I'm really arguing with you pez. I just think this will be established but still a bit of a fringe element within the art world. We'll see. And I don't argue that Banksy has been accepted. But to compare it to the 80s, just because Basquiat's sell for millions doesn't mean anything to the other 80s street artists who sell for squat.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by pezlow on Feb 11, 2009 18:33:42 GMT 1, I don't think we arguing either - just speculating on something which neither of us can predict. This movement is bigger than the 80's movement IMHO but only time will tell.
I don't think we arguing either - just speculating on something which neither of us can predict. This movement is bigger than the 80's movement IMHO but only time will tell.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by onemandown72 on Feb 11, 2009 18:43:30 GMT 1, I think people underestimate the relevance of this as an art movement. We'll see a number of these artists increase in profile over the next 30 years as they represent a generation that, in theory, will have increased spending power as it gets older. I've said this before, but Hirst and his contemporaries are the last artists of the baby boomer generation. 20 years from now there is a good chance that many artists from Hirst's generation will look dated and unfashionable as they represent a trend that has developed over the last 30 to 40 years and that is abruptly coming to an end at this very moment. Don't underestimate the sginificance of this generational change. The real question is whether any of these artists will be remembered once we're all dead and our grand children look back on generation X and Y as old-fashioned and irrelevent.
I absolutely agree with this, and this is why I feel that key artists from the genre will be commanding strong / stonger prices at auction than currently in 10 years. As with many other artistic realms the media and collectors love to categorize / package movements that make them comfortable, and easy to sell (ie urban art bonhams) and for the 00's the major street youth movement wasn't from fashion or music, both of which have been pretty moribund from a creative point of view, but has been street art. Afroken is right, the collectors of this art will then be in a position to want to continue to buy at ever inflated prices. This has been the biggest "new" and current art movement. Whereras graffitti was feted in the 1980's it never took hold as it was too insular. The major graf / street artist that supeceded this was Keith Haring. And it is the more broad appeal of Banksy that is exactly why he is established, and will continue to grow. This is also why I see Neate as overtaking Banksy, whilst he has used the streets to show his work, it is secondary to his work. In my opinion nothing he has done on the street has come close to his gallery work (whereas with Banksy I feel this is totally the opposite). I also feel that Parla has developed on through working on the street, but again his gallery work is so much stronger. Another example is Faile - look at the detail and execution of the pieces at the Glimmering shadows show - you can't do this in a street piece So maybe the movement will be more about artists that have developed from the street into the more accepted contemporary world, but will nonetheless be categorized as "Street"artists, and will be part of the most important art movement of the 00's?
I think people underestimate the relevance of this as an art movement. We'll see a number of these artists increase in profile over the next 30 years as they represent a generation that, in theory, will have increased spending power as it gets older. I've said this before, but Hirst and his contemporaries are the last artists of the baby boomer generation. 20 years from now there is a good chance that many artists from Hirst's generation will look dated and unfashionable as they represent a trend that has developed over the last 30 to 40 years and that is abruptly coming to an end at this very moment. Don't underestimate the sginificance of this generational change. The real question is whether any of these artists will be remembered once we're all dead and our grand children look back on generation X and Y as old-fashioned and irrelevent. I absolutely agree with this, and this is why I feel that key artists from the genre will be commanding strong / stonger prices at auction than currently in 10 years. As with many other artistic realms the media and collectors love to categorize / package movements that make them comfortable, and easy to sell (ie urban art bonhams) and for the 00's the major street youth movement wasn't from fashion or music, both of which have been pretty moribund from a creative point of view, but has been street art. Afroken is right, the collectors of this art will then be in a position to want to continue to buy at ever inflated prices. This has been the biggest "new" and current art movement. Whereras graffitti was feted in the 1980's it never took hold as it was too insular. The major graf / street artist that supeceded this was Keith Haring. And it is the more broad appeal of Banksy that is exactly why he is established, and will continue to grow. This is also why I see Neate as overtaking Banksy, whilst he has used the streets to show his work, it is secondary to his work. In my opinion nothing he has done on the street has come close to his gallery work (whereas with Banksy I feel this is totally the opposite). I also feel that Parla has developed on through working on the street, but again his gallery work is so much stronger. Another example is Faile - look at the detail and execution of the pieces at the Glimmering shadows show - you can't do this in a street piece So maybe the movement will be more about artists that have developed from the street into the more accepted contemporary world, but will nonetheless be categorized as "Street"artists, and will be part of the most important art movement of the 00's?
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by Harveyn on Feb 11, 2009 18:47:52 GMT 1, Really enjoyed reading this thread. Good work one and all.
Can I throw Micallef into the equation. Has at least some credibility to his CV?
Really enjoyed reading this thread. Good work one and all.
Can I throw Micallef into the equation. Has at least some credibility to his CV?
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by edcase on Feb 11, 2009 18:54:40 GMT 1, Micallef has huge talent but has probably suffered more than (m)any other artists from the Laz pricing bubble. Too much, too soon. Which is a terrible shame.
Micallef has huge talent but has probably suffered more than (m)any other artists from the Laz pricing bubble. Too much, too soon. Which is a terrible shame.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by Simococo on Feb 11, 2009 19:01:36 GMT 1, Neate is a very good portrait painter but thats not going to be enough to make him eclipse the pioneering work of Banksy, Shep, KAWS and Os Gemeos
Neate is a very good portrait painter but thats not going to be enough to make him eclipse the pioneering work of Banksy, Shep, KAWS and Os Gemeos
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by etched on Feb 11, 2009 19:52:10 GMT 1, ten years is a looooooooooooooooong time! I also think when certain Parla works come to auction they may also start seeing some significant results.. 10 years isn't that long. I think a better question is how many of these guys will still be accepted into auction in 10 years. You guys are dreaming. I work at a gallery that's brokering a deal for one of the biggest young artists out there right now โ he's had a major solo show at a museum in the US and on and on, his huge canvases retail at 100k! They're currently trying to place an amazing massive room sized sculpture for 300k to a major collector who will be opening her own museum space. And you're telling me Elms wants 200 for a parla canvas? And u think they'll be worth 500 in 10 yrs!?! Not happening. If anyone has half a million bucks to spend, they're not bidding on a parla, I don't care what you think.
" one of the biggest young artists out there right now" - whom ?
ten years is a looooooooooooooooong time! I also think when certain Parla works come to auction they may also start seeing some significant results.. 10 years isn't that long. I think a better question is how many of these guys will still be accepted into auction in 10 years. You guys are dreaming. I work at a gallery that's brokering a deal for one of the biggest young artists out there right now โ he's had a major solo show at a museum in the US and on and on, his huge canvases retail at 100k! They're currently trying to place an amazing massive room sized sculpture for 300k to a major collector who will be opening her own museum space. And you're telling me Elms wants 200 for a parla canvas? And u think they'll be worth 500 in 10 yrs!?! Not happening. If anyone has half a million bucks to spend, they're not bidding on a parla, I don't care what you think. " one of the biggest young artists out there right now" - whom ?
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by slowmo on Feb 11, 2009 21:01:49 GMT 1, Neate is a very good portrait painter but thats not going to be enough to make him eclipse the pioneering work of Banksy, Shep, KAWS and Os Gemeos
Actually, he's a hell of a lot more than that. I have really enjoyed this thread, I also have given a lot of thought lately without reading this thread about the depth and longevity of this scene. Banksy in art history, it'll be as a cheeky chappy, little else. However that will be enough for many and his prices will stay consistent, its a safe banker.
I think that James was bang on the money with his list nmber 7. Adam Neate, if the rest of the world care to take notice, he will be huge. He is also far more than just a portrait artist.
I'll go a step further. I think that this will be one of the seminal works of the 21st Century. An increasing problem in the world is fertility, but its still a quiet subject, increasingly less so, but still quiet. Ask your parents and they all just had children, but now, how many friends and colleagues do you know undertaking IVF and other such things, desperate for children?
In this piece Adam Neate has captured this angst, taken it and made something so strong and powerful that it lauds over most work I have ever seen full stop. It transports you to another place, makes you feel like you are there. It is also one small reason why I believe that one day Adam Neate will be a very major player in the art world.
Neate is a very good portrait painter but thats not going to be enough to make him eclipse the pioneering work of Banksy, Shep, KAWS and Os Gemeos Actually, he's a hell of a lot more than that. I have really enjoyed this thread, I also have given a lot of thought lately without reading this thread about the depth and longevity of this scene. Banksy in art history, it'll be as a cheeky chappy, little else. However that will be enough for many and his prices will stay consistent, its a safe banker. I think that James was bang on the money with his list nmber 7. Adam Neate, if the rest of the world care to take notice, he will be huge. He is also far more than just a portrait artist. I'll go a step further. I think that this will be one of the seminal works of the 21st Century. An increasing problem in the world is fertility, but its still a quiet subject, increasingly less so, but still quiet. Ask your parents and they all just had children, but now, how many friends and colleagues do you know undertaking IVF and other such things, desperate for children? In this piece Adam Neate has captured this angst, taken it and made something so strong and powerful that it lauds over most work I have ever seen full stop. It transports you to another place, makes you feel like you are there. It is also one small reason why I believe that one day Adam Neate will be a very major player in the art world.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by guest2 on Feb 11, 2009 21:12:28 GMT 1, Neate is a very good portrait painter but thats not going to be enough to make him eclipse the pioneering work of Banksy, Shep, KAWS and Os Gemeos .... Adam Neate, if the rest of the world care to take notice, he will be huge. He is also far more than just a portrait artist. I'll go a step further. I think that this will be one of the seminal works of the 21st Century. An increasing problem in the world is fertility, but its still a quiet subject, increasingly less so, but still quiet. Ask your parents and they all just had children, but now, how many friends and colleagues do you know undertaking IVF and other such things, desperate for children? In this piece Adam Neate has captured this angst, taken it and made something so strong and powerful that it lauds over most work I have ever seen full stop. It transports you to another place, makes you feel like you are there. It is also one small reason why I believe that one day Adam Neate will be a very major player in the art world.
excellent post although I translate it different. i always thought that the results were positive and instead of her jumping for joy she just stayed on the Toilet and took a dump (she looks like shes taking a dump) and the man is thinking Dude.... not a child with this mad bitch!
Neate is a very good portrait painter but thats not going to be enough to make him eclipse the pioneering work of Banksy, Shep, KAWS and Os Gemeos .... Adam Neate, if the rest of the world care to take notice, he will be huge. He is also far more than just a portrait artist. I'll go a step further. I think that this will be one of the seminal works of the 21st Century. An increasing problem in the world is fertility, but its still a quiet subject, increasingly less so, but still quiet. Ask your parents and they all just had children, but now, how many friends and colleagues do you know undertaking IVF and other such things, desperate for children? In this piece Adam Neate has captured this angst, taken it and made something so strong and powerful that it lauds over most work I have ever seen full stop. It transports you to another place, makes you feel like you are there. It is also one small reason why I believe that one day Adam Neate will be a very major player in the art world. excellent post although I translate it different. i always thought that the results were positive and instead of her jumping for joy she just stayed on the Toilet and took a dump (she looks like shes taking a dump) and the man is thinking Dude.... not a child with this mad bitch!
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by linkd95 on Feb 11, 2009 21:14:24 GMT 1, PARLA FOR SURE, THEN BANKSY, THEN KAWS, Parla had a few huge pieces at adaption/translation the biggest one was about 8ft by 6ft. I didnt see the price it was kinda greenish but i reckon i was definately over ยฃ150,000.
Parla=big time collectors.
PARLA FOR SURE, THEN BANKSY, THEN KAWS, Parla had a few huge pieces at adaption/translation the biggest one was about 8ft by 6ft. I didnt see the price it was kinda greenish but i reckon i was definately over ยฃ150,000.
Parla=big time collectors.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by Simococo on Feb 11, 2009 21:16:53 GMT 1, Neate has got incredible talent I agree and I have been chasing a gallery piece for 12 months but he won't be remembered in the same sense as Banksy, Shep and KAWS in terms of his importance to street/urban I just don't see his work as groundbreaking Picasso, Bacon and Freud set that standard I do love the beauty though
Neate has got incredible talent I agree and I have been chasing a gallery piece for 12 months but he won't be remembered in the same sense as Banksy, Shep and KAWS in terms of his importance to street/urban I just don't see his work as groundbreaking Picasso, Bacon and Freud set that standard I do love the beauty though
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by etched on Feb 11, 2009 21:17:23 GMT 1, .... Adam Neate, if the rest of the world care to take notice, he will be huge. He is also far more than just a portrait artist. I'll go a step further. I think that this will be one of the seminal works of the 21st Century. An increasing problem in the world is fertility, but its still a quiet subject, increasingly less so, but still quiet. Ask your parents and they all just had children, but now, how many friends and colleagues do you know undertaking IVF and other such things, desperate for children? In this piece Adam Neate has captured this angst, taken it and made something so strong and powerful that it lauds over most work I have ever seen full stop. It transports you to another place, makes you feel like you are there. It is also one small reason why I believe that one day Adam Neate will be a very major player in the art world. excellent post although I translate it different. i always thought that the results were positive and instead of her jumping for joy she just stayed on the Toilet and took a dump (she looks like shes taking a dump) and the man is thinking Dude.... not a child with this mad b**ch! toilet seat looks down ;D
.... Adam Neate, if the rest of the world care to take notice, he will be huge. He is also far more than just a portrait artist. I'll go a step further. I think that this will be one of the seminal works of the 21st Century. An increasing problem in the world is fertility, but its still a quiet subject, increasingly less so, but still quiet. Ask your parents and they all just had children, but now, how many friends and colleagues do you know undertaking IVF and other such things, desperate for children? In this piece Adam Neate has captured this angst, taken it and made something so strong and powerful that it lauds over most work I have ever seen full stop. It transports you to another place, makes you feel like you are there. It is also one small reason why I believe that one day Adam Neate will be a very major player in the art world. excellent post although I translate it different. i always thought that the results were positive and instead of her jumping for joy she just stayed on the Toilet and took a dump (she looks like shes taking a dump) and the man is thinking Dude.... not a child with this mad b**ch! toilet seat looks down ;D
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by guest2 on Feb 11, 2009 21:20:01 GMT 1, excellent post although I translate it different. i always thought that the results were positive and instead of her jumping for joy she just stayed on the Toilet and took a dump (she looks like shes taking a dump) and the man is thinking Dude.... not a child with this mad b**ch! toilet seat looks down ;D
the dog sleeps in the toilet and they can't afford a plant for the pot - The Toilet seat broke and hit the skip way back!
excellent post although I translate it different. i always thought that the results were positive and instead of her jumping for joy she just stayed on the Toilet and took a dump (she looks like shes taking a dump) and the man is thinking Dude.... not a child with this mad b**ch! toilet seat looks down ;D the dog sleeps in the toilet and they can't afford a plant for the pot - The Toilet seat broke and hit the skip way back!
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by onemandown72 on Feb 11, 2009 21:23:46 GMT 1, toilet seat looks down ;D the dog sleeps in the toilet and they can't afford a plant for the pot - The Toilet seat broke and hit the skip way back!
sounds like a script from a Mike Leigh film
toilet seat looks down ;D the dog sleeps in the toilet and they can't afford a plant for the pot - The Toilet seat broke and hit the skip way back! sounds like a script from a Mike Leigh film
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by Guest on Feb 11, 2009 21:26:52 GMT 1, .... Adam Neate, if the rest of the world care to take notice, he will be huge. He is also far more than just a portrait artist. I'll go a step further. I think that this will be one of the seminal works of the 21st Century. An increasing problem in the world is fertility, but its still a quiet subject, increasingly less so, but still quiet. Ask your parents and they all just had children, but now, how many friends and colleagues do you know undertaking IVF and other such things, desperate for children? In this piece Adam Neate has captured this angst, taken it and made something so strong and powerful that it lauds over most work I have ever seen full stop. It transports you to another place, makes you feel like you are there. It is also one small reason why I believe that one day Adam Neate will be a very major player in the art world. excellent post although I translate it different. i always thought that the results were positive and instead of her jumping for joy she just stayed on the Toilet and took a dump (she looks like shes taking a dump) and the man is thinking Dude.... not a child with this mad b**ch!
Thanks for that Frankie, I just choked on my coffee! ;D
.... Adam Neate, if the rest of the world care to take notice, he will be huge. He is also far more than just a portrait artist. I'll go a step further. I think that this will be one of the seminal works of the 21st Century. An increasing problem in the world is fertility, but its still a quiet subject, increasingly less so, but still quiet. Ask your parents and they all just had children, but now, how many friends and colleagues do you know undertaking IVF and other such things, desperate for children? In this piece Adam Neate has captured this angst, taken it and made something so strong and powerful that it lauds over most work I have ever seen full stop. It transports you to another place, makes you feel like you are there. It is also one small reason why I believe that one day Adam Neate will be a very major player in the art world. excellent post although I translate it different. i always thought that the results were positive and instead of her jumping for joy she just stayed on the Toilet and took a dump (she looks like shes taking a dump) and the man is thinking Dude.... not a child with this mad b**ch! Thanks for that Frankie, I just choked on my coffee! ;D
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by etched on Feb 11, 2009 21:29:22 GMT 1, toilet seat looks down ;D the dog sleeps in the toilet and they can't afford a plant for the pot - The Toilet seat broke and hit the skip way back! -way back! and then asbestos came along and recovered the piece, of seat. now it sits on a wall in a lovely home ;D
toilet seat looks down ;D the dog sleeps in the toilet and they can't afford a plant for the pot - The Toilet seat broke and hit the skip way back! -way back! and then asbestos came along and recovered the piece, of seat. now it sits on a wall in a lovely home ;D
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by Guest on Feb 11, 2009 21:31:57 GMT 1, maybe she was hoping for kittens
maybe she was hoping for kittens
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by guest2 on Feb 11, 2009 21:33:02 GMT 1, excellent post although I translate it different. i always thought that the results were positive and instead of her jumping for joy she just stayed on the Toilet and took a dump (she looks like shes taking a dump) and the man is thinking Dude.... not a child with this mad b**ch! Thanks for that Frankie, I just chocked on my coffee! ;D
Dude, look at her belly, she's 6 months gone for sure! She told him she's just putting on weight because of the lovely meals he keeps cooking her- he's got paranoid and insisted on a test and - hey ho - !!! -shes whistling and taking a pooh.
His bed is made and its just dawned on him.
Hows he gonna keep this one from the wife?
excellent post although I translate it different. i always thought that the results were positive and instead of her jumping for joy she just stayed on the Toilet and took a dump (she looks like shes taking a dump) and the man is thinking Dude.... not a child with this mad b**ch! Thanks for that Frankie, I just chocked on my coffee! ;D Dude, look at her belly, she's 6 months gone for sure! She told him she's just putting on weight because of the lovely meals he keeps cooking her- he's got paranoid and insisted on a test and - hey ho - !!! -shes whistling and taking a pooh. His bed is made and its just dawned on him. Hows he gonna keep this one from the wife?
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by slowmo on Feb 11, 2009 21:38:31 GMT 1, Thanks for that Frankie, I just chocked on my coffee! ;D Dude, look at her belly, she's 6 months gone for sure! She told him she's just putting on weight because of the lovely meals he keeps cooking her- he's got paranoid and insisted on a test and - hey ho - !!! -shes whistling and taking a pooh. His bed is made and its just dawned on him. Hows he gonna keep this one from the wife?
;D
I think its him who is firing the blanks, rest falls into place then
Thanks for that Frankie, I just chocked on my coffee! ;D Dude, look at her belly, she's 6 months gone for sure! She told him she's just putting on weight because of the lovely meals he keeps cooking her- he's got paranoid and insisted on a test and - hey ho - !!! -shes whistling and taking a pooh. His bed is made and its just dawned on him. Hows he gonna keep this one from the wife? ;D I think its him who is firing the blanks, rest falls into place then
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by Dellboyy on Feb 11, 2009 22:04:08 GMT 1, I'm far from being an art expert of course, but for me it was between neate and parla. Far from being my personal favourites, but for me it's about who has the range to break from the strict urban/street art label across to others where there is a hell of a lot more money around... those two i can see being appreciated by a number of different art crowds which would probably mean more cash.
Btw, that neate is bloody amazing!
I'm far from being an art expert of course, but for me it was between neate and parla. Far from being my personal favourites, but for me it's about who has the range to break from the strict urban/street art label across to others where there is a hell of a lot more money around... those two i can see being appreciated by a number of different art crowds which would probably mean more cash.
Btw, that neate is bloody amazing!
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by lee3 on Feb 11, 2009 22:39:41 GMT 1, Was lurking this thread until that Neate was posted above. Never seen it before and I thank you kindly for posting it. The test appears blue as opposed to the positive pink. My initial impression is one of despair on both parties and for me the viewer i think it is a much stronger compostion that way. I love the coloring and the elements in that painting and it stops me in my tracks just looking at it over a monitor. Certainly the best work of art I've seen today. What is the size of that painting? If it's one of the larger works that he's done I can only imagine what that feels like in person. I must admit that I got a good chuckle Frankie's interpreation(s) as there is no right or wrong just different degrees of funny.
Was lurking this thread until that Neate was posted above. Never seen it before and I thank you kindly for posting it. The test appears blue as opposed to the positive pink. My initial impression is one of despair on both parties and for me the viewer i think it is a much stronger compostion that way. I love the coloring and the elements in that painting and it stops me in my tracks just looking at it over a monitor. Certainly the best work of art I've seen today. What is the size of that painting? If it's one of the larger works that he's done I can only imagine what that feels like in person. I must admit that I got a good chuckle Frankie's interpreation(s) as there is no right or wrong just different degrees of funny.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by slowmo on Feb 11, 2009 22:44:03 GMT 1, It was pretty big Lee, just amazing in real life.
It was pretty big Lee, just amazing in real life.
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Highest Sold in 10 Years Time..., by Deleted on Feb 11, 2009 22:44:10 GMT 1, Lee, the piece is called 'The Test' and was in the Adam and Ron show. it was large: 121 x 152 cm.. I remember it as a bit lighter than displayed on this forum and in the catalogue/book.. but that could also be due to the excellent light in the gallery.
It was a great piece, it tells a story what you can interpret on your own way.. I totally go with Lee's theory but I dont think anyone can say what is the right way to do..
Lee, the piece is called 'The Test' and was in the Adam and Ron show. it was large: 121 x 152 cm.. I remember it as a bit lighter than displayed on this forum and in the catalogue/book.. but that could also be due to the excellent light in the gallery.
It was a great piece, it tells a story what you can interpret on your own way.. I totally go with Lee's theory but I dont think anyone can say what is the right way to do..
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