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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Daniel Silk on Sept 4, 2008 11:55:22 GMT 1, www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1051070/Landmark-experiment-unlock-secrets-Big-Bang-cause-end-world-say-scientists-court-bid-halt-it.html
Landmark experiment to unlock secrets of Big Bang could cause end of the world, say scientists in court bid to halt it It has cost ยฃ4.4billion and is designed to unlock the secrets of the Big Bang. But rather than providing vital information about the beginning of life, the world's biggest experiment could cause the end of the world, say scientists. They fear that the Large Hadron Collider - due to be switched on in nine days' time - will create a black hole that could swallow the planet.
By smashing sub-atomic particles together at close to the speed of light, the LHC aims to recreate the conditions that existed a fraction of a second after the birth of the universe or Big Bang, shedding light on the building blocks of life. But critics claim that the 'time machine', which has been built 300ft beneath the French-Swiss border near Geneva, could instead spawn a shower of mini-black holes. Within four years, one of these 'celestial vacuums' could have swollen to such a size that it is capable of sucking the Earth inside-out, said Otto Rossler, one of a group of scientists mounting a last-minute court challenge to the project. They claim the experiment violates the right to life under the European Convention of Human Rights. However, the case at the European Court of Human Rights is not expected to delay the switch on, scheduled for Wednesday of next week. Professor Rossler, a German chemist, said the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, or CERN, has admitted its project will create black holes but doesn't consider them to be a risk.
He warned: 'My own calculations have shown it is quite plausible that these little black holes survive and will grow exponentially and eat the planet from the inside. I have been calling for CERN to hold a safety conference to prove my conclusions wrong but they have not been willing.' Those involved in the project have dismissed the claims as 'absurd' and insist that extensive safety assessments have found the experiment, which is funded by 20 countries, including the UK, to be safe. A report written earlier this year stated: 'Over the past billions of years, nature has already generated on Earth as many collisions as about a million LHC experiments - and the planet still exists.' The lifespan of any mini-black holes would be 'very short', it added.
CERN spokesman James Gillies said the arguments before the European Court of Human Rights had been answered in 'extensive safety assessments'. He told the Sunday Telegraph: 'The Large Hadron Collider will not be producing anything that does not happen routinely in nature due to cosmic rays. If they were dangerous we would know about it already.' Scientists have used large particle colliders to smash atoms and pieces of atoms together for 30 years, but this machine has attracted so much attention because it is the most powerful ever built. In the LHC beams of protons will be propelled through an 18-mile-long circular tunnel. More than 5,000 magnets lining the tunnel will accelerate the hundreds of billions of tiny particles to almost the speed of light, allowing them to complete one circuit in one-11,000th of a second. There will be two beams going in opposite directions, each packing as much energy as a car travelling at 100mph. When they reach almost the speed of light, they will be smashed head on into each other, breaking them into their constituent parts, including, perhaps, the building blocks of the universe.
www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1051070/Landmark-experiment-unlock-secrets-Big-Bang-cause-end-world-say-scientists-court-bid-halt-it.htmlLandmark experiment to unlock secrets of Big Bang could cause end of the world, say scientists in court bid to halt it It has cost ยฃ4.4billion and is designed to unlock the secrets of the Big Bang. But rather than providing vital information about the beginning of life, the world's biggest experiment could cause the end of the world, say scientists. They fear that the Large Hadron Collider - due to be switched on in nine days' time - will create a black hole that could swallow the planet. By smashing sub-atomic particles together at close to the speed of light, the LHC aims to recreate the conditions that existed a fraction of a second after the birth of the universe or Big Bang, shedding light on the building blocks of life. But critics claim that the 'time machine', which has been built 300ft beneath the French-Swiss border near Geneva, could instead spawn a shower of mini-black holes. Within four years, one of these 'celestial vacuums' could have swollen to such a size that it is capable of sucking the Earth inside-out, said Otto Rossler, one of a group of scientists mounting a last-minute court challenge to the project. They claim the experiment violates the right to life under the European Convention of Human Rights. However, the case at the European Court of Human Rights is not expected to delay the switch on, scheduled for Wednesday of next week. Professor Rossler, a German chemist, said the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, or CERN, has admitted its project will create black holes but doesn't consider them to be a risk. He warned: 'My own calculations have shown it is quite plausible that these little black holes survive and will grow exponentially and eat the planet from the inside. I have been calling for CERN to hold a safety conference to prove my conclusions wrong but they have not been willing.' Those involved in the project have dismissed the claims as 'absurd' and insist that extensive safety assessments have found the experiment, which is funded by 20 countries, including the UK, to be safe. A report written earlier this year stated: 'Over the past billions of years, nature has already generated on Earth as many collisions as about a million LHC experiments - and the planet still exists.' The lifespan of any mini-black holes would be 'very short', it added. CERN spokesman James Gillies said the arguments before the European Court of Human Rights had been answered in 'extensive safety assessments'. He told the Sunday Telegraph: 'The Large Hadron Collider will not be producing anything that does not happen routinely in nature due to cosmic rays. If they were dangerous we would know about it already.' Scientists have used large particle colliders to smash atoms and pieces of atoms together for 30 years, but this machine has attracted so much attention because it is the most powerful ever built. In the LHC beams of protons will be propelled through an 18-mile-long circular tunnel. More than 5,000 magnets lining the tunnel will accelerate the hundreds of billions of tiny particles to almost the speed of light, allowing them to complete one circuit in one-11,000th of a second. There will be two beams going in opposite directions, each packing as much energy as a car travelling at 100mph. When they reach almost the speed of light, they will be smashed head on into each other, breaking them into their constituent parts, including, perhaps, the building blocks of the universe.
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by alsbabar on Sept 4, 2008 11:56:54 GMT 1, right quick panic sell your signed and original banksys to me!!!
right quick panic sell your signed and original banksys to me!!!
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by leumasdarnley on Sept 4, 2008 11:59:07 GMT 1, Wonderful now instead of worrying about the economy and hurricanes we have black holes sucking people into oblivion...
Wonderful now instead of worrying about the economy and hurricanes we have black holes sucking people into oblivion...
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by grantb on Sept 4, 2008 12:00:08 GMT 1, thats fukin excellent! now i have nothing to worry about.
thats fukin excellent! now i have nothing to worry about.
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 12:01:18 GMT 1, I never did like Wednesdays much, always thought there was something miserable about them.
I never did like Wednesdays much, always thought there was something miserable about them.
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Daniel Silk on Sept 4, 2008 12:01:24 GMT 1, thats fukin excellent! now i have nothing to worry about.
No problem ;D Just thought I should let you know ;D
thats fukin excellent! now i have nothing to worry about. No problem ;D Just thought I should let you know ;D
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by bradpitt on Sept 4, 2008 12:02:41 GMT 1, Sh1t, why did I spend so much time on this forum when I could of been out sleeping with women
Sh1t, why did I spend so much time on this forum when I could of been out sleeping with women
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by grantb on Sept 4, 2008 12:02:46 GMT 1, i actually knew about this a few weeks back but didnt think it was going to actually happen. hm
i actually knew about this a few weeks back but didnt think it was going to actually happen. hm
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Daniel Silk on Sept 4, 2008 12:10:32 GMT 1, They are all taking it very serious
They are all taking it very serious
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Martin Whatson on Sept 4, 2008 12:11:00 GMT 1, I just hope I get my new Herakut before the end of the world
I just hope I get my new Herakut before the end of the world
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Bram on Sept 4, 2008 12:11:53 GMT 1, oh no we are going to be eaten by a black noel
oh no we are going to be eaten by a black noel
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by alsbabar on Sept 4, 2008 12:13:44 GMT 1, i know everything there is to know now about particles, energy and ions, if you have any question please feel free to PM me
i know everything there is to know now about particles, energy and ions, if you have any question please feel free to PM me
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by graeme501 on Sept 4, 2008 12:15:56 GMT 1, according to the youtube advert, December 21st 2012 might not be that great a day either
according to the youtube advert, December 21st 2012 might not be that great a day either
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by retardthebear on Sept 4, 2008 12:16:18 GMT 1, Interesting how they couldnt get the protons to reach the full speed of light. About 0.000019th of a second out according to the Metro (I know, I know... I like to read the grown up boys papers!). Just sounds lazy and half arsed to me.............
Interesting how they couldnt get the protons to reach the full speed of light. About 0.000019th of a second out according to the Metro (I know, I know... I like to read the grown up boys papers!). Just sounds lazy and half arsed to me.............
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Daniel Silk on Sept 4, 2008 12:17:13 GMT 1, Part 1
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Part 1
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Bram on Sept 4, 2008 12:18:10 GMT 1, according to the youtube advert, December 21st 2012 might not be that great a day either
East 17 reunion ?
according to the youtube advert, December 21st 2012 might not be that great a day either East 17 reunion ?
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by onemandown72 on Sept 4, 2008 12:18:55 GMT 1, WOOOO-HOOOOOO. Love it, if the world's going to end I'm going on the lash, party time, dancing girls etc. I'm going out wiht a bang. And if the world doesn't end I'll blame the Daily Mail when I appear in court for anything I may do on my end of it all shindig.
WOOOO-HOOOOOO. Love it, if the world's going to end I'm going on the lash, party time, dancing girls etc. I'm going out wiht a bang. And if the world doesn't end I'll blame the Daily Mail when I appear in court for anything I may do on my end of it all shindig.
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by graeme501 on Sept 4, 2008 12:19:15 GMT 1, i didnt realise the adverts changed ....
it had a picture of the earth, with a huge rock shooting towards it :s
i didnt realise the adverts changed ....
it had a picture of the earth, with a huge rock shooting towards it :s
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by bradpitt on Sept 4, 2008 12:22:54 GMT 1, Why does everyone believe the crazy man in a wheelchair? just because his voice is computer generated it doesn't make him any wiser than the rest of us. Black holes are an explanation for the unexplained.
Why does everyone believe the crazy man in a wheelchair? just because his voice is computer generated it doesn't make him any wiser than the rest of us. Black holes are an explanation for the unexplained.
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by redfred on Sept 4, 2008 12:40:05 GMT 1, Do you think Banksy will do a print on this? Presuming it does happen of course!!
Do you think Banksy will do a print on this? Presuming it does happen of course!!
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by curiousgeorge on Sept 4, 2008 12:45:57 GMT 1, Would you Adam 'n Eve it!
Would you Adam 'n Eve it!
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Daniel Silk on Sept 4, 2008 12:52:41 GMT 1, They even have a YouTube channel
www.youtube.com/user/CERNTV
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Richard on Sept 4, 2008 13:10:27 GMT 1, Interesting how they couldnt get the protons to reach the full speed of light. About 0.000019th of a second out according to the Metro (I know, I know... I like to read the grown up boys papers!). Just sounds lazy and half arsed to me.............
If I am not mistaken...it is impossible to make a particle travel at the speed of light. However, it is not theoretically impossible (although it has not been done) to make a particle travel faster than the speed of light.
Get your head round that one ;D
Interesting how they couldnt get the protons to reach the full speed of light. About 0.000019th of a second out according to the Metro (I know, I know... I like to read the grown up boys papers!). Just sounds lazy and half arsed to me............. If I am not mistaken...it is impossible to make a particle travel at the speed of light. However, it is not theoretically impossible (although it has not been done) to make a particle travel faster than the speed of light. Get your head round that one ;D
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by spirit on Sept 4, 2008 13:26:14 GMT 1, Yes we might generate black holes, but they're perfectly safe, honestly. Nothing to worry about. Move along please.
Yes we might generate black holes, but they're perfectly safe, honestly. Nothing to worry about. Move along please.
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Daniel Silk on Sept 4, 2008 13:30:52 GMT 1, Yes we might generate black holes, but they're perfectly safe, honestly. Nothing to worry about. Move along please.
Forget about recycle bins ;D in a few years we will have a black hole built into ya kitchen worktop ;D
Yes we might generate black holes, but they're perfectly safe, honestly. Nothing to worry about. Move along please. Forget about recycle bins ;D in a few years we will have a black hole built into ya kitchen worktop ;D
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by retardthebear on Sept 4, 2008 15:13:28 GMT 1, Interesting how they couldnt get the protons to reach the full speed of light. About 0.000019th of a second out according to the Metro (I know, I know... I like to read the grown up boys papers!). Just sounds lazy and half arsed to me............. If I am not mistaken...it is impossible to make a particle travel at the speed of light. However, it is not theoretically impossible (although it has not been done) to make a particle travel faster than the speed of light. Get your head round that one ;D
so speed of light is impossible. But speed of light+1mph is not These scientists get paid to much just to tinker about all day, the little scamps Break out the ouiji boards for all lifes answers
Interesting how they couldnt get the protons to reach the full speed of light. About 0.000019th of a second out according to the Metro (I know, I know... I like to read the grown up boys papers!). Just sounds lazy and half arsed to me............. If I am not mistaken...it is impossible to make a particle travel at the speed of light. However, it is not theoretically impossible (although it has not been done) to make a particle travel faster than the speed of light. Get your head round that one ;D so speed of light is impossible. But speed of light+1mph is not These scientists get paid to much just to tinker about all day, the little scamps Break out the ouiji boards for all lifes answers
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by leumasdarnley on Sept 4, 2008 16:06:41 GMT 1, In the pre-test they fired it up and this popped out I am scared as hell to see what happens at full speed.
In the pre-test they fired it up and this popped out I am scared as hell to see what happens at full speed.
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The End of The World - NEXT WEDNESDAY , by Tiki on Sept 4, 2008 16:15:09 GMT 1, Interesting how they couldnt get the protons to reach the full speed of light. About 0.000019th of a second out according to the Metro (I know, I know... I like to read the grown up boys papers!). Just sounds lazy and half arsed to me............. If I am not mistaken...it is impossible to make a particle travel at the speed of light. However, it is not theoretically impossible (although it has not been done) to make a particle travel faster than the speed of light. Get your head round that one ;D
Thats the stupidest statement i've read on here for a while now!
Do light particles not travel at the speed of urmm what was it .... Oh yea light!
Interesting how they couldnt get the protons to reach the full speed of light. About 0.000019th of a second out according to the Metro (I know, I know... I like to read the grown up boys papers!). Just sounds lazy and half arsed to me............. If I am not mistaken...it is impossible to make a particle travel at the speed of light. However, it is not theoretically impossible (although it has not been done) to make a particle travel faster than the speed of light. Get your head round that one ;D Thats the stupidest statement i've read on here for a while now! Do light particles not travel at the speed of urmm what was it .... Oh yea light!
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