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The history makers, by pezlow on Apr 16, 2008 10:09:38 GMT 1, Each art movement has those that are remembered and those that are not. Those that have huge museum retrospectives and those that are confined to history books.
The YBA's have hirst and emin. The pop art movement Warhol and Lichenstein etc etc.
So my question is who is going to be the artists remembered in this movement? Banksy is a given, who are the other 2 or 3?
This is not a question about money or monetary value. I'm just interested to hear people's views of who the Tate modern will be showing in 50 years time?
If I had to place a bet on who the others would be I would say faile are looking more and more likely to step up to the plate and then maybe one of two from the following list - neate, parla, shep fairey, swoon, dface, walker, os gemeos.
Whaddya think?
Each art movement has those that are remembered and those that are not. Those that have huge museum retrospectives and those that are confined to history books.
The YBA's have hirst and emin. The pop art movement Warhol and Lichenstein etc etc.
So my question is who is going to be the artists remembered in this movement? Banksy is a given, who are the other 2 or 3?
This is not a question about money or monetary value. I'm just interested to hear people's views of who the Tate modern will be showing in 50 years time?
If I had to place a bet on who the others would be I would say faile are looking more and more likely to step up to the plate and then maybe one of two from the following list - neate, parla, shep fairey, swoon, dface, walker, os gemeos.
Whaddya think?
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The history makers, by richy00 on Apr 16, 2008 10:13:41 GMT 1, maybe add faile to the list?
maybe add faile to the list?
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The history makers, by carlito on Apr 16, 2008 10:13:57 GMT 1, who qualifies for the street art movement Pez? Neate has left pic's on the street, but intrinsically works in the studio/gallery setting, same as Parla....so I wouldn't necessarily include those....Faile definitely a good shout, you'd have to say possibly Walker as he has history (altho I'm inclined to leave him out because of the buzz around him at present), same with Dface, so I guess even tho I hate his work I'd say Shep....
who qualifies for the street art movement Pez? Neate has left pic's on the street, but intrinsically works in the studio/gallery setting, same as Parla....so I wouldn't necessarily include those....Faile definitely a good shout, you'd have to say possibly Walker as he has history (altho I'm inclined to leave him out because of the buzz around him at present), same with Dface, so I guess even tho I hate his work I'd say Shep....
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The history makers, by killerkellah on Apr 16, 2008 10:17:00 GMT 1, Faile, Shep Far
Faile, Shep Far
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The history makers, by insite on Apr 16, 2008 10:18:47 GMT 1, Shep and Blek
Shep and Blek
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The history makers, by pezlow on Apr 16, 2008 10:20:19 GMT 1, Yeah it is difficult to define who belongs to the movement but I think neate and parla should definitely be included as both come from a background of doing/leaving work on the street even if they now both work primarily in a gallery. In any event I am not sure that the contemporary art market will be that bothered about such fine distinctions in the future.
Yeah it is difficult to define who belongs to the movement but I think neate and parla should definitely be included as both come from a background of doing/leaving work on the street even if they now both work primarily in a gallery. In any event I am not sure that the contemporary art market will be that bothered about such fine distinctions in the future.
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The history makers, by top on Apr 16, 2008 10:20:33 GMT 1, Blek for sure.. if Denning qualifies, he's in too..
Blek for sure.. if Denning qualifies, he's in too..
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The history makers, by pezlow on Apr 16, 2008 10:21:44 GMT 1, I think banksy, faile and shep is a fair bet...
I think banksy, faile and shep is a fair bet...
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The history makers, by Bram on Apr 16, 2008 10:22:13 GMT 1, Neate.
Neate.
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The history makers, by mcnuts on Apr 16, 2008 10:24:28 GMT 1, hutch.. 100%
hutch.. 100%
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The history makers, by carlito on Apr 16, 2008 10:26:46 GMT 1, always with the Hutch McNuts - that boy's gonna think you're a cyber stalker!
always with the Hutch McNuts - that boy's gonna think you're a cyber stalker!
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The history makers, by manchestermike on Apr 16, 2008 10:31:17 GMT 1, Banksy - Of course
Faile - Probably
Neate - Yes
parla - Possibly
Shep Fairey - Probably
Swoon - Possibly
DFace - No
Walker - No
Os Gemeos - Possibly
Banksy - Of course
Faile - Probably
Neate - Yes
parla - Possibly
Shep Fairey - Probably
Swoon - Possibly
DFace - No
Walker - No
Os Gemeos - Possibly
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The history makers, by insite on Apr 16, 2008 10:31:36 GMT 1, You've got to include Neate, didn't he start with spray cans on the street ? I've seen some photos from a few years back and he was graffing with the best of 'em. Some recent stuff as well, Brazil maybe, South America for sure, couple of bits in a stir well and an awesome piece on a fence.
You've got to include Neate, didn't he start with spray cans on the street ? I've seen some photos from a few years back and he was graffing with the best of 'em. Some recent stuff as well, Brazil maybe, South America for sure, couple of bits in a stir well and an awesome piece on a fence.
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The history makers, by saltandiron on Apr 16, 2008 10:41:48 GMT 1, Banksy, swoon and shep. Maybe Faile.
Banksy, swoon and shep. Maybe Faile.
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The history makers, by Daniel Silk on Apr 16, 2008 10:43:21 GMT 1, Like it or not  People from outside the art world are gonna judge by the prices the Artists work gets at auction.
Like it or not People from outside the art world are gonna judge by the prices the Artists work gets at auction. |
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The history makers, by killerkellah on Apr 16, 2008 10:45:23 GMT 1, el chivo...if we ever find out who he is..
el chivo...if we ever find out who he is..
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The history makers, by faute on Apr 16, 2008 10:46:38 GMT 1, So my question is who is going to be the artists remembered in this movement? Banksy is a given, who are the other 2 or 3? This is not a question about money or monetary value. I'm just interested to hear people's views of who the Tate modern will be showing in 50 years time?
Which movement are you talking about? I'm not at all saying there is no movement. But, it would help to understand what's the movement? What does really link some artists to others?
neate and parla should definitely be included as both come from a background of doing/leaving work on the street .
If having put stuff in the streets is a major criteria, I woluld say Haring and Basquiat for sure. But, indeed not only because of the street aspect of their work.
I actually also believe some artists discussed here could be remembered but not simply because or as part of this movement.
Using internet to sell, putting up their own shows or having put stuff in streets? I am not a huge fan of categories, but throwing names as part of a movement without trying to define a movement does not make sense to me.
So my question is who is going to be the artists remembered in this movement? Banksy is a given, who are the other 2 or 3? This is not a question about money or monetary value. I'm just interested to hear people's views of who the Tate modern will be showing in 50 years time? Which movement are you talking about? I'm not at all saying there is no movement. But, it would help to understand what's the movement? What does really link some artists to others? neate and parla should definitely be included as both come from a background of doing/leaving work on the street . If having put stuff in the streets is a major criteria, I woluld say Haring and Basquiat for sure. But, indeed not only because of the street aspect of their work. I actually also believe some artists discussed here could be remembered but not simply because or as part of this movement. Using internet to sell, putting up their own shows or having put stuff in streets? I am not a huge fan of categories, but throwing names as part of a movement without trying to define a movement does not make sense to me. |
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The history makers, by slowmo on Apr 16, 2008 10:46:54 GMT 1, too early to say. US already have theirs, Basquiat and Haring, faile could well join them. South America? Loads going on there. UK, only really Banksy, but interesting topic.
too early to say. US already have theirs, Basquiat and Haring, faile could well join them. South America? Loads going on there. UK, only really Banksy, but interesting topic.
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The history makers, by felix on Apr 16, 2008 10:47:05 GMT 1, David Choe, a movement of his own
David Choe, a movement of his own
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The history makers, by Guest on Apr 16, 2008 11:18:04 GMT 1, 1. Banksy
2. Shepard Fairey
3. Blek le Rat
1. Banksy
2. Shepard Fairey
3. Blek le Rat
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The history makers, by onemandown72 on Apr 16, 2008 11:23:38 GMT 1, in any art movement this comes down to distinctive styles within a movement, rather than aping / copying. I have often stated that I feel that it will be more about images than artists. The handful who, to me have a dstinctive style that lifts their work out, and have worked in various cities as opposed to one place are:
Banksy
Faile
Shephard Fairey
Space Invader
I also am farily sure that their will be someone else who in time will grow and become an integral part, but this is somethign that only time can tell - maybe somebody like Eine, but I feel his work is too limted to an area of London to be more appealing
in any art movement this comes down to distinctive styles within a movement, rather than aping / copying. I have often stated that I feel that it will be more about images than artists. The handful who, to me have a dstinctive style that lifts their work out, and have worked in various cities as opposed to one place are:
Banksy
Faile
Shephard Fairey
Space Invader
I also am farily sure that their will be someone else who in time will grow and become an integral part, but this is somethign that only time can tell - maybe somebody like Eine, but I feel his work is too limted to an area of London to be more appealing
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The history makers, by pezlow on Apr 16, 2008 11:23:45 GMT 1, I think Basquait and Haring probably belong to a different movement - maybe street art part 1  It is probably too early to say and probably too early to categorise as we are living through it. But the art world does like to categorise and I am sure this body of artists producing works this century will be categorised and labelled and described as a movement in the future.
And yes the defining characteristics won't necessary be about putting work on the street. It will also be about the sale of work on the internet, the democratisation in the ownership of work etc etc. But ultimately I hope that most of these artists will be remembered long term for the work done on the street.
I think Basquait and Haring probably belong to a different movement - maybe street art part 1 It is probably too early to say and probably too early to categorise as we are living through it. But the art world does like to categorise and I am sure this body of artists producing works this century will be categorised and labelled and described as a movement in the future. And yes the defining characteristics won't necessary be about putting work on the street. It will also be about the sale of work on the internet, the democratisation in the ownership of work etc etc. But ultimately I hope that most of these artists will be remembered long term for the work done on the street. |
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The history makers, by pezlow on Apr 16, 2008 11:27:37 GMT 1, Like it or not People from outside the art world are gonna judge by the prices the Artists work gets at auction.
To an extent I agree with silky but I don't think it is quite as clearcut as that. I think most people judge art by their reaction to it, not the monetary value. A good example recently is the very positive reaction to public works of art installed by people like Anthony Gormley and Maggi Hambling.
Like it or not People from outside the art world are gonna judge by the prices the Artists work gets at auction. To an extent I agree with silky but I don't think it is quite as clearcut as that. I think most people judge art by their reaction to it, not the monetary value. A good example recently is the very positive reaction to public works of art installed by people like Anthony Gormley and Maggi Hambling. |
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The history makers, by mose on Apr 16, 2008 11:32:36 GMT 1, Parla
Banksy
Fairey
Being the big 3 who will have museum retrospectives and the like.
Os Gemeos
Micallef
Swoon(under her real name)
Being still regarded, known, collected, represented in museums, etc.
Parla
Banksy
Fairey
Being the big 3 who will have museum retrospectives and the like.
Os Gemeos
Micallef
Swoon(under her real name)
Being still regarded, known, collected, represented in museums, etc.
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The history makers, by robinbanks on Apr 16, 2008 11:36:51 GMT 1, If they do a retrospective in 50 years then I think that there will be 5 or 6 artists featured.
Banksy is a given, then almost certainly Faile. I don't think Neate will be included in this movement in 50 years, so that leaves him out. I suppose the OBEY stuff will have to feature somewhere. As for the other 2 or 3, I think they still have to make their mark but Nick Walker is an obvious candidate. I mentioned about 6 months ago that I thought his London TMA could well become one of the iconic images of the (UK at least) street art movement (and I was subsequently negged to hell and back).
As far as a place in Art History and a spot in the Tate Modern's permanent collection goes - then I'd have to say that Banksy and he alone will get anywhere near that.
If they do a retrospective in 50 years then I think that there will be 5 or 6 artists featured.
Banksy is a given, then almost certainly Faile. I don't think Neate will be included in this movement in 50 years, so that leaves him out. I suppose the OBEY stuff will have to feature somewhere. As for the other 2 or 3, I think they still have to make their mark but Nick Walker is an obvious candidate. I mentioned about 6 months ago that I thought his London TMA could well become one of the iconic images of the (UK at least) street art movement (and I was subsequently negged to hell and back).
As far as a place in Art History and a spot in the Tate Modern's permanent collection goes - then I'd have to say that Banksy and he alone will get anywhere near that.
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The history makers, by jamiet on Apr 16, 2008 11:37:06 GMT 1, Micallef (if he can be considered a part of this movement) is the most talented artist of his generation. No contest.
add Parla and Neate.
coming up on the rails, Swoon.
Micallef (if he can be considered a part of this movement) is the most talented artist of his generation. No contest.
add Parla and Neate.
coming up on the rails, Swoon.
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The history makers, by blackbeltjones on Apr 16, 2008 11:45:27 GMT 1, i wouldn't consider Micallef part of the movement.
Blek has to be mentioned
Banksy
Faile
shep
i wouldn't consider Micallef part of the movement.
Blek has to be mentioned
Banksy
Faile
shep
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The history makers, by They call me Stephen on Apr 16, 2008 11:51:43 GMT 1, maybe not directly but he happens to be working in the same period and has close links to other key artists within it. I think he will be included alongside Banksy & Faile in any kind of retrospect.
Shep would be included for his sheer output alone and his almost saturation of the scene. I wouldnt say his talent is enough to included him.
I'd say any retrospect would look at 5-6 artists as robin banks mentioned. For me, 3 definates would be;
Banksy
Faile
Micallef
Not sure on the others
maybe not directly but he happens to be working in the same period and has close links to other key artists within it. I think he will be included alongside Banksy & Faile in any kind of retrospect. Shep would be included for his sheer output alone and his almost saturation of the scene. I wouldnt say his talent is enough to included him. I'd say any retrospect would look at 5-6 artists as robin banks mentioned. For me, 3 definates would be; Banksy Faile Micallef Not sure on the others |
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The history makers, by Grafter on Apr 16, 2008 11:55:21 GMT 1, el chivo...if we ever find out who he is..
I 2nd that, big time..
Love his stuff. Sadly missed.
el chivo...if we ever find out who he is.. I 2nd that, big time.. Love his stuff. Sadly missed. |
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People from outside the art world are gonna judge by the prices the Artists work gets at auction.
It is probably too early to say and probably too early to categorise as we are living through it. But the art world does like to categorise and I am sure this body of artists producing works this century will be categorised and labelled and described as a movement in the future.
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