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SANDRA CHEVRIER - ARTWORK, by Poster Bob on Oct 18, 2023 11:25:23 GMT 1, Are things really that slow that a catalog needs to be posted to a forum?
Are things really that slow that a catalog needs to be posted to a forum?
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2023 16:51:37 GMT 1, Where do you reside where shipping and tax costs $2,500 on a $9,500 item? I would strongly advise that you always open every item that you purchase upon receipt to inspect for damage. For all you know this thing is in 5 pieces. For me it's basically everything other than books or OG if bought from outside of EU. First import duty, than 23% Vat. You should pay 8%. This link is broken, but it was on page 14. Try and find a new version, and always quote it when dealing with an agent!
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Where do you reside where shipping and tax costs $2,500 on a $9,500 item? I would strongly advise that you always open every item that you purchase upon receipt to inspect for damage. For all you know this thing is in 5 pieces. For me it's basically everything other than books or OG if bought from outside of EU. First import duty, than 23% Vat. You should pay 8%. This link is broken, but it was on page 14. Try and find a new version, and always quote it when dealing with an agent! taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/sites/default/files/resources/documents/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/rates/vat_rates_en.pdf
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Peter Doig ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ Print Release โข Scottish Painter, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2023 16:23:54 GMT 1, What's the import rate on these? Oct 5, 2023 at 2:00pm
What's the import rate on these? Oct 5, 2023 at 2:00pm
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2023 16:20:38 GMT 1, $9,500 + tax + ship which brought it to about $12,000 USD. Where do you reside where shipping and tax costs $2,500 on a $9,500 item? I would strongly advise that you always open every item that you purchase upon receipt to inspect for damage. For all you know this thing is in 5 pieces.
$9,500 + tax + ship which brought it to about $12,000 USD. Where do you reside where shipping and tax costs $2,500 on a $9,500 item? I would strongly advise that you always open every item that you purchase upon receipt to inspect for damage. For all you know this thing is in 5 pieces.
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Thierry Noir ๐จ๐ต Berlin Wall โข French Street Arist , by Poster Bob on Oct 9, 2023 14:39:33 GMT 1, If you look at the most recent sale for something from this series youโll see that prices have changed, and can adjust your expectations accordingly.
If you look at the most recent sale for something from this series youโll see that prices have changed, and can adjust your expectations accordingly.
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Pejac - New show - NYC, by Poster Bob on Oct 5, 2023 15:15:43 GMT 1, Here comes 10-20 pages about print โrafflesโ and buying postcards.
Here comes 10-20 pages about print โrafflesโ and buying postcards.
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Harland Miller โOUIโ 2023 Limited Edition, by Poster Bob on Oct 5, 2023 15:14:13 GMT 1, I donโt like the image of the print when compared to that of the canvas. A shame, but either way I wasnโt in the market for this print.
I donโt like the image of the print when compared to that of the canvas. A shame, but either way I wasnโt in the market for this print.
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Peter Doig ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ Print Release โข Scottish Painter, by Poster Bob on Oct 5, 2023 14:00:18 GMT 1, The same questions are asked every time HENI releases something.
They ALWAYS ship from the UK, and their shipping costs are very low.
You are subject to VAT based on where you live, and UK customers will pay 20%, anyone else will pay according to their countryโs import tax rules on art. Some of them allow a favorable rate, but giclees may not fall into that favorable category. Normally you can just request it and the shipping agent is none the wiser.
They charge in dollars.
The HENI vault apparently no longer exists.
You will be blacklisted if you auction it and they see the edition number.
Now Iโll see the same questions asked another four or five times today.
The same questions are asked every time HENI releases something. They ALWAYS ship from the UK, and their shipping costs are very low. You are subject to VAT based on where you live, and UK customers will pay 20%, anyone else will pay according to their countryโs import tax rules on art. Some of them allow a favorable rate, but giclees may not fall into that favorable category. Normally you can just request it and the shipping agent is none the wiser. They charge in dollars. The HENI vault apparently no longer exists. You will be blacklisted if you auction it and they see the edition number. Now Iโll see the same questions asked another four or five times today.
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Tide ๐ฏ๐ต Tatsuhiro Ide โข Cat โข New Print Release , by Poster Bob on Oct 4, 2023 21:34:48 GMT 1, Yes, but remember sellersโ, illustration, insurance, and shipping fees will take another 10% off of that $2,016. Unfortunately, anyone who was a preferred Avant Arte collector will now find that they canโt even get their money back on the majority of releases.
Yes, but remember sellersโ, illustration, insurance, and shipping fees will take another 10% off of that $2,016. Unfortunately, anyone who was a preferred Avant Arte collector will now find that they canโt even get their money back on the majority of releases.
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Harland Miller โOUIโ 2023 Limited Edition, by Poster Bob on Oct 4, 2023 14:38:52 GMT 1, Donโt agree with this. Heโs a good artist who has had reasonable success but hasnโt made much progress is the art world in the last 5+ years. To be fair, I don't think any artists have made much progress in the art world in the last 5 years. Harland Miller doesn't bring out new release all that often. People will fight each other for one of these. Although, of course, the price may well frighten some people off (including me). This will be his fifth this year.
Donโt agree with this. Heโs a good artist who has had reasonable success but hasnโt made much progress is the art world in the last 5+ years. To be fair, I don't think any artists have made much progress in the art world in the last 5 years. Harland Miller doesn't bring out new release all that often. People will fight each other for one of these. Although, of course, the price may well frighten some people off (including me). This will be his fifth this year.
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Harland Miller โOUIโ 2023 Limited Edition, by Poster Bob on Oct 3, 2023 17:17:23 GMT 1, They will not sell well. The prices, as usual, will start off too high. Theyโve been exclusively selling low-tiered prints to galleries and preferred collectors for too long, and as such, have not maximized their customer base. Factor in the current state of the market, where auction results show that the mid-tier prices from previous releases are currently unachievable at auction, and youโve got a release that will never sell out. If youโre in this for anything other than the image, you should wait for something better. That said, I love the image.
They will not sell well. The prices, as usual, will start off too high. Theyโve been exclusively selling low-tiered prints to galleries and preferred collectors for too long, and as such, have not maximized their customer base. Factor in the current state of the market, where auction results show that the mid-tier prices from previous releases are currently unachievable at auction, and youโve got a release that will never sell out. If youโre in this for anything other than the image, you should wait for something better. That said, I love the image.
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Julie Curtiss ๐จ๐ต New York Based โข New Release โข For Sale, by Poster Bob on Oct 3, 2023 11:23:04 GMT 1, I saw the image and said โnahโ, then I saw the price and laughed out loud. Absolutely wild pricing and destined to stay around for years.
I saw the image and said โnahโ, then I saw the price and laughed out loud. Absolutely wild pricing and destined to stay around for years.
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Szabolcs Bozo ๐ญ๐บ Szabi โข Hungary โข Fantastical Creatures , by Poster Bob on Oct 3, 2023 11:21:43 GMT 1, Avant Arte charge very high prices that remove all, if not more, of the difference between the initial price and the market price. They were able to do this for so long as they clearly had a very strong customer base who bought many releases per year. Look at the effects of inflation and rising interest rates and we now see that the constancy of sold-out releases has come to an end, and many are still available like: Shaina McCoy; Danielle Orchard; Takeru Amano; etc. Look at the decrease in demand for timed editions such as Jose Parla, figures for which fell massively YoY. Figures for the Elizabeth Peyton editions were never released, presumably because of how few were sold. Members are now unable to sell Avant releases at cost, or below. Don't assume any profitability from it, nor the ability to curry and favor with AA; only buy it if you love the image and want it in your home. I think Avant Arte have quietly released the Elizabeth Peyton edition figures - 100 and 40, crazy low given how much they pushed them I find it impossible to believe that the demand would have lead to such nice multiples of 10, so they seem padded. The image and price determines the sales figures. No one expected them to do well, but I would love to know how many were actually ordered.
Avant Arte charge very high prices that remove all, if not more, of the difference between the initial price and the market price. They were able to do this for so long as they clearly had a very strong customer base who bought many releases per year. Look at the effects of inflation and rising interest rates and we now see that the constancy of sold-out releases has come to an end, and many are still available like: Shaina McCoy; Danielle Orchard; Takeru Amano; etc. Look at the decrease in demand for timed editions such as Jose Parla, figures for which fell massively YoY. Figures for the Elizabeth Peyton editions were never released, presumably because of how few were sold. Members are now unable to sell Avant releases at cost, or below. Don't assume any profitability from it, nor the ability to curry and favor with AA; only buy it if you love the image and want it in your home. I think Avant Arte have quietly released the Elizabeth Peyton edition figures - 100 and 40, crazy low given how much they pushed them I find it impossible to believe that the demand would have lead to such nice multiples of 10, so they seem padded. The image and price determines the sales figures. No one expected them to do well, but I would love to know how many were actually ordered.
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Otis Kwame Kye Quaicoe ๐ฌ๐ญ Portrait Artist โข Ghana, by Poster Bob on Oct 1, 2023 9:14:09 GMT 1, $800 on EBay
$800 on EBay
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Tide ๐ฏ๐ต Tatsuhiro Ide โข Cat โข New Print Release , by Poster Bob on Sept 30, 2023 8:10:29 GMT 1, This piece failed to get a single bid this week, with a starting price of ยฃ1,500 IIRC, hence all of the comments. The only chance you have of getting anything in the $8-10k range is an in-season auction at SBI, and a ton of luck.
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ICA 75 Years Print Portfolio, by Poster Bob on Sept 26, 2023 14:33:39 GMT 1, That lackluster showcase of a mediocre roster isnโt going anywhere any time soon.
That lackluster showcase of a mediocre roster isnโt going anywhere any time soon.
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Nick Smith ๐ฌ๐ง Pixelated Art โข Colour Swatches โข New Print, by Poster Bob on Sept 24, 2023 18:57:58 GMT 1, Framing adds no value to the print. You should use the price of the unframed copy as the going amount.
Framing adds no value to the print. You should use the price of the unframed copy as the going amount.
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Gerhard Richter ๐ฉ๐ช Abstract โข Contemporary Art โข New Relea, by Poster Bob on Sept 22, 2023 15:43:23 GMT 1, So they made a few hundred quid? My sentiment remains - the piece absolutely tanked, which should be surprising to most (but kudos for latching on to the true intention of my post, which you expertly deciphered as: โplease correct my grammarโ.) A* contribution as always Bob. They should have profited by about ยฃ1,400 assuming a 10% sellerโs fee and using todayโs conversion figure, which is a shortcoming of the calculation. Itโs unfair to say that the piece absolutely tanked without considering the state of the market. As such, Iโd say that it did as expected.
So they made a few hundred quid? My sentiment remains - the piece absolutely tanked, which should be surprising to most (but kudos for latching on to the true intention of my post, which you expertly deciphered as: โplease correct my grammarโ.) A* contribution as always Bob. They should have profited by about ยฃ1,400 assuming a 10% sellerโs fee and using todayโs conversion figure, which is a shortcoming of the calculation. Itโs unfair to say that the piece absolutely tanked without considering the state of the market. As such, Iโd say that it did as expected.
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Gerhard Richter ๐ฉ๐ช Abstract โข Contemporary Art โข New Relea, by Poster Bob on Sept 22, 2023 14:31:17 GMT 1, Holy moly. This tanked at auction! What gives? Buyer wouldโve netted less than cost :/ I think you meant to say that โthe seller would have net less than costโ which is simply untrue unless they agreed to pay over 36% in fees. (I used todayโs GBP/EUR conversion as opposed to a historical one)
Holy moly. This tanked at auction! What gives? Buyer wouldโve netted less than cost :/ I think you meant to say that โthe seller would have net less than costโ which is simply untrue unless they agreed to pay over 36% in fees. (I used todayโs GBP/EUR conversion as opposed to a historical one)
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Poster Bob on Sept 20, 2023 15:10:57 GMT 1, Iโve got one for ยฃ2,250 if anyone is interested. Located near Millwall. True brue weโs is.
Iโve got one for ยฃ2,250 if anyone is interested. Located near Millwall. True brue weโs is.
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Royal mail insurance Dont risk it! (probably), by Poster Bob on Sept 15, 2023 11:28:33 GMT 1, I also donโt understand what has occurred but have previously been compensated by RM for the sales price of items. Iโve said it before but virtually all couriers will take your money for insurance but they have clauses excluding them from liability for art, antiques, collectibles, anything that has appreciated in value, the list goes on.
I also donโt understand what has occurred but have previously been compensated by RM for the sales price of items. Iโve said it before but virtually all couriers will take your money for insurance but they have clauses excluding them from liability for art, antiques, collectibles, anything that has appreciated in value, the list goes on.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Poster Bob on Aug 29, 2023 13:25:57 GMT 1, Also does anyone know how long they are taking to convert NFT deeds into phyisical at the moment? They quote 3 months but I believe are dispatching quicker than this. Is that correct? Around 3 months is correct from my experience. Currently on day 50 or so and still waiting for the most recent one I exchanged.
Also does anyone know how long they are taking to convert NFT deeds into phyisical at the moment? They quote 3 months but I believe are dispatching quicker than this. Is that correct? Around 3 months is correct from my experience. Currently on day 50 or so and still waiting for the most recent one I exchanged.
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Tracey Emin, Just Waiting (2022), by Poster Bob on Aug 24, 2023 14:39:17 GMT 1, If youโre offering at cost why not see if you can get a refund? Because first-tier as he put it was ยฃ6k, which was ยฃ4.8k after applying the 20% discount code and heโd prefer a profit. Which there is no issue with.
If youโre offering at cost why not see if you can get a refund? Because first-tier as he put it was ยฃ6k, which was ยฃ4.8k after applying the 20% discount code and heโd prefer a profit. Which there is no issue with.
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Damien Hirst โข Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Poster Bob on Aug 17, 2023 16:13:56 GMT 1, People still continue to think that low edition sizes correspond to higher values. This is dependent upon image quality, and in the case of times releases, low editions are driven by low demand due to poor images. Ask yourselves, how often do you see wanted threads for a signed Toxic Mary as opposed to a Banksquiat? Why do you think that is? beside that, I think in this particular case other factor drove the demand. 1- not the best time to do a release; most people are on vacation and summer time is not the best time to buy art. 2- The Art Market is in a difficult stage (bear market). 3- edition size of the empresses (2000 pieces per print) teach that hype beats taste. My opinion on this release is that in 2 years WLMS will be much desired than Blossom. Edition size will determinate an increase in prices. A no to unnumbered points 4 and 5. Blizzard may do well on the secondary, I liked it, but the visibility of the canvas grain irritated me to no end.
People still continue to think that low edition sizes correspond to higher values. This is dependent upon image quality, and in the case of times releases, low editions are driven by low demand due to poor images. Ask yourselves, how often do you see wanted threads for a signed Toxic Mary as opposed to a Banksquiat? Why do you think that is? beside that, I think in this particular case other factor drove the demand. 1- not the best time to do a release; most people are on vacation and summer time is not the best time to buy art. 2- The Art Market is in a difficult stage (bear market). 3- edition size of the empresses (2000 pieces per print) teach that hype beats taste. My opinion on this release is that in 2 years WLMS will be much desired than Blossom. Edition size will determinate an increase in prices. A no to unnumbered points 4 and 5. Blizzard may do well on the secondary, I liked it, but the visibility of the canvas grain irritated me to no end.
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Damien Hirst โข Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Poster Bob on Aug 17, 2023 16:10:55 GMT 1, Anyone know if any signed posters are still available? Trying to get a friend to collect one . ๐๐ป๐๐ป Based on selling 100 a day, and theyโre being 200 of each, sold from Saturday (some could have been sold on Friday), they should sell out today. I would call before sending them down.
Anyone know if any signed posters are still available? Trying to get a friend to collect one . ๐๐ป๐๐ป Based on selling 100 a day, and theyโre being 200 of each, sold from Saturday (some could have been sold on Friday), they should sell out today. I would call before sending them down.
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Damien Hirst โข Where the Land Meets the Sea, by Poster Bob on Aug 17, 2023 15:36:24 GMT 1, People still continue to think that low edition sizes correspond to higher values. This is dependent upon image quality, and in the case of times releases, low editions are driven by low demand due to poor images. Ask yourselves, how often do you see wanted threads for a signed Toxic Mary as opposed to a Banksquiat? Why do you think that is?
People still continue to think that low edition sizes correspond to higher values. This is dependent upon image quality, and in the case of times releases, low editions are driven by low demand due to poor images. Ask yourselves, how often do you see wanted threads for a signed Toxic Mary as opposed to a Banksquiat? Why do you think that is?
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Poster Bob on Aug 16, 2023 18:08:56 GMT 1, Any Catawiki results should be disregarded. Like quoting the price of a Rolex sold at a flea market. Why do you say that? I often sell or buy on catawiki and I am quiet happy with it Because one of the first steps of analysis is to remove garbage.
Any Catawiki results should be disregarded. Like quoting the price of a Rolex sold at a flea market. Why do you say that? I often sell or buy on catawiki and I am quiet happy with it Because one of the first steps of analysis is to remove garbage.
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Heni x Invader 'Rubikcubism', by Poster Bob on Aug 16, 2023 17:59:55 GMT 1, This result is pleasant to see but not really relevant. Reminds of 3D little big Space sold at christie ยดs. As of today, there are 23 Invader Heni editions for sale on ebay. About half of it are Marilyns. They are today the hardest to sell with a good price as offer remains strong. My understanding of market is that you can get one for arround 5k. A Country Life is currently auctionned on Catawiki . 3 days remaining and it is a 3,7kโฌ + fees (9%). To me, sales on Catawiki are often a good indicator of market state for an edition. Will post the result Final result : 4300 including fees. Not bad but not crazy. I guess market is arround 4k to 5k for this รฉdition right now Any Catawiki results should be disregarded. Like quoting the price of a Rolex sold at a flea market.
This result is pleasant to see but not really relevant. Reminds of 3D little big Space sold at christie ยดs. As of today, there are 23 Invader Heni editions for sale on ebay. About half of it are Marilyns. They are today the hardest to sell with a good price as offer remains strong. My understanding of market is that you can get one for arround 5k. A Country Life is currently auctionned on Catawiki . 3 days remaining and it is a 3,7kโฌ + fees (9%). To me, sales on Catawiki are often a good indicator of market state for an edition. Will post the result Final result : 4300 including fees. Not bad but not crazy. I guess market is arround 4k to 5k for this รฉdition right now Any Catawiki results should be disregarded. Like quoting the price of a Rolex sold at a flea market.
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