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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 23:39:04 GMT 1, Grannies, grin reaper, festival APโs and Choose Your Weapon flouro all the same framer.. looks like someone is having a yard sale Perhaps getting ahead of a possible CGT increase tomorrow? There won't be an increase. They'll keep it the same along with the tax-free allowance and the 40% tax rate. Conservatives love their money; they'd go nuts if Rishi cost them money.
Grannies, grin reaper, festival APโs and Choose Your Weapon flouro all the same framer.. looks like someone is having a yard sale Perhaps getting ahead of a possible CGT increase tomorrow? There won't be an increase. They'll keep it the same along with the tax-free allowance and the 40% tax rate. Conservatives love their money; they'd go nuts if Rishi cost them money.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 21:41:09 GMT 1, So in case people don't know how to determine the number of orders, what you do is post the whole number minus the last two digits; the middle information looks essential as there's no way they're selling thousands of each print.
So in case people don't know how to determine the number of orders, what you do is post the whole number minus the last two digits; the middle information looks essential as there's no way they're selling thousands of each print.
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:56:39 GMT 1, Finally, a Kate Moss with COA in a premier house. Disappointed there's no Stop & Search though.
Finally, a Kate Moss with COA in a premier house. Disappointed there's no Stop & Search though.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:42:01 GMT 1, I think all four you mentioned are strong images. I think 1 will be the best-selling edition from the series.
Does anyone have an update on order numbers? Really curious how many orders have been made, even though it isn't indicative of edition sizes. I plan to order tomorrow and will post an indication. My only problem is: I'm still undecided. 1 or 3? 1 and 3? May 4 or 8?ย
I think all four you mentioned are strong images. I think 1 will be the best-selling edition from the series. Does anyone have an update on order numbers? Really curious how many orders have been made, even though it isn't indicative of edition sizes. I plan to order tomorrow and will post an indication. My only problem is: I'm still undecided. 1 or 3? 1 and 3? May 4 or 8?ย
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:33:52 GMT 1, Does anyone have an update on order numbers? Really curious how many orders have been made, even though it isn't indicative of edition sizes.
Does anyone have an update on order numbers? Really curious how many orders have been made, even though it isn't indicative of edition sizes.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:22:48 GMT 1, You don't get charged a CC fee. Within your account you can hold balances in multiple currencies. When paying it will default to use an account in that currency. So, if I want to buy two Hirst prints I'll figure out the amount due, convert ยฃ to $ in the Revolut app at Revolut's exchange rate, then pay with my Revolut debit card and pay no additional fees to anyone.
An account comes with a debit card which you can use to make payments. I convert whatever currency I have into what I want to make the payment in, then make the payment by card. Thanks. ย So is that the MasterCard rate you get charged? ย Mastercard always charge a worse rate than the standard exchange rate quoted on google. ย I have a mastercard credit card with zero foreign transaction fee. Would that be the same as Revolut?
You don't get charged a CC fee. Within your account you can hold balances in multiple currencies. When paying it will default to use an account in that currency. So, if I want to buy two Hirst prints I'll figure out the amount due, convert ยฃ to $ in the Revolut app at Revolut's exchange rate, then pay with my Revolut debit card and pay no additional fees to anyone. An account comes with a debit card which you can use to make payments. I convert whatever currency I have into what I want to make the payment in, then make the payment by card. Thanks. ย So is that the MasterCard rate you get charged? ย Mastercard always charge a worse rate than the standard exchange rate quoted on google. ย I have a mastercard credit card with zero foreign transaction fee. Would that be the same as Revolut?
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Hirst Cherry Blossom Edition Size, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:18:13 GMT 1, He makes his own artwork now.
Heni say these are hand signed not signed by an autopen or machine. You think the guy that doesn't even make his own artwork is going to hand sign all the labels?
He makes his own artwork now. Heni say these are hand signed not signed by an autopen or machine. You think the guy that doesn't even make his own artwork is going to hand sign all the labels?
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 20:11:28 GMT 1, An account comes with a debit card which you can use to make payments. I convert whatever currency I have into what I want to make the payment in, then make the payment by card.
I'd say at this point that if you're being charged a non-sterling fee you should switch banks or your card provider. I use and would recommend Revolut. Don't you need the recipient's bank details for Revolut? ย Heni do not show bank transfer or anything similar as a payment option. ย
An account comes with a debit card which you can use to make payments. I convert whatever currency I have into what I want to make the payment in, then make the payment by card. I'd say at this point that if you're being charged a non-sterling fee you should switch banks or your card provider. I use and would recommend Revolut. Don't you need the recipient's bank details for Revolut? ย Heni do not show bank transfer or anything similar as a payment option. ย
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 2, 2021 16:07:47 GMT 1, Don't forget your non sterling transaction fee if you're buying one of these in the UK I'd say at this point that if you're being charged a non-sterling fee you should switch banks or your card provider. I use and would recommend Revolut.
Don't forget your non sterling transaction fee if you're buying one of these in the UK I'd say at this point that if you're being charged a non-sterling fee you should switch banks or your card provider. I use and would recommend Revolut.
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Hirst Cherry Blossom Edition Size, by Poster Bob on Mar 1, 2021 20:54:48 GMT 1, And yet again I find myself throughly entertained by the nonsense talked on this board. Accepting two different cryptocurrencies will not cause a large increase in the edition sizes. Here's what to consider in terms of positive effects on the secondary market:
- They're not cheap compared to the the affordable Fruitful and Forever prints and the even more affordable Rainbow and Heart.
- They do not come in different sizes and they're all the same price.
- They're large, signed, decent images of work he painted himself.
- They do not require framing and come ready to be hung on the wall.
- They're very easy to store if you're only interested in a profit.
I'd say the edition sizes will be around 500ish each, with quite a bit of variation. The larger galleries are going to have their employees buy full sets of these. A few friends have asked me if they can make a quick buck off of these. My opinion is that you'll be able to make a profit of 100% within two years. You can never tell how many people will try to dump them on Ebay and then race each other to the bottom when undercutting just to make their money back.
And yet again I find myself throughly entertained by the nonsense talked on this board. Accepting two different cryptocurrencies will not cause a large increase in the edition sizes. Here's what to consider in terms of positive effects on the secondary market:
- They're not cheap compared to the the affordable Fruitful and Forever prints and the even more affordable Rainbow and Heart.
- They do not come in different sizes and they're all the same price.
- They're large, signed, decent images of work he painted himself.
- They do not require framing and come ready to be hung on the wall.
- They're very easy to store if you're only interested in a profit.
I'd say the edition sizes will be around 500ish each, with quite a bit of variation. The larger galleries are going to have their employees buy full sets of these. A few friends have asked me if they can make a quick buck off of these. My opinion is that you'll be able to make a profit of 100% within two years. You can never tell how many people will try to dump them on Ebay and then race each other to the bottom when undercutting just to make their money back.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 20:59:31 GMT 1, White, tray frame.
I do fancy one of these. I know that they can be hung directly, but I think they might look better framed. Any thoughts about framing?
White, tray frame. I do fancy one of these. I know that they can be hung directly, but I think they might look better framed. Any thoughts about framing?
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 19:41:32 GMT 1, The release price means nothing other than, in general, setting a minimum price. Secondary price is determined by image quality, size and limitation. Without a doubt, H4-7 is the least desirable of the series. You're assuming that you're going to be offered a signed Hirst; I wouldn't count on it as the competition is steep. I have a friend who owns over 10 HENI prints, has never sold a thing, and still hasn't been offered a thing by Hirst.
What makes you think that you're making a fair comparison by using the least desirable print of the H4 series before its price even matures? I'm making the only comparison available to me. I'm no Hirst expert(why I asked what the release price was), you say it's his least desirable, is this the general consensus or personal opinion? I am interested in buying but don't want to pay $3000 for one of possibly thousands if his usual limited drops would cost say $4500 for 1/75. Edit: I now know they were $6000 + costs. Thanks Blurp
The release price means nothing other than, in general, setting a minimum price. Secondary price is determined by image quality, size and limitation. Without a doubt, H4-7 is the least desirable of the series. You're assuming that you're going to be offered a signed Hirst; I wouldn't count on it as the competition is steep. I have a friend who owns over 10 HENI prints, has never sold a thing, and still hasn't been offered a thing by Hirst. What makes you think that you're making a fair comparison by using the least desirable print of the H4 series before its price even matures? I'm making the only comparison available to me. I'm no Hirst expert(why I asked what the release price was), you say it's his least desirable, is this the general consensus or personal opinion? I am interested in buying but don't want to pay $3000 for one of possibly thousands if his usual limited drops would cost say $4500 for 1/75. Edit: I now know they were $6000 + costs. Thanks Blurp
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 19:15:38 GMT 1, What makes you think that you're making a fair comparison by using the least desirable print of the H4 series before its price even matures?
Compared to the price of run of the mill NFT's these are essentially being given away. H4-7, which is similar size, has sold a few times on ebay, roughly 9-10 thousand, but they are limited to just 75. So if these sell by the truck load then perhaps $3000 plus costs is high enough. IMO for a timed edition they are not bargain priced. What was the cost of the H4-7s on release?
What makes you think that you're making a fair comparison by using the least desirable print of the H4 series before its price even matures? Compared to the price of run of the mill NFT's these are essentially being given away. H4-7, which is similar size, has sold a few times on ebay, roughly 9-10 thousand, but they are limited to just 75. So if these sell by the truck load then perhaps $3000 plus costs is high enough. IMO for a timed edition they are not bargain priced. What was the cost of the H4-7s on release?
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Art Insurance in the UK, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 19:13:14 GMT 1, All I can say is that my experience was different than yours!
Whether or not you have to depends on the total amount the policy covers and the price of any particular individual item. I made the assumption the OP was referring to a Banksy, which should break that threshold. Not necessarily with their Select brand. I have several Banky's included, no valuations
All I can say is that my experience was different than yours! Whether or not you have to depends on the total amount the policy covers and the price of any particular individual item. I made the assumption the OP was referring to a Banksy, which should break that threshold. Not necessarily with their Select brand. I have several Banky's included, no valuations
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Art Insurance in the UK, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 19:00:41 GMT 1, Whether or not you have to depends on the total amount the policy covers and the price of any particular individual item. I made the assumption the OP was referring to a Banksy, which should break that threshold.
Direct Line will require evaluations.ย I haven't provided any and they have covered all my pieces
Whether or not you have to depends on the total amount the policy covers and the price of any particular individual item. I made the assumption the OP was referring to a Banksy, which should break that threshold. Direct Line will require evaluations.ย I haven't provided any and they have covered all my pieces
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Art Insurance in the UK, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 18:12:16 GMT 1, If you are UK based I can recommend either Hiscox (was with them for around 10 years) or Direct Line Select. Both cover high value pieces, just have to be itemised if over a certain value Direct Line will require evaluations.
If you are UK based I can recommend either Hiscox (was with them for around 10 years) or Direct Line Select. Both cover high value pieces, just have to be itemised if over a certain value Direct Line will require evaluations.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 13:16:32 GMT 1, No, they're not all in Switzerland. There are several free port storage facilities in the UK. You won't pay tax until it leaves.
I can't get my head round how you can buy a print and not pay any Vat if its stored in their vault. Obviously all above board, but seems strange. Is that confirmed that you pay no VAT if it's in the vault? ย Unless the vault is in a top secret facility in Switzerland then surely you still have to pay VAT on any sales regardless of where it is stored. ย The tax is on sales and a stored print is a sale. ย
No, they're not all in Switzerland. There are several free port storage facilities in the UK. You won't pay tax until it leaves. I can't get my head round how you can buy a print and not pay any Vat if its stored in their vault. Obviously all above board, but seems strange. Is that confirmed that you pay no VAT if it's in the vault? ย Unless the vault is in a top secret facility in Switzerland then surely you still have to pay VAT on any sales regardless of where it is stored. ย The tax is on sales and a stored print is a sale. ย
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 11:54:23 GMT 1, The same as with anything sold anywhere in the world, you pay VAT at the applicable rate at time of purchase if it is being sent to the same country. Otherwise, VAT is removed at the time of purchase and you are then charged the applicable rate at the time of import.
Anyone explain the Vat situation, if I have it sent to Europe I donโt pay vat and if I have sent to the UK I do pay vat? I know Heni is based in Soho - seems to be better if I send it to the mother in laws who lives in europe
The same as with anything sold anywhere in the world, you pay VAT at the applicable rate at time of purchase if it is being sent to the same country. Otherwise, VAT is removed at the time of purchase and you are then charged the applicable rate at the time of import. Anyone explain the Vat situation, if I have it sent to Europe I donโt pay vat and if I have sent to the UK I do pay vat? I know Heni is based in Soho - seems to be better if I send it to the mother in laws who lives in europe
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 1:22:31 GMT 1, Apparently the lessons of the Soviet Union have fallen upon deaf ears and people still think equity creates utopia. jeez no one could have guessed that response. What's the next talking point in this sequence to deny that there is an issue? Is it time for you to call me marxist yet? You've clearly been well indoctrinated into theories proven incorrect a long time ago.
Apparently the lessons of the Soviet Union have fallen upon deaf ears and people still think equity creates utopia. jeez no one could have guessed that response. What's the next talking point in this sequence to deny that there is an issue? Is it time for you to call me marxist yet? You've clearly been well indoctrinated into theories proven incorrect a long time ago.
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 0:11:20 GMT 1, Apparently the lessons of the Soviet Union have fallen upon deaf ears and people still think equity creates utopia.
Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome. ah I see, so if one group of people is at a systematic disadvantage when compared to others, then you would agree that those people should be entitled to an equality of opportunity? You're almost there.
Apparently the lessons of the Soviet Union have fallen upon deaf ears and people still think equity creates utopia. Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome. ah I see, so if one group of people is at a systematic disadvantage when compared to others, then you would agree that those people should be entitled to an equality of opportunity? You're almost there.
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 26, 2021 0:03:15 GMT 1, It seems that you have not had much exposure to how people are indoctrinated into the lies of white privilege and whiteness. You are made to admit your complicity, regardless of your beliefs and personal virtues in order to become an "ally".
It's racist, pure and simple. If the same logic was applied to other races the left would be appalled.
The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย Utter tosh. All white people aren't guilty by default and I don't think many think this way. Societies have a lot of levelling up to do, but individuals are only guilty if they abuse privilege or fail to acknowledge there is a problem within society. There is no witch hunt from the left. And there is no slandering of entire races coming from those who are appalled by discrimination. You might be right that it may be impossible to atone for historical injustices but that's no reason to not endeavour.
It seems that you have not had much exposure to how people are indoctrinated into the lies of white privilege and whiteness. You are made to admit your complicity, regardless of your beliefs and personal virtues in order to become an "ally". It's racist, pure and simple. If the same logic was applied to other races the left would be appalled. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย Utter tosh. All white people aren't guilty by default and I don't think many think this way. Societies have a lot of levelling up to do, but individuals are only guilty if they abuse privilege or fail to acknowledge there is a problem within society. There is no witch hunt from the left. And there is no slandering of entire races coming from those who are appalled by discrimination. You might be right that it may be impossible to atone for historical injustices but that's no reason to not endeavour.
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 23:32:28 GMT 1, Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome.
At no point did I say nor allude that I view anyone as an "other", "lazy", "cheating the system", or that I deserved better. "Equity"
Saying that everyone is entitled to the same outcome, regardless of effort is the main concept of equity. Everyone is entitled to equality of opportunity in a free and equal society. They are not entitled to the same outcome. At no point did I say nor allude that I view anyone as an "other", "lazy", "cheating the system", or that I deserved better. "Equity"
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 23:26:16 GMT 1, At no point did I say nor allude that I view anyone as an "other", "lazy", "cheating the system", or that I deserved better.
There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is. it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it. But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better
At no point did I say nor allude that I view anyone as an "other", "lazy", "cheating the system", or that I deserved better. There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is. it's ok to recognize that this aren't equal, to say so, and to make changes because of it. But I get it, you worked hard and the "others" are "lazy" and "cheating the system". You deserve to be better
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 23:08:15 GMT 1, There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is.
The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย now all your arguments make sense, you have all the right talking points for your platform, kudos. Go ahead and tell me that equality is a leftist belief, please.
There is nothing wrong with equality, it's a human right. Equity is where the issue is. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.ย If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.ย now all your arguments make sense, you have all the right talking points for your platform, kudos. Go ahead and tell me that equality is a leftist belief, please.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 22:37:23 GMT 1, I'll pay cost.
Would really like one but I would need to shift a different Hirst edition before committing to purchasing one of these. Donโt spose anyone wants to buy a large rainbow do they?
I'll pay cost. Would really like one but I would need to shift a different Hirst edition before committing to purchasing one of these. Donโt spose anyone wants to buy a large rainbow do they?
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 17:45:10 GMT 1, . oops! Its just an individual embarassing themselves like any article or youtube clip that other members on a art forum (I mean you could not make it up) put on here to justify there ideology on race, like racism in all its forms is something new. Hey folks we've got a new way to tackle the problem of racism, lets call a lot of white people out as white privileged or white supremacist, We basically know what they alluding to right. I mean a Lot of black people agree that this is just wrong for a multitude of reasons and we know what they get called too, the left love a label its quite clear and to point fingers at people who they have know idea whats in there heart or mind. If you cant see that and you continue with this way of thinking you are only going one way... If white privilege didn't exist that mistake wouldn't have been made. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism.
If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.
. oops! Its just an individual embarassing themselves like any article or youtube clip that other members on a art forum (I mean you could not make it up) put on here to justify there ideology on race, like racism in all its forms is something new. Hey folks we've got a new way to tackle the problem of racism, lets call a lot of white people out as white privileged or white supremacist, We basically know what they alluding to right. I mean a Lot of black people agree that this is just wrong for a multitude of reasons and we know what they get called too, the left love a label its quite clear and to point fingers at people who they have know idea whats in there heart or mind. If you cant see that and you continue with this way of thinking you are only going one way... If white privilege didn't exist that mistake wouldn't have been made. The issue that you, the poster of the video, the pundit, and the Fox reporters missed is the assumption that white privilege is something that all white people are guilty of by default. No amount of effort will ever atone for it or have the label removed due to its definition. To say that a racial group are guilty of an inherent characteristic due to the color of their skin is the very definition of racism. If the left were to end their witch hunt, and present unfairness, racism and ineqaulity in society as racial injustice and discrimination instead of slandering an entire race, one that is in the throes of an ethnonationalist surge, evidenced by Trump's popularity, they could sway the opinions of many more people and make life better for millions.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 17:09:39 GMT 1, Haha, I should have been clearer! I see it as one of Banksy's best, and think it, and Nola, are undervalued. I think both should consistently be at ยฃ150,000+.
Haha, I should have been clearer! I see it as one of Banksy's best, and think it, and Nola, are undervalued. I think both should consistently be at ยฃ150,000+.
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 15:56:12 GMT 1, I see no material of Steve Bannon making white supremacist statements in said article, nor are their are accusations in it of Steve bannon being a white supremacist. Also lol@using a far left institution as a credible source. The article at the end says there isn't direct evidence of Steve Bannon being antisemitic. But trying to discredit the ADL by calling it a "far left institution" is just sad. The ADL and the SPLC have completely discredited themselves with the pursuits of Keith Ellison, Maajid Nawaz and many others. Neither of them represent the liberal societies they once worked for, same with the ACLU.
I see no material of Steve Bannon making white supremacist statements in said article, nor are their are accusations in it of Steve bannon being a white supremacist. Also lol@using a far left institution as a credible source. The article at the end says there isn't direct evidence of Steve Bannon being antisemitic. But trying to discredit the ADL by calling it a "far left institution" is just sad. The ADL and the SPLC have completely discredited themselves with the pursuits of Keith Ellison, Maajid Nawaz and many others. Neither of them represent the liberal societies they once worked for, same with the ACLU.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 15:46:19 GMT 1, Still waiting for Stop & Search to go up.
Still waiting for Stop & Search to go up.
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Feb 25, 2021 0:11:00 GMT 1, I love how you just avoided his reference to Drone King's legacy of collateral damage. He set a murderous precedent which Trump used to escalate America's extrajudicial murders. One point at a time here. Let's start with the statement of "overt lies". It'd be far more enlightening to understand why you blatantly dodged the subject of the muderous record of a Nobel Peace Prize lauret who single-handedly transformed modern warfare.
I love how you just avoided his reference to Drone King's legacy of collateral damage. He set a murderous precedent which Trump used to escalate America's extrajudicial murders. One point at a time here. Let's start with the statement of "overt lies". It'd be far more enlightening to understand why you blatantly dodged the subject of the muderous record of a Nobel Peace Prize lauret who single-handedly transformed modern warfare.
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