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New Jonas Wood - Four Landscapes, by Poster Bob on Mar 25, 2021 22:39:33 GMT 1, No, there is no need to sell them separately to make a profit. Sets of four of his work have previously sold for around $90,000; sometimes they're smaller, sometimes larger, sometimes better images. But on average, resellers will ask for around that figure once they're in hand.
There's plenty of profit to be had given the amounts his better prints fetch at auction. Could as long each print is signed, numbered and resold separately. Nina Chanel would only sign one print in her suites making it impossible to divide a set.
No, there is no need to sell them separately to make a profit. Sets of four of his work have previously sold for around $90,000; sometimes they're smaller, sometimes larger, sometimes better images. But on average, resellers will ask for around that figure once they're in hand. There's plenty of profit to be had given the amounts his better prints fetch at auction. Could as long each print is signed, numbered and resold separately. Nina Chanel would only sign one print in her suites making it impossible to divide a set.
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New Jonas Wood - Four Landscapes, by Poster Bob on Mar 25, 2021 22:16:41 GMT 1, There's plenty of profit to be had given the amounts his better prints fetch at auction.
There's plenty of profit to be had given the amounts his better prints fetch at auction.
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TateWard โข Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 24, 2021 15:11:36 GMT 1, What are everyoneโs thoughts on how the GDP items will do in this sale today just out of interest? I have noticed on Artsy that a few lots have early bids so we could be looking at some great results especially after that close to ยฃ17million sale less than 24 hours ago.... You can't compare the sale of an original work as a charity sale, with unquestionable provenance from a top-tier auction house to unathenticated (GDP) items sold by a fliy-by-night operation that willingly takes in fakes and discredits themselves to earn money on fees. Morever, the presence of an extreme outlier in the distribution of sales doesn't mean that the entire distribution is going to shift in that direction.
What are everyoneโs thoughts on how the GDP items will do in this sale today just out of interest? I have noticed on Artsy that a few lots have early bids so we could be looking at some great results especially after that close to ยฃ17million sale less than 24 hours ago.... You can't compare the sale of an original work as a charity sale, with unquestionable provenance from a top-tier auction house to unathenticated (GDP) items sold by a fliy-by-night operation that willingly takes in fakes and discredits themselves to earn money on fees. Morever, the presence of an extreme outlier in the distribution of sales doesn't mean that the entire distribution is going to shift in that direction.
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New Jonas Wood - Four Landscapes, by Poster Bob on Mar 23, 2021 13:16:07 GMT 1, I'd say that they both operate in a way that you'd expect from high-end galleries. That is, to prioritize your valued, existing clientele.
An edition of 35 isn't being sold at the gallery. It's already been allocated to their VIP list. Rule of thumb is you don't go to Pace to buy art, Pace comes to you to sell you art. Interesting how Pace and Pace Prints are separate companies but still operate in quite similar ways
I'd say that they both operate in a way that you'd expect from high-end galleries. That is, to prioritize your valued, existing clientele. An edition of 35 isn't being sold at the gallery. It's already been allocated to their VIP list. Rule of thumb is you don't go to Pace to buy art, Pace comes to you to sell you art. Interesting how Pace and Pace Prints are separate companies but still operate in quite similar ways
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Original One Off Stik Canvas - 3 characters on blue, by Poster Bob on Mar 20, 2021 1:52:24 GMT 1, Uh, sure.
I wouldn't. Stik's canvases are undervalued. His best prints fetch ยฃ40k. As a general rule I apply a multiplier of 10 to determine if a canvas is undervalued, and none of his works fetch anything close to that. What's the best alternative? Holding Stik canvases until they are overvalued? Might take some time when most are already realizing a hefty ROI since most of the canvases are still owned by the original owners who bought from source. The market is so strong on the prints in proportion because the market volume is so much higher, that's how you determine a multiplier.ย
Uh, sure. I wouldn't. Stik's canvases are undervalued. His best prints fetch ยฃ40k. As a general rule I apply a multiplier of 10 to determine if a canvas is undervalued, and none of his works fetch anything close to that. What's the best alternative? Holding Stik canvases until they are overvalued? Might take some time when most are already realizing a hefty ROI since most of the canvases are still owned by the original owners who bought from source. The market is so strong on the prints in proportion because the market volume is so much higher, that's how you determine a multiplier.ย
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Original One Off Stik Canvas - 3 characters on blue, by Poster Bob on Mar 19, 2021 23:37:52 GMT 1, I wouldn't. Stik's canvases are undervalued. His best prints fetch ยฃ40k. As a general rule I apply a multiplier of 10 to determine if a canvas is undervalued, and none of his works fetch anything close to that.
Seller has chosen to send to Christies, along with an Invader Rubik Cubism. It will be sold in their private sales initially with an auction after if it is unsold there. Any interest please query with Christies Thanks Should have the stik canvas go straight to auction.
I wouldn't. Stik's canvases are undervalued. His best prints fetch ยฃ40k. As a general rule I apply a multiplier of 10 to determine if a canvas is undervalued, and none of his works fetch anything close to that. Seller has chosen to send to Christies, along with an Invader Rubik Cubism. It will be sold in their private sales initially with an auction after if it is unsold there. Any interest please query with Christies Thanks Should have the stik canvas go straight to auction.
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Re sale rights need help , by Poster Bob on Mar 19, 2021 18:40:54 GMT 1, Tate Ward give zero fuc*s. Try them ๐
Tate Ward give zero fuc*s. Try them ๐
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Original One Off Stik Canvas - 3 characters on blue, by Poster Bob on Mar 19, 2021 15:12:30 GMT 1, It has happened to several people, all of whom posted here. What is most worrying is that, if I remember correctly, they were just requests for authentication, not attempts to resell. Are the instances of which you're speaking about documented on the internet?
If by "a few reports" you mean that multiple people on the forum, myself included, have posted that his team ask for pictures and then never respond, then yes. That is the case. Hadn't seen that so in addition to..
It has happened to several people, all of whom posted here. What is most worrying is that, if I remember correctly, they were just requests for authentication, not attempts to resell. Are the instances of which you're speaking about documented on the internet? If by "a few reports" you mean that multiple people on the forum, myself included, have posted that his team ask for pictures and then never respond, then yes. That is the case. Hadn't seen that so in addition to..
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Original One Off Stik Canvas - 3 characters on blue, by Poster Bob on Mar 19, 2021 15:07:46 GMT 1, If by "a few reports" you mean that multiple people on the forum, myself included, have posted that his team ask for pictures and then never respond, then yes. That is the case.
I've heard a few reports recently of Stik holding off confirming pieces as genuine which have solid provenance. Well worth checking what paperwork comes with pieces as it sounds like he's deliberately making it difficult for sellers.
If by "a few reports" you mean that multiple people on the forum, myself included, have posted that his team ask for pictures and then never respond, then yes. That is the case. I've heard a few reports recently of Stik holding off confirming pieces as genuine which have solid provenance. Well worth checking what paperwork comes with pieces as it sounds like he's deliberately making it difficult for sellers.
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Original One Off Stik Canvas - 3 characters on blue, by Poster Bob on Mar 19, 2021 0:06:02 GMT 1, Haha, it sounds like someone has received lots of low, "cash ready today!" offers.
Sorry guys, the seller asked me to remove but is happy again to get offers. The seller does not want his art photo up here, but serious buyers can be shown via email. The piece is 150x100cm landscape, blue background. The closest public piece is this upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/STIK_graffiti.jpg eyes are facing different ways but pretty much the same. Christies are very interested and based on their offers to buy/auction/private sale it, the price point is offers over 150k Based in the UK in Bucks. Please PM only if serious as anything under 150k and it will be a sure no, don't care how fast you can get the cash to me either ๐
Haha, it sounds like someone has received lots of low, "cash ready today!" offers. Sorry guys, the seller asked me to remove but is happy again to get offers. The seller does not want his art photo up here, but serious buyers can be shown via email. The piece is 150x100cm landscape, blue background. The closest public piece is this upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/STIK_graffiti.jpg eyes are facing different ways but pretty much the same. Christies are very interested and based on their offers to buy/auction/private sale it, the price point is offers over 150k Based in the UK in Bucks. Please PM only if serious as anything under 150k and it will be a sure no, don't care how fast you can get the cash to me either ๐
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Poster Bob on Mar 16, 2021 16:42:11 GMT 1, Happy to see a S&S at a top-tier auction house adter the large price increases. Hopefully it does well.
Happy to see a S&S at a top-tier auction house adter the large price increases. Hopefully it does well.
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Harland Miller - If The Phone Don't Ring, by Poster Bob on Mar 16, 2021 15:38:40 GMT 1, This will get entertaining
This will get entertaining
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Harland Miller - If The Phone Don't Ring, by Poster Bob on Mar 16, 2021 15:15:33 GMT 1, No burn intended. I only the other hand would have just said it was my auction to make dealers aware that it was available.
ยฃ24,000 hammer. (ยฃ30,240 w/fees) I hope that posting about the print brought the added the attention and increase in bids you were looking for.
No burn intended. I only the other hand would have just said it was my auction to make dealers aware that it was available. ยฃ24,000 hammer. (ยฃ30,240 w/fees) I hope that posting about the print brought the added the attention and increase in bids you were looking for.
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Harland Miller - If The Phone Don't Ring, by Poster Bob on Mar 16, 2021 14:50:35 GMT 1, ยฃ24,000 hammer. (ยฃ30,240 w/fees) I hope that posting about the print brought the added the attention and increase in bids you were looking for.
ยฃ24,000 hammer. (ยฃ30,240 w/fees) I hope that posting about the print brought the added the attention and increase in bids you were looking for.
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Harland Miller - If The Phone Don't Ring, by Poster Bob on Mar 16, 2021 1:19:25 GMT 1, I'm just generally confused why you'd bring attention to an obviously currently cheap print when you're thinking of bidding on it.
I'm just generally confused why you'd bring attention to an obviously currently cheap print when you're thinking of bidding on it.
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Harland Miller - If The Phone Don't Ring, by Poster Bob on Mar 16, 2021 0:43:04 GMT 1, You couldn't wait 14 hours to see what it would sell for?
You couldn't wait 14 hours to see what it would sell for?
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Sotheby's Art Auctions โข LONDON ๐ฌ๐ง, by Poster Bob on Mar 15, 2021 13:53:06 GMT 1, Estimate on the pink and gold Toxic Mary seems a bit high... It's still not a very popular image, and 44 isn't such a small edition. But, let's see! Toxic Mary AP is also damaged but repaired and has discolouration around the edges, which would definitely put me off, or am I being picky!! you are. these ideas come from novice collectors. once you've been along long enough you realize that nothing is ever really mint, and rare, old items may not be in the best shape. you don't have to deal with any such issues when you're selling a 40-year-old Warhol to someone more seasoned.
Estimate on the pink and gold Toxic Mary seems a bit high... It's still not a very popular image, and 44 isn't such a small edition. But, let's see! Toxic Mary AP is also damaged but repaired and has discolouration around the edges, which would definitely put me off, or am I being picky!! you are. these ideas come from novice collectors. once you've been along long enough you realize that nothing is ever really mint, and rare, old items may not be in the best shape. you don't have to deal with any such issues when you're selling a 40-year-old Warhol to someone more seasoned.
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Damien Hirst Print, Canvas, WANTED, by Poster Bob on Mar 14, 2021 2:42:09 GMT 1, Providence can be hard to find these days.
Looking to buy a Damien Hirst Woodcut Spot print... if you have anything available with full providence please contact me...UK based. Thankyou.
Providence can be hard to find these days. Looking to buy a Damien Hirst Woodcut Spot print... if you have anything available with full providence please contact me...UK based. Thankyou.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 14, 2021 2:06:33 GMT 1, I'll agree, it's totally bizarre that no one had these up on EBay already
I'll agree, it's totally bizarre that no one had these up on EBay already
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Mar 12, 2021 23:51:01 GMT 1, I cannot believe that he would use the antiquated, derogatory, and racist term minority instead of an appropriate and dignified term like BIPOC or marginalized. Cancel him. Immediately. Who hurt you? Sam Durant. He triggered me when he used the m-word trying to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.
I cannot believe that he would use the antiquated, derogatory, and racist term minority instead of an appropriate and dignified term like BIPOC or marginalized. Cancel him. Immediately. Who hurt you? Sam Durant. He triggered me when he used the m-word trying to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 12, 2021 23:49:02 GMT 1, There is a VERY strong opportunity to flip. But you will need to wait for a long time before these prints appreciate and if you were looking for short-term investment, there will be many more better opportunities presenting themselves this year, I'm sure. Itโs not a flip if you need to wait a long time...are you being sarcastic Banksy prints cannot be flipped because some of them they took forever to sell out at source...are you being sarcastic
There is a VERY strong opportunity to flip. But you will need to wait for a long time before these prints appreciate and if you were looking for short-term investment, there will be many more better opportunities presenting themselves this year, I'm sure. Itโs not a flip if you need to wait a long time...are you being sarcastic Banksy prints cannot be flipped because some of them they took forever to sell out at source...are you being sarcastic
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Poster Bob on Mar 12, 2021 23:46:47 GMT 1, I cannot believe that he would use the antiquated, derogatory, and racist term minority instead of an appropriate and dignified term like BIPOC or marginalized. Cancel him. Immediately.
I cannot believe that he would use the antiquated, derogatory, and racist term minority instead of an appropriate and dignified term like BIPOC or marginalized. Cancel him. Immediately.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 12, 2021 23:03:57 GMT 1, The blue background on Politeness really makes it stand out from the rest. Imagine hand signing over 7000 labels. Don't be naive, he'll have ways and means and it won't be coming from his pen or hand. I hummed and hawed over these for 7 days yet ultimately feel it's a busted flush. Glad I didn't pull the trigger. These are low quality and high volume on a third rate medium. That is a baseless statement. I am aware of no evidence that he does not since his own prints.
The blue background on Politeness really makes it stand out from the rest. Imagine hand signing over 7000 labels. Don't be naive, he'll have ways and means and it won't be coming from his pen or hand. I hummed and hawed over these for 7 days yet ultimately feel it's a busted flush. Glad I didn't pull the trigger. These are low quality and high volume on a third rate medium. That is a baseless statement. I am aware of no evidence that he does not since his own prints.
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Christie's Art Auctions , by Poster Bob on Mar 12, 2021 22:58:28 GMT 1, JFC these prices on the canvases are mental. I have been following him for years, but never bought anything because I was never offered a great image and was concerned about SJWs whining about the use of pornography in his work. Lo and behold Christie's trying to get woke has pushed his prices through the roof.
JFC these prices on the canvases are mental. I have been following him for years, but never bought anything because I was never offered a great image and was concerned about SJWs whining about the use of pornography in his work. Lo and behold Christie's trying to get woke has pushed his prices through the roof.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 12, 2021 22:05:20 GMT 1, As predicted. High edition numbers. Absolutely NO flip opportunities here. Congrats to all who copped and wanted to get on their wall. There is a VERY strong opportunity to flip. But you will need to wait for a long time before these prints appreciate and if you were looking for short-term investment, there will be many more better opportunities presenting themselves this year, I'm sure.
As predicted. High edition numbers. Absolutely NO flip opportunities here. Congrats to all who copped and wanted to get on their wall. There is a VERY strong opportunity to flip. But you will need to wait for a long time before these prints appreciate and if you were looking for short-term investment, there will be many more better opportunities presenting themselves this year, I'm sure.
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Damien Hirst H9 โข The Virtues, by Poster Bob on Mar 12, 2021 21:20:36 GMT 1, So roughly ยฃ16 million after tax, in sales. Even with costs and fees Not too bad a payday, You can't assume the percentage of tax they pay. I'm sure they go out of their way to make their tax bill as minimal as possible.
I can't believe people are discussing rarity in relation to their purchase. Image is key, not limitation. (Not related to your comment, of course, but I don't want to make a second post)
So roughly ยฃ16 million after tax, in sales. Even with costs and fees Not too bad a payday, You can't assume the percentage of tax they pay. I'm sure they go out of their way to make their tax bill as minimal as possible. I can't believe people are discussing rarity in relation to their purchase. Image is key, not limitation. (Not related to your comment, of course, but I don't want to make a second post)
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Damien Hirst H4 โข Veils, by Poster Bob on Mar 12, 2021 14:46:19 GMT 1, Awful result for the seller. Artnet achieved a hammer price of $20,000 for one last month. (Pretty sure about the price, someone with DB access can verify it) Could it be that large number of potential buyers opted for H9 for 3k rather than H4 for 20? It's probably due to the sale having been poorly advertised and the print being sold at a second-tier auction house. Forum is a good place for selling a Banksy in a Banksy-only auction, but I don't think any of the other prices they have achieved are noteworthy.
Awful result for the seller. Artnet achieved a hammer price of $20,000 for one last month. (Pretty sure about the price, someone with DB access can verify it) Could it be that large number of potential buyers opted for H9 for 3k rather than H4 for 20? It's probably due to the sale having been poorly advertised and the print being sold at a second-tier auction house. Forum is a good place for selling a Banksy in a Banksy-only auction, but I don't think any of the other prices they have achieved are noteworthy.
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Awful result for the seller. Artnet achieved a hammer price of $20,000 for one last month. (Pretty sure about the price, someone with DB access can verify it) Not great for the seller but that's still 11.39K plus shipping for the buyer. ย Not cheap.ย
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Harland Miller โข Who Cares Wins Print, by Poster Bob on Mar 11, 2021 11:26:45 GMT 1, bank transfer with no recourse, red flag, could end up being another Benny Jean Norris case Asking for payment by bank transfer for an item this expensive is not a red flag.
bank transfer with no recourse, red flag, could end up being another Benny Jean Norris case Asking for payment by bank transfer for an item this expensive is not a red flag.
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Stik at Christieโs , by Poster Bob on Mar 9, 2021 22:56:22 GMT 1, He has. They were available privately.
It seems odd when there was such a drive to return posters to homes in the area. Unless the only reason is to drive the price up, for said homes to have a gift of even higher value. Doubt it! Why hasn't he released a new edition? He'd love the hype and attention around that, and the ensuing 'christies are auctioning my latest bun fight print'.
He has. They were available privately. It seems odd when there was such a drive to return posters to homes in the area. Unless the only reason is to drive the price up, for said homes to have a gift of even higher value. Doubt it! Why hasn't he released a new edition? He'd love the hype and attention around that, and the ensuing 'christies are auctioning my latest bun fight print'.
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