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Damien Hirst NFT "The Currency", by Icesay on Aug 26, 2022 18:06:03 GMT 1, They're far from identical when you actually check the detail, I suppose they look similar to a leyman actually huge amount of differences in the detail.
They're far from identical when you actually check the detail, I suppose they look similar to a leyman actually huge amount of differences in the detail.
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Damien Hirst NFT "The Currency", by Icesay on Jul 27, 2022 19:08:32 GMT 1, I wasn't in on this one because it's way out of my league. But two things surprised me: That there wasn't movement in price (up or down) in the days leading up to the deadline. And, that there wasn't much going on in this thread. I'm inclined to agree, a bit of a damp squib if truth be told. Despite the bs rhetoric it's clear that NFTs , at this point, don't really work as art in their own right. A digital image just doesn't do it. As a project vaguely interesting but never really got going and the narrative of introducing art collectors to digital forms is interesting but the conclusion is that pixels of different coloured light is too intangible as an art form.
I wasn't in on this one because it's way out of my league. But two things surprised me: That there wasn't movement in price (up or down) in the days leading up to the deadline. And, that there wasn't much going on in this thread. I'm inclined to agree, a bit of a damp squib if truth be told. Despite the bs rhetoric it's clear that NFTs , at this point, don't really work as art in their own right. A digital image just doesn't do it. As a project vaguely interesting but never really got going and the narrative of introducing art collectors to digital forms is interesting but the conclusion is that pixels of different coloured light is too intangible as an art form.
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Damien Hirst NFT "The Currency", by Icesay on Jul 27, 2022 18:43:44 GMT 1, This must be great news for those who took the physical. An edition of Only 5000 or so physicals! Surprisingly small and long term a fabulous investment!
This must be great news for those who took the physical. An edition of Only 5000 or so physicals! Surprisingly small and long term a fabulous investment!
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Damien Hirst NFT "The Currency", by Icesay on Jul 23, 2022 19:27:57 GMT 1, Increasingly looking like a 50/50 split. If it is indeed an experiment, in the short term it looks as though the results are inconclusive. Perhaps that's the point of the whole thing, those in for a quick win or those playing the long game. Very much like the state of other financial markets. Money to be made either way. Does anyone actually think that their piece has a narrative other than how much the physical or nft, is or will be worth? Looking forward to seeing how this is represented going forward. Given the name of the performance the smart money must be keeping the nft? Thought?
Increasingly looking like a 50/50 split. If it is indeed an experiment, in the short term it looks as though the results are inconclusive. Perhaps that's the point of the whole thing, those in for a quick win or those playing the long game. Very much like the state of other financial markets. Money to be made either way. Does anyone actually think that their piece has a narrative other than how much the physical or nft, is or will be worth? Looking forward to seeing how this is represented going forward. Given the name of the performance the smart money must be keeping the nft? Thought?
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Damien Hirst NFT "The Currency", by Icesay on Jul 21, 2022 18:05:32 GMT 1, I don't suppose he really minds that much! So minted (pun Intended) that he can wait for years to see what happens NFTs and whether they are as volatile as crypto.
I don't suppose he really minds that much! So minted (pun Intended) that he can wait for years to see what happens NFTs and whether they are as volatile as crypto.
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Damien Hirst NFT "The Currency", by Icesay on Jul 19, 2022 20:11:49 GMT 1, The artworks are very similar but the titles are all different, this leads me to consider how we as individuals see ourselves. For me it raises questions of identity and our place in society, coupled with the existential question of money. Non fungible equates in my mind to what price can you place on anything....if money is a man- made measure then what is the true value of anything? Material vs immaterial. When your body returns to the earth and the pieces of paper are consumed by environmental degradation, what is left behind? A digital footprint? I just wonder if this is a digital legacy and will anyone care? In conclusion I'm keeping the NFT, not for monetary gain but to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
The artworks are very similar but the titles are all different, this leads me to consider how we as individuals see ourselves. For me it raises questions of identity and our place in society, coupled with the existential question of money. Non fungible equates in my mind to what price can you place on anything....if money is a man- made measure then what is the true value of anything? Material vs immaterial. When your body returns to the earth and the pieces of paper are consumed by environmental degradation, what is left behind? A digital footprint? I just wonder if this is a digital legacy and will anyone care? In conclusion I'm keeping the NFT, not for monetary gain but to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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Damien Hirst NFT "The Currency", by Icesay on Jul 15, 2022 18:50:51 GMT 1, Really struggling to decide what to do. Haven't got my head round NFT and it's place in the metaverse. I don't live in a virtual world so the physical is appealing but being an early adopter usually has its benefits! An original DH is appealing but its so small!
Really struggling to decide what to do. Haven't got my head round NFT and it's place in the metaverse. I don't live in a virtual world so the physical is appealing but being an early adopter usually has its benefits! An original DH is appealing but its so small!
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New (banksy) print!, by Icesay on May 16, 2022 19:37:40 GMT 1, Bit homo-erotic that Banksy image if you ask me.The rat looks like its cracking one off. Once again think Blek did it first with that rat with the enormous schlong!
Bit homo-erotic that Banksy image if you ask me.The rat looks like its cracking one off. Once again think Blek did it first with that rat with the enormous schlong!
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Daylight robbery - Clown / Stowe / Banksy, by Icesay on May 15, 2022 12:15:51 GMT 1, Isn't an ap printed so the artist can check it meets their standards? So who is the artist doing it for these? If its not Banksy then surely there cannot be ap's? Maybe pp's wouldn't ya think!
Isn't an ap printed so the artist can check it meets their standards? So who is the artist doing it for these? If its not Banksy then surely there cannot be ap's? Maybe pp's wouldn't ya think!
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Icesay on Apr 27, 2022 20:04:40 GMT 1, NFT world has not caught up yet though, I wonder why... I may be way off, but my guess is that traditional art collectors donโt understand nfts, and the nft market is akin to day trading stocks. Someone who buys this piece at an art auction treats it as art; someone who is flipping this on the nft market treats it as a commodity, wanting to move on to the next hyped up nft, with no concern about losing a little bit of money.
I think the important question is what does Hirst want to happen? Clearly interested in the future of nft's. I think I read he had 1000 of them? So presumably if the nft is worth less than the physical then the concept of the currency, is dead in the water. I don't buy the experiment bit because clearly art is physical and people's behaviour when a potential profit is possible, isn't art..... Its greed.
NFT world has not caught up yet though, I wonder why... I may be way off, but my guess is that traditional art collectors donโt understand nfts, and the nft market is akin to day trading stocks. Someone who buys this piece at an art auction treats it as art; someone who is flipping this on the nft market treats it as a commodity, wanting to move on to the next hyped up nft, with no concern about losing a little bit of money. I think the important question is what does Hirst want to happen? Clearly interested in the future of nft's. I think I read he had 1000 of them? So presumably if the nft is worth less than the physical then the concept of the currency, is dead in the water. I don't buy the experiment bit because clearly art is physical and people's behaviour when a potential profit is possible, isn't art..... Its greed.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Icesay on Apr 26, 2022 20:53:56 GMT 1, Theyโll place them at Phillips and elsewhere without issue. Not a problem. Those asking for refunds now when there is such a difference between the NFT price and the current results on EBay are short-sighted. I think this will be a bit of a mess. They canโt change the edition size now so lots of refunds will mean that that they have lots of these sitting around in a warehouse somewhere. I guess they will sell them on leviathon . They wonโt be under any pressure to sell them though so I guess they could restrict supply. Did anyone get an NFT refund? I think thatโs a different kettle of fish. Might have got their fingers burnt with this one.
Of course they are, that's why they bought the nft not the physical. There was no intent to buy but an intent to sell/trade the asset. Nft's don't really work for art and the digital assets are too visible for much monkey business.
Theyโll place them at Phillips and elsewhere without issue. Not a problem. Those asking for refunds now when there is such a difference between the NFT price and the current results on EBay are short-sighted. I think this will be a bit of a mess. They canโt change the edition size now so lots of refunds will mean that that they have lots of these sitting around in a warehouse somewhere. I guess they will sell them on leviathon . They wonโt be under any pressure to sell them though so I guess they could restrict supply. Did anyone get an NFT refund? I think thatโs a different kettle of fish. Might have got their fingers burnt with this one. Of course they are, that's why they bought the nft not the physical. There was no intent to buy but an intent to sell/trade the asset. Nft's don't really work for art and the digital assets are too visible for much monkey business.
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PichiAvo ๐ช๐ฆ Street Art โข New Print Release , by Icesay on Apr 23, 2022 10:18:47 GMT 1, It is a truly awful print.
It is a truly awful print.
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Jonas Wood โข Bonsai Print, by Icesay on Apr 20, 2022 19:03:52 GMT 1, Love Bonsai. Shame it's not a Maple though.
Love Bonsai. Shame it's not a Maple though.
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Whatson mini Heart cutoutโฆbuy or pass?, by Icesay on Apr 19, 2022 20:02:01 GMT 1, No bones about it these so not look good framed. Is there a meaning? I love MW? I actually like one or two MW's but these are really very poor IMO.
No bones about it these so not look good framed. Is there a meaning? I love MW? I actually like one or two MW's but these are really very poor IMO.
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Mehdi Ghadyanloo ๐ฎ๐ท Mural Painter โข Iran โข Art For Sale, by Icesay on Apr 18, 2022 20:11:17 GMT 1,
Very cool! It's all about the tension!
Very cool! It's all about the tension!
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Icesay on Apr 10, 2022 20:54:53 GMT 1, Perrotin about to blow the doors off!
How so? Seems like they think Oli can give them an in to other artists? Sounds like a load of fake hype for instartists. That's a phrase I've coined for proponents of tertiary and momentary art....a bit like balloon artists. That's artists that rise real quick and then go pop!...not in a good way. Must dash I'm cooking! Feel free to use the term/phrase 'Instartist' and 'Balloon Artists' freely...you heard it here first!
Perrotin about to blow the doors off! How so? Seems like they think Oli can give them an in to other artists? Sounds like a load of fake hype for instartists. That's a phrase I've coined for proponents of tertiary and momentary art....a bit like balloon artists. That's artists that rise real quick and then go pop!...not in a good way. Must dash I'm cooking! Feel free to use the term/phrase 'Instartist' and 'Balloon Artists' freely...you heard it here first!
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Jake & Chapman ๐ฌ๐ง Chapman Brothers โข Whitecube โข For Sale, by Icesay on Apr 4, 2022 19:43:03 GMT 1, I received a blank piece of paper
Turn it over!
I received a blank piece of paper Turn it over!
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Bast, by Icesay on Apr 3, 2022 21:22:39 GMT 1, If he'd died of illness or a tragic accident I think you'd have heard. Why drag it up. Respect.
If he'd died of illness or a tragic accident I think you'd have heard. Why drag it up. Respect.
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Idris Khan- I Thought We Had More Time..., by Icesay on Mar 30, 2022 20:08:23 GMT 1, I'm intrigued to know the score! Anyone?
I'm intrigued to know the score! Anyone?
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Robert โ3Dโ Del Naja - 2 Ltd Time Prints - fire-sale.store, by Icesay on Mar 29, 2022 18:54:01 GMT 1, think i might regret not buying one
Don't worry some assholes will put on ebay to make a profit....absolute cu*ts.
think i might regret not buying one Don't worry some assholes will put on ebay to make a profit....absolute cu*ts.
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Ted Patrick ๐ฌ๐ง Who is Ted Patrick? โข New Print Release , by Icesay on Mar 28, 2022 18:04:05 GMT 1, No-one thinks Ted Patrick has anything to do with team Banksy do they? If they do, well its their money! Good art speaks for itself and doesn't need to pretend to be anything it isn't. I don't mind admitting I've bought derivative things before and purely because I liked them. I wasn't under any illusion. People these days like the 80's....I was there, it was shite.
No-one thinks Ted Patrick has anything to do with team Banksy do they? If they do, well its their money! Good art speaks for itself and doesn't need to pretend to be anything it isn't. I don't mind admitting I've bought derivative things before and purely because I liked them. I wasn't under any illusion. People these days like the 80's....I was there, it was shite.
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David Shrigley - White Elephant + Paco Pomet - Internacional, by Icesay on Mar 21, 2022 19:50:56 GMT 1, Come on man, can get cheaper ebay!
Come on man, can get cheaper ebay!
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Looking To Buy: POW poster tube , by Icesay on Mar 16, 2022 21:44:41 GMT 1, Hi guys,ย I just bought a genuine Soup Can poster from an OG long standing UAA veteran who supplied original receipt and a note of provenance so im certain its 100% legit... The piece is already at the framers and I wont be selling for a loooong time, BUT ... if i ever do choose to sell, I would like as much provenance as poss because, as we all know, these posters can very easily be faked as they are simply lithoed on easily available stock...ย Getting to the point... I was just wondering if any of you POW veterans have any spare POW tubes which I could purchase off you to bolster the legitimacy of the piece.ย Any offers DM me please! Cheers in advance
This is a ridiculous question in every single way !
Hi guys,ย I just bought a genuine Soup Can poster from an OG long standing UAA veteran who supplied original receipt and a note of provenance so im certain its 100% legit... The piece is already at the framers and I wont be selling for a loooong time, BUT ... if i ever do choose to sell, I would like as much provenance as poss because, as we all know, these posters can very easily be faked as they are simply lithoed on easily available stock...ย Getting to the point... I was just wondering if any of you POW veterans have any spare POW tubes which I could purchase off you to bolster the legitimacy of the piece.ย Any offers DM me please! Cheers in advance This is a ridiculous question in every single way !
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Great art at great price by Yan Liu, by Icesay on Mar 16, 2022 17:46:42 GMT 1,
I can't work out if this is incredibly racist!?
I can't work out if this is incredibly racist!?
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PichiAvo ๐ช๐ฆ Street Art โข New Print Release , by Icesay on Mar 13, 2022 13:32:58 GMT 1, If you at least give a ball park figure, then you won't get as many lowballers and people trying to tell you what it's worth etc.
If you at least give a ball park figure, then you won't get as many lowballers and people trying to tell you what it's worth etc.
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WTS: Pejac H2O Print, by Icesay on Mar 10, 2022 20:41:38 GMT 1, Definitely not one of his best. I really like it !
Cool....respect that. Just doesn't stand up to Seppuku or Meadow or Scattercrow or even to A Forest to my eye. They're classics. The latest circular one, I forget the name is OK. The Whale one though....he'll no!
Definitely not one of his best. I really like it ! Cool....respect that. Just doesn't stand up to Seppuku or Meadow or Scattercrow or even to A Forest to my eye. They're classics. The latest circular one, I forget the name is OK. The Whale one though....he'll no!
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WTS: Pejac H2O Print, by Icesay on Mar 10, 2022 19:40:02 GMT 1, Definitely not one of his best.
Definitely not one of his best.
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Thierry Noir ๐จ๐ต Berlin Wall โข French Street Arist , by Icesay on Mar 9, 2022 20:02:09 GMT 1, One on ebay for ยฃ3350, looking like a bargain. That'll get snapped up now.
It has been!
One on ebay for ยฃ3350, looking like a bargain. That'll get snapped up now. It has been!
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Icesay on Mar 9, 2022 17:28:23 GMT 1, Hi all I have a mint condition Oli Epp Pride print available for sale. Happy to send images to genuinely interested parties. I'm looking for around ยฃ1500. Happy to answer questions via pm. Print is still in protective wrapping, never been framed and mint condition, stored flat. Images can be found easily by Google if you are unfamiliar with print.
Hi all I have a mint condition Oli Epp Pride print available for sale. Happy to send images to genuinely interested parties. I'm looking for around ยฃ1500. Happy to answer questions via pm. Print is still in protective wrapping, never been framed and mint condition, stored flat. Images can be found easily by Google if you are unfamiliar with print.
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Art as an investment , by Icesay on Mar 7, 2022 23:30:25 GMT 1, Itโs like with any profession. In sports they say it takes 10 000 hours of training to become top tier. Art is very much the same. Just donโt read 10 000 hours of UAA
That only only applies to those with no natural talent.
Itโs like with any profession. In sports they say it takes 10 000 hours of training to become top tier. Art is very much the same. Just donโt read 10 000 hours of UAA That only only applies to those with no natural talent.
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