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Framed prints-devalued?, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 29, 2011 1:16:25 GMT 1, You're only thinking about street art.
I can tell you that historically people would pay more money for a print that have never been framed than a print that has been framed.
Same thing goes to condition. The more valuable a fine art print is the less small defects would impact its price. Condition basis shipped with age (logically). People will pay huge premium for a mint condition Picasso (small folds, stains, creases are acceptable).
If you would see the price some prints reach in a really poor condition you would be shocked.
A fine example that makes me laugh is the result of an amazing linocut by Picasso : Buste de Femme d'après Cranach le Jeune. An awful copy still sold for £100K a month ago at Sotheby's in London (good condition usually go around £250K)
Here is the condition report :
The full sheet, the colours strong, repaired tears in upper right of image extending from black area into the white area by the right shoulder (approx. 24cm), the black touched up, a repaired hole in the blue area (diameter approx. 1.5cm), a diagonal repaired tear extending upper left of image into black by left shoulder (approx. 25cm), the black touched up, a band of pale mount-staining across lower edge of sheet, a diagonal broken crease at lower left corner of sheet (approx. 12cm), sheet backed with another sheet of wove paper, leaving dedication visible, unframed, recommend viewing before bidding.
To come back to the original discussion. Art is still meant to be framed and hopefully conservation techniques have been made available at "low" costs these days for people to frame their print "safely" (not sure if anything is 100% safe though).
As rperry said, framing can cause some non reparable damages in the long run (and I'm not talking 5 years here)!
You're only thinking about street art.
I can tell you that historically people would pay more money for a print that have never been framed than a print that has been framed.
Same thing goes to condition. The more valuable a fine art print is the less small defects would impact its price. Condition basis shipped with age (logically). People will pay huge premium for a mint condition Picasso (small folds, stains, creases are acceptable).
If you would see the price some prints reach in a really poor condition you would be shocked.
A fine example that makes me laugh is the result of an amazing linocut by Picasso : Buste de Femme d'après Cranach le Jeune. An awful copy still sold for £100K a month ago at Sotheby's in London (good condition usually go around £250K)
Here is the condition report :
The full sheet, the colours strong, repaired tears in upper right of image extending from black area into the white area by the right shoulder (approx. 24cm), the black touched up, a repaired hole in the blue area (diameter approx. 1.5cm), a diagonal repaired tear extending upper left of image into black by left shoulder (approx. 25cm), the black touched up, a band of pale mount-staining across lower edge of sheet, a diagonal broken crease at lower left corner of sheet (approx. 12cm), sheet backed with another sheet of wove paper, leaving dedication visible, unframed, recommend viewing before bidding.
To come back to the original discussion. Art is still meant to be framed and hopefully conservation techniques have been made available at "low" costs these days for people to frame their print "safely" (not sure if anything is 100% safe though).
As rperry said, framing can cause some non reparable damages in the long run (and I'm not talking 5 years here)!
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Your latest Art Purchase?, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 28, 2011 15:36:44 GMT 1, You should check with Ed bartlett (edcase) at future tense. they are representing her as well.
Got this back from the framer yesterday :
You should check with Ed bartlett (edcase) at future tense. they are representing her as well. Got this back from the framer yesterday :
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Testing waters : Charity Sale : Warhol KIKU, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 28, 2011 15:21:21 GMT 1, 1 copy left after someone backed out. If anyone is interested let me know. Comes with a COA from the printer.
1 copy left after someone backed out. If anyone is interested let me know. Comes with a COA from the printer.
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Zevs 🇨🇵 Liquidated Trademarks • Logo Street Art , by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 28, 2011 15:17:21 GMT 1, No Chanel for sale and I've been trying badly.
2 editions : art statements Ed of 100 & LAZ Ed of 50 (50 x 70 cm)
No Chanel for sale and I've been trying badly.
2 editions : art statements Ed of 100 & LAZ Ed of 50 (50 x 70 cm)
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Done thanks for the help!, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 28, 2011 15:03:50 GMT 1, Qiaozhen is pronounced Ying Jian or Yin jian so you were not that far off boaty lol
Qiaozhen is pronounced Ying Jian or Yin jian so you were not that far off boaty lol
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Done thanks for the help!, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 28, 2011 14:52:16 GMT 1, Got it : Looks like it's Shi Qiaozhen. It was a name so I didn't really think it was appropriate to translate it in English!
Cheers for the help guys!
Got it : Looks like it's Shi Qiaozhen. It was a name so I didn't really think it was appropriate to translate it in English!
Cheers for the help guys!
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Done thanks for the help!, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 28, 2011 14:46:10 GMT 1, Hey guys,
I need to send something to China. I have the Chinese name written in Chinese. Fedex wants me to write the name with roman letters.
So if anyone coud tell me what would this be in roman letters I'll be grateful!
师 英建
Hey guys,
I need to send something to China. I have the Chinese name written in Chinese. Fedex wants me to write the name with roman letters.
So if anyone coud tell me what would this be in roman letters I'll be grateful!
师 英建
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Cartrain 🇬🇧 Tate Gallery • Damien Hirst • Gilbert & George, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 28, 2011 10:59:13 GMT 1, TO answer to johnnyH, I don't care if I buy an edition canvas if it's number 1 or 5, they supposed to be exactly the same (quality speaking) So unless you're a fetichist for numbers, it won't impact the price that it's number 1 or number 5.
Ali is a nice guy. Don't get the whole agent thing? Can't he just be an helping friend for Cartrain?
Does he change anything for us if he is or not in the end?
You should refund him if the guy send back everything (canvas + all the freebies). Even I understand everyones position.
TO answer to johnnyH, I don't care if I buy an edition canvas if it's number 1 or 5, they supposed to be exactly the same (quality speaking) So unless you're a fetichist for numbers, it won't impact the price that it's number 1 or number 5.
Ali is a nice guy. Don't get the whole agent thing? Can't he just be an helping friend for Cartrain?
Does he change anything for us if he is or not in the end?
You should refund him if the guy send back everything (canvas + all the freebies). Even I understand everyones position.
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Andy Warhol 🇺🇸 Real or Fake? • Sunday B. Morning Print, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 28, 2011 10:40:37 GMT 1, Warhol did plenty of prints. If you want one of the iconic print like a Tomato Soup Can, Marilyn, MAO, James Dean... you'll probably have to spend some money on that.
However if you just want a signed warhol print. There are plenty of them and you can find some cheap ones for less than 4K. Community 2000, a Kiku, one of the love series, an electric chair, ladies & gentlemen, the UN stamp.......
Warhol did plenty of prints. If you want one of the iconic print like a Tomato Soup Can, Marilyn, MAO, James Dean... you'll probably have to spend some money on that.
However if you just want a signed warhol print. There are plenty of them and you can find some cheap ones for less than 4K. Community 2000, a Kiku, one of the love series, an electric chair, ladies & gentlemen, the UN stamp.......
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Zevs 🇨🇵 Liquidated Trademarks • Logo Street Art , by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 27, 2011 15:51:53 GMT 1, And up to my knowledge they don't have any print either! So no luck sasha? Btw it's weird that the LV print page completely disappeared from the LAZ website like he never existed Straight to the archive Z www.theoutsiders.net/archive/3Like the chair looks comfy. Zevz attitude comes across really well in one of the graf documentaries (I think inside outside with Espo Futura etc) whether its consumer logos or when he kidnapped the model from a billboard (and held it for ransom).
galeriezeitgeist.com/shop-boutique/editions/
6000 euros for the chair if you're interested lol
To anyone who watched part of the visual kidnapping dvd, Zevs is a quite scary character (you can check it out on his website). But he's a well underated artist. Also liked his electric shadow work. Check out your outsiders book (if you still have it lol). I think he was working on that in Exit
And up to my knowledge they don't have any print either! So no luck sasha? Btw it's weird that the LV print page completely disappeared from the LAZ website like he never existed Straight to the archive Z www.theoutsiders.net/archive/3Like the chair looks comfy. Zevz attitude comes across really well in one of the graf documentaries (I think inside outside with Espo Futura etc) whether its consumer logos or when he kidnapped the model from a billboard (and held it for ransom). galeriezeitgeist.com/shop-boutique/editions/6000 euros for the chair if you're interested lol To anyone who watched part of the visual kidnapping dvd, Zevs is a quite scary character (you can check it out on his website). But he's a well underated artist. Also liked his electric shadow work. Check out your outsiders book (if you still have it lol). I think he was working on that in Exit
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Zevs 🇨🇵 Liquidated Trademarks • Logo Street Art , by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 27, 2011 13:57:39 GMT 1, I would also like a chanel or lv print if anybody has one. I got an email from the Japanese gallery about the canvasses they have and I am in love with the murakami ones. shame they are in more than 6-10k euros.
And up to my knowledge they don't have any print either!
So no luck sasha?
Btw it's weird that the LV print page completely disappeared from the LAZ website like he never existed
I would also like a chanel or lv print if anybody has one. I got an email from the Japanese gallery about the canvasses they have and I am in love with the murakami ones. shame they are in more than 6-10k euros. And up to my knowledge they don't have any print either! So no luck sasha? Btw it's weird that the LV print page completely disappeared from the LAZ website like he never existed
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Zevs 🇨🇵 Liquidated Trademarks • Logo Street Art , by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 27, 2011 13:49:15 GMT 1, Anyone having a coca cola/Chanel print (not canvas) , PM me.. Trying to enlarge the circle.
I want to thank LAZ for the release. Don't know if they came across my recent thread but it's great timing!
I would have thought hammer would have been gone fast as well. Political statement is stronger than with the LV.
Anyone fancying a beer print. Calsberg liquidated logo is still available at cost from source (in Danemark) if anyone interesting.
Came across this today while researching a chanel print lol
Great chair :
Anyone having a coca cola/Chanel print (not canvas) , PM me.. Trying to enlarge the circle. I want to thank LAZ for the release. Don't know if they came across my recent thread but it's great timing! I would have thought hammer would have been gone fast as well. Political statement is stronger than with the LV. Anyone fancying a beer print. Calsberg liquidated logo is still available at cost from source (in Danemark) if anyone interesting. Came across this today while researching a chanel print lol Great chair :
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Zevs 🇨🇵 Liquidated Trademarks • Logo Street Art , by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 27, 2011 12:27:35 GMT 1, Maybe a nice forum member has one in his cart & is wondering wether to go ahead or not?
Maybe a nice forum member has one in his cart & is wondering wether to go ahead or not?
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Zevs 🇨🇵 Liquidated Trademarks • Logo Street Art , by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 27, 2011 12:06:51 GMT 1, Same as stopki!
Same as stopki!
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For Sale & Now on eBay: JR, DOC, Beejoir, Francis, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 27, 2011 11:28:52 GMT 1, Did you find a way to go around the shipping limitations on ebay H?
Beejoir & Doc going cheap so far..
Did you find a way to go around the shipping limitations on ebay H?
Beejoir & Doc going cheap so far..
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VIDEO OF THE DAY..., by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 27, 2011 9:54:16 GMT 1, It's quite old but just spot it. This guy is just amazing! Never heard someone that sounds just like Michael Jackson!
It's quite old but just spot it. This guy is just amazing! Never heard someone that sounds just like Michael Jackson!
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Andy Warhol 🇺🇸 Real or Fake? • Sunday B. Morning Print, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 27, 2011 2:23:21 GMT 1, If you're talking not sunday B morning. Do you mean you're looking at buying a marilyn? Then you won't find anything for less than £40K
If you're talking not sunday B morning. Do you mean you're looking at buying a marilyn? Then you won't find anything for less than £40K
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Zevs 🇨🇵 Liquidated Trademarks • Logo Street Art , by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 27, 2011 1:45:33 GMT 1, finally!!!!!!!!! My prayers were answered!
Now I have to bag one of those lol
finally!!!!!!!!! My prayers were answered! Now I have to bag one of those lol
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2 x Matt Small originals for sale, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 26, 2011 13:46:54 GMT 1, there are the ones that went unsold at Dreweatts
there are the ones that went unsold at Dreweatts
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FS Animal print, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 25, 2011 21:49:18 GMT 1, Click on your link sacked but copy the write url (url change) and put it inbetween the youtube brackets :
The right url :
Click on your link sacked but copy the write url (url change) and put it inbetween the youtube brackets :
The right url :
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FS Animal print, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 25, 2011 20:57:31 GMT 1, ON sacked behalf :
ON sacked behalf :
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Price check on a unsigned Banksy, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 24, 2011 3:17:07 GMT 1, more like £600 - £750 than the price quoted before but that's just my opinion.
Anyone quoting EB would see that there were print sold by urbanartgallery1 (who's pumping his listing).
more like £600 - £750 than the price quoted before but that's just my opinion.
Anyone quoting EB would see that there were print sold by urbanartgallery1 (who's pumping his listing).
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Banksy Christ With Shopping Bags, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 23, 2011 23:20:37 GMT 1, Estimate you gave sounds about right. Will depend if the owner wants a quick sell or not...
Estimate you gave sounds about right. Will depend if the owner wants a quick sell or not...
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Banksy Christ With Shopping Bags, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 22, 2011 20:20:01 GMT 1, Sold one a couple months ago but what JP says (can't really give the exact number by respect to the buyer)
But I guess it's more opportunistic as not to many come up for sale. I guess most of them are in hand of serious collector or galleries now. A few galleries in the UK have some. Check with Andipa, I know they have some!
Sold one a couple months ago but what JP says (can't really give the exact number by respect to the buyer)
But I guess it's more opportunistic as not to many come up for sale. I guess most of them are in hand of serious collector or galleries now. A few galleries in the UK have some. Check with Andipa, I know they have some!
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Last try : Nick Walker OG Best offer by Friday, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 22, 2011 17:14:15 GMT 1, maybe if you specified the artist and what you are selling in your title, you'd get better luck? listing your phone number here would help as well ? ? ? ?
On Francis behalf, I didn't put the artist in the title. But I won't put my phone number on internet (no point anyway as I'm not in the UK)
maybe if you specified the artist and what you are selling in your title, you'd get better luck? listing your phone number here would help as well ? ? ? ? On Francis behalf, I didn't put the artist in the title. But I won't put my phone number on internet (no point anyway as I'm not in the UK)
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Last try : Nick Walker OG Best offer by Friday, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 22, 2011 17:03:19 GMT 1, @ sixpac : Did you actually run the count? lol
More like 3 times (on my part) to be honest. 1 time as a buy it now and 2 times through auction. Buy it now being aborted after a first offer that didn't come through & led to the 1st auction (send to auction button) . 1st auction was stopped before the end because I got an offer but never came through.
It was listed at a $3K start (about £1.8K). A buyer sent me a message offering $2,5K (about £1.5K). (for the questions on the via ebay part).
But it has been on ebay before I bought it so don't know if you're entering it into your count.
I have a Jago that is lying in my room who is only waiting to fill this spot!
By the way, if I don't get a better offer by tomorrow morning, I'll sell at this price!
@ sixpac : Did you actually run the count? lol
More like 3 times (on my part) to be honest. 1 time as a buy it now and 2 times through auction. Buy it now being aborted after a first offer that didn't come through & led to the 1st auction (send to auction button) . 1st auction was stopped before the end because I got an offer but never came through.
It was listed at a $3K start (about £1.8K). A buyer sent me a message offering $2,5K (about £1.5K). (for the questions on the via ebay part).
But it has been on ebay before I bought it so don't know if you're entering it into your count.
I have a Jago that is lying in my room who is only waiting to fill this spot!
By the way, if I don't get a better offer by tomorrow morning, I'll sell at this price!
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Does anybody know the Artist EMO ?, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 22, 2011 12:42:58 GMT 1, this part was quite funny :
RESENT UPDATE!
THE ARTIST EMO HIT BRISTOL TELEVISION NEWS RECENTLY November 2010 as becoming the next huge success.
- Febuary 2011 Artist hit the GUGGENHEIM MUSEUM - NEW YORK - UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
this part was quite funny :
RESENT UPDATE!
THE ARTIST EMO HIT BRISTOL TELEVISION NEWS RECENTLY November 2010 as becoming the next huge success.
- Febuary 2011 Artist hit the GUGGENHEIM MUSEUM - NEW YORK - UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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Does anybody know the Artist EMO ?, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 22, 2011 10:31:43 GMT 1, It's all that I could find as well lol
It's all that I could find as well lol
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Kaws • Sponge Bob KawsBob Set, Yellow, Black, Red, by Brushstrokes 75 on Apr 22, 2011 1:56:40 GMT 1, The more time passed the more prices dropped. Looks bad for you arty. There's now ebay listing at $1700 buy it now (doesn't bring that much cash in).
The more time passed the more prices dropped. Looks bad for you arty. There's now ebay listing at $1700 buy it now (doesn't bring that much cash in).
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