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Margaret Thatcher Art, by iamzero on Apr 8, 2013 21:48:12 GMT 1, The lack of council housing was never address after selling all the ones off under her time. Why didn't labour build more instead of trying to integrate them with tax payers that bought £200,000 houses and had to live with lost cost housing right next door?
I can also name at least three red flag waving council tenants that bought their council houses, sold them for a tidy capitalist profit and went on to piss it up the wall and reapply for council houses again. We all live in the same country but some of see different sides of it first hand.
The lack of council housing was never address after selling all the ones off under her time. Why didn't labour build more instead of trying to integrate them with tax payers that bought £200,000 houses and had to live with lost cost housing right next door?
I can also name at least three red flag waving council tenants that bought their council houses, sold them for a tidy capitalist profit and went on to piss it up the wall and reapply for council houses again. We all live in the same country but some of see different sides of it first hand.
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by iamzero on Apr 8, 2013 21:56:12 GMT 1, Agreed jonnyx, successive governments are quick to point out the failings of the opposition and then getting into power and realising its alot harder to change some things and continue to do nothing about them.
Moaning about the privatisation of things. The rail should never have been sold off but the next government did nothing to help put that right and suggested selling The Royal Mail.
Agreed jonnyx, successive governments are quick to point out the failings of the opposition and then getting into power and realising its alot harder to change some things and continue to do nothing about them.
Moaning about the privatisation of things. The rail should never have been sold off but the next government did nothing to help put that right and suggested selling The Royal Mail.
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by jonnyx on Apr 8, 2013 21:58:53 GMT 1, The lack of council housing was never address after selling all the ones off under her time. Why didn't labour build more instead of trying to integrate them with tax payers that bought £200,000 houses and had to live with lost cost housing right next door? I can also name at least three red flag waving council tenants that bought their council houses, sold them for a tidy capitalist profit and went on to piss it up the wall and reapply for council houses again. We all live in the same country but some of see different sides of it first hand.
The lack of council housing was never address after selling all the ones off under her time. Why didn't labour build more instead of trying to integrate them with tax payers that bought £200,000 houses and had to live with lost cost housing right next door? I can also name at least three red flag waving council tenants that bought their council houses, sold them for a tidy capitalist profit and went on to piss it up the wall and reapply for council houses again. We all live in the same country but some of see different sides of it first hand. i don't know anything about you iamzero, and i really don't want to patronise you, but, you seem to have a particularly naive view of socialism/ red flags/ and the labour party. post-thatcher and particularly post- 1997 the link between the labour party and socialism is, like your username, zero. the first term of the new labour government did a lot of things, but there was no way there was ever going to be a rebuilding of council houses - the desire was no longer there- the political discourse had changed (maybe forever) - truly a legacy of thatcherism. |
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by mmmike on Apr 8, 2013 22:11:03 GMT 1, Another nail hit head. Perfect. Although I could be wrong of course and I apologise to all those art collectors on here with socialist ideologies that give the profit made from their art sales directly to charities and the welfare system.
I do think I am hypocritical in many of my actions and am working to do better but none of us are Gandhi. I think we should just try to do a bit better each day.
At least I can get comfort knowing I'm not as big a hypocrite as Thatcher and the rest of the right wing nuts.
Another nail hit head. Perfect. Although I could be wrong of course and I apologise to all those art collectors on here with socialist ideologies that give the profit made from their art sales directly to charities and the welfare system. I think it is great to look in the mirror and try to resolve some of the inconsistencies in our own values. We all have them. At the same time the comment aimed at socialists is a crap argument. We live in a messed up corporate welfare world, a system that most incorrectly label as capitalism. In reality it is far from it. Just because you believe there should be a change does not mean you can't participate in the society / economy that we have today. Socialism by definition isn't something you can do by yourself. The power comes from larger participation. Sure we can and should all give all your money to charities for example, but the real power comes doing it as a collective rather than just actions of few good people. I do think I am hypocritical in many of my actions and am working to do better but none of us are Gandhi. I think we should just try to do a bit better each day. At least I can get comfort knowing I'm not as big a hypocrite as Thatcher and the rest of the right wing nuts. |
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by .dappy on Apr 8, 2013 22:33:46 GMT 1,
She decimated towns and other communities with her policies, but on the other hand ... What have the Romans ever done for us?
She decimated towns and other communities with her policies, but on the other hand ... What have the Romans ever done for us?
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Apr 8, 2013 22:38:16 GMT 1, I was brought up to hate her like most kids in Wales, didnt know why and too young for politics, just gets handed down from parents. I was young but loved her on spitting image, she was so tough she had cock and balls!! Their sketch off her pissing with pope in a urinal, never forget those.. Do people on here seriously own thatcher art?
I was brought up to hate her like most kids in Wales, didnt know why and too young for politics, just gets handed down from parents. I was young but loved her on spitting image, she was so tough she had cock and balls!! Their sketch off her pissing with pope in a urinal, never forget those.. Do people on here seriously own thatcher art?
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by iamzero on Apr 8, 2013 22:43:36 GMT 1, Not patronising at all dude. Good that we can actually have discussions on here without it degenerating into a slagging match.
Not patronising at all dude. Good that we can actually have discussions on here without it degenerating into a slagging match.
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by aj2010 on Apr 8, 2013 22:49:55 GMT 1, Thatcher was a despicable excuse for a human being and if there was any justice in this world she would have died an early and horrible death.
Thatcher was a despicable excuse for a human being and if there was any justice in this world she would have died an early and horrible death.
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by Hubble Bubble on Apr 8, 2013 23:02:59 GMT 1, aj
I've been interested to read the outpouring of vitriol on the forum on this topic. Without in any way making any statement other than I would never celebrate the death of someone when their family is still grieving, might I ask your age?
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I've been interested to read the outpouring of vitriol on the forum on this topic. Without in any way making any statement other than I would never celebrate the death of someone when their family is still grieving, might I ask your age?
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by teatwosugars on Apr 8, 2013 23:25:38 GMT 1, Bloody hell. Don't hold back aj. Tell us what you really think.
For me, I will never understand how anyone can see past the pain and suffering she caused. I completely agree with Pez, Jonny, Sean etc and fail to see how there can be any positives to her time in office. I am neither pleased nor saddened by her death. The damage was done a long time ago. Today changes nothing.
I believe the original question of this thread was whether any Thatcher art had been created. It reminded me of this paste up on the road behind the old POW offices. I must emphasise that this photo was taken around 07/08 and not today. I don't think it's particularly well executed but I thought the sentiments were interesting.
Bloody hell. Don't hold back aj. Tell us what you really think. For me, I will never understand how anyone can see past the pain and suffering she caused. I completely agree with Pez, Jonny, Sean etc and fail to see how there can be any positives to her time in office. I am neither pleased nor saddened by her death. The damage was done a long time ago. Today changes nothing. I believe the original question of this thread was whether any Thatcher art had been created. It reminded me of this paste up on the road behind the old POW offices. I must emphasise that this photo was taken around 07/08 and not today. I don't think it's particularly well executed but I thought the sentiments were interesting. |
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by bomber88 on Apr 9, 2013 0:04:04 GMT 1, Classic CRASS / Gee Vaucher and so wonderfully tasteless
Classic CRASS / Gee Vaucher and so wonderfully tasteless |
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by elwheel on Apr 9, 2013 0:18:59 GMT 1, 
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by elwheel on Apr 9, 2013 0:23:46 GMT 1, Parties up and down the Falls road, free drink in Ardoyne Clubs.
Parties up and down the Falls road, free drink in Ardoyne Clubs.
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by rottenredrooster on Apr 9, 2013 1:49:31 GMT 1, Thatcher was a despicable excuse for a human being and if there was any justice in this world she would have died an early and horrible death.
Aye.
Her son needs to go to.
Thatcher was a despicable excuse for a human being and if there was any justice in this world she would have died an early and horrible death. Aye. Her son needs to go to. |
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Apr 9, 2013 8:47:13 GMT 1, I bet banksy and his elves have been thinking hard of what thatcher piece to put out there?
I bet banksy and his elves have been thinking hard of what thatcher piece to put out there?
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by freakinstyle on Apr 9, 2013 8:47:55 GMT 1, There must be loads more! Seems there was a lot of thatcher bashing etc. going on in cabaret/jokes/music etc. She seems to be the main figure to use for such things. Saw a puppet program or something where she was having dinner with her cabinet when a waitress asked her how she wanted to have her steak. Hilarious!
Doesn't somebody have old fashioned photos of graffiti of it? Can imagine it wasn't popular as it is now, so nobody might not have collected photos?!
There must be loads more! Seems there was a lot of thatcher bashing etc. going on in cabaret/jokes/music etc. She seems to be the main figure to use for such things. Saw a puppet program or something where she was having dinner with her cabinet when a waitress asked her how she wanted to have her steak. Hilarious!
Doesn't somebody have old fashioned photos of graffiti of it? Can imagine it wasn't popular as it is now, so nobody might not have collected photos?!
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by tartarus on Apr 9, 2013 10:23:55 GMT 1, I think the media are mounting a close to the bone campaign of words on her.
AOL's offering (sorry for the pic, iphone pic of a computer screen!)
Perpetrator of disaster as she was!
I think the media are mounting a close to the bone campaign of words on her. AOL's offering (sorry for the pic, iphone pic of a computer screen!) Perpetrator of disaster as she was! |
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by Lizz Brady on Apr 9, 2013 10:32:03 GMT 1, I don't know how you can say people who hate thatcher havent got an ounce of intelligence. Unless you're a fucking Tory.
I don't know how you can say people who hate thatcher havent got an ounce of intelligence. Unless you're a fucking Tory.
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by barryh on Apr 9, 2013 10:40:23 GMT 1, I don't know how you can say people who hate thatcher havent got an ounce of intelligence. Unless you're a f**king Tory.
this
I don't know how you can say people who hate thatcher havent got an ounce of intelligence. Unless you're a f**king Tory. this |
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by elvisreturns on Apr 9, 2013 10:52:20 GMT 1, I don't know how you can say people who hate thatcher havent got an ounce of intelligence. Unless you're a f**king Tory.
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by seagull on Apr 9, 2013 10:55:00 GMT 1,
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by Hubble Bubble on Apr 9, 2013 11:12:15 GMT 1, I'm not sure how one equates having an opinion about something with being unintelligent, whichever side of the political divide you sit on. One can be, as Lizz so ungallantly phrases it, "a f**king Tory" or one can be, to counter-paraphrase, a "stupid Labour t**t" (not my opinion) - but surely we're all grown up enough to acknowledge that those with different political ideologies to our own often have the intellectual chops to back up their beliefs. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that it's those that seek to reduce discussion of politics, religion and, most importantly, football  down to a simple hatred of an opposing belief and a cursory description of those that hold it as somehow intellectually inferior that display the true lack of intelligence.
Anyway, just sayin' ... let the bile fest recommence. It makes for interesting reading and you learn a huge amount about forumites on these occasions.
I'm not sure how one equates having an opinion about something with being unintelligent, whichever side of the political divide you sit on. One can be, as Lizz so ungallantly phrases it, "a f**king Tory" or one can be, to counter-paraphrase, a "stupid Labour t**t" (not my opinion) - but surely we're all grown up enough to acknowledge that those with different political ideologies to our own often have the intellectual chops to back up their beliefs. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that it's those that seek to reduce discussion of politics, religion and, most importantly, football down to a simple hatred of an opposing belief and a cursory description of those that hold it as somehow intellectually inferior that display the true lack of intelligence. Anyway, just sayin' ... let the bile fest recommence. It makes for interesting reading and you learn a huge amount about forumites on these occasions. |
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by aj2010 on Apr 9, 2013 13:16:51 GMT 1, Old enough to have experienced the damage and devastation she brought to the working class of this country.
Old enough to have experienced the damage and devastation she brought to the working class of this country.
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by rockhopper on Apr 9, 2013 13:47:22 GMT 1, Thatchers support of the likes of Eddy Shah and Rupert Murdoch contributed to the decline of the printing industry in this country, something that print has never recovered from
Thatchers support of the likes of Eddy Shah and Rupert Murdoch contributed to the decline of the printing industry in this country, something that print has never recovered from
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by Daniel Silk on Apr 9, 2013 14:00:37 GMT 1, Very interesting thread.
I hope people really read this thread carefully and take note of members true characters showing through.
Very interesting thread.
I hope people really read this thread carefully and take note of members true characters showing through.
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by Hubble Bubble on Apr 9, 2013 14:10:16 GMT 1, Fair enough aj - wasn't in any way 'having a go', simply that the e-waves are full of folk spitting bile who have no cogent memories of life in the 70's and 80's. Yours was such a venomous post I was curious to know if your sentiments towards her were borne out of experience. Thanks for answering. Onwards and upwards
Fair enough aj - wasn't in any way 'having a go', simply that the e-waves are full of folk spitting bile who have no cogent memories of life in the 70's and 80's. Yours was such a venomous post I was curious to know if your sentiments towards her were borne out of experience. Thanks for answering. Onwards and upwards |
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by Happy Shopper on Apr 9, 2013 15:13:53 GMT 1, Very interesting thread. I hope people really read this thread carefully and take note of members true characters showing through.
Sadly, yes.... unbelievable the number of people on here supporting politicians of either party. Shameful...
Very interesting thread. I hope people really read this thread carefully and take note of members true characters showing through. Sadly, yes.... unbelievable the number of people on here supporting politicians of either party. Shameful... |
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by Deleted on Apr 9, 2013 15:28:44 GMT 1, Very interesting thread. I hope people really read this thread carefully and take note of members true characters showing through.
Very interesting thread. I hope people really read this thread carefully and take note of members true characters showing through. I have, and you're top of my list with your opening salvo of 'very sad news'. |
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by rottenredrooster on Apr 9, 2013 15:59:35 GMT 1, Amazes me how people who collect urban art love Thatcher.
Beligerence from the 80s has shown its face.
Amazes me how people who collect urban art love Thatcher.
Beligerence from the 80s has shown its face.
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Margaret Thatcher Art, by stillborncrisps on Apr 9, 2013 16:17:03 GMT 1, Very interesting thread. I hope people really read this thread carefully and take note of members true characters showing through.
Silky, I have to say I'm both surprised and disappointed at a comment like this coming from a moderator/administrator.
Very interesting thread. I hope people really read this thread carefully and take note of members true characters showing through. Silky, I have to say I'm both surprised and disappointed at a comment like this coming from a moderator/administrator. |
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down to a simple hatred of an opposing belief and a cursory description of those that hold it as somehow intellectually inferior that display the true lack of intelligence.
