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Whatson, by .dappy on Oct 12, 2014 0:18:13 GMT 1, For that price, you could've got the 3 piece set (Zebra, Toucan and the Chameleon) all 60cm x 60cm on metal panel at the group show couple months back. Please, please, please somebody tell me what is so special about metal and art prints as i have no clue?! i usually leave metal pricing to the scrap man.
... the base that you paint onto makes a difference to the line and texture and 'luminance' of the painted piece. The black of my ER is stark and solid when compared to the black on a paper piece. I am not sure that you can see from a photo - but it just is.
Bast and Faile take paper and more often than not paint over the paper completely before painting/screen printing a piece on top. It changes the medium and what you see as the final piece.
For that price, you could've got the 3 piece set (Zebra, Toucan and the Chameleon) all 60cm x 60cm on metal panel at the group show couple months back. Please, please, please somebody tell me what is so special about metal and art prints as i have no clue?! i usually leave metal pricing to the scrap man. ... the base that you paint onto makes a difference to the line and texture and 'luminance' of the painted piece. The black of my ER is stark and solid when compared to the black on a paper piece. I am not sure that you can see from a photo - but it just is. Bast and Faile take paper and more often than not paint over the paper completely before painting/screen printing a piece on top. It changes the medium and what you see as the final piece. |
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Whatson, by skorcher on Oct 12, 2014 0:25:29 GMT 1, Please, please, please somebody tell me what is so special about metal and art prints as i have no clue?! i usually leave metal pricing to the scrap man. ... the base that you paint onto makes a difference to the line and texture and 'luminance' of the painted piece. The black of my ER is stark and solid when compared to the black on a paper piece. I am not sure that you can see from a photo - but it just is. Bast and Faile take paper and more often than not paint over the paper completely before painting/screen printing a piece on top. It changes the medium and what you see as the final piece.
Please, please, please somebody tell me what is so special about metal and art prints as i have no clue?! i usually leave metal pricing to the scrap man. ... the base that you paint onto makes a difference to the line and texture and 'luminance' of the painted piece. The black of my ER is stark and solid when compared to the black on a paper piece. I am not sure that you can see from a photo - but it just is. Bast and Faile take paper and more often than not paint over the paper completely before painting/screen printing a piece on top. It changes the medium and what you see as the final piece. Very well said!! |
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Oct 12, 2014 10:16:03 GMT 1
Whatson, by fingerz on Oct 12, 2014 10:16:03 GMT 1, ... stop it all of you ... you are all very naughty! ... I have not shown the frame and detail in such a long while ...  
... stop it all of you ... you are all very naughty! ... I have not shown the frame and detail in such a long while ... ..... i think there's 1 square inch of yours i haven't seen yet ...... |
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Whatson, by Dungle on Oct 12, 2014 10:29:33 GMT 1, Please, please, please somebody tell me what is so special about metal and art prints as i have no clue?! i usually leave metal pricing to the scrap man. ... the base that you paint onto makes a difference to the line and texture and 'luminance' of the painted piece. ย The black of my ER is stark and solid when compared to the black on a paper piece. I am not sure that you can see from a photo - but it just is. Bast and Faile take paper and more often than not paint over the paper completely before painting/screen printing a piece on top. It changes the medium and what you see as the final piece.
I'd like to see a picture of that just yo make sure....
Please, please, please somebody tell me what is so special about metal and art prints as i have no clue?! i usually leave metal pricing to the scrap man. ... the base that you paint onto makes a difference to the line and texture and 'luminance' of the painted piece. ย The black of my ER is stark and solid when compared to the black on a paper piece. I am not sure that you can see from a photo - but it just is. Bast and Faile take paper and more often than not paint over the paper completely before painting/screen printing a piece on top. It changes the medium and what you see as the final piece. I'd like to see a picture of that just yo make sure.... |
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Oct 12, 2014 10:36:42 GMT 1
Whatson, by thomasmer on Oct 12, 2014 10:36:42 GMT 1, Rushmore, he's trying to sound like a proper critic, yawn.
As much as I'm not a great lover of Whatson or Dots work, I have followed Martins work since way before the Banksy phenomenon and the insanity that the art market brought with it, Martin was one of the most meticulous and skilled stencil artists out there, only really bettered by Logan Hicks and that guy who painted the Spaceman dogs, that was 10 years ago. For me, Martin did it for love and never money, his heart was in it for the right reasons, unlike a great many bandwagon artists out there.
I don't own any work by either of them, but they don't deserve the wanker criticism thrown upon them by someone who hasn't lived and been part of the scene.
As for Nuart, Martin curates a great show that takes more work than I could imagine, I'd ditch that muppet next year, and hear him cry.
Rushmore, he's trying to sound like a proper critic, yawn. As much as I'm not a great lover of Whatson or Dots work, I have followed Martins work since way before the Banksy phenomenon and the insanity that the art market brought with it, Martin was one of the most meticulous and skilled stencil artists out there, only really bettered by Logan Hicks and that guy who painted the Spaceman dogs, that was 10 years ago. For me, Martin did it for love and never money, his heart was in it for the right reasons, unlike a great many bandwagon artists out there. I don't own any work by either of them, but they don't deserve the wanker criticism thrown upon them by someone who hasn't lived and been part of the scene. As for Nuart, Martin curates a great show that takes more work than I could imagine, I'd ditch that muppet next year, and hear him cry. |
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Whatson, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2014 10:57:19 GMT 1, Martin deserves all the criticism he gets. Maybe he'll listen to it and stop rehashing the same boring crap he's been doing for two years straight.
Martin deserves all the criticism he gets. Maybe he'll listen to it and stop rehashing the same boring crap he's been doing for two years straight.
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Whatson, by Art Fan 2011 on Oct 12, 2014 11:20:55 GMT 1, Not sure why he would feel the need for change,he has so many collectors that follow him now and love what he does, any release sells out in seconds and his original stuff fetches good money it seems. As they say "if it aint broke, dont fix it" !
Not sure why he would feel the need for change,he has so many collectors that follow him now and love what he does, any release sells out in seconds and his original stuff fetches good money it seems. As they say "if it aint broke, dont fix it" !
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Oct 12, 2014 11:30:44 GMT 1
Whatson, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2014 11:30:44 GMT 1, Because he's an artist. Boundaries should be pushed. He's trapped within his own success, albeit pitifully small, so all he does is rehash, rehash and rehash. You can say "hey it's not broke don't fix it!" while I'll say "If it's not new and refreshing with both form and function what is the point?"
Because he's an artist. Boundaries should be pushed. He's trapped within his own success, albeit pitifully small, so all he does is rehash, rehash and rehash. You can say "hey it's not broke don't fix it!" while I'll say "If it's not new and refreshing with both form and function what is the point?"
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Oct 12, 2014 11:36:01 GMT 1
Whatson, by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 11:36:01 GMT 1, Rushmore, he's trying to sound like a proper critic, yawn. As much as I'm not a great lover of Whatson or Dots work, I have followed Martins work since way before the Banksy phenomenon and the insanity that the art market brought with it, Martin was one of the most meticulous and skilled stencil artists out there, only really bettered by Logan Hicks and that guy who painted the Spaceman dogs, that was 10 years ago. For me, Martin did it for love and never money, his heart was in it for the right reasons, unlike a great many bandwagon artists out there.
so errrr when was that?
also rather entertaining you mention hicks...but I'm sure with your vast knowledge of whatson you know all about that too
Rushmore, he's trying to sound like a proper critic, yawn. As much as I'm not a great lover of Whatson or Dots work, I have followed Martins work since way before the Banksy phenomenon and the insanity that the art market brought with it, Martin was one of the most meticulous and skilled stencil artists out there, only really bettered by Logan Hicks and that guy who painted the Spaceman dogs, that was 10 years ago. For me, Martin did it for love and never money, his heart was in it for the right reasons, unlike a great many bandwagon artists out there.
so errrr when was that?
also rather entertaining you mention hicks...but I'm sure with your vast knowledge of whatson you know all about that too
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Oct 12, 2014 11:41:59 GMT 1
Whatson, by gilsteph on Oct 12, 2014 11:41:59 GMT 1, Martin is a top bloke and been working on his art for many years. Good luck to him I say 
These are from 2006 and 2007. Still love them now..... 
Martin is a top bloke and been working on his art for many years. Good luck to him I say
These are from 2006 and 2007. Still love them now.....
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Whatson, by .dappy on Oct 12, 2014 12:10:44 GMT 1,
... I love the one on the left ... but you know that mr g
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Oct 12, 2014 13:14:29 GMT 1
Whatson, by thomasmer on Oct 12, 2014 13:14:29 GMT 1, Rushmore, he's trying to sound like a proper critic, yawn. As much as I'm not a great lover of Whatson or Dots work, I have followed Martins work since way before the Banksy phenomenon and the insanity that the art market brought with it, Martin was one of the most meticulous and skilled stencil artists out there, only really bettered by Logan Hicks and that guy who painted the Spaceman dogs, that was 10 years ago. For me, Martin did it for love and never money, his heart was in it for the right reasons, unlike a great many bandwagon artists out there.
so errrr when was that?
also rather entertaining you mention hicks...but I'm sure with your vast knowledge of whatson you know all about that too
Boxi, that was the Spaceman dog guy, back then there was no one cutting stencils as good as those three.
Rushmore, he's trying to sound like a proper critic, yawn. As much as I'm not a great lover of Whatson or Dots work, I have followed Martins work since way before the Banksy phenomenon and the insanity that the art market brought with it, Martin was one of the most meticulous and skilled stencil artists out there, only really bettered by Logan Hicks and that guy who painted the Spaceman dogs, that was 10 years ago. For me, Martin did it for love and never money, his heart was in it for the right reasons, unlike a great many bandwagon artists out there.
so errrr when was that?
also rather entertaining you mention hicks...but I'm sure with your vast knowledge of whatson you know all about that too
When was that? I'm not 100% sure but I remember seeing his work but under the name CTRL and Banksy editions and originals were still easily available at POW for cost, actually, POW were selling Banksy's on ebay for under cost at that time. Boxi, that was the Spaceman dog guy, back then there was no one cutting stencils as good as those three. |
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Whatson, by chitownhero on Oct 12, 2014 13:35:55 GMT 1, Unfortunately, Martin Whatson is just a massive target for faillipers.
Unfortunately, Martin Whatson is just a massive target for faillipers.
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Whatson, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2014 14:27:19 GMT 1, "Failippers"? I think there is a whole industry based on reselling his trash.
"Failippers"? I think there is a whole industry based on reselling his trash.
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Whatson, by thomasmer on Oct 12, 2014 15:28:47 GMT 1, "Failippers"? I think there is a whole industry based on reselling his trash.
Trash is a little harsh.
While I'm not fond of his work, I'd like to see the members on here shouting and moaning about it try to create stencil work similar to his quality.
"Failippers"? I think there is a whole industry based on reselling his trash. Trash is a little harsh. While I'm not fond of his work, I'd like to see the members on here shouting and moaning about it try to create stencil work similar to his quality. |
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Whatson, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2014 15:50:18 GMT 1, Fine then,s**t nit trash. The idea that if you're not an artist then you can't criticize art is hilarious.
Fine then,s**t nit trash. The idea that if you're not an artist then you can't criticize art is hilarious.
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Whatson, by .dappy on Oct 12, 2014 15:55:28 GMT 1, ... stop it all of you ... you are all very naughty! ... I have not shown the frame and detail in such a long while ... ..... i think there's 1 square inch of yours i haven't seen yet ......
** STOP PRESS ** STOP PRES ** STOP PRESS **Previously UNRELEASED Photo (3/4 view) 
... stop it all of you ... you are all very naughty! ... I have not shown the frame and detail in such a long while ... ..... i think there's 1 square inch of yours i haven't seen yet ...... ** STOP PRESS ** STOP PRES ** STOP PRESS **Previously UNRELEASED Photo (3/4 view) |
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Whatson, by lha on Oct 12, 2014 18:47:09 GMT 1, .dappy ..... i think there's ย 1 square inch of yours i haven't seen yet ...... ** STOP PRESS ** STOP PRES ** STOP PRESS **Previously UNRELEASED Photo (3/4 view)
The Whatson debate will rumble on and on with those for, against and neutral just like the WCP debate and others
Shouldn't have posted that ER dappy, now look what you've made me do....
.dappy ..... i think there's ย 1 square inch of yours i haven't seen yet ...... ** STOP PRESS ** STOP PRES ** STOP PRESS **Previously UNRELEASED Photo (3/4 view) The Whatson debate will rumble on and on with those for, against and neutral just like the WCP debate and others Shouldn't have posted that ER dappy, now look what you've made me do.... |
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Whatson, by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 20:07:42 GMT 1, "Failippers"? I think there is a whole industry based on reselling his trash. Trash is a little harsh. While I'm not fond of his work, I'd like to see the members on here shouting and moaning about it try to create stencil work similar to his quality.
Very true. I guess it's easy for certain keyboard warriors to slag off others even though they've achieved very little themselves. There's no problem criticising artists (I don't like the new Nick Walker print and I said so) but when it comes down to people just being insulting that probably says more about them as people than the artist.
"Failippers"? I think there is a whole industry based on reselling his trash. Trash is a little harsh. While I'm not fond of his work, I'd like to see the members on here shouting and moaning about it try to create stencil work similar to his quality. Very true. I guess it's easy for certain keyboard warriors to slag off others even though they've achieved very little themselves. There's no problem criticising artists (I don't like the new Nick Walker print and I said so) but when it comes down to people just being insulting that probably says more about them as people than the artist. |
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Oct 12, 2014 20:57:24 GMT 1
Whatson, by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 20:57:24 GMT 1, Trash is a little harsh. While I'm not fond of his work, I'd like to see the members on here shouting and moaning about it try to create stencil work similar to his quality. Very true. I guess it's easy for certain keyboard warriors to slag off others even though they've achieved very little themselves. There's no problem criticising artists (I don't like the new Nick Walker print and I said so) but when it comes down to people just being insulting that probably says more about them as people than the artist.
I have to agree with this. I have chosen to not insult any artist on this forum and, will continue to do so.
Trash is a little harsh. While I'm not fond of his work, I'd like to see the members on here shouting and moaning about it try to create stencil work similar to his quality. Very true. I guess it's easy for certain keyboard warriors to slag off others even though they've achieved very little themselves. There's no problem criticising artists (I don't like the new Nick Walker print and I said so) but when it comes down to people just being insulting that probably says more about them as people than the artist. I have to agree with this. I have chosen to not insult any artist on this forum and, will continue to do so. |
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Whatson, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2014 21:06:04 GMT 1, I hope that both Nick Walker and Martin Whatson read this and stop making stencils.
I hope that both Nick Walker and Martin Whatson read this and stop making stencils.
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Oct 12, 2014 21:36:57 GMT 1
Whatson, by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 21:36:57 GMT 1, Why would you say this? Art is in the eye of the beholder!
Why would you say this? Art is in the eye of the beholder!
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Whatson, by lha on Oct 12, 2014 21:53:22 GMT 1, Martin deserves all the criticism he gets. Maybe he'll listen to it and stop rehashing the same boring crap he's been doing for two years straight.
Not a fan anymore then posterbob?
I am offering a framed print plus ยฃ50 or a jailbirds print plus ยฃ75 for a one small step print. Uk based people highly preferred. can be done in person if you are in London.
Martin deserves all the criticism he gets. Maybe he'll listen to it and stop rehashing the same boring crap he's been doing for two years straight. Not a fan anymore then posterbob? I am offering a framed print plus ยฃ50 or a jailbirds print plus ยฃ75 for a one small step print. Uk based people highly preferred. can be done in person if you are in London. |
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Oct 12, 2014 21:56:11 GMT 1
Whatson, by disdig1 on Oct 12, 2014 21:56:11 GMT 1, 
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Whatson, by delano on Oct 12, 2014 21:58:48 GMT 1, I hope that both Nick Walker and Martin Whatson read this and stop making stencils.
Why on earth would two stencil artists cease working & give up their careers on the back of a bunch of negative comments in this thread?
I hope that both Nick Walker and Martin Whatson read this and stop making stencils. Why on earth would two stencil artists cease working & give up their careers on the back of a bunch of negative comments in this thread? |
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Oct 12, 2014 22:03:51 GMT 1
Whatson, by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 22:03:51 GMT 1, I fancy Whatson. As a "wannabe" artist... I wish I had 1/10 his talent. Repetitive or not.
I fancy Whatson. As a "wannabe" artist... I wish I had 1/10 his talent. Repetitive or not.
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Oct 12, 2014 22:05:40 GMT 1
Whatson, by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 22:05:40 GMT 1, Unfortunately, Martin Whatson is just a massive target for faillipers.
Unfortunately, Martin Whatson is just a massive target for faillipers. Ah... Now... Here's an opinion I respect. Ha! |
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Oct 12, 2014 22:29:20 GMT 1
Whatson, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2014 22:29:20 GMT 1, Martin deserves all the criticism he gets. Maybe he'll listen to it and stop rehashing the same boring crap he's been doing for two years straight. Not a fan anymore then posterbob? I am offering a framed print plus ยฃ50 or a jailbirds print plus ยฃ75 for a one small step print. Uk based people highly preferred. can be done in person if you are in London.
I've sold off everything I had by him as my tastes have changed significantly and I think he's shit.
Martin deserves all the criticism he gets. Maybe he'll listen to it and stop rehashing the same boring crap he's been doing for two years straight. Not a fan anymore then posterbob? I am offering a framed print plus ยฃ50 or a jailbirds print plus ยฃ75 for a one small step print. Uk based people highly preferred. can be done in person if you are in London. I've sold off everything I had by him as my tastes have changed significantly and I think he's shit. |
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Whatson, by lha on Oct 12, 2014 22:36:38 GMT 1, Not a fan anymore then posterbob? I've sold off everything I had by him as my tastes have changed significantly and I think he's s**t.
Tastes change, that's completely understandable. This place is full of art fans, maybe explore what's changed in your tastes and come up with some constructive criticism. People appreciate that sort of input. To say an artist is 'shit' etc because your tastes have changed is somewhat shortsighted.
Not a fan anymore then posterbob? I've sold off everything I had by him as my tastes have changed significantly and I think he's s**t. Tastes change, that's completely understandable. This place is full of art fans, maybe explore what's changed in your tastes and come up with some constructive criticism. People appreciate that sort of input. To say an artist is 'shit' etc because your tastes have changed is somewhat shortsighted. |
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Oct 12, 2014 22:40:19 GMT 1
Whatson, by Poster Bob on Oct 12, 2014 22:40:19 GMT 1, Criticism does not need to be constructive.s**t needs to be called shit.
Criticism does not need to be constructive.s**t needs to be called shit.
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