Dr Plip
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Everybody okay in paris?, by Dr Plip on Jan 11, 2015 3:27:42 GMT 1, While I agree we live in civilised democratic countries.
It is because the indigenous people of these countries created this society.
There is nothing to stop peope in Africa the middle east or wherever doing the same.
Well apart from a more powerful and crooked west! The colonization and abuse of Africa by the west left it in tatters, the constant warmongering of the west in the middle east, those murders Tony Blair and Bush should be locked up for the false war in Iraq that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people and left the country in a state of civil war, the abuses by France in Algeria and the bloodshed. Yes these countries might have had a chance is we didnt f**k them, and continue to f**k them. Look at the history. Yup. Many have had their natural resources plundered for generations too. Corruption and interference from outside influences have continuously undermined the advancement of many countries.
While I agree we live in civilised democratic countries.
It is because the indigenous people of these countries created this society.
There is nothing to stop peope in Africa the middle east or wherever doing the same.
Well apart from a more powerful and crooked west! The colonization and abuse of Africa by the west left it in tatters, the constant warmongering of the west in the middle east, those murders Tony Blair and Bush should be locked up for the false war in Iraq that murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people and left the country in a state of civil war, the abuses by France in Algeria and the bloodshed. Yes these countries might have had a chance is we didnt f**k them, and continue to f**k them. Look at the history. Yup. Many have had their natural resources plundered for generations too. Corruption and interference from outside influences have continuously undermined the advancement of many countries.
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It's made-up journalistic bollocks...I think Blek would be very extremely pissed off if this were true.
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Everybody okay in paris?, by randomname on Jan 12, 2015 23:53:50 GMT 1, Their new cover.
Their new cover.
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Everybody okay in paris?, by curiousgeorge on Jan 14, 2015 2:29:53 GMT 1, Their new cover. 3 million copies said to being printed, compared to the usual 60,000 run
Their new cover. 3 million copies said to being printed, compared to the usual 60,000 run
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Everybody okay in paris?, by londonboy on Jan 14, 2015 2:35:38 GMT 1, I may try to get several..
Let me get the French family involved
Somewhere, It didn't sink in yet .. No more Cabu?? Le club Dorothรฉe generation just lost an icon and a friend..
;( ;(
I may try to get several.. Let me get the French family involved Somewhere, It didn't sink in yet .. No more Cabu?? Le club Dorothรฉe generation just lost an icon and a friend.. ;( ;(
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thomasmer
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Everybody okay in paris?, by thomasmer on Jan 14, 2015 4:25:19 GMT 1, Its just turned into a political tool, makes me so fucking sick.
Look at the murders in Nigeria, no linking of arms down the street there huh.
Its just turned into a political tool, makes me so fucking sick.
Look at the murders in Nigeria, no linking of arms down the street there huh.
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Everybody okay in paris?, by tab1 on Jan 14, 2015 4:32:46 GMT 1, Its just turned into a political tool, makes me so f**king sick. Look at the murders in Nigeria, no linking of arms down the street there huh.
No news as it's far from the west and doesn't effect our society's YET! You can't isolate a problem , it's now a global threat and these French extremist travelled to Africa for training , it needs tackling on all fronts Life is precious regardless of class or ethnicity , obviously not in the media . Anyone tried to Google what's happening in Chechnya ? So much relevant news is restricted ?!
Its just turned into a political tool, makes me so f**king sick. Look at the murders in Nigeria, no linking of arms down the street there huh. No news as it's far from the west and doesn't effect our society's YET! You can't isolate a problem , it's now a global threat and these French extremist travelled to Africa for training , it needs tackling on all fronts Life is precious regardless of class or ethnicity , obviously not in the media . Anyone tried to Google what's happening in Chechnya ? So much relevant news is restricted ?!
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Everybody okay in paris?, by misterx on Jan 14, 2015 5:17:00 GMT 1, Remember the Presidents and PM's walking in solidarity at the front of the masses, leading the way? As you can see from the photo above, things weren't quite as they were sold to us...
WTF Netanyahoo(sic) is doing there is utterly beyond me and a hypocrisy of the most disgusting kind...(Hollande even asked him not to attend...), but Abbas, he of Palestinian fame, was also there, which presented Netanyahoo with a problem during this staged photoshoot, as they can be seen pretty close to each other and Benny's got an election coming up...not a good look.
What did they do? Abbas was airbrushed out, replaced with by the Queen of Jordan.
Sarkozy, clearly present, was also removed.
Can you believe this??
Wonder what else they are lying about??
Remember the Presidents and PM's walking in solidarity at the front of the masses, leading the way? As you can see from the photo above, things weren't quite as they were sold to us... WTF Netanyahoo(sic) is doing there is utterly beyond me and a hypocrisy of the most disgusting kind...(Hollande even asked him not to attend...), but Abbas, he of Palestinian fame, was also there, which presented Netanyahoo with a problem during this staged photoshoot, as they can be seen pretty close to each other and Benny's got an election coming up...not a good look. What did they do? Abbas was airbrushed out, replaced with by the Queen of Jordan. Sarkozy, clearly present, was also removed. Can you believe this?? Wonder what else they are lying about??
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Everybody okay in paris?, by tab1 on Jan 14, 2015 5:34:03 GMT 1, m.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_nkw=charlie+hebdo&_pgn=1&_sop=16
Bad play people trying to profit from this personally , not as if directed to charities or supporting the victims families
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Everybody okay in paris?, by tab1 on Jan 14, 2015 5:40:17 GMT 1, Remember the Presidents and PM's walking in solidarity at the front of the masses, leading the way? As you can see from the photo above, things weren't quite as they were sold to us... WTF Netanyahoo(sic) is doing there is utterly beyond me and a hypocrisy of the most disgusting kind...(Hollande even asked him not to attend...), but Abbas, he of Palestinian fame, was also there, which presented Netanyahoo with a problem during this staged photoshoot, as they can be seen pretty close to each other and Benny's got an election coming up...not a good look. What did they do? Abbas was airbrushed out, replaced with by the Queen of Jordan. Sarkozy, clearly present, was also removed. Can you believe this?? Wonder what else they are lying about??
A lot of misinformation regularly presented by mainstream media ,lucky we have the freedom of the internet .
In a time of world recession , where the general public would condemn going to war , gives justice to governments to re start a war on the global threat.
Remember the Presidents and PM's walking in solidarity at the front of the masses, leading the way? As you can see from the photo above, things weren't quite as they were sold to us... WTF Netanyahoo(sic) is doing there is utterly beyond me and a hypocrisy of the most disgusting kind...(Hollande even asked him not to attend...), but Abbas, he of Palestinian fame, was also there, which presented Netanyahoo with a problem during this staged photoshoot, as they can be seen pretty close to each other and Benny's got an election coming up...not a good look. What did they do? Abbas was airbrushed out, replaced with by the Queen of Jordan. Sarkozy, clearly present, was also removed. Can you believe this?? Wonder what else they are lying about?? A lot of misinformation regularly presented by mainstream media ,lucky we have the freedom of the internet . In a time of world recession , where the general public would condemn going to war , gives justice to governments to re start a war on the global threat.
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Everybody okay in paris?, by tab1 on Jan 14, 2015 5:47:52 GMT 1, The magazine
They should be sent to different countries , as they will be in different languages .
If guys in England want this , Maybe who distributes private eye may distribute these ? Whsmith ?
The magazine
They should be sent to different countries , as they will be in different languages .
If guys in England want this , Maybe who distributes private eye may distribute these ? Whsmith ?
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Everybody okay in paris?, by thomasmer on Jan 14, 2015 10:02:13 GMT 1, I can't work out quite how she's alowed airtime?
I can't work out quite how she's alowed airtime?
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Everybody okay in paris?, by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 10:40:55 GMT 1, I can't work out quite how she's alowed airtime? She's bonkers!
I can't work out quite how she's alowed airtime? She's bonkers!
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Everybody okay in paris?, by Pipes on Jan 14, 2015 10:45:06 GMT 1, This is very good
This is very good
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Everybody okay in paris?, by Dr Plip on Jan 14, 2015 11:10:10 GMT 1,
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Everybody okay in paris?, by Lroy on Jan 14, 2015 12:00:46 GMT 1, Turns out getting a copy is harder than anticipated, Roy unfortunately didn't get one today, so if anyone can pick me up a French copy it would be greatly appreciated! Yes I will do mate. I queued at 7 am this morning and... all sold out ( I think some Newpapers ' shops had reserved a lot for mates ( some booked 100 ex ! I heard one 1000 ex, a boss who wanted to give one Charlie to his employees ) . I did not get one for me. For foreign countries , I think that it will be hard to get one ( apart for London all the capitals ) , only 300000 will be sent there, in all the world. It is really incredible, I never saw that. 3 K sold out ( or already booked ) , and they will make 2K more. But , no worry, in France we will get some more ( the only problem is that newpaper sellers don't want to sell one per personn as I heard ), I am sure. Some here did not understand about translation. All the Charlie will be in 5 langage but in an unic ex. ( not one for each country ) . Each drawing per example will be in French of course, Spanish, English, Arabian and Turkish. It is for a great cause and Charlie is Happy about all this selling ( they will just get the money for the first one million ex. sold ) , and and it will be a great collector ( we will can find the last drawings - never seen before - from the Charlie's drawers and journalists killed, and new drawings from the survivors - only 6,7 ). Ebay ' Flippers of the last number ( nยฐ1777 , around 400/600 even 1000 euros on the bay ) , will not be happy, and that's great : at 5 k ex . the bids won't go so high even if ( lol - this one already sold for 50 euros ) :
www.ebay.fr/itm/CHARLIE-HEBDO-N-1178-EDITION-DU-14-JANVIER-2015-JE-SUIS-CHARLIE-/121543776116?pt=FR_GW_Livres_BD_et_Revues_Journaux_Revues_Magazines&hash=item1c4c92d774
Turns out getting a copy is harder than anticipated, Roy unfortunately didn't get one today, so if anyone can pick me up a French copy it would be greatly appreciated! Yes I will do mate. I queued at 7 am this morning and... all sold out ( I think some Newpapers ' shops had reserved a lot for mates ( some booked 100 ex ! I heard one 1000 ex, a boss who wanted to give one Charlie to his employees ) . I did not get one for me. For foreign countries , I think that it will be hard to get one ( apart for London all the capitals ) , only 300000 will be sent there, in all the world. It is really incredible, I never saw that. 3 K sold out ( or already booked ) , and they will make 2K more. But , no worry, in France we will get some more ( the only problem is that newpaper sellers don't want to sell one per personn as I heard ), I am sure. Some here did not understand about translation. All the Charlie will be in 5 langage but in an unic ex. ( not one for each country ) . Each drawing per example will be in French of course, Spanish, English, Arabian and Turkish. It is for a great cause and Charlie is Happy about all this selling ( they will just get the money for the first one million ex. sold ) , and and it will be a great collector ( we will can find the last drawings - never seen before - from the Charlie's drawers and journalists killed, and new drawings from the survivors - only 6,7 ). Ebay ' Flippers of the last number ( nยฐ1777 , around 400/600 even 1000 euros on the bay ) , will not be happy, and that's grea t : at 5 k ex . the bids won't go so high even if ( lol - this one already sold for 50 euros ) : www.ebay.fr/itm/CHARLIE-HEBDO-N-1178-EDITION-DU-14-JANVIER-2015-JE-SUIS-CHARLIE-/121543776116?pt=FR_GW_Livres_BD_et_Revues_Journaux_Revues_Magazines&hash=item1c4c92d774
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Dr Plip
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Everybody okay in paris?, by Dr Plip on Jan 14, 2015 12:14:58 GMT 1, I can't work out quite how she's alowed airtime? Bloody hell. Fox News' insane version of Lorraine Kelly there.
I can't work out quite how she's alowed airtime? Bloody hell. Fox News' insane version of Lorraine Kelly there.
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Everybody okay in paris?, by Lroy on Jan 14, 2015 12:58:42 GMT 1, Don't worry, I will get some.
Don't worry, I will get some.
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Everybody okay in paris?, by Paname on Jan 14, 2015 13:09:13 GMT 1, Finally 5 millions copies
Finally 5 millions copies
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Everybody okay in paris?, by oxomo on Jan 14, 2015 13:14:39 GMT 1, I'd also love a copy if there is a spare going...no favours being asked. Only if there is a spare.
A truly sad, but unifying moment in history.
I'd also love a copy if there is a spare going...no favours being asked. Only if there is a spare.
A truly sad, but unifying moment in history.
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Everybody okay in paris?, by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 14:11:21 GMT 1, Comparing this to Nigeria is very tough. Nigeria was and is far worse of an event, they just dont have the political or marketing mindset to rally, call the media, and do things such as holding hands in the street for photos, to catch the attention. Thats all this is, marketing and PR. Gaining airtime to turn a tragedy into a triumph.
Im at the point where I cant read or watch the news, especially if it involves children. Its not that I dont want it to stop, its that my creative mind automatically brings my family into it and I begin to visualize myself in their shoes. That feeling doesnt go away for a few days, so Ive simply stopped watching.
Humanity is a virus, one that kills cells (Planets) and eradicates itself and its resources. There are beauties to life, of course. There is art. But as I said before, its a scary place, and there is a lot of threat out there, from millions of people. If you dont have children, you may not understand it yet, but you worry all the time.
Comparing this to Nigeria is very tough. Nigeria was and is far worse of an event, they just dont have the political or marketing mindset to rally, call the media, and do things such as holding hands in the street for photos, to catch the attention. Thats all this is, marketing and PR. Gaining airtime to turn a tragedy into a triumph.
Im at the point where I cant read or watch the news, especially if it involves children. Its not that I dont want it to stop, its that my creative mind automatically brings my family into it and I begin to visualize myself in their shoes. That feeling doesnt go away for a few days, so Ive simply stopped watching.
Humanity is a virus, one that kills cells (Planets) and eradicates itself and its resources. There are beauties to life, of course. There is art. But as I said before, its a scary place, and there is a lot of threat out there, from millions of people. If you dont have children, you may not understand it yet, but you worry all the time.
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Everybody okay in paris?, by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 14:21:40 GMT 1, Remember the Presidents and PM's walking in solidarity at the front of the masses, leading the way? As you can see from the photo above, things weren't quite as they were sold to us... WTF Netanyahoo(sic) is doing there is utterly beyond me and a hypocrisy of the most disgusting kind...(Hollande even asked him not to attend...), but Abbas, he of Palestinian fame, was also there, which presented Netanyahoo with a problem during this staged photoshoot, as they can be seen pretty close to each other and Benny's got an election coming up...not a good look. What did they do? Abbas was airbrushed out, replaced with by the Queen of Jordan. Sarkozy, clearly present, was also removed. Can you believe this?? Wonder what else they are lying about?? A lot of misinformation regularly presented by mainstream media ,lucky we have the freedom of the internet . In a time of world recession , where the general public would condemn going to war , gives justice to governments to re start a war on the global threat. We have the freedom of the internet for now. I'm sure this and the "Korean" Sony hacks will be used to chip away some more of those freedoms.
Remember the Presidents and PM's walking in solidarity at the front of the masses, leading the way? As you can see from the photo above, things weren't quite as they were sold to us... WTF Netanyahoo(sic) is doing there is utterly beyond me and a hypocrisy of the most disgusting kind...(Hollande even asked him not to attend...), but Abbas, he of Palestinian fame, was also there, which presented Netanyahoo with a problem during this staged photoshoot, as they can be seen pretty close to each other and Benny's got an election coming up...not a good look. What did they do? Abbas was airbrushed out, replaced with by the Queen of Jordan. Sarkozy, clearly present, was also removed. Can you believe this?? Wonder what else they are lying about?? A lot of misinformation regularly presented by mainstream media ,lucky we have the freedom of the internet . In a time of world recession , where the general public would condemn going to war , gives justice to governments to re start a war on the global threat. We have the freedom of the internet for now. I'm sure this and the "Korean" Sony hacks will be used to chip away some more of those freedoms.
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Everybody okay in paris?, by anbesivam1 on Jan 14, 2015 14:44:52 GMT 1, Remember the Presidents and PM's walking in solidarity at the front of the masses, leading the way? As you can see from the photo above, things weren't quite as they were sold to us... WTF Netanyahoo(sic) is doing there is utterly beyond me and a hypocrisy of the most disgusting kind...(Hollande even asked him not to attend...), but Abbas, he of Palestinian fame, was also there, which presented Netanyahoo with a problem during this staged photoshoot, as they can be seen pretty close to each other and Benny's got an election coming up...not a good look. What did they do? Abbas was airbrushed out, replaced with by the Queen of Jordan. Sarkozy, clearly present, was also removed. Can you believe this?? Wonder what else they are lying about??
Photos are obviously static images of our dynamic World!
You can clearly see that Abbas is standing next to the Queen of Jordan (Lucky so and so) in this photo. In the photo you posted - you can clearly see the the white mane of Abbas just behind her head...i.e. the moment the second photo was taken Abbas had slipped back from the front momentarily. Also, Sarkozy, even with his 10inch heels, is too short to be seen behind the chap with the hat on (hold Netanyahu's arm).
Simples.
Remember the Presidents and PM's walking in solidarity at the front of the masses, leading the way? As you can see from the photo above, things weren't quite as they were sold to us... WTF Netanyahoo(sic) is doing there is utterly beyond me and a hypocrisy of the most disgusting kind...(Hollande even asked him not to attend...), but Abbas, he of Palestinian fame, was also there, which presented Netanyahoo with a problem during this staged photoshoot, as they can be seen pretty close to each other and Benny's got an election coming up...not a good look. What did they do? Abbas was airbrushed out, replaced with by the Queen of Jordan. Sarkozy, clearly present, was also removed. Can you believe this?? Wonder what else they are lying about?? Photos are obviously static images of our dynamic World! You can clearly see that Abbas is standing next to the Queen of Jordan (Lucky so and so) in this photo. In the photo you posted - you can clearly see the the white mane of Abbas just behind her head...i.e. the moment the second photo was taken Abbas had slipped back from the front momentarily. Also, Sarkozy, even with his 10inch heels, is too short to be seen behind the chap with the hat on (hold Netanyahu's arm). Simples.
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Everybody okay in paris?, by thomasmer on Jan 15, 2015 13:28:56 GMT 1, From instagram.com/beejoir/
Thought it was Peter Kennard at first.
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Everybody okay in paris?, by searchandrescue on Jan 15, 2015 15:22:10 GMT 1, Hi thomasmer,
I'm as "down with the young people" as anyone but this seems slightly uneccessary?
Agree there are lots of awful things happening in the world and not all of them get media attention / exposure / resolution we'd like but the spirit of the march was hopefully concilliatory / positive in responce to a terrible thing? (Appreciate it was called by some a "feel good moment") Photographic images of dead people are pretty rare in "mainstream" publishing for lots of reasons (some good some bad) but I feel that they almost belong in the realm of photo journalism, which has its own means of expresion, critique and should perhaps stay there.
Have pretty much avoided this thread up till now. Not really able to understand or come to terms with events. My thoughts are with family and friends of those involved. I'm sure wiser than me have spoken at length on this so will shut for now.
Thanks
Hi thomasmer, I'm as "down with the young people" as anyone but this seems slightly uneccessary? Agree there are lots of awful things happening in the world and not all of them get media attention / exposure / resolution we'd like but the spirit of the march was hopefully concilliatory / positive in responce to a terrible thing? (Appreciate it was called by some a "feel good moment") Photographic images of dead people are pretty rare in "mainstream" publishing for lots of reasons (some good some bad) but I feel that they almost belong in the realm of photo journalism, which has its own means of expresion, critique and should perhaps stay there. Have pretty much avoided this thread up till now. Not really able to understand or come to terms with events. My thoughts are with family and friends of those involved. I'm sure wiser than me have spoken at length on this so will shut for now. Thanks
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Everybody okay in paris?, by Lroy on Jan 15, 2015 18:13:00 GMT 1, A lot of misinformation regularly presented by mainstream media ,lucky we have the freedom of the internet . In a time of world recession , where the general public would condemn going to war , gives justice to governments to re start a war on the global threat. We have the freedom of the internet for now. I'm sure this and the "Korean" Sony hacks will be used to chip away some more of those freedoms. These photos have been done for posterity ( sic ) and history. Nothing wrong in them, I mean they are not with " cheat codes " , lol . Sarkozy was in first placed by Elysees PR in the 3 rank ( because he is not the President but Holland ) , and as he is very small and jealous, they walk a little and then, he began to double the ranks and infiltrate the front row ! To be in front of the cameras . Hi is still sick to have been lost the elections last year , lol...
if you want, on these pics, the first pic is the last in reality ( when sarkozy made slalom as in the Tour de France ) , and the last pic is of course the first ( when he was in the 3 rank ) ... I know , I saw all this on tv, and some medias mocked Sarkozy about that !;-)
A lot of misinformation regularly presented by mainstream media ,lucky we have the freedom of the internet . In a time of world recession , where the general public would condemn going to war , gives justice to governments to re start a war on the global threat. We have the freedom of the internet for now. I'm sure this and the "Korean" Sony hacks will be used to chip away some more of those freedoms. These photos have been done for posterity ( sic ) and history. Nothing wrong in them, I mean they are not with " cheat codes " , lol . Sarkozy was in first placed by Elysees PR in the 3 rank ( because he is not the President but Holland ) , and as he is very small and jealous, they walk a little and then, he began to double the ranks and infiltrate the front row ! To be in front of the cameras . Hi is still sick to have been lost the elections last year , lol... if you want, on these pics, the first pic is the last in reality ( when sarkozy made slalom as in the Tour de France ) , and the last pic is of course the first ( when he was in the 3 rank ) ... I know , I saw all this on tv, and some medias mocked Sarkozy about that !;-)
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