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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by manchestermike on Apr 16, 2008 20:51:54 GMT 1, MONKEY QUEEN AND RATS UNSOLD! The Rats did sell... Gangsta Rat Sold for Β£4,200 plus Premium and tax Welcome to Hell Sold for Β£3,600 plus Premium and tax
weird... they didn't show on the site at the time
MONKEY QUEEN AND RATS UNSOLD! The Rats did sell... Gangsta Rat Sold for Β£4,200 plus Premium and tax Welcome to Hell Sold for Β£3,600 plus Premium and tax weird... they didn't show on the site at the time |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by manchestermike on Apr 16, 2008 20:52:34 GMT 1, I think people are sitting on their hands and waiting to see his show next month to see what the prices will be.
There won't be prices on any pieces in the gallery, and they'll all be sold before it opens too
I think people are sitting on their hands and waiting to see his show next month to see what the prices will be. There won't be prices on any pieces in the gallery, and they'll all be sold before it opens too |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by skanky on Apr 16, 2008 21:09:06 GMT 1, Heavyconsumer, fair play mate. He needs 3 - 5 years of maturity before "investors" would begin to show any interest imo. It is a very strong piece out of the Neate canon of work but will cause shockwaves amongst collectors of his work to date due to the previously experienced acceleration in value unless they are prepared to hold the work as his output and fanbase matures.
Anyone who knows me knows how much of a Neate fan I am and this is difficult for me to say... it was definately not a strong Neate . It was not even in the same league as the majority of pieces in th PPP show, you would have to see it to know what I mean . It was small, the cardboard was very thin and the colours seemed a bit washed out. As a Neate collector I would not have considered buying it and I spoke to many people who felt the same way. In my eyes the man is a genius but this was not representative of his best work, it looked great in the catalogue but not in the flesh. The price bid for it I actually think was still very high for what it was.
Heavyconsumer, fair play mate. He needs 3 - 5 years of maturity before "investors" would begin to show any interest imo. It is a very strong piece out of the Neate canon of work but will cause shockwaves amongst collectors of his work to date due to the previously experienced acceleration in value unless they are prepared to hold the work as his output and fanbase matures. Anyone who knows me knows how much of a Neate fan I am and this is difficult for me to say... it was definately not a strong Neate . It was not even in the same league as the majority of pieces in th PPP show, you would have to see it to know what I mean . It was small, the cardboard was very thin and the colours seemed a bit washed out. As a Neate collector I would not have considered buying it and I spoke to many people who felt the same way. In my eyes the man is a genius but this was not representative of his best work, it looked great in the catalogue but not in the flesh. The price bid for it I actually think was still very high for what it was. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by slowmo on Apr 16, 2008 21:40:30 GMT 1, Strong or weak neate, did the guy pay anything like Β£37K for it originally? I would be interested to know the original selling price of the piece. I would guess a mighty profit could have been turned, but not knowing neate original prices, cant be sure
Strong or weak neate, did the guy pay anything like Β£37K for it originally? I would be interested to know the original selling price of the piece. I would guess a mighty profit could have been turned, but not knowing neate original prices, cant be sure
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by dotdot on Apr 16, 2008 22:23:42 GMT 1, Heavyconsumer, fair play mate. He needs 3 - 5 years of maturity before "investors" would begin to show any interest imo. It is a very strong piece out of the Neate canon of work but will cause shockwaves amongst collectors of his work to date due to the previously experienced acceleration in value unless they are prepared to hold the work as his output and fanbase matures. Anyone who knows me knows how much of a Neate fan I am and this is difficult for me to say... it was definately not a strong Neate . It was not even in the same league as the majority of pieces in th PPP show, you would have to see it to know what I mean . It was small, the cardboard was very thin and the colours seemed a bit washed out. As a Neate collector I would not have considered buying it and I spoke to many people who felt the same way. In my eyes the man is a genius but this was not representative of his best work, it looked great in the catalogue but not in the flesh. The price bid for it I actually think was still very high for what it was.
Thanks for your input skanky - don't recollect you speaking of late...
I wondered myself what the problem was - having no recollection of it from ppp.
was it from the sellout show ? or before.
I notice one of the other (AN) pieces from spacejunk sold...
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Heavyconsumer, fair play mate. He needs 3 - 5 years of maturity before "investors" would begin to show any interest imo. It is a very strong piece out of the Neate canon of work but will cause shockwaves amongst collectors of his work to date due to the previously experienced acceleration in value unless they are prepared to hold the work as his output and fanbase matures. Anyone who knows me knows how much of a Neate fan I am and this is difficult for me to say... it was definately not a strong Neate . It was not even in the same league as the majority of pieces in th PPP show, you would have to see it to know what I mean . It was small, the cardboard was very thin and the colours seemed a bit washed out. As a Neate collector I would not have considered buying it and I spoke to many people who felt the same way. In my eyes the man is a genius but this was not representative of his best work, it looked great in the catalogue but not in the flesh. The price bid for it I actually think was still very high for what it was. Thanks for your input skanky - don't recollect you speaking of late... I wondered myself what the problem was - having no recollection of it from ppp. was it from the sellout show ? or before. I notice one of the other (AN) pieces from spacejunk sold... .. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by guest2 on Apr 16, 2008 22:49:03 GMT 1, Strong or weak neate, did the guy pay anything like Β£37K for it originally? I would be interested to know the original selling price of the piece. I would guess a mighty profit could have been turned, but not knowing neate original prices, cant be sure
the neate reserve was 40k so I think it went unsold. The original price was probably 30k plus VAt and it was not from the PPP show. I'd guess it was sold late last year judging by the style. He did a series of these with the cluedo shoulders!
Strong or weak neate, did the guy pay anything like Β£37K for it originally? I would be interested to know the original selling price of the piece. I would guess a mighty profit could have been turned, but not knowing neate original prices, cant be sure the neate reserve was 40k so I think it went unsold. The original price was probably 30k plus VAt and it was not from the PPP show. I'd guess it was sold late last year judging by the style. He did a series of these with the cluedo shoulders! |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Va Va Voom on Apr 16, 2008 22:58:05 GMT 1, Strong or weak neate, did the guy pay anything like Β£37K for it originally? I would be interested to know the original selling price of the piece. I would guess a mighty profit could have been turned, but not knowing neate original prices, cant be sure
I agree with Skanky on this,we both attended the preview evening and were surprised and disappointed in the Neate.It was smaller than expected and having been painted on single skin cardboard looked rather "delicate".Normally to appreciate Adams work it has to be seen in the flesh,on this occasion the opposite applied.
And no the seller would not have made much of a profit at the hammer price,so maybe he /she regrets such a hasty sale.
Strong or weak neate, did the guy pay anything like Β£37K for it originally? I would be interested to know the original selling price of the piece. I would guess a mighty profit could have been turned, but not knowing neate original prices, cant be sure I agree with Skanky on this,we both attended the preview evening and were surprised and disappointed in the Neate.It was smaller than expected and having been painted on single skin cardboard looked rather "delicate".Normally to appreciate Adams work it has to be seen in the flesh,on this occasion the opposite applied. And no the seller would not have made much of a profit at the hammer price,so maybe he /she regrets such a hasty sale. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by EHC on Apr 16, 2008 22:58:25 GMT 1, Heavyconsumer, fair play mate. He needs 3 - 5 years of maturity before "investors" would begin to show any interest imo. It is a very strong piece out of the Neate canon of work but will cause shockwaves amongst collectors of his work to date due to the previously experienced acceleration in value unless they are prepared to hold the work as his output and fanbase matures. Anyone who knows me knows how much of a Neate fan I am and this is difficult for me to say... it was definately not a strong Neate . It was not even in the same league as the majority of pieces in th PPP show, you would have to see it to know what I mean . It was small, the cardboard was very thin and the colours seemed a bit washed out. As a Neate collector I would not have considered buying it and I spoke to many people who felt the same way. In my eyes the man is a genius but this was not representative of his best work, it looked great in the catalogue but not in the flesh. The price bid for it I actually think was still very high for what it was.
I thought it looked pretty nice in the pics and kind of surprised to hear that it looked worse in person. Usually its the other way around
Heavyconsumer, fair play mate. He needs 3 - 5 years of maturity before "investors" would begin to show any interest imo. It is a very strong piece out of the Neate canon of work but will cause shockwaves amongst collectors of his work to date due to the previously experienced acceleration in value unless they are prepared to hold the work as his output and fanbase matures. Anyone who knows me knows how much of a Neate fan I am and this is difficult for me to say... it was definately not a strong Neate . It was not even in the same league as the majority of pieces in th PPP show, you would have to see it to know what I mean . It was small, the cardboard was very thin and the colours seemed a bit washed out. As a Neate collector I would not have considered buying it and I spoke to many people who felt the same way. In my eyes the man is a genius but this was not representative of his best work, it looked great in the catalogue but not in the flesh. The price bid for it I actually think was still very high for what it was. I thought it looked pretty nice in the pics and kind of surprised to hear that it looked worse in person. Usually its the other way around |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by afroken on Apr 16, 2008 22:58:35 GMT 1, and if things haven't changed since the days I worked at Christies about 18 years ago, then the seller has to pay the seller's premium and listing fees even if a piece doesn't sell. In the case of this one, that'll be Β£6,000 plus a few hundred quid for the catalogue listing.
and if things haven't changed since the days I worked at Christies about 18 years ago, then the seller has to pay the seller's premium and listing fees even if a piece doesn't sell. In the case of this one, that'll be Β£6,000 plus a few hundred quid for the catalogue listing.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Va Va Voom on Apr 16, 2008 23:04:44 GMT 1, and if things haven't changed since the days I worked at Christies about 18 years ago, then the seller has to pay the seller's premium and listing fees even if a piece doesn't sell. In the case of this one, that'll be Β£6,000 plus a few hundred quid for the catalogue listing.
OUCH.......
and if things haven't changed since the days I worked at Christies about 18 years ago, then the seller has to pay the seller's premium and listing fees even if a piece doesn't sell. In the case of this one, that'll be Β£6,000 plus a few hundred quid for the catalogue listing. OUCH....... |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by guest2 on Apr 16, 2008 23:07:33 GMT 1, Anyone who knows me knows how much of a Neate fan I am and this is difficult for me to say... it was definately not a strong Neate . It was not even in the same league as the majority of pieces in th PPP show, you would have to see it to know what I mean . It was small, the cardboard was very thin and the colours seemed a bit washed out. As a Neate collector I would not have considered buying it and I spoke to many people who felt the same way. In my eyes the man is a genius but this was not representative of his best work, it looked great in the catalogue but not in the flesh. The price bid for it I actually think was still very high for what it was. I thought it looked pretty nice in the pics and kind of surprised to hear that it looked worse in person. Usually its the other way around
This def looked better in the online cat, a little worse in the actual cat and I never liked it at all in the flesh. The dude was as ugly as sin and looked a little too camp and the red was more reddy orange and on this thin floppy cardboard. And I didn't like the frame either!!
Now if it was this one it would have gone close to the 100k mark for sure!
Anyone who knows me knows how much of a Neate fan I am and this is difficult for me to say... it was definately not a strong Neate . It was not even in the same league as the majority of pieces in th PPP show, you would have to see it to know what I mean . It was small, the cardboard was very thin and the colours seemed a bit washed out. As a Neate collector I would not have considered buying it and I spoke to many people who felt the same way. In my eyes the man is a genius but this was not representative of his best work, it looked great in the catalogue but not in the flesh. The price bid for it I actually think was still very high for what it was. I thought it looked pretty nice in the pics and kind of surprised to hear that it looked worse in person. Usually its the other way around This def looked better in the online cat, a little worse in the actual cat and I never liked it at all in the flesh. The dude was as ugly as sin and looked a little too camp and the red was more reddy orange and on this thin floppy cardboard. And I didn't like the frame either!! Now if it was this one it would have gone close to the 100k mark for sure! |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Va Va Voom on Apr 16, 2008 23:21:28 GMT 1, 100k for that Athena poster...... 
Like the new cropping frankie,did you cut it out y,self..
100k for that Athena poster...... Like the new cropping frankie,did you cut it out y,self.. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by robinbanks on Apr 16, 2008 23:25:21 GMT 1, Just goes to show how subjective art can be. For me it was the stand out piece in the sale, alongside Think Tank. I thought it looked miles better in the flesh, and a lot better than the picture posted just previously on here.
Just goes to show how subjective art can be. For me it was the stand out piece in the sale, alongside Think Tank. I thought it looked miles better in the flesh, and a lot better than the picture posted just previously on here.
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by guest2 on Apr 16, 2008 23:27:30 GMT 1, Just goes to show how subjective art can be. For me it was the stand out piece in the sale, alongside Think Tank. I thought it looked miles better in the flesh, and a lot better than the picture posted just previously on here.
And then you woke up and fell outta bed.
Just goes to show how subjective art can be. For me it was the stand out piece in the sale, alongside Think Tank. I thought it looked miles better in the flesh, and a lot better than the picture posted just previously on here. And then you woke up and fell outta bed. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by guest2 on Apr 16, 2008 23:30:50 GMT 1, 100k for that Athena poster...... Like the new cropping frankie,did you cut it out y,self..
Yeah, I trimmed it and reframed it, looks much better than how Neate did it originally. Someone said I may have devalued it but I have kept the other bit in the cupboard just in case. It's all good 
100k for that Athena poster...... Like the new cropping frankie,did you cut it out y,self.. Yeah, I trimmed it and reframed it, looks much better than how Neate did it originally. Someone said I may have devalued it but I have kept the other bit in the cupboard just in case. It's all good |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by robinbanks on Apr 16, 2008 23:34:16 GMT 1, Just goes to show how subjective art can be. For me it was the stand out piece in the sale, alongside Think Tank. I thought it looked miles better in the flesh, and a lot better than the picture posted just previously on here. And then you woke up and fell outta bed.
Nope, just my opinion mate.
Just goes to show how subjective art can be. For me it was the stand out piece in the sale, alongside Think Tank. I thought it looked miles better in the flesh, and a lot better than the picture posted just previously on here. And then you woke up and fell outta bed. Nope, just my opinion mate. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Va Va Voom on Apr 16, 2008 23:36:28 GMT 1, 100k for that Athena poster...... Like the new cropping frankie,did you cut it out y,self.. Yeah, I trimmed it and reframed it, looks much better than how Neate did it originally. Someone said I may have devalued it but I have kept the other bit in the cupboard just in case. It's all good
A grand for his shoulders.....
100k for that Athena poster...... Like the new cropping frankie,did you cut it out y,self.. Yeah, I trimmed it and reframed it, looks much better than how Neate did it originally. Someone said I may have devalued it but I have kept the other bit in the cupboard just in case. It's all good A grand for his shoulders..... |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by guest2 on Apr 16, 2008 23:37:02 GMT 1, And then you woke up and fell outta bed. Nope, just my opinion mate.
I'm just kidding But you're wrong! But then thats my opinion  Actually, I agree with you ... it's all subjective But you are wrong!!! ;D
And then you woke up and fell outta bed. Nope, just my opinion mate. I'm just kidding But you're wrong! But then thats my opinion Actually, I agree with you ... it's all subjective But you are wrong!!! ;D |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Va Va Voom on Apr 16, 2008 23:38:05 GMT 1, And then you woke up and fell outta bed. Nope, just my opinion mate.
I am with you on this one........ ;D
And then you woke up and fell outta bed. Nope, just my opinion mate. I am with you on this one........ ;D |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by guest2 on Apr 16, 2008 23:41:14 GMT 1, Yeah, I trimmed it and reframed it, looks much better than how Neate did it originally. Someone said I may have devalued it but I have kept the other bit in the cupboard just in case. It's all good A grand for his shoulders.....
You can have this bit for a grand
and I have 99 more bits left
Yeah, I trimmed it and reframed it, looks much better than how Neate did it originally. Someone said I may have devalued it but I have kept the other bit in the cupboard just in case. It's all good A grand for his shoulders..... You can have this bit for a grand and I have 99 more bits left |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by robinbanks on Apr 16, 2008 23:43:01 GMT 1, Nope, just my opinion mate. I'm just kidding But you're wrong! But then thats my opinion Actually, I agree with you ... it's all subjective But you are wrong!!! ;D
Yeah, I know ya are 
To be honest I probably haven't seen enough examples of Neate's work to be able to say what his best is. All I know is that when I saw that particular piece it knocked my socks off.
Nope, just my opinion mate. I'm just kidding But you're wrong! But then thats my opinion Actually, I agree with you ... it's all subjective But you are wrong!!! ;D Yeah, I know ya are To be honest I probably haven't seen enough examples of Neate's work to be able to say what his best is. All I know is that when I saw that particular piece it knocked my socks off. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by guest2 on Apr 16, 2008 23:53:37 GMT 1, I'm just kidding But you're wrong! But then thats my opinion Actually, I agree with you ... it's all subjective But you are wrong!!! ;D Yeah, I know ya are To be honest I probably haven't seen enough examples of Neate's work to be able to say what his best is. All I know is that when I saw that particular piece it knocked my socks off.
The show should be good. make sure you get on the preview. Always a fun time at Elms too.
I'm just kidding But you're wrong! But then thats my opinion Actually, I agree with you ... it's all subjective But you are wrong!!! ;D Yeah, I know ya are To be honest I probably haven't seen enough examples of Neate's work to be able to say what his best is. All I know is that when I saw that particular piece it knocked my socks off. The show should be good. make sure you get on the preview. Always a fun time at Elms too. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by robinbanks on Apr 17, 2008 0:01:21 GMT 1, Yeah, I know ya are To be honest I probably haven't seen enough examples of Neate's work to be able to say what his best is. All I know is that when I saw that particular piece it knocked my socks off. The show should be good. make sure you get on the preview. Always a fun time at Elms too.
I certainly shall. Looking forward to that one - thinking it will be a bit more civilised than tomorrow nights affair at BRP.
Yeah, I know ya are To be honest I probably haven't seen enough examples of Neate's work to be able to say what his best is. All I know is that when I saw that particular piece it knocked my socks off. The show should be good. make sure you get on the preview. Always a fun time at Elms too. I certainly shall. Looking forward to that one - thinking it will be a bit more civilised than tomorrow nights affair at BRP. |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by Va Va Voom on Apr 17, 2008 0:01:27 GMT 1, A grand for his shoulders..... You can have this bit for a grand and I have 99 more bits left
Not keen on the colouring in that ,can i see the others as I am genuinely interested...
A grand for his shoulders..... You can have this bit for a grand and I have 99 more bits left Not keen on the colouring in that ,can i see the others as I am genuinely interested... |
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by jonpud on Apr 22, 2008 13:53:42 GMT 1, Lot 45 'The Seargent' was available on Nick's website for over a year, I considered it on several occasions at Β£2k but the colours didn't do it for me, then I struck a deal with Harveyn for a blue version!
It's fucking mental that this should now find it's place in an auction instead of sitting on someone's wall!!
I have to say there is a good cross section of Walkers work at the auction, London MA, Apish Angel (seargent), Moona Lisa and Nikers. Will be interesting to see the results!!
Lot 45 'The Seargent' was available on Nick's website for over a year, I considered it on several occasions at Β£2k but the colours didn't do it for me, then I struck a deal with Harveyn for a blue version!
It's fucking mental that this should now find it's place in an auction instead of sitting on someone's wall!!
I have to say there is a good cross section of Walkers work at the auction, London MA, Apish Angel (seargent), Moona Lisa and Nikers. Will be interesting to see the results!!
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by ricosg11 on Apr 22, 2008 15:06:17 GMT 1, nice faile box in there too
nice faile box in there too
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by mred on Apr 22, 2008 16:53:12 GMT 1, It weird how quite a few pieces seem to go from Nick's studio almost directly to auction sales, obviously people must think there is money to be made which is shame as it is pushing up prices for normal people who would love his work on their walls.
As you say PUD's be interesting to see what sort of prices they make in NY?
It weird how quite a few pieces seem to go from Nick's studio almost directly to auction sales, obviously people must think there is money to be made which is shame as it is pushing up prices for normal people who would love his work on their walls.
As you say PUD's be interesting to see what sort of prices they make in NY?
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Bonhams β’ Art Auctions β’ London π¬π§, by tomjedimaster on Apr 22, 2008 18:10:23 GMT 1, Lot 45 'The Seargent' was available on Nick's website for over a year, I considered it on several occasions at Β£2k but the colours didn't do it for me, then I struck a deal with Harveyn for a blue version!
i never liked it either
Lot 45 'The Seargent' was available on Nick's website for over a year, I considered it on several occasions at Β£2k but the colours didn't do it for me, then I struck a deal with Harveyn for a blue version! i never liked it either |
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Actually, I agree with you ... it's all subjective 
