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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by BASARTS on Dec 6, 2020 9:01:04 GMT 1, Why bother if 3k is not a lot to you? I think he said the opposite BUMMER... my bad. I apologize... did not read carefully enough. Thanks for knocking!
Why bother if 3k is not a lot to you? I think he said the opposite BUMMER... my bad. I apologize... did not read carefully enough. Thanks for knocking!
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by sfnyc on Dec 6, 2020 9:09:27 GMT 1, Love these stories that don't share the culprits name so others can't share proper advice and can get scammed too by the same person.
Edit: Upon privately conversing with OP, I can understand why he doesn't want to share this name publicly.
Love these stories that don't share the culprits name so others can't share proper advice and can get scammed too by the same person.
Edit: Upon privately conversing with OP, I can understand why he doesn't want to share this name publicly.
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by iamzero on Dec 6, 2020 9:35:31 GMT 1, Does this person have a bald head?
Does this person have a bald head?
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Lord Lucas Roham on Dec 6, 2020 9:45:07 GMT 1, No point in venting without giving more details. Utterly futile. Post the expectation V reality photographs at least. No need to name names, we can work it out.
No point in venting without giving more details. Utterly futile. Post the expectation V reality photographs at least. No need to name names, we can work it out.
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Morfx on Dec 6, 2020 9:47:01 GMT 1, Does he kinda talk funny?
Does he kinda talk funny?
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by iamzero on Dec 6, 2020 10:03:37 GMT 1, Does this person have a beard?
Does this person have a beard?
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Morfx
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Morfx on Dec 6, 2020 10:09:23 GMT 1, Which one is it??
Which one is it??
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Hairbland on Dec 6, 2020 10:11:56 GMT 1, Mary Boone Gallery NYC did this to Alec Baldwin, I think artist Brice Martin. Baldwin sued and won. Got his money back and damages.
Mary Boone Gallery NYC did this to Alec Baldwin, I think artist Brice Martin. Baldwin sued and won. Got his money back and damages.
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Rubberneck on Dec 6, 2020 10:14:25 GMT 1, Thatโs Grayson Perry top right
Thatโs Grayson Perry top right
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by iamzero on Dec 6, 2020 10:18:41 GMT 1, Is it Richard?
Is it Richard?
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by churchwood on Dec 6, 2020 10:18:58 GMT 1, Thatโs Grayson Perry top right
And also Tom and Joe Haring too
Thatโs Grayson Perry top right And also Tom and Joe Haring too
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Morfx
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Morfx on Dec 6, 2020 10:35:57 GMT 1, but with tattoos I'm guessing..
but with tattoos I'm guessing..
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by claret on Dec 6, 2020 10:55:57 GMT 1, Did this even happen? A post with no details and your livid?
Did this even happen? A post with no details and your livid?
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iamzero
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by iamzero on Dec 6, 2020 11:13:06 GMT 1, I look at these sort of posts in the same way as the generic Facebook posts that say โWhy are people such arseholesโ Whatโs wrong Hun are you ok? โI donโt want to talk about it.โ
It isnโt really helpful not naming the culprit as the artist members are speculating on, that has previous form for this behaviour my not be involved at all.
I look at these sort of posts in the same way as the generic Facebook posts that say โWhy are people such arseholesโ Whatโs wrong Hun are you ok? โI donโt want to talk about it.โ
It isnโt really helpful not naming the culprit as the artist members are speculating on, that has previous form for this behaviour my not be involved at all.
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by .dappy on Dec 6, 2020 11:21:33 GMT 1, ... you weren't 'told' about the piece that you were getting ... you were sent a picture ...
... I would write a short sentence along the lines of ... :Hi there, you have made a mistake, this is not the same piece that you sent me a photograph of? ...
... no other words or lengthy paragraphs ...
... not 'I think you have made ...' and/or 'there appears to be some differences ...'
... you might as well get everything out in the opening communication ...
... they are taking the pรฏss ...
... you weren't 'told' about the piece that you were getting ... you were sent a picture ...
... I would write a short sentence along the lines of ... :Hi there, you have made a mistake, this is not the same piece that you sent me a photograph of? ...
... no other words or lengthy paragraphs ...
... not 'I think you have made ...' and/or 'there appears to be some differences ...'
... you might as well get everything out in the opening communication ...
... they are taking the pรฏss ...
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by cmc on Dec 6, 2020 11:24:20 GMT 1, Dappys right. They didn't sell what they said they would? They have no defense.
Dappys right. They didn't sell what they said they would? They have no defense.
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Dive Jedi
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Dive Jedi on Dec 6, 2020 11:55:20 GMT 1, I'm in the NYC area and purchased an "original" from a VERY well known street artist. The cost was not huge, but into the 3k range, which is a lot for me. After getting a picture via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep), I said I'll take it. Happy. 2 weeks later I received the canvas. It's "close" to what I was sent picture wise, but it also lacks details that are so noticeable from the picture I was sent. Not even close in my eyes. So, I thought, was told, I was buying an original, and the f'ng thing seems to be a quick re-make of the piece I was told I was purchasing. It's a REALLY cool piece. I'd hate to jump on a sword and get into any big dick contest, but... I'm so unhappy they pulled this on me. I can't out the artist, not my thing. So you are not even sure who you are dealing with? "via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep)"
Did you already contact them? Or did you go straight to the UAA to complain ?
I'm not even sure why I'm responding.... You're not asking for advice.
You just made a statement here. You're unhappy.
Congrats with your new canvas! There's a "Latest Art Buy"-thread here. Looking forward to see it!
I'm in the NYC area and purchased an "original" from a VERY well known street artist. The cost was not huge, but into the 3k range, which is a lot for me. After getting a picture via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep), I said I'll take it. Happy. 2 weeks later I received the canvas. It's "close" to what I was sent picture wise, but it also lacks details that are so noticeable from the picture I was sent. Not even close in my eyes. So, I thought, was told, I was buying an original, and the f'ng thing seems to be a quick re-make of the piece I was told I was purchasing. It's a REALLY cool piece. I'd hate to jump on a sword and get into any big dick contest, but... I'm so unhappy they pulled this on me. I can't out the artist, not my thing. So you are not even sure who you are dealing with? "via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep)" Did you already contact them? Or did you go straight to the UAA to complain ? I'm not even sure why I'm responding.... You're not asking for advice. You just made a statement here. You're unhappy. Congrats with your new canvas! There's a "Latest Art Buy"-thread here. Looking forward to see it!
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by avec art on Dec 6, 2020 11:56:49 GMT 1, the original was probably already sold or damaged but they didn't want to lose the sale
the original was probably already sold or damaged but they didn't want to lose the sale
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Segment on Dec 6, 2020 12:33:18 GMT 1, Pics,, or it didn't happen!
Pics,, or it didn't happen!
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Steph Rat Catcher on Dec 6, 2020 12:34:10 GMT 1, Brv so will tottenham fans later so donโt worry ๐
Brv so will tottenham fans later so donโt worry ๐
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Criminal Mischief on Dec 6, 2020 13:15:59 GMT 1, I've had a similar experience. A well-known (arguably legendary) artist started producing small editions a couple years ago. I love their work and wanted to support, so I purchased a piece pre-sale. It's now going on 2 years and the edition still hasn't been produced or delivered. So frustrating and disappointing.
I've had a similar experience. A well-known (arguably legendary) artist started producing small editions a couple years ago. I love their work and wanted to support, so I purchased a piece pre-sale. It's now going on 2 years and the edition still hasn't been produced or delivered. So frustrating and disappointing.
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by timmundo on Dec 6, 2020 15:24:22 GMT 1, Purchased from the artist site. Called. Sent texts. Sent messages via IG. No response. Then bitched out loud to UAA.
I'm in the NYC area and purchased an "original" from a VERY well known street artist. The cost was not huge, but into the 3k range, which is a lot for me.ย After getting a picture via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep), I said I'll take it. Happy. 2 weeks later I received the canvas. It's "close" to what I was sent picture wise, but it also lacks details that are so noticeable from the picture I was sent. Not even close in my eyes. So, I thought, was told, I was buying an original, and the f'ng thing seems to be a quick re-make of the piece I was told I was purchasing. It's a REALLY cool piece. I'd hate to jump on a sword and get into any big dick contest, but... I'm so unhappy they pulled this on me. I can't out the artist, not my thing.ย So you are not even sure who you are dealing with? "via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep)" Did you already contact them? Or did you go straight to the UAA to complain ? I'm not even sure why I'm responding.... You're not asking for advice. You just made a statement here. You're unhappy. Congrats with your new canvas! There's a "Latest Art Buy"-thread here. Looking forward to see it!
Purchased from the artist site. Called. Sent texts. Sent messages via IG. No response. Then bitched out loud to UAA. I'm in the NYC area and purchased an "original" from a VERY well known street artist. The cost was not huge, but into the 3k range, which is a lot for me.ย After getting a picture via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep), I said I'll take it. Happy. 2 weeks later I received the canvas. It's "close" to what I was sent picture wise, but it also lacks details that are so noticeable from the picture I was sent. Not even close in my eyes. So, I thought, was told, I was buying an original, and the f'ng thing seems to be a quick re-make of the piece I was told I was purchasing. It's a REALLY cool piece. I'd hate to jump on a sword and get into any big dick contest, but... I'm so unhappy they pulled this on me. I can't out the artist, not my thing.ย So you are not even sure who you are dealing with? "via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep)" Did you already contact them? Or did you go straight to the UAA to complain ? I'm not even sure why I'm responding.... You're not asking for advice. You just made a statement here. You're unhappy. Congrats with your new canvas! There's a "Latest Art Buy"-thread here. Looking forward to see it!
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by timmundo on Dec 6, 2020 15:30:13 GMT 1, Love these stories that don't share the culprits name so others can't share proper advice and can get scammed too by the same person.
Iโd happily share If you asked privately.
Love these stories that don't share the culprits name so others can't share proper advice and can get scammed too by the same person. Iโd happily share If you asked privately.
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Dive Jedi
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Dive Jedi on Dec 6, 2020 15:35:32 GMT 1, Purchased from the artist site. Called. Sent texts. Sent messages via IG. No response. Then bitched out loud to UAA. So you are not even sure who you are dealing with? "via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep)" Did you already contact them? Or did you go straight to the UAA to complain ? I'm not even sure why I'm responding.... You're not asking for advice. You just made a statement here. You're unhappy. Congrats with your new canvas! There's a "Latest Art Buy"-thread here. Looking forward to see it! Well, if you paid by Paypal or Credit Card just start a claim.
They send you the wrong or a different item. Could be an honest mistake - or a deliberate attempt to mislead you.
Since they do not respond to your messages, I would guess it's the latter.
In case you paid by bank transfer or PP F&F there is no way to get your money back without their actions. So if they keep ignoring you, naming and shaming would be the next step.
Good for you it's not your style. But don't get f#cked over for 3K.....
Purchased from the artist site. Called. Sent texts. Sent messages via IG. No response. Then bitched out loud to UAA. So you are not even sure who you are dealing with? "via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep)" Did you already contact them? Or did you go straight to the UAA to complain ? I'm not even sure why I'm responding.... You're not asking for advice. You just made a statement here. You're unhappy. Congrats with your new canvas! There's a "Latest Art Buy"-thread here. Looking forward to see it! Well, if you paid by Paypal or Credit Card just start a claim. They send you the wrong or a different item. Could be an honest mistake - or a deliberate attempt to mislead you. Since they do not respond to your messages, I would guess it's the latter. In case you paid by bank transfer or PP F&F there is no way to get your money back without their actions. So if they keep ignoring you, naming and shaming would be the next step. Good for you it's not your style. But don't get f#cked over for 3K.....
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Terry Fuckwitt on Dec 6, 2020 15:42:48 GMT 1, If you don't get anywhere with it by private messages, post up on his/your social media accounts with plenty of hashtags.
If you don't get anywhere with it by private messages, post up on his/your social media accounts with plenty of hashtags.
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by soupy on Dec 6, 2020 15:42:54 GMT 1, thread of the year
thread of the year
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by iamzero on Dec 6, 2020 15:50:11 GMT 1, Is it Ben Eine?
Is it Ben Eine?
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Steph Rat Catcher on Dec 6, 2020 15:52:14 GMT 1, Is it mason storm? Donโt worry the other 3 bits are coming
Is it mason storm? Donโt worry the other 3 bits are coming
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by ADC on Dec 6, 2020 15:53:42 GMT 1,
I was going to ask the same..
I was going to ask the same..
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Ravnur 2020 on Dec 6, 2020 16:06:59 GMT 1, I'm in the NYC area and purchased an "original" from a VERY well known street artist. The cost was not huge, but into the 3k range, which is a lot for me.ย After getting a picture via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep), I said I'll take it. Happy. 2 weeks later I received the canvas. It's "close" to what I was sent picture wise, but it also lacks details that are so noticeable from the picture I was sent. Not even close in my eyes. So, I thought, was told, I was buying an original, and the f'ng thing seems to be a quick re-make of the piece I was told I was purchasing. It's a REALLY cool piece. I'd hate to jump on a sword and get into any big dick contest, but... I'm so unhappy they pulled this on me. I can't out the artist, not my thing.ย
Well if your piece was handmade it is an original! Artists make variations of the same piece all the time and they are all originals.
I understand very well that you are upset about not getting what you were shown and there seems to have been some very bad communication from the artists side here and they need to up their game. I hope you can sort it out with them personally and to your satisfaction. I think public naming and shaming for matters like this is very distasteful and as is getting the lynch mob out by fuelling all this speculation. All the best of luck!
I'm in the NYC area and purchased an "original" from a VERY well known street artist. The cost was not huge, but into the 3k range, which is a lot for me.ย After getting a picture via text from the artist (or someone close to/rep), I said I'll take it. Happy. 2 weeks later I received the canvas. It's "close" to what I was sent picture wise, but it also lacks details that are so noticeable from the picture I was sent. Not even close in my eyes. So, I thought, was told, I was buying an original, and the f'ng thing seems to be a quick re-make of the piece I was told I was purchasing. It's a REALLY cool piece. I'd hate to jump on a sword and get into any big dick contest, but... I'm so unhappy they pulled this on me. I can't out the artist, not my thing.ย Well if your piece was handmade it is an original! Artists make variations of the same piece all the time and they are all originals. I understand very well that you are upset about not getting what you were shown and there seems to have been some very bad communication from the artists side here and they need to up their game. I hope you can sort it out with them personally and to your satisfaction. I think public naming and shaming for matters like this is very distasteful and as is getting the lynch mob out by fuelling all this speculation. All the best of luck!
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