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I assume, because you have juxtaposed a chart of YoY growth and your question of "who to trade with" that you are implying that in some way the chart informs the answer to the question ?


If so please explain de maths, I would live to understand what you are concluding from this !

Why would a Brexited UK want to do business with China?

It was cheap Chinese made goods imported by greedy mainly fat middle men which put a lot of UK manufacturors out of business. Also slave labour made goods in the former colonies India Pakistan etc.

If the UK saves 350 million a week, the money could be used to create startup and new British business like a UK silicon valley and also Uk could just convert to a tax haven and give benefits to highly taxed EU companies.

Plus bring back door to door milk deliveries and electric milk cars.

Just out of interest I'm keen to know how true are the rumours of a media blackout of all the fighting and violence supposedly happening in Europe is. I'm seeing many videos of supposedly migrant people attacking cars and trucks but have no way if verifying the truth behind them?

Many times on the TV debates I have seen people say about how we should be in the EU so our young generation has the freedom to go out into Europe to find work errrrrr yeah, ok.

Big fan of Stuart Lee, thanks!!!  His comedy vehicle is very funny.  Do you know "the one about the Man and the Ant"?

Sounds like a great opportunity. Especially as there are several countries with lower youth unemployment rates than the UK. Living in a different country always lowers narrow-mindedness and nationalism. 

Admittedly I'm not following politics and news too closely at the moment since I increasingly perceive it as constant manipulation, a bit up to date by the info what they give on the radio which I still regularly listen to. It's the first time I hear of supposedly migrant people attacking cars and trucks in Europe.
It would be very interesting to me personally what the story is across Europe...we should have members from pretty much every country in Europe on this board and I would be very interested in hearing about other personal perceptions and experiences.

From my personal experience...I do life in a small village with around 3000 inhabitants and we do have around 20 to 25 refugees here. Only doubtful experience I made myself was that one guy was collecting money for him and his family to travel back home. I was given the info afterwards that German government pays the money for those who want to go back home. However the refugee might not have been aware of that or simply was very cheeky. Not aware of any local problems with the situation but I'm getting a hair cut tomorrow so will know then...lol
I know that the community here organises thing like coffee and tee for the refugees to meet the local people, also trips and excursions to the surrounding areas, hikes within the countryside...and these events are happily received by the refugees even though they can't fill out their days completely. The village council did write out two jobs (basically unpaid by the way according to German law) for the refugees to help within the community which was very well perceived by the refugees so they had do to a lottery for the jobs.
Anyhow, jabbering away a little bit...basically the refugee situation does not sound too scary over here and is not experienced as such at all. We had around one million refugees in Germany just last year and locally it works very well though there is one right wing party growing in popularity down to the scared ones with the situation in Germany.
I also have insight into the nearer area which includes a city of 250.000 people where a much higher number of refugees is located and no incident like attacked cars or trucks came to my knowledge. People would certainly talk about it constantly if there where bigger issues in the area.
The only major incident I'm aware of was one on new years eve where a group of refugees insulted and harassed women in Cologne. That incident was openly in the media though.

I'm fully aware that with bigger numbers of refugees in one place totally different issues appear and much much higher efforts for integration are needed and the process certainly will be more difficult and will take longer.
You hear about troubles withing refugee location constantly where hundreds of people are crowded on small spaces. Obviously this is down to different religions, believes and rivalries from aboard between countries...and the lack of having something to do. One could argue that it is unlucky to put so different people together in one place, others could argue that it is part of the integration process. However media seems to be a tricky area to deal with these days so I hope that giving my personal insight from over here in Germany might be of interest to some. Obviously it is not representative for all of Germany.


Anyhow, this is about the UK referendum...it just appeared to me that the refugee crisis might be used by some over in the UK...supposedly to trying to support those who want to force the exit of the UK from the EU. As usual just my humble opinion though...

Thanks for posting this video iamzero despite it showing terrible events. Personally I can not identify any of the people as Muslims or immigrants but since this happened supposedly in Germany (it definitely could be by the looks of it from cars, streets and surrounding) I will try to inquire about the event.

I've not watched it but any violence towards any human being without an ounce of ........... (I struggle for words)


I don't want to be exposed to shit like this, I do have a right to not watch it and I've used it, but I'd rather it wasn't on the forum.

I agree dude and if its offensive then please feel free to remove it... But. How can we make true and honest judgements if we as voters are not told what is happening (assuming it is true) ? Turning a blind eye or burying our heads isn't helping.

I'm wary of these things as I have a close friend who was working in Dubai for timeout magazine at the time when they claimed people were deserting the country and leaving their cars at the airport. This was all media created and journalists were writing fictional notes left on people's windscreens to get a story. Anything for a story.

Fully aware that this could be media created or propaganda to incite hatred towards migrants. Never stop asking questions.