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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by FЯ on Nov 3, 2016 12:17:41 GMT 1, Hugely important constitutional case heard by the Divisional Court today. Application has been upheld. The government cannot invoke Article 50 without a vote and approval by parliament. Reason appears to be based (in part) on the fact the referendum is advisory, and therefore, I assume, cannot override parliamentary sovereignty. I understand that leave to appeal has been granted.
I said this a while back here:
People are kidding themselves anyway if they think voting will make any difference. any result still has to be approved by the house of commons and they would 100% block leaving anyway just giving the monkeys a feeling that they are having some say.
Theresa May must be loving this, no more pressure on her to do anything...
'Sorry everyone, we tried' 
They will take it to the surpreme court next though on appeal. Then see what they do.
Just for clarity i voted remain.
Hugely important constitutional case heard by the Divisional Court today. Application has been upheld. The government cannot invoke Article 50 without a vote and approval by parliament. Reason appears to be based (in part) on the fact the referendum is advisory, and therefore, I assume, cannot override parliamentary sovereignty. I understand that leave to appeal has been granted. I said this a while back here: People are kidding themselves anyway if they think voting will make any difference. any result still has to be approved by the house of commons and they would 100% block leaving anyway just giving the monkeys a feeling that they are having some say. Theresa May must be loving this, no more pressure on her to do anything... 'Sorry everyone, we tried' They will take it to the surpreme court next though on appeal. Then see what they do. Just for clarity i voted remain. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Sturban Has Saggy Tits on Nov 3, 2016 12:45:32 GMT 1, Hugely important constitutional case heard by the Divisional Court today. Application has been upheld. The government cannot invoke Article 50 without a vote and approval by parliament. Reason appears to be based (in part) on the fact the referendum is advisory, and therefore, I assume, cannot override parliamentary sovereignty. I understand that leave to appeal has been granted. I said this a while back here: People are kidding themselves anyway if they think voting will make any difference. any result still has to be approved by the house of commons and they would 100% block leaving anyway just giving the monkeys a feeling that they are having some say. Theresa May must be loving this, no more pressure on her to do anything... 'Sorry everyone, we tried' They will take it to the surpreme court next though on appeal. Then see what they do. Just for clarity i voted remain.
You could have at least made a quick phone call to Theresa May and saved us the embarrassment and billions its cost us so far.
#fuckwits
Hugely important constitutional case heard by the Divisional Court today. Application has been upheld. The government cannot invoke Article 50 without a vote and approval by parliament. Reason appears to be based (in part) on the fact the referendum is advisory, and therefore, I assume, cannot override parliamentary sovereignty. I understand that leave to appeal has been granted. I said this a while back here: People are kidding themselves anyway if they think voting will make any difference. any result still has to be approved by the house of commons and they would 100% block leaving anyway just giving the monkeys a feeling that they are having some say. Theresa May must be loving this, no more pressure on her to do anything... 'Sorry everyone, we tried' They will take it to the surpreme court next though on appeal. Then see what they do. Just for clarity i voted remain. You could have at least made a quick phone call to Theresa May and saved us the embarrassment and billions its cost us so far. #fuckwits |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Nov 3, 2016 12:53:42 GMT 1, Hugely important constitutional case heard by the Divisional Court today. Application has been upheld. The government cannot invoke Article 50 without a vote and approval by parliament. Reason appears to be based (in part) on the fact the referendum is advisory, and therefore, I assume, cannot override parliamentary sovereignty. I understand that leave to appeal has been granted. I said this a while back here: People are kidding themselves anyway if they think voting will make any difference. any result still has to be approved by the house of commons and they would 100% block leaving anyway just giving the monkeys a feeling that they are having some say. Theresa May must be loving this, no more pressure on her to do anything... 'Sorry everyone, we tried' They will take it to the surpreme court next though on appeal. Then see what they do. Just for clarity i voted remain.
It's genuinely interesting. As you say, we will have to await the outcome of the appeal. I understand that a leapfrog appeal has been allowed, straight to the Supreme Court, cutting out the Court of Appeal. I also understand that it will be fast tracked (December I think).
If the decision is upheld, that's when it gets interesting.
My recollection is that a majority of mp's were in favour of remain.
If so, will they vote what they think is right. Or will those mp's from constituencies that voted leave feel either honour bound to vote leave, or vote leave for fear of not being re-selected/voted in again at the next election?
Will the government allow a free vote or will it be a three line whip to vote leave?
Time will tell.
Hugely important constitutional case heard by the Divisional Court today. Application has been upheld. The government cannot invoke Article 50 without a vote and approval by parliament. Reason appears to be based (in part) on the fact the referendum is advisory, and therefore, I assume, cannot override parliamentary sovereignty. I understand that leave to appeal has been granted. I said this a while back here: People are kidding themselves anyway if they think voting will make any difference. any result still has to be approved by the house of commons and they would 100% block leaving anyway just giving the monkeys a feeling that they are having some say. Theresa May must be loving this, no more pressure on her to do anything... 'Sorry everyone, we tried' They will take it to the surpreme court next though on appeal. Then see what they do. Just for clarity i voted remain. It's genuinely interesting. As you say, we will have to await the outcome of the appeal. I understand that a leapfrog appeal has been allowed, straight to the Supreme Court, cutting out the Court of Appeal. I also understand that it will be fast tracked (December I think). If the decision is upheld, that's when it gets interesting. My recollection is that a majority of mp's were in favour of remain. If so, will they vote what they think is right. Or will those mp's from constituencies that voted leave feel either honour bound to vote leave, or vote leave for fear of not being re-selected/voted in again at the next election? Will the government allow a free vote or will it be a three line whip to vote leave? Time will tell. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Dr Plip on Nov 3, 2016 12:57:42 GMT 1, I said this a while back here: Theresa May must be loving this, no more pressure on her to do anything... 'Sorry everyone, we tried' They will take it to the surpreme court next though on appeal. Then see what they do. Just for clarity i voted remain. It's genuinely interesting. As you say, we will have to await the outcome of the appeal. I understand that a leapfrog appeal has been allowed, straight to the Supreme Court, cutting out the Court of Appeal. I also understand that it will be fast tracked (December I think). If the decision is upheld, that's when it gets interesting. My recollection is that a majority of mp's were in favour of remain. If so, will they vote what they think is right. Or will those mp's from constituencies that voted leave feel either honour bound to vote leave, or vote leave for fear of not being re-selected/voted in again at the next election? Will the government allow a free vote or will it be a three line whip to vote leave? Time will tell. Only Scotland and the SNP can save us from Murdoch's dastardly plan.
Edit: And I never thought I'd type those words.
I said this a while back here: Theresa May must be loving this, no more pressure on her to do anything... 'Sorry everyone, we tried' They will take it to the surpreme court next though on appeal. Then see what they do. Just for clarity i voted remain. It's genuinely interesting. As you say, we will have to await the outcome of the appeal. I understand that a leapfrog appeal has been allowed, straight to the Supreme Court, cutting out the Court of Appeal. I also understand that it will be fast tracked (December I think). If the decision is upheld, that's when it gets interesting. My recollection is that a majority of mp's were in favour of remain. If so, will they vote what they think is right. Or will those mp's from constituencies that voted leave feel either honour bound to vote leave, or vote leave for fear of not being re-selected/voted in again at the next election? Will the government allow a free vote or will it be a three line whip to vote leave? Time will tell. Only Scotland and the SNP can save us from Murdoch's dastardly plan.
Edit: And I never thought I'd type those words.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Nov 3, 2016 18:14:13 GMT 1, It's genuinely interesting. As you say, we will have to await the outcome of the appeal. I understand that a leapfrog appeal has been allowed, straight to the Supreme Court, cutting out the Court of Appeal. I also understand that it will be fast tracked (December I think). If the decision is upheld, that's when it gets interesting. My recollection is that a majority of mp's were in favour of remain. If so, will they vote what they think is right. Or will those mp's from constituencies that voted leave feel either honour bound to vote leave, or vote leave for fear of not being re-selected/voted in again at the next election? Will the government allow a free vote or will it be a three line whip to vote leave? Time will tell. Only Scotland and the SNP can save us from Murdoch's dastardly plan.
Edit: And I never thought I'd type those words.
Apart from deep fried mars bars, we do come in handy occassionally 
It's genuinely interesting. As you say, we will have to await the outcome of the appeal. I understand that a leapfrog appeal has been allowed, straight to the Supreme Court, cutting out the Court of Appeal. I also understand that it will be fast tracked (December I think). If the decision is upheld, that's when it gets interesting. My recollection is that a majority of mp's were in favour of remain. If so, will they vote what they think is right. Or will those mp's from constituencies that voted leave feel either honour bound to vote leave, or vote leave for fear of not being re-selected/voted in again at the next election? Will the government allow a free vote or will it be a three line whip to vote leave? Time will tell. Only Scotland and the SNP can save us from Murdoch's dastardly plan.
Edit: And I never thought I'd type those words.
Apart from deep fried mars bars, we do come in handy occassionally |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Dr Plip on Nov 3, 2016 18:18:57 GMT 1, Only Scotland and the SNP can save us from Murdoch's dastardly plan.
Edit: And I never thought I'd type those words.
Apart from deep fried mars bars, we do come in handy occassionally I love you and all your people. Save us.
Edit: I feel I can speak for all of the English and Cornish when I say that we're sorry about the whole invasion thing.
Only Scotland and the SNP can save us from Murdoch's dastardly plan.
Edit: And I never thought I'd type those words.
Apart from deep fried mars bars, we do come in handy occassionally I love you and all your people. Save us.
Edit: I feel I can speak for all of the English and Cornish when I say that we're sorry about the whole invasion thing.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Dr Plip on Nov 3, 2016 18:23:11 GMT 1, Don't tell anyone, but if "Article Economic Suicide 50" is triggered, there's a bit of me that wants Scotland and Northern Ireland to gain their independence.
Wales can stay right the f*ck where they are though.
Don't tell anyone, but if "Article Economic Suicide 50" is triggered, there's a bit of me that wants Scotland and Northern Ireland to gain their independence.
Wales can stay right the f*ck where they are though. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Hubble Bubble on Nov 3, 2016 18:50:55 GMT 1, FFS... enough of all this... I've got used to us being out. Let's get on with it. It's like breaking up with a girlfriend you love, I don't want to have to go through all that pain again.
FFS... enough of all this... I've got used to us being out. Let's get on with it. It's like breaking up with a girlfriend you love, I don't want to have to go through all that pain again.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by FЯ on Nov 3, 2016 18:52:46 GMT 1, FFS... enough of all this... I've got used to us being out. Let's get on with it. It's like breaking up with a girlfriend you love, I don't want to have to go through all that pain again.
I compared it to when you leave a room full of people, telling them to fuck off and slam the door.
Then have to come back into the room to get the bag you forgot.
Embarrassing for the country really.
FFS... enough of all this... I've got used to us being out. Let's get on with it. It's like breaking up with a girlfriend you love, I don't want to have to go through all that pain again. I compared it to when you leave a room full of people, telling them to fuck off and slam the door. Then have to come back into the room to get the bag you forgot. Embarrassing for the country really. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by rgc on Nov 3, 2016 18:58:34 GMT 1, If the referendum was re-run today do you think people would vote differently?
If the referendum was re-run today do you think people would vote differently?
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Dr Plip on Nov 3, 2016 19:00:46 GMT 1, Some would.
Some would.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Dr Plip on Nov 3, 2016 19:02:01 GMT 1, FFS... enough of all this... I've got used to us being out. Let's get on with it. It's like breaking up with a girlfriend you love, I don't want to have to go through all that pain again.
FFS... enough of all this... I've got used to us being out. Let's get on with it. It's like breaking up with a girlfriend you love, I don't want to have to go through all that pain again. The worst part is always when they get the scissors out and start cutting up all of your best trade agreements. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Cornish Crayon on Nov 3, 2016 19:02:27 GMT 1, Apart from deep fried mars bars, we do come in handy occassionally I love you and all your people. Save us.
Edit: I feel I can speak for all of the English and Cornish when I say that we're sorry about the whole invasion thing.
lol 
Apart from deep fried mars bars, we do come in handy occassionally I love you and all your people. Save us.
Edit: I feel I can speak for all of the English and Cornish when I say that we're sorry about the whole invasion thing.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Dr Plip on Nov 3, 2016 19:05:03 GMT 1, I love you and all your people. Save us.
Edit: I feel I can speak for all of the English and Cornish when I say that we're sorry about the whole invasion thing.
lol 
I love you and all your people. Save us.
Edit: I feel I can speak for all of the English and Cornish when I say that we're sorry about the whole invasion thing.
lol Sorry but you weren't online and somebody had to say something. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Cornish Crayon on Nov 3, 2016 19:20:58 GMT 1, lol Sorry but you weren't online and somebody had to say something.
Thanks man, appreciate you standing up for me
Peace out
lol Sorry but you weren't online and somebody had to say something. Thanks man, appreciate you standing up for me Peace out |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by rbk on Nov 4, 2016 5:25:31 GMT 1, What is interesting will be the reaction of MPs particularly labour MPs in the North and Midlands where there was a strong vote to leave. If they speak or vote against leaving and an election is called could be the nail in the coffin for labour with massive swings to UKIP. Farage will stay as leader as now not finished and this could actually make them a serious party. So this non acceptance of the referendum could have quite profound consequences regardless of whether leave or remain is correct.
This puts the SNP in a right hole as well as even if they have a referendum on Scotland it does not matter as they will never get it passed parliment so although Sturgeon supported this action it could also be the nail in the coffin for Scottish independence.
I actually think regardless of their views that MPs will actually support the issuance of Art 50 based on the principles of democracy regardless of the rights and wrongs of the decision the vote should be adhered to. Just as if the vote had been to remain it should also have been accepted
What is interesting will be the reaction of MPs particularly labour MPs in the North and Midlands where there was a strong vote to leave. If they speak or vote against leaving and an election is called could be the nail in the coffin for labour with massive swings to UKIP. Farage will stay as leader as now not finished and this could actually make them a serious party. So this non acceptance of the referendum could have quite profound consequences regardless of whether leave or remain is correct.
This puts the SNP in a right hole as well as even if they have a referendum on Scotland it does not matter as they will never get it passed parliment so although Sturgeon supported this action it could also be the nail in the coffin for Scottish independence.
I actually think regardless of their views that MPs will actually support the issuance of Art 50 based on the principles of democracy regardless of the rights and wrongs of the decision the vote should be adhered to. Just as if the vote had been to remain it should also have been accepted
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by nex on Nov 4, 2016 6:26:28 GMT 1, The elected parliament have to vote on the future of the nation, its the end of democracy!!!
The elected parliament have to vote on the future of the nation, its the end of democracy!!!
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by crank on Nov 4, 2016 9:51:47 GMT 1, The elected parliament have to vote on the future of the nation, its the end of democracy!!!
Ha ha yep all the Brexsh*tters now don't seem too keen on seeing democracy in action.
The elected parliament have to vote on the future of the nation, its the end of democracy!!! Ha ha yep all the Brexsh*tters now don't seem too keen on seeing democracy in action. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Dr Plip on Nov 4, 2016 10:30:33 GMT 1, It appears that certain elements of the UK press has learned nothing from the murder of MP Jo Cox.
This is one of the most disturbing front pages I have ever seen from the UK press. And I've seen a few.
It appears that certain elements of the UK press has learned nothing from the murder of MP Jo Cox.
This is one of the most disturbing front pages I have ever seen from the UK press. And I've seen a few.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Matt on Nov 4, 2016 10:43:10 GMT 1, It appears that certain elements of the UK press has learned nothing from the murder of MP Jo Cox.
This is one of the most disturbing front pages I have ever seen from the UK press. And I've seen a few.
That is so wrong...written by scum for idiots what can you do
It appears that certain elements of the UK press has learned nothing from the murder of MP Jo Cox.
This is one of the most disturbing front pages I have ever seen from the UK press. And I've seen a few.
That is so wrong...written by scum for idiots what can you do |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Leo Boyd on Nov 4, 2016 10:57:25 GMT 1, Sorry but that dailymail cover is fucking disgraceful!
I do think it is great that parliament is now able to play its part in brexit but again fear that this whole thing will play into the hands of the right wing loons
Sorry but that dailymail cover is fucking disgraceful!
I do think it is great that parliament is now able to play its part in brexit but again fear that this whole thing will play into the hands of the right wing loons
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Nov 5, 2016 0:40:24 GMT 1, None, or very few pro-remain mp will try to completely block brexit, after the majority, and despite it being 'advisory' for fear of a greater public backlash. Based on the terms of the deal, there may be a second referendum, or general election...in reality I think there will be the intermediate/soft brexit outcome, ie access to the single market and some controls on freedom of movement. But given the current right-wing mood in the uk, I don't think that will appease the loonies.
None, or very few pro-remain mp will try to completely block brexit, after the majority, and despite it being 'advisory' for fear of a greater public backlash. Based on the terms of the deal, there may be a second referendum, or general election...in reality I think there will be the intermediate/soft brexit outcome, ie access to the single market and some controls on freedom of movement. But given the current right-wing mood in the uk, I don't think that will appease the loonies.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Nov 5, 2016 2:42:26 GMT 1, Respect
Respect
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Leo Boyd on Nov 5, 2016 16:54:08 GMT 1, This is bloody brilliant!
This is bloody brilliant! |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by RoboJ on Nov 6, 2016 20:14:15 GMT 1, Is this whole court case not about stopping one group of people making a decision about how we pull out of the EU? Instead forcing them to be open about their plans to ensure that it is looked at from all points of view rather than just their own? This for me is one of the reasons I am concerned about leaving the EU. There will be nobody keeping an eye out for everyone, who ever is in power can do as they please.
The more I hear the Conservatives priorities of immigration controls instead of how to fix the economy, NHS & education the more the lines are blurred between them and UKIP. Its the first time I feel that there are no parties aligned with how I feel, none I feel represent me.
Is this whole court case not about stopping one group of people making a decision about how we pull out of the EU? Instead forcing them to be open about their plans to ensure that it is looked at from all points of view rather than just their own? This for me is one of the reasons I am concerned about leaving the EU. There will be nobody keeping an eye out for everyone, who ever is in power can do as they please.
The more I hear the Conservatives priorities of immigration controls instead of how to fix the economy, NHS & education the more the lines are blurred between them and UKIP. Its the first time I feel that there are no parties aligned with how I feel, none I feel represent me.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Leo Boyd on Nov 6, 2016 21:55:51 GMT 1, Is this whole court case not about stopping one group of people making a decision about how we pull out of the EU? Instead forcing them to be open about their plans to ensure that it is looked at from all points of view rather than just their own? This for me is one of the reasons I am concerned about leaving the EU. There will be nobody keeping an eye out for everyone, who ever is in power can do as they please. The more I hear the Conservatives priorities of immigration controls instead of how to fix the economy, NHS & education the more the lines are blurred between them and UKIP. Its the first time I feel that there are no parties aligned with how I feel, none I feel represent me.
Is this whole court case not about stopping one group of people making a decision about how we pull out of the EU? Instead forcing them to be open about their plans to ensure that it is looked at from all points of view rather than just their own? This for me is one of the reasons I am concerned about leaving the EU. There will be nobody keeping an eye out for everyone, who ever is in power can do as they please. The more I hear the Conservatives priorities of immigration controls instead of how to fix the economy, NHS & education the more the lines are blurred between them and UKIP. Its the first time I feel that there are no parties aligned with how I feel, none I feel represent me. You are going to have to start your own party RoboJ |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Leo Boyd on Nov 8, 2016 23:37:27 GMT 1, Sorry this took so long!
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 17:47:34 GMT 1, Farage and Banks, the Laurel and Hardy of British politics or should that be Farage and Johnson.
It just goes to show that a campaign based on lies enabled them both to swing the vote for Brexit with I wouldn't be surprised some voter fraud in some areas if block votes or votes on behalf of others were allowed.
Johnson should never have got a job in the government and Farage is just a media whore and a spiv and a hypocrit.
I would have added liar but thats par for the course for all politicians.
So not surprised that there will be a parliamentary vote, after all farage and the Brexiters stated they would ask for a re run if the Brexit vote was very close and the result was remain.
Farage and Banks, the Laurel and Hardy of British politics or should that be Farage and Johnson.
It just goes to show that a campaign based on lies enabled them both to swing the vote for Brexit with I wouldn't be surprised some voter fraud in some areas if block votes or votes on behalf of others were allowed.
Johnson should never have got a job in the government and Farage is just a media whore and a spiv and a hypocrit.
I would have added liar but thats par for the course for all politicians.
So not surprised that there will be a parliamentary vote, after all farage and the Brexiters stated they would ask for a re run if the Brexit vote was very close and the result was remain.
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