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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 20:10:35 GMT 1, The streets are paved with gold for some. The boy in the link above was part of a group of Roma children targeting English supporters for money. The Roma men are too lazy to get jobs and work for a living so send children out to beg and steal. The British and other tourists are targeted by professional beggars who say stealing is their job and they are proud of stealing for a living. People who are victims of theft are laughed at by thes epeople and the English supporters turned the tables by throwing coins and watching the children clamouring for them. It's not nice behaviour by civilised adults for sure. If anyone has a problem with this happening on the streets they could always have a word with the childrens parents to ask them why they are sending their children out to beg and steal. Oh no @elviswarhol ! So sad to hear that you and other Brits on the French Riviera are being inconvenienced by these children... I mean these kids have of course made a very deliberate life choice here, deliberalty choosing a life of not being very agreeable to British vacationers. I also hear, from Medecins du Monde, that amongst Roma, refugees and migrants, childhood prostitution is rampant. Imagine that, another cognisant poor choice by these kids, no doubt to afford new iPhone for those who's tiny fingers have outgrown picking pockets...
I agree these children are being exploited by grown men in their communities mainly their fathers etc and indoctrinated into this way of life. Thats why I also wrote in another post about where are the parents when the children go out begging for money or stealing.
The video I posted even has a father complaining that he only got 800 euros for his twelve year old daughter and now that they are in the EU. The price will go up.
These men are real life Fagins exploiting and abusing the children.
It does need a change in the law to be able to prosecute the adults and put the children into care or some sort of security. If it is part of their culture. Does not mean it should be ignored.
The streets are paved with gold for some. The boy in the link above was part of a group of Roma children targeting English supporters for money. The Roma men are too lazy to get jobs and work for a living so send children out to beg and steal. The British and other tourists are targeted by professional beggars who say stealing is their job and they are proud of stealing for a living. People who are victims of theft are laughed at by thes epeople and the English supporters turned the tables by throwing coins and watching the children clamouring for them. It's not nice behaviour by civilised adults for sure. If anyone has a problem with this happening on the streets they could always have a word with the childrens parents to ask them why they are sending their children out to beg and steal. Oh no @elviswarhol ! So sad to hear that you and other Brits on the French Riviera are being inconvenienced by these children... I mean these kids have of course made a very deliberate life choice here, deliberalty choosing a life of not being very agreeable to British vacationers. I also hear, from Medecins du Monde, that amongst Roma, refugees and migrants, childhood prostitution is rampant. Imagine that, another cognisant poor choice by these kids, no doubt to afford new iPhone for those who's tiny fingers have outgrown picking pockets... I did write, "The Roma men are too lazy to get jobs and work for a living so send children out to beg and steal."
I agree these children are being exploited by grown men in their communities mainly their fathers etc and indoctrinated into this way of life. Thats why I also wrote in another post about where are the parents when the children go out begging for money or stealing. The video I posted even has a father complaining that he only got 800 euros for his twelve year old daughter and now that they are in the EU. The price will go up. These men are real life Fagins exploiting and abusing the children. It does need a change in the law to be able to prosecute the adults and put the children into care or some sort of security. If it is part of their culture. Does not mean it should be ignored. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by iamzero on Jun 18, 2016 9:25:20 GMT 1, Balanced enough?
Balanced enough?
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jun 18, 2016 18:56:26 GMT 1, Look how when the undecided drops, the leave goes up!
Its all gonna depend on that swing of votes in the last few days, but the stats suggest that most undecided will vot Leave.
Look how when the undecided drops, the leave goes up! Its all gonna depend on that swing of votes in the last few days, but the stats suggest that most undecided will vot Leave. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Lroy on Jun 18, 2016 22:55:05 GMT 1, Just tweeted that ...
" @eurofilebrexit
Funny : #Brexit rhymes a little with #Berezina ! Hope the Channel will be deeper and more peaceful than This bloody river !"'
Anyway just saying about the anti Brexit livers lol ...
Some talked here about this particularism so "'British "
And so what ?! A story again about green peas, grass, rain and lawn mowers ...
And so what ? Each country has its proper paticularism, fous wine sausage and red beans etc...
I think before all that it is Island ' minds and spirits that we found in UK, as we found it for Corsica, Ireland, Galapagos, Jamsica , etc ..
Ask The Falklands about their particularism , lol
And to Maggie too ( no fun)!
It's sure that if the out pass, it will be easier then to don't accept any refugees .., Consciences will be safe ...
Just tweeted that ...
" @eurofilebrexit
Funny : #Brexit rhymes a little with #Berezina ! Hope the Channel will be deeper and more peaceful than This bloody river !"'
Anyway just saying about the anti Brexit livers lol ...
Some talked here about this particularism so "'British "
And so what ?! A story again about green peas, grass, rain and lawn mowers ...
And so what ? Each country has its proper paticularism, fous wine sausage and red beans etc...
I think before all that it is Island ' minds and spirits that we found in UK, as we found it for Corsica, Ireland, Galapagos, Jamsica , etc ..
Ask The Falklands about their particularism , lol
And to Maggie too ( no fun)!
It's sure that if the out pass, it will be easier then to don't accept any refugees .., Consciences will be safe ...
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Lroy on Jun 18, 2016 23:14:55 GMT 1, I think I make a confusion.,
If I say yes , I am for uk in Europe or not ?
What means Brexit ?!?
I am for UK inn Eurooe bug I think that I am writing the contrary .,
As English cars rolling on the left..
Too much complicated for me
I think I make a confusion.,
If I say yes , I am for uk in Europe or not ?
What means Brexit ?!?
I am for UK inn Eurooe bug I think that I am writing the contrary .,
As English cars rolling on the left..
Too much complicated for me
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by FЯ on Jun 19, 2016 8:29:26 GMT 1, Exactly.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 9:37:22 GMT 1, I reckon a lot of "undecided" will vote leave. Some won't say they are pro leave as they don't want to be branded racist.
I reckon a lot of "undecided" will vote leave. Some won't say they are pro leave as they don't want to be branded racist.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 10:04:08 GMT 1, I reckon a lot of "undecided" will vote leave. Some won't say they are pro leave as they don't want to be branded racist.
I'm voting to leave. Most people I've asked have said they are voting leave too.
I reckon a lot of "undecided" will vote leave. Some won't say they are pro leave as they don't want to be branded racist. I'm voting to leave. Most people I've asked have said they are voting leave too. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by iamzero on Jun 19, 2016 11:00:17 GMT 1, I was at a party last night talking to a friend of ours that works for Nestle and his job means he travels to cover the UK and Europe and he thinks there won't be a problem in business if we vote leave. Looks like the UK is destined to forge its own path.
I was at a party last night talking to a friend of ours that works for Nestle and his job means he travels to cover the UK and Europe and he thinks there won't be a problem in business if we vote leave. Looks like the UK is destined to forge its own path.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 19, 2016 11:22:52 GMT 1, I was at a party last night talking to a friend of ours that works for Nestle and his job means he travels to cover the UK and Europe and he thinks there won't be a problem in business if we vote leave. Looks like the UK is destined to forge its own path.
I hope you mate is right.
It would however mean that the Bank of England, the imf, the vast majority of economists, and most other experts are wrong.
I was at a party last night talking to a friend of ours that works for Nestle and his job means he travels to cover the UK and Europe and he thinks there won't be a problem in business if we vote leave. Looks like the UK is destined to forge its own path. I hope you mate is right. It would however mean that the Bank of England, the imf, the vast majority of economists, and most other experts are wrong. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 19, 2016 11:38:21 GMT 1, David Cameron today claimed the cost of a family summer holiday to the Mediterranean and other popular EU destinations could rise by £230 if the country votes for Brexit.
The Prime Minister cited Treasury analysis that suggests a fall in the value of the pound after leaving the EU would send the cost for flights, hotel accommodation and meals abroad soaring.
Really David? Seems to of F*cking done that every year regardless!
and doesn't that mean we will holiday in the uk more and boost the economy?
David Cameron today claimed the cost of a family summer holiday to the Mediterranean and other popular EU destinations could rise by £230 if the country votes for Brexit.
The Prime Minister cited Treasury analysis that suggests a fall in the value of the pound after leaving the EU would send the cost for flights, hotel accommodation and meals abroad soaring.
Really David? Seems to of F*cking done that every year regardless!
and doesn't that mean we will holiday in the uk more and boost the economy?
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by iamzero on Jun 19, 2016 11:41:21 GMT 1, I think the thing is Coach... No one knows. There is fear spread on both sides. All the experts got the Euro wrong. How can anyone be sure that all the so called experts are not just protecting their own jobs and interests? We can't. I guess it comes down to what we experience as individuals. I'm not spoon fed facts from the government that I just accept. I question things constantly and am currently experiencing the short falls of NHS waiting lists and can see first hand with my own eyes why, and am making my judgements on what I see and not what I hear. My recent dealings with being shouted down on here by others that believe in hurling baseless accusations and insisting I am the one in the wrong because we don't share the same view have swung me to voting out. I honestly don't know if that's the right or the wrong thing to do but I reckon I'm gonna do it anyway.
I think the thing is Coach... No one knows. There is fear spread on both sides. All the experts got the Euro wrong. How can anyone be sure that all the so called experts are not just protecting their own jobs and interests? We can't. I guess it comes down to what we experience as individuals. I'm not spoon fed facts from the government that I just accept. I question things constantly and am currently experiencing the short falls of NHS waiting lists and can see first hand with my own eyes why, and am making my judgements on what I see and not what I hear. My recent dealings with being shouted down on here by others that believe in hurling baseless accusations and insisting I am the one in the wrong because we don't share the same view have swung me to voting out. I honestly don't know if that's the right or the wrong thing to do but I reckon I'm gonna do it anyway.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jun 19, 2016 11:49:37 GMT 1, I was at a party last night talking to a friend of ours that works for Nestle and his job means he travels to cover the UK and Europe and he thinks there won't be a problem in business if we vote leave. Looks like the UK is destined to forge its own path. I hope you mate is right. It would however mean that the Bank of England, the imf, the vast majority of economists, and most other experts are wrong. 
I was at a party last night talking to a friend of ours that works for Nestle and his job means he travels to cover the UK and Europe and he thinks there won't be a problem in business if we vote leave. Looks like the UK is destined to forge its own path. I hope you mate is right. It would however mean that the Bank of England, the imf, the vast majority of economists, and most other experts are wrong. 9 out of 10 cats said they prefer staying in the EU |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by iamzero on Jun 19, 2016 11:51:50 GMT 1, Would they be of the fat variety?
Would they be of the fat variety?
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 19, 2016 12:41:13 GMT 1, I think the thing is Coach... No one knows. There is fear spread on both sides. All the experts got the Euro wrong. How can anyone be sure that all the so called experts are not just protecting their own jobs and interests? We can't. I guess it comes down to what we experience as individuals. I'm not spoon fed facts from the government that I just accept. I question things constantly and am currently experiencing the short falls of NHS waiting lists and can see first hand with my own eyes why, and am making my judgements on what I see and not what I hear. My recent dealings with being shouted down on here by others that believe in hurling baseless accusations and insisting I am the one in the wrong because we don't share the same view have swung me to voting out. I honestly don't know if that's the right or the wrong thing to do but I reckon I'm gonna do it anyway.
I am not trying to shout you down. As I've said before, I accept that there is speculation about what might happen. That is inevitable. It's not happened before. My point is that we have to consider whose speculation it is best to listen to. And the overwhelming view of those best placed to advise is that voting out will damage the economy for many years to come, and that will impact on jobs.
I'm not interested in protecting the wealth of the rich. I'm worried for the jobs of many thousands of people.
Problems with the nhs are, in my opinion, due to having an aging population, under investment in non hospital health care, and the refusal of a Tory government to invest properly in both, which would inevitably need a rise in taxes. If people want low taxes and a small government then underfunding of resources like the nhs is the inevitable outcome.
At the end of the day, I would rather listen to economists and experts than my mates down the pub. That's all I'm saying.
I think the thing is Coach... No one knows. There is fear spread on both sides. All the experts got the Euro wrong. How can anyone be sure that all the so called experts are not just protecting their own jobs and interests? We can't. I guess it comes down to what we experience as individuals. I'm not spoon fed facts from the government that I just accept. I question things constantly and am currently experiencing the short falls of NHS waiting lists and can see first hand with my own eyes why, and am making my judgements on what I see and not what I hear. My recent dealings with being shouted down on here by others that believe in hurling baseless accusations and insisting I am the one in the wrong because we don't share the same view have swung me to voting out. I honestly don't know if that's the right or the wrong thing to do but I reckon I'm gonna do it anyway. I am not trying to shout you down. As I've said before, I accept that there is speculation about what might happen. That is inevitable. It's not happened before. My point is that we have to consider whose speculation it is best to listen to. And the overwhelming view of those best placed to advise is that voting out will damage the economy for many years to come, and that will impact on jobs. I'm not interested in protecting the wealth of the rich. I'm worried for the jobs of many thousands of people. Problems with the nhs are, in my opinion, due to having an aging population, under investment in non hospital health care, and the refusal of a Tory government to invest properly in both, which would inevitably need a rise in taxes. If people want low taxes and a small government then underfunding of resources like the nhs is the inevitable outcome. At the end of the day, I would rather listen to economists and experts than my mates down the pub. That's all I'm saying. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jun 19, 2016 12:47:13 GMT 1, I think the thing is Coach... No one knows. There is fear spread on both sides. All the experts got the Euro wrong. How can anyone be sure that all the so called experts are not just protecting their own jobs and interests? We can't. I guess it comes down to what we experience as individuals. I'm not spoon fed facts from the government that I just accept. I question things constantly and am currently experiencing the short falls of NHS waiting lists and can see first hand with my own eyes why, and am making my judgements on what I see and not what I hear. My recent dealings with being shouted down on here by others that believe in hurling baseless accusations and insisting I am the one in the wrong because we don't share the same view have swung me to voting out. I honestly don't know if that's the right or the wrong thing to do but I reckon I'm gonna do it anyway. I am not trying to shout you down. As I've said before, I accept that there is speculation about what might happen. That is inevitable. It's not happened before. My point is that we have to consider whose speculation it is best to listen to. And the overwhelming view of those best placed to advise is that voting out will damage the economy for many years to come, and that will impact on jobs. I'm not interested in protecting the wealth of the rich. I'm worried for the jobs of many thousands of people. Problems with the nhs are, in my opinion, due to having an aging population, under investment in non hospital health care, and the refusal of a Tory government to invest properly in both, which would inevitably need a rise in taxes. If people want low taxes and a small government then underfunding of resources like the nhs is the inevitable outcome. At the end of the day, I would rather listen to economists and experts than my mates down the pub. That's all I'm saying.
I think the thing is Coach... No one knows. There is fear spread on both sides. All the experts got the Euro wrong. How can anyone be sure that all the so called experts are not just protecting their own jobs and interests? We can't. I guess it comes down to what we experience as individuals. I'm not spoon fed facts from the government that I just accept. I question things constantly and am currently experiencing the short falls of NHS waiting lists and can see first hand with my own eyes why, and am making my judgements on what I see and not what I hear. My recent dealings with being shouted down on here by others that believe in hurling baseless accusations and insisting I am the one in the wrong because we don't share the same view have swung me to voting out. I honestly don't know if that's the right or the wrong thing to do but I reckon I'm gonna do it anyway. I am not trying to shout you down. As I've said before, I accept that there is speculation about what might happen. That is inevitable. It's not happened before. My point is that we have to consider whose speculation it is best to listen to. And the overwhelming view of those best placed to advise is that voting out will damage the economy for many years to come, and that will impact on jobs. I'm not interested in protecting the wealth of the rich. I'm worried for the jobs of many thousands of people. Problems with the nhs are, in my opinion, due to having an aging population, under investment in non hospital health care, and the refusal of a Tory government to invest properly in both, which would inevitably need a rise in taxes. If people want low taxes and a small government then underfunding of resources like the nhs is the inevitable outcome. At the end of the day, I would rather listen to economists and experts than my mates down the pub. That's all I'm saying. The NHS situation seems to be very worried about that TTIP trade deal between the EU and America. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by iamzero on Jun 19, 2016 12:51:39 GMT 1, Dude. If there's one person least likely to shout someone down, it's is without doubt you. It's not just the fault of the Tory government, it was the previous labour lot that sold off the NHS services to Interserve who did nothing but bleed it dry until they handed it back early at the end of April. Eat the rich... And that includes those champagne socialist.
Dude. If there's one person least likely to shout someone down, it's is without doubt you. It's not just the fault of the Tory government, it was the previous labour lot that sold off the NHS services to Interserve who did nothing but bleed it dry until they handed it back early at the end of April. Eat the rich... And that includes those champagne socialist.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 19, 2016 12:58:34 GMT 1, I am not trying to shout you down. As I've said before, I accept that there is speculation about what might happen. That is inevitable. It's not happened before. My point is that we have to consider whose speculation it is best to listen to. And the overwhelming view of those best placed to advise is that voting out will damage the economy for many years to come, and that will impact on jobs. I'm not interested in protecting the wealth of the rich. I'm worried for the jobs of many thousands of people. Problems with the nhs are, in my opinion, due to having an aging population, under investment in non hospital health care, and the refusal of a Tory government to invest properly in both, which would inevitably need a rise in taxes. If people want low taxes and a small government then underfunding of resources like the nhs is the inevitable outcome. At the end of the day, I would rather listen to economists and experts than my mates down the pub. That's all I'm saying. The NHS situation seems to be very worried about that TTIP trade deal between the EU and America.
Yes, and I think TTIP's are a dreadful idea, from what I have read.
I am not trying to shout you down. As I've said before, I accept that there is speculation about what might happen. That is inevitable. It's not happened before. My point is that we have to consider whose speculation it is best to listen to. And the overwhelming view of those best placed to advise is that voting out will damage the economy for many years to come, and that will impact on jobs. I'm not interested in protecting the wealth of the rich. I'm worried for the jobs of many thousands of people. Problems with the nhs are, in my opinion, due to having an aging population, under investment in non hospital health care, and the refusal of a Tory government to invest properly in both, which would inevitably need a rise in taxes. If people want low taxes and a small government then underfunding of resources like the nhs is the inevitable outcome. At the end of the day, I would rather listen to economists and experts than my mates down the pub. That's all I'm saying. The NHS situation seems to be very worried about that TTIP trade deal between the EU and America. Yes, and I think TTIP's are a dreadful idea, from what I have read. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by My Name is Frank on Jun 20, 2016 7:10:46 GMT 1,
Essential 24 minutes of viewing to help make a more informed choice.
Essential 24 minutes of viewing to help make a more informed choice.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by love on Jun 20, 2016 13:04:00 GMT 1,
Please, please... LEAVE!
Please, please... LEAVE!
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 16:00:40 GMT 1, I think the thing is Coach... No one knows. There is fear spread on both sides. All the experts got the Euro wrong. How can anyone be sure that all the so called experts are not just protecting their own jobs and interests? We can't. I guess it comes down to what we experience as individuals. I'm not spoon fed facts from the government that I just accept. I question things constantly and am currently experiencing the short falls of NHS waiting lists and can see first hand with my own eyes why, and am making my judgements on what I see and not what I hear. My recent dealings with being shouted down on here by others that believe in hurling baseless accusations and insisting I am the one in the wrong because we don't share the same view have swung me to voting out. I honestly don't know if that's the right or the wrong thing to do but I reckon I'm gonna do it anyway. I am not trying to shout you down. As I've said before, I accept that there is speculation about what might happen. That is inevitable. It's not happened before. My point is that we have to consider whose speculation it is best to listen to. And the overwhelming view of those best placed to advise is that voting out will damage the economy for many years to come, and that will impact on jobs. I'm not interested in protecting the wealth of the rich. I'm worried for the jobs of many thousands of people. Problems with the nhs are, in my opinion, due to having an aging population, under investment in non hospital health care, and the refusal of a Tory government to invest properly in both, which would inevitably need a rise in taxes. If people want low taxes and a small government then underfunding of resources like the nhs is the inevitable outcome. At the end of the day, I would rather listen to economists and experts than my mates down the pub. That's all I'm saying.
I thought the problems with the NHS is the way it's run and theft of the budget to pay big wigs who do nothing constructive and bad management.
Blaming people for being old or living longer. It's not their fault. Plus there are many cases of old people and young being mistreated by the NHS.
Tony Blairs lot did it too and covered up a lot of things that were going on and one factor about the NHS being overloaded is due to migration into the UK. I'm not blaming any migrants who get ill and need the NHS and the policy of the government should always be that the NHS expands in order to be able to deal with it. Plus many non emergency situations etc could probably be alleviated by insisting some people do take out private health insurance.
I think the thing is Coach... No one knows. There is fear spread on both sides. All the experts got the Euro wrong. How can anyone be sure that all the so called experts are not just protecting their own jobs and interests? We can't. I guess it comes down to what we experience as individuals. I'm not spoon fed facts from the government that I just accept. I question things constantly and am currently experiencing the short falls of NHS waiting lists and can see first hand with my own eyes why, and am making my judgements on what I see and not what I hear. My recent dealings with being shouted down on here by others that believe in hurling baseless accusations and insisting I am the one in the wrong because we don't share the same view have swung me to voting out. I honestly don't know if that's the right or the wrong thing to do but I reckon I'm gonna do it anyway. I am not trying to shout you down. As I've said before, I accept that there is speculation about what might happen. That is inevitable. It's not happened before. My point is that we have to consider whose speculation it is best to listen to. And the overwhelming view of those best placed to advise is that voting out will damage the economy for many years to come, and that will impact on jobs. I'm not interested in protecting the wealth of the rich. I'm worried for the jobs of many thousands of people. Problems with the nhs are, in my opinion, due to having an aging population, under investment in non hospital health care, and the refusal of a Tory government to invest properly in both, which would inevitably need a rise in taxes. If people want low taxes and a small government then underfunding of resources like the nhs is the inevitable outcome. At the end of the day, I would rather listen to economists and experts than my mates down the pub. That's all I'm saying. I thought the problems with the NHS is the way it's run and theft of the budget to pay big wigs who do nothing constructive and bad management. Blaming people for being old or living longer. It's not their fault. Plus there are many cases of old people and young being mistreated by the NHS. Tony Blairs lot did it too and covered up a lot of things that were going on and one factor about the NHS being overloaded is due to migration into the UK. I'm not blaming any migrants who get ill and need the NHS and the policy of the government should always be that the NHS expands in order to be able to deal with it. Plus many non emergency situations etc could probably be alleviated by insisting some people do take out private health insurance. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 20, 2016 16:04:19 GMT 1, I am not trying to shout you down. As I've said before, I accept that there is speculation about what might happen. That is inevitable. It's not happened before. My point is that we have to consider whose speculation it is best to listen to. And the overwhelming view of those best placed to advise is that voting out will damage the economy for many years to come, and that will impact on jobs. I'm not interested in protecting the wealth of the rich. I'm worried for the jobs of many thousands of people. Problems with the nhs are, in my opinion, due to having an aging population, under investment in non hospital health care, and the refusal of a Tory government to invest properly in both, which would inevitably need a rise in taxes. If people want low taxes and a small government then underfunding of resources like the nhs is the inevitable outcome. At the end of the day, I would rather listen to economists and experts than my mates down the pub. That's all I'm saying. I thought the problems with the NHS is the way it's run and theft of the budget to pay big wigs who do nothing constructive and bad management. Blaming people for being old or living longer. It's not their fault. Plus there are many cases of old people and young being mistreated by the NHS. Tony Blairs lot did it too and covered up a lot of things that were going on and one factor about the NHS being overloaded is due to migration into the UK. I'm not blaming any migrants who get ill and need the NHS and the policy of the government should always be that the NHS expands in order to be able to deal with it. Plus many non emergency situations etc could probably be alleviated by insisting some people do take out private health insurance.
I did NOT blame people for being old.
I blame lack of investment to take account of an aging population.
And for increased investment there needs to be less spending elsewhere or more money raised (taxes). That's simple maths.
I find your comments quite extrodinary sometimes.
I am not trying to shout you down. As I've said before, I accept that there is speculation about what might happen. That is inevitable. It's not happened before. My point is that we have to consider whose speculation it is best to listen to. And the overwhelming view of those best placed to advise is that voting out will damage the economy for many years to come, and that will impact on jobs. I'm not interested in protecting the wealth of the rich. I'm worried for the jobs of many thousands of people. Problems with the nhs are, in my opinion, due to having an aging population, under investment in non hospital health care, and the refusal of a Tory government to invest properly in both, which would inevitably need a rise in taxes. If people want low taxes and a small government then underfunding of resources like the nhs is the inevitable outcome. At the end of the day, I would rather listen to economists and experts than my mates down the pub. That's all I'm saying. I thought the problems with the NHS is the way it's run and theft of the budget to pay big wigs who do nothing constructive and bad management. Blaming people for being old or living longer. It's not their fault. Plus there are many cases of old people and young being mistreated by the NHS. Tony Blairs lot did it too and covered up a lot of things that were going on and one factor about the NHS being overloaded is due to migration into the UK. I'm not blaming any migrants who get ill and need the NHS and the policy of the government should always be that the NHS expands in order to be able to deal with it. Plus many non emergency situations etc could probably be alleviated by insisting some people do take out private health insurance. I did NOT blame people for being old. I blame lack of investment to take account of an aging population. And for increased investment there needs to be less spending elsewhere or more money raised (taxes). That's simple maths. I find your comments quite extrodinary sometimes. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 16:19:53 GMT 1, I thought the problems with the NHS is the way it's run and theft of the budget to pay big wigs who do nothing constructive and bad management. Blaming people for being old or living longer. It's not their fault. Plus there are many cases of old people and young being mistreated by the NHS. Tony Blairs lot did it too and covered up a lot of things that were going on and one factor about the NHS being overloaded is due to migration into the UK. I'm not blaming any migrants who get ill and need the NHS and the policy of the government should always be that the NHS expands in order to be able to deal with it. Plus many non emergency situations etc could probably be alleviated by insisting some people do take out private health insurance. I did NOT blame people for being old. I blame lack of investment to take account of an aging population. And for increased investment there needs to be less spending elsewhere or more money raised (taxes). That's simple maths. I find your comments quite extrodinary sometimes.
There is plenty of moneY available for the NHS.
I agree about less spending elsewhere. Money is being wasted left right and centre by the government.
One myth about migration being good for a country is the ageing population so we need migrants to make up the numbers etc.
Thats completely untrue.
I thought the problems with the NHS is the way it's run and theft of the budget to pay big wigs who do nothing constructive and bad management. Blaming people for being old or living longer. It's not their fault. Plus there are many cases of old people and young being mistreated by the NHS. Tony Blairs lot did it too and covered up a lot of things that were going on and one factor about the NHS being overloaded is due to migration into the UK. I'm not blaming any migrants who get ill and need the NHS and the policy of the government should always be that the NHS expands in order to be able to deal with it. Plus many non emergency situations etc could probably be alleviated by insisting some people do take out private health insurance. I did NOT blame people for being old. I blame lack of investment to take account of an aging population. And for increased investment there needs to be less spending elsewhere or more money raised (taxes). That's simple maths. I find your comments quite extrodinary sometimes. Investment is one part of the problem. It's bad management and political failures who get moved from one high paid gig running a public body etc to another. There is plenty of moneY available for the NHS. I agree about less spending elsewhere. Money is being wasted left right and centre by the government. One myth about migration being good for a country is the ageing population so we need migrants to make up the numbers etc. Thats completely untrue. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 17:40:37 GMT 1, Nigel Farage was asked last week why he's taken up cigarettes again.
Farage: "I think the doctors have got it wrong on smoking".
He obviously knows what he's talking about, good to know we can definitely trust people like him to take us out of the EU...
Nigel Farage was asked last week why he's taken up cigarettes again.
Farage: "I think the doctors have got it wrong on smoking".
He obviously knows what he's talking about, good to know we can definitely trust people like him to take us out of the EU...
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 19:10:32 GMT 1, Nigel Farage was asked last week why he's taken up cigarettes again. Farage: "I think the doctors have got it wrong on smoking". He obviously knows what he's talking about, good to know we can definitely trust people like him to take us out of the EU...
Nigel Farage was asked last week why he's taken up cigarettes again. Farage: "I think the doctors have got it wrong on smoking". He obviously knows what he's talking about, good to know we can definitely trust people like him to take us out of the EU... L Ron Hubbard said something similar |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 19:12:09 GMT 1,
When a country's leaders lose the respect of the police. Then it's the beginning of the end.
When a country's leaders lose the respect of the police. Then it's the beginning of the end. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Jun 20, 2016 22:31:48 GMT 1,
I really think O'Brien should have got the permanent news night slot instead of stand-in shifts
I really think O'Brien should have got the permanent news night slot instead of stand-in shifts |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Jun 20, 2016 22:33:23 GMT 1, Farage links the politically motivated terrorist act of last week, to 'mental' in cause unsurprisingly
Farage links the politically motivated terrorist act of last week, to 'mental' in cause unsurprisingly
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by iamzero on Jun 20, 2016 23:05:59 GMT 1, Without question the shooter was clearly mental as was the one in the gay club in America. The question is more if ISIL and Farage should be held responsible, maybe... Maybe not. Was John Lennon responsible for whipping up his murderer into a killing frenzy? Very fine line I reckon.
Without question the shooter was clearly mental as was the one in the gay club in America. The question is more if ISIL and Farage should be held responsible, maybe... Maybe not. Was John Lennon responsible for whipping up his murderer into a killing frenzy? Very fine line I reckon.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by iamzero on Jun 20, 2016 23:08:03 GMT 1, And that's in no way a defence for either Farage or ISIL... Both barking mad in my miserable opinion.
And that's in no way a defence for either Farage or ISIL... Both barking mad in my miserable opinion.
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