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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by searchandrescue on Jun 23, 2016 9:51:32 GMT 1, The world is increasingly designed to depress us. Happiness and contentment aren’t very good for the economy. If we were content with what we had, why would we need more ? How do you sell an anti ageing moisturiser ? You make someone worry about ageing How do you get them to buy insurance ? By making them worry about loss. How do you get them to undergo cosmetic surgery ? By highlighting their physical flaws. How do you get them to watch a TV show ? By making them believe they’ll miss out How do Politicians get your leave EU vote ? By making you worry about immigrants. Fear is good for their business. The EU is far from perfect but the UK alongside France and Germany have a huge voice in it and the capacity to change it from within. Yes, the Conservatives win either way, but Boris and Farage are dangerous demagoges on a par with Trump. Kick them out, then kick out the Tories. Vote Remain, vote Art over Business, vote Hope over Hate.
The world is increasingly designed to depress us. Happiness and contentment aren’t very good for the economy. If we were content with what we had, why would we need more ? How do you sell an anti ageing moisturiser ? You make someone worry about ageing How do you get them to buy insurance ? By making them worry about loss. How do you get them to undergo cosmetic surgery ? By highlighting their physical flaws. How do you get them to watch a TV show ? By making them believe they’ll miss out How do Politicians get your leave EU vote ? By making you worry about immigrants. Fear is good for their business. The EU is far from perfect but the UK alongside France and Germany have a huge voice in it and the capacity to change it from within. Yes, the Conservatives win either way, but Boris and Farage are dangerous demagoges on a par with Trump. Kick them out, then kick out the Tories. Vote Remain, vote Art over Business, vote Hope over Hate. yes, it is far from perfect, "Even the Germans know it can't be fixed from within" Our legal system (UK) has survived for around 1000 years. The EU has been around in it's recent form maybe 50 or so. I think we can collectively renegotiate with partner nations. The EU is very good for Goldman Sachs, Bob Geldof, Richard Branson, Eurocrats in the UK governments and EU parliament etc etc but not so good for the "ordinary" citizens (by ordinary I mean those in Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Ireland, Cyprus and the UK, generally outside of London and the south east who get by on less than $2000 per month.) |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Reader on Jun 23, 2016 9:52:19 GMT 1, In all fairness, I thought fear was an integral part of the Remain campaign too? You don't seem to have picked up on that point.
Manipulation is more likely when the public doesn't understand an issue or is unlikely to be able to overcome the fear created by politicians.
There's an awful lot of published research material out there.
Well worth a watch
phys.org/news/2009-03-politicians.html#jCp
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Politics_of_fear
In all fairness, I thought fear was an integral part of the Remain campaign too? You don't seem to have picked up on that point. Absolutely, as with advertisers, they have the advice of the finest psychologists in the land advising on human behaviour and how we respond to messages of hope or fear. The young respond well to hope, the older to fear. Possibly due to being indoctrinated for longer. The rhetorical tools they use are very powerful, especially when amplified by the right wing press. Manipulation is more likely when the public doesn't understand an issue or is unlikely to be able to overcome the fear created by politicians. There's an awful lot of published research material out there. Well worth a watch phys.org/news/2009-03-politicians.html#jCprationalwiki.org/wiki/Politics_of_fear |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by waveydavey on Jun 23, 2016 9:58:49 GMT 1, The world is increasingly designed to depress us. Happiness and contentment aren’t very good for the economy. If we were content with what we had, why would we need more ? How do you sell an anti ageing moisturiser ? You make someone worry about ageing How do you get them to buy insurance ? By making them worry about loss. How do you get them to undergo cosmetic surgery ? By highlighting their physical flaws. How do you get them to watch a TV show ? By making them believe they’ll miss out How do Politicians get your leave EU vote ? By making you worry about immigrants. Fear is good for their business. The EU is far from perfect but the UK alongside France and Germany have a huge voice in it and the capacity to change it from within. Yes, the Conservatives win either way, but Boris and Farage are dangerous demagoges on a par with Trump. Kick them out, then kick out the Tories. Vote Remain, vote Art over Business, vote Hope over Hate. yes, it is far from perfect, "Even the Germans know it can't be fixed from within" Our legal system (UK) has survived for around 1000 years. The EU has been around in it's recent form maybe 50 or so. I think we can collectively renegotiate with partner nations. The EU is very good for Goldman Sachs, Bob Geldof, Richard Branson, Eurocrats in the UK governments and EU parliament etc etc but not so good for the "ordinary" citizens (by ordinary I mean those in Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Ireland, Cyprus and the UK, generally outside of London and the south east who get by on less than $2000 per month
The whole thing is about loss aversion isn't it. The decision making part of the brain is more worried about loss than gain hence the negative campaigning. If I said I was voting for stay because I understand the European project and I believe in it you probably couldn't care less. Where as if I said I am voting in just because you voted our you would feel much more strongly because you feel loss.
The world is increasingly designed to depress us. Happiness and contentment aren’t very good for the economy. If we were content with what we had, why would we need more ? How do you sell an anti ageing moisturiser ? You make someone worry about ageing How do you get them to buy insurance ? By making them worry about loss. How do you get them to undergo cosmetic surgery ? By highlighting their physical flaws. How do you get them to watch a TV show ? By making them believe they’ll miss out How do Politicians get your leave EU vote ? By making you worry about immigrants. Fear is good for their business. The EU is far from perfect but the UK alongside France and Germany have a huge voice in it and the capacity to change it from within. Yes, the Conservatives win either way, but Boris and Farage are dangerous demagoges on a par with Trump. Kick them out, then kick out the Tories. Vote Remain, vote Art over Business, vote Hope over Hate. yes, it is far from perfect, "Even the Germans know it can't be fixed from within" Our legal system (UK) has survived for around 1000 years. The EU has been around in it's recent form maybe 50 or so. I think we can collectively renegotiate with partner nations. The EU is very good for Goldman Sachs, Bob Geldof, Richard Branson, Eurocrats in the UK governments and EU parliament etc etc but not so good for the "ordinary" citizens (by ordinary I mean those in Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Ireland, Cyprus and the UK, generally outside of London and the south east who get by on less than $2000 per month The whole thing is about loss aversion isn't it. The decision making part of the brain is more worried about loss than gain hence the negative campaigning. If I said I was voting for stay because I understand the European project and I believe in it you probably couldn't care less. Where as if I said I am voting in just because you voted our you would feel much more strongly because you feel loss. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by searchandrescue on Jun 23, 2016 10:06:58 GMT 1, yes, it is far from perfect, "Even the Germans know it can't be fixed from within" Our legal system (UK) has survived for around 1000 years. The EU has been around in it's recent form maybe 50 or so. I think we can collectively renegotiate with partner nations. The EU is very good for Goldman Sachs, Bob Geldof, Richard Branson, Eurocrats in the UK governments and EU parliament etc etc but not so good for the "ordinary" citizens (by ordinary I mean those in Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Ireland, Cyprus and the UK, generally outside of London and the south east who get by on less than $2000 per month The whole thing is about loss aversion isn't it. The decision making part of the brain is more worried about loss than gain hence the negative campaigning. If I said I was voting for stay because I understand the European project and I believe in it you probably couldn't care less. Where as if I said I am voting in just because you voted our you would feel much more strongly because you feel loss. tosspots I am a firm believer in the "European Project" I think it is a great idea and we are always better together, just not with the mechanics of the "EU" straitjacketing us or anyone else.
yes, it is far from perfect, "Even the Germans know it can't be fixed from within" Our legal system (UK) has survived for around 1000 years. The EU has been around in it's recent form maybe 50 or so. I think we can collectively renegotiate with partner nations. The EU is very good for Goldman Sachs, Bob Geldof, Richard Branson, Eurocrats in the UK governments and EU parliament etc etc but not so good for the "ordinary" citizens (by ordinary I mean those in Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Ireland, Cyprus and the UK, generally outside of London and the south east who get by on less than $2000 per month The whole thing is about loss aversion isn't it. The decision making part of the brain is more worried about loss than gain hence the negative campaigning. If I said I was voting for stay because I understand the European project and I believe in it you probably couldn't care less. Where as if I said I am voting in just because you voted our you would feel much more strongly because you feel loss. think I get you buddy, people can be contrarian, = tosspots I am a firm believer in the "European Project" I think it is a great idea and we are always better together, just not with the mechanics of the "EU" straitjacketing us or anyone else. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by dotdot on Jun 23, 2016 11:17:57 GMT 1,
be careful out there...
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Dexter Bulldog on Jun 23, 2016 12:42:37 GMT 1, what a scam.. how is there this much of a disconnect between all the polls the media shows and the bookies? polls yesterday were a coin flip and the bookies were offering 3 to 1 if you took brexit, today its 8 to 1. how do they know better than any poll conducted and with quite the conviction?
what a scam.. how is there this much of a disconnect between all the polls the media shows and the bookies? polls yesterday were a coin flip and the bookies were offering 3 to 1 if you took brexit, today its 8 to 1. how do they know better than any poll conducted and with quite the conviction?
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jun 23, 2016 12:51:52 GMT 1, Remain show as ahead on the last poll of polls -
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 13:40:16 GMT 1, I've voted. I'm in. But I feel slightly sickened by the use of our country's flag by those who would isolate us. As if to say... "I, by my vote, have my country at heart. You, with your vote and by not wearing and displaying some form of Union Jack about your person/house, are a traitor and have no thought for the future of your country." Au contraire.
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I've voted. I'm in. But I feel slightly sickened by the use of our country's flag by those who would isolate us. As if to say... "I, by my vote, have my country at heart. You, with your vote and by not wearing and displaying some form of Union Jack about your person/house, are a traitor and have no thought for the future of your country." Au contraire. ![]() |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jun 23, 2016 13:56:41 GMT 1, I wonder how many of the he thousands of UK football fans over in France and the thousands also at Glastonbury have been able to vote?
Could be a lot who didn't sort out a proxy voter.
I wonder how many of the he thousands of UK football fans over in France and the thousands also at Glastonbury have been able to vote?
Could be a lot who didn't sort out a proxy voter.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 13:59:10 GMT 1, Overheard a local TV crew interviewing a voter at my polling station, when asked why she'd voted to remain in the EU, the woman replied "because Brexit is like the rapture for morons".
Overheard a local TV crew interviewing a voter at my polling station, when asked why she'd voted to remain in the EU, the woman replied "because Brexit is like the rapture for morons".
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Harveyn on Jun 23, 2016 14:06:37 GMT 1, Its strange how our little poll does not reflect the percentages being quoted in external polls. I voted already (to remain of course) so it just a case of sitting back and watching this evening.
In the last few days the slight movement towards the remain vote has seen a significant strengthening of the £GBP. That said the market and the bookies have been known to get it wrong occasionally. I still think its going to be tight and all down to turnout.
When do we start to see feedback from the exit polls? Is there an online live update?
Its strange how our little poll does not reflect the percentages being quoted in external polls. I voted already (to remain of course) so it just a case of sitting back and watching this evening.
In the last few days the slight movement towards the remain vote has seen a significant strengthening of the £GBP. That said the market and the bookies have been known to get it wrong occasionally. I still think its going to be tight and all down to turnout.
When do we start to see feedback from the exit polls? Is there an online live update?
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jun 23, 2016 14:13:50 GMT 1, Its strange how our little poll does not reflect the percentages being quoted in external polls. I voted already (to remain of course) so it just a case of sitting back and watching this evening. In the last few days the slight movement towards the remain vote has seen a significant strengthening of the £GBP. That said the market and the bookies have been known to get it wrong occasionally. I still think its going to be tight and all down to turnout. When do we start to see feedback from the exit polls? Is there an online live update?
Worth remembering our poll here has been voted on by people worldwide 
Sounds like the counts will come in through the night and the result announced in the early morning. I hear talk or 3am onwards will be the time when it will be getting to a point when the result will start to be clear.
Its strange how our little poll does not reflect the percentages being quoted in external polls. I voted already (to remain of course) so it just a case of sitting back and watching this evening. In the last few days the slight movement towards the remain vote has seen a significant strengthening of the £GBP. That said the market and the bookies have been known to get it wrong occasionally. I still think its going to be tight and all down to turnout. When do we start to see feedback from the exit polls? Is there an online live update? Worth remembering our poll here has been voted on by people worldwide Sounds like the counts will come in through the night and the result announced in the early morning. I hear talk or 3am onwards will be the time when it will be getting to a point when the result will start to be clear. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Hubble Bubble on Jun 23, 2016 14:14:28 GMT 1, Its strange how our little poll does not reflect the percentages being quoted in external polls. I voted already (to remain of course) so it just a case of sitting back and watching this evening. In the last few days the slight movement towards the remain vote has seen a significant strengthening of the £GBP. That said the market and the bookies have been known to get it wrong occasionally. I still think its going to be tight and all down to turnout. When do we start to see feedback from the exit polls? Is there an online live update?
There are no official exit polls in this referendum.
Legislation prevents any coverage of polling and issues when the polls are open in either a general election or referendum. So any coverage is limited to photos of Farage casting his vote etc. After 10pm then predictions will be wild but apparently it won't be like General Election when an exit poll called it immediately.
Its strange how our little poll does not reflect the percentages being quoted in external polls. I voted already (to remain of course) so it just a case of sitting back and watching this evening. In the last few days the slight movement towards the remain vote has seen a significant strengthening of the £GBP. That said the market and the bookies have been known to get it wrong occasionally. I still think its going to be tight and all down to turnout. When do we start to see feedback from the exit polls? Is there an online live update? I'm not sure we are representative sample demographic, N. I suspect most folks' leanings here are leftish which is a clear indicator of 'Remain'. There are no official exit polls in this referendum. Legislation prevents any coverage of polling and issues when the polls are open in either a general election or referendum. So any coverage is limited to photos of Farage casting his vote etc. After 10pm then predictions will be wild but apparently it won't be like General Election when an exit poll called it immediately. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Harveyn on Jun 23, 2016 14:15:44 GMT 1, Its strange how our little poll does not reflect the percentages being quoted in external polls. I voted already (to remain of course) so it just a case of sitting back and watching this evening. In the last few days the slight movement towards the remain vote has seen a significant strengthening of the £GBP. That said the market and the bookies have been known to get it wrong occasionally. I still think its going to be tight and all down to turnout. When do we start to see feedback from the exit polls? Is there an online live update? Worth remembering our poll here has been voted on by people worldwide Sounds like the counts will come in through the night and the result announced in the early morning. I hear talk or 3am onwards will be the time when it will be getting to a point when the result will start to be clear.
Yes just read that there will be no exit poll like the general election because the broadcasters have no way of knowing how accurate it would be.
Prof Curtice and his team couldn’t do what they usually do, because the last referendum to compare today’s with was 41 years ago – and there wasn’t an exit poll then. There is, therefore, no baseline against which to measure how people have voted this time.
Its strange how our little poll does not reflect the percentages being quoted in external polls. I voted already (to remain of course) so it just a case of sitting back and watching this evening. In the last few days the slight movement towards the remain vote has seen a significant strengthening of the £GBP. That said the market and the bookies have been known to get it wrong occasionally. I still think its going to be tight and all down to turnout. When do we start to see feedback from the exit polls? Is there an online live update? Worth remembering our poll here has been voted on by people worldwide Sounds like the counts will come in through the night and the result announced in the early morning. I hear talk or 3am onwards will be the time when it will be getting to a point when the result will start to be clear.
Yes just read that there will be no exit poll like the general election because the broadcasters have no way of knowing how accurate it would be.
Prof Curtice and his team couldn’t do what they usually do, because the last referendum to compare today’s with was 41 years ago – and there wasn’t an exit poll then. There is, therefore, no baseline against which to measure how people have voted this time.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jun 23, 2016 14:39:14 GMT 1,
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by kaos on Jun 23, 2016 21:57:10 GMT 1, So what's your idea of a refugee Ploppi, an amputee, a paraplegic, blind, or devoid of life before one can have the honour of qualify in Ploppi's book of genuine refugees. Have a F*****g heart . Walk a mile in their shoes before you start judging... "fit healthy young men..."
So what's your idea of a refugee Ploppi, an amputee, a paraplegic, blind, or devoid of life before one can have the honour of qualify in Ploppi's book of genuine refugees. Have a F*****g heart . Walk a mile in their shoes before you start judging... "fit healthy young men..."
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 22:22:44 GMT 1, So what's your idea of a refugee Ploppi, an amputee, a paraplegic, blind, or devoid of life before one can have the honour of qualify in Ploppi's book of genuine refugees. Have a F*****g heart . Walk a mile in their shoes before you start judging... "fit healthy young men..."
A migrant is not a refugee. An economic migrant who pretends to be a refugee in order to profit financially is an opportunist.
Why have you written "an amputee, a paraplegic, blind, or devoid of life" is that some sort of point scoring game you are playing. Just making up words in order to attack me? Oscar Pistorious is an amputee, is he a refugee?
I know that some so called charities and people are making a lot of money by confusing people saying all migrants are refugees.
So now what's your idea of a refugee Kaos?
I'm looking forward to your answer.
So what's your idea of a refugee Ploppi, an amputee, a paraplegic, blind, or devoid of life before one can have the honour of qualify in Ploppi's book of genuine refugees. Have a F*****g heart . Walk a mile in their shoes before you start judging... "fit healthy young men..." a refugee is someone fleeing war or conflict in my book and should be give sanctuary in any nuetral country. A migrant is not a refugee. An economic migrant who pretends to be a refugee in order to profit financially is an opportunist. Why have you written "an amputee, a paraplegic, blind, or devoid of life" is that some sort of point scoring game you are playing. Just making up words in order to attack me? Oscar Pistorious is an amputee, is he a refugee? I know that some so called charities and people are making a lot of money by confusing people saying all migrants are refugees.
So now what's your idea of a refugee Kaos? I'm looking forward to your answer. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 22:28:14 GMT 1, World: Europe
EU Commission resigns
"The entire European Commission - the executive body of the European Union - has resigned in the wake of a damning report exposing fraud, corruption and mismanagement at senior levels.
"Everyone is going," Farm Commissioner Franz Fischler said after an emergency meeting in Brussels."
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/297461.stm
The European Commission has approved a code of conduct for staff after allegations of widespread nepotism within the European Union's powerful bureaucracy.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/289539.stm
World: Europe
EU fraud -- a billion-dollar bill
The European Commissioner responsible for reform, Neil Kinnock, has published what he calls a whistleblower's charter, offering guidelines to European Union staff who want to report suspicions of corruption.
It comes on the day of another European Commission report which said the European Union lost a billion dollars last year because of fraud and fiscal irregularities.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/528498.stm
The report said the Commission had investigated more than 5,000 cases of suspected fraud, and that its suspicions had been borne out in one in five cases.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/528763.stm
That was then and today the EU has probably got fraud down to a fine art and can cover it up more effectively.
World: Europe
EU Commission resigns
"The entire European Commission - the executive body of the European Union - has resigned in the wake of a damning report exposing fraud, corruption and mismanagement at senior levels.
"Everyone is going," Farm Commissioner Franz Fischler said after an emergency meeting in Brussels."
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/297461.stm
The European Commission has approved a code of conduct for staff after allegations of widespread nepotism within the European Union's powerful bureaucracy.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/289539.stm
World: Europe
EU fraud -- a billion-dollar bill
The European Commissioner responsible for reform, Neil Kinnock, has published what he calls a whistleblower's charter, offering guidelines to European Union staff who want to report suspicions of corruption.
It comes on the day of another European Commission report which said the European Union lost a billion dollars last year because of fraud and fiscal irregularities.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/528498.stm
The report said the Commission had investigated more than 5,000 cases of suspected fraud, and that its suspicions had been borne out in one in five cases.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/528763.stm
That was then and today the EU has probably got fraud down to a fine art and can cover it up more effectively.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by kaos on Jun 23, 2016 23:07:43 GMT 1, So what's your idea of a refugee Ploppi, an amputee, a paraplegic, blind, or devoid of life before one can have the honour of qualify in Ploppi's book of genuine refugees. Have a F*****g heart . Walk a mile in their shoes before you start judging... "fit healthy young men..." a refugee is someone fleeing war or conflict in my book and should be give sanctuary in any nuetral country. A migrant is not a refugee. An economic migrant who pretends to be a refugee in order to profit financially is an opportunist. Why have you written "an amputee, a paraplegic, blind, or devoid of life" is that some sort of point scoring game you are playing. Just making up words in order to attack me? Oscar Pistorious is an amputee, is he a refugee? I know that some so called charities and people are making a lot of money by confusing people saying all migrants are refugees.
So now what's your idea of a refugee Kaos? I'm looking forward to your answer.
So what's your idea of a refugee Ploppi, an amputee, a paraplegic, blind, or devoid of life before one can have the honour of qualify in Ploppi's book of genuine refugees. Have a F*****g heart . Walk a mile in their shoes before you start judging... "fit healthy young men..." a refugee is someone fleeing war or conflict in my book and should be give sanctuary in any nuetral country. A migrant is not a refugee. An economic migrant who pretends to be a refugee in order to profit financially is an opportunist. Why have you written "an amputee, a paraplegic, blind, or devoid of life" is that some sort of point scoring game you are playing. Just making up words in order to attack me? Oscar Pistorious is an amputee, is he a refugee? I know that some so called charities and people are making a lot of money by confusing people saying all migrants are refugees.
So now what's your idea of a refugee Kaos? I'm looking forward to your answer. I used those terms in response to your comments as quoted above "fit healthy young men". I have no desire or hunger for scoring points, from what I see of your posts it is you who is always trying to score points in whatever the subject. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jun 23, 2016 23:38:16 GMT 1, The impression they are giving on the TVs this evening is how the campaigners are surprised how many leave voters they are meeting in areas that they expected to be remain. It sounds like the turnout is very high, so difficult to predict.
The impression they are giving on the TVs this evening is how the campaigners are surprised how many leave voters they are meeting in areas that they expected to be remain. It sounds like the turnout is very high, so difficult to predict.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Hubble Bubble on Jun 23, 2016 23:53:08 GMT 1, The impression they are giving on the TVs this evening is how the campaigners are surprised how many leave voters they are meeting in areas that they expected to be remain. It sounds like the turnout is very high, so difficult to predict.
It seems exactly the opposite to me, Dan. It seems everybody is predicting quite easily. Whether they're right or not remains to be seen but everyone I've seen is predicting Remain.
The impression they are giving on the TVs this evening is how the campaigners are surprised how many leave voters they are meeting in areas that they expected to be remain. It sounds like the turnout is very high, so difficult to predict. It seems exactly the opposite to me, Dan. It seems everybody is predicting quite easily. Whether they're right or not remains to be seen but everyone I've seen is predicting Remain. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Jun 23, 2016 23:56:10 GMT 1, Looking like 52 remain and 48 out and farage making his excuses speech already. But Newcastle result could be worryingly close it seems.
Looking like 52 remain and 48 out and farage making his excuses speech already. But Newcastle result could be worryingly close it seems.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jun 24, 2016 0:00:04 GMT 1, The impression they are giving on the TVs this evening is how the campaigners are surprised how many leave voters they are meeting in areas that they expected to be remain. It sounds like the turnout is very high, so difficult to predict. It seems exactly the opposite to me, Dan. It seems everybody is predicting quite easily. Whether they're right or not remains to be seen but everyone I've seen is predicting Remain.
I agree  most are predicting Remain, and I have already said many times on this thread that I expect a Remain win. What I said was on TV they are talking about the unexpected number of Leave voters the Remain campaigners have been meeting on the streets in places they didn't expect.
The impression they are giving on the TVs this evening is how the campaigners are surprised how many leave voters they are meeting in areas that they expected to be remain. It sounds like the turnout is very high, so difficult to predict. It seems exactly the opposite to me, Dan. It seems everybody is predicting quite easily. Whether they're right or not remains to be seen but everyone I've seen is predicting Remain. I agree most are predicting Remain, and I have already said many times on this thread that I expect a Remain win. What I said was on TV they are talking about the unexpected number of Leave voters the Remain campaigners have been meeting on the streets in places they didn't expect. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 0:01:34 GMT 1, Newcastle result very close. I think that actually is better for leave considering that the experts were expecting around 60% for remain
Newcastle result very close. I think that actually is better for leave considering that the experts were expecting around 60% for remain
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 24, 2016 0:07:03 GMT 1, Fuck. Not good.
Fuck. Not good.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Cornish Crayon on Jun 24, 2016 0:08:58 GMT 1,
Your getting right into this ain't you coach  lol
Your getting right into this ain't you coach lol |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 24, 2016 0:14:46 GMT 1, Your getting right into this ain't you coach lol
After tomorrow I'll stop, I promise.
It will be back to the art.
Just now it's about our future, and more importantly, our kid's future.
I'm scared.
Your getting right into this ain't you coach lol After tomorrow I'll stop, I promise. It will be back to the art. Just now it's about our future, and more importantly, our kid's future. I'm scared. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by RoboJ on Jun 24, 2016 0:21:55 GMT 1, I'm with you coach. Really concerning.
I'm with you coach. Really concerning.
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most are predicting Remain, and I have already said many times on this thread that I expect a Remain win. What I said was on TV they are talking about the unexpected number of Leave voters the Remain campaigners have been meeting on the streets in places they didn't expect.
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