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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by searchandrescue on Jun 24, 2016 16:24:08 GMT 1, Once the markets and currency stop yo -yoing and the politicians on both sides run out of bluster the aftermath of today's result will be fasinating. Being Irish I feel we'll feel a significant negative blow back to this decision - particularly our agriculture and manufacturing export industry. I also think the peace process in the North has been grown and strenghtened on cross border networking and joint up thinking between the two governments on the basis' of there being no border. One of the ironic results of the 'little Englander' UKIP vote is that they may have done more to further the cause of Irish nationalism and unification than the IRA ever achieved. For the first time ever it may actually make a tiny bit of economic sense for the North to join the Republic.... Interesting times.
"For the first time ever it may actually make a tiny bit of economic sense for the North to join the Republic.... "
So now it's economics that's driving that stance?? So the other aspects weren't as important all that time??? Wow....as you say interesting times.
Kindest Regards,
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Once the markets and currency stop yo -yoing and the politicians on both sides run out of bluster the aftermath of today's result will be fasinating. Being Irish I feel we'll feel a significant negative blow back to this decision - particularly our agriculture and manufacturing export industry. I also think the peace process in the North has been grown and strenghtened on cross border networking and joint up thinking between the two governments on the basis' of there being no border. One of the ironic results of the 'little Englander' UKIP vote is that they may have done more to further the cause of Irish nationalism and unification than the IRA ever achieved. For the first time ever it may actually make a tiny bit of economic sense for the North to join the Republic.... Interesting times. Peace to you my fellow UAA member, appreciate your thoughts on this issue. Good to get lots of views of what's going on. Not happy with the label "Little Englander" UKIP being used, I think that does many of those who voted a disservice. "For the first time ever it may actually make a tiny bit of economic sense for the North to join the Republic.... " So now it's economics that's driving that stance?? So the other aspects weren't as important all that time??? Wow....as you say interesting times. Kindest Regards, SAR |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by lee3 on Jun 24, 2016 16:35:36 GMT 1, Young generation in the UK - we won't forget you! Stay strong in the years to come! HOW AGES VOTED (YouGov poll) 18-24: 75% Remain 25-49: 56% Remain 50-64: 44% Remain 65+: 39% Remain 
To Wear's point regarding art above, my hunch is that it's a very short term reaction. Anyone that bought modern art or prints this week in London is rather happy. Conversely those sellers are not but there is nothing they can do. I would also expect to see a significant increase in withdrawn lots from next week's London contemporary sales. Apart from that, I can't see too many other ripples but I could well be shortsighted.
Young generation in the UK - we won't forget you! Stay strong in the years to come! HOW AGES VOTED (YouGov poll) 18-24: 75% Remain 25-49: 56% Remain 50-64: 44% Remain 65+: 39% Remain Thanks for posting this. I've always been a stern believer in the adage that with age comes wisdom. I don't know what to make of that at the moment. My knee jerk is that perhaps I should question that proverb? And on the other hand I have to wonder just what I am missing that the "elderly" appear to see decisively? To Wear's point regarding art above, my hunch is that it's a very short term reaction. Anyone that bought modern art or prints this week in London is rather happy. Conversely those sellers are not but there is nothing they can do. I would also expect to see a significant increase in withdrawn lots from next week's London contemporary sales. Apart from that, I can't see too many other ripples but I could well be shortsighted. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by dasium on Jun 24, 2016 17:02:55 GMT 1, Initially when the campaign started I would never have used a quip like 'little Englander' to generalise the leave voters but as the rhetoric desended in to jingoistic, rule Britannia type talk it seems apt to make the generalisation. Obviously being a generalisation it doesn't account for all the reasons of every voter so apologies - no offence intended. Call it an observation from a detached person who followed the referendum with interest.
Constitutional referendums are a regular occurrence this side of the Irish sea, don't for a second think a similar referendum wouldn't decent into scare tactics and questionable debate either from both sides. The recent marriage equality referendum had some ridiculous scare mongering.
Regarding the economic statement, at no point could the republic ever afford to sustain the cost of incorporating the north . Even moderate nationalists in Northern Ireland would have realised this. Potentially this decision 'might' create the economic climate that neutralises that issue. Undoubted Foreign direct investment in Ireland especially from the 'city of London' financial sector will increase as the only English speaking member of the EU and it's common market. That's in the medium to long term - short term we'll equally be negatively affected.
Initially when the campaign started I would never have used a quip like 'little Englander' to generalise the leave voters but as the rhetoric desended in to jingoistic, rule Britannia type talk it seems apt to make the generalisation. Obviously being a generalisation it doesn't account for all the reasons of every voter so apologies - no offence intended. Call it an observation from a detached person who followed the referendum with interest.
Constitutional referendums are a regular occurrence this side of the Irish sea, don't for a second think a similar referendum wouldn't decent into scare tactics and questionable debate either from both sides. The recent marriage equality referendum had some ridiculous scare mongering.
Regarding the economic statement, at no point could the republic ever afford to sustain the cost of incorporating the north . Even moderate nationalists in Northern Ireland would have realised this. Potentially this decision 'might' create the economic climate that neutralises that issue. Undoubted Foreign direct investment in Ireland especially from the 'city of London' financial sector will increase as the only English speaking member of the EU and it's common market. That's in the medium to long term - short term we'll equally be negatively affected.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by searchandrescue on Jun 24, 2016 18:02:29 GMT 1, Initially when the campaign started I would never have used a quip like 'little Englander' to generalise the leave voters but as the rhetoric desended in to jingoistic, rule Britannia type talk it seems apt to make the generalisation. Obviously being a generalisation it doesn't account for all the reasons of every voter so apologies - no offence intended. Call it an observation from a detached person who followed the referendum with interest. Constitutional referendums are a regular occurrence this side of the Irish sea, don't for a second think a similar referendum wouldn't decent into scare tactics and questionable debate either from both sides. The recent marriage equality referendum had some ridiculous scare mongering. Regarding the economic statement, at no point could the republic ever afford to sustain the cost of incorporating the north . Even moderate nationalists in Northern Ireland would have realised this. Potentially this decision 'might' create the economic climate that neutralises that issue. Undoubted Foreign direct investment in Ireland especially from the 'city of London' financial sector will increase as the only English speaking member of the EU and it's common market. That's in the medium to long term - short term we'll equally be negatively affected.
Initially when the campaign started I would never have used a quip like 'little Englander' to generalise the leave voters but as the rhetoric desended in to jingoistic, rule Britannia type talk it seems apt to make the generalisation. Obviously being a generalisation it doesn't account for all the reasons of every voter so apologies - no offence intended. Call it an observation from a detached person who followed the referendum with interest. Constitutional referendums are a regular occurrence this side of the Irish sea, don't for a second think a similar referendum wouldn't decent into scare tactics and questionable debate either from both sides. The recent marriage equality referendum had some ridiculous scare mongering. Regarding the economic statement, at no point could the republic ever afford to sustain the cost of incorporating the north . Even moderate nationalists in Northern Ireland would have realised this. Potentially this decision 'might' create the economic climate that neutralises that issue. Undoubted Foreign direct investment in Ireland especially from the 'city of London' financial sector will increase as the only English speaking member of the EU and it's common market. That's in the medium to long term - short term we'll equally be negatively affected. thanks so much, really appreciated. SAr |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by onetwothree on Jun 24, 2016 18:11:26 GMT 1, Little Englanders are definately a thing! Sadly. Its not new, just usually countered massively by London.
Little Englanders are definately a thing! Sadly. Its not new, just usually countered massively by London.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by loother on Jun 24, 2016 18:25:34 GMT 1, I met a man who offered to sell me and my neighbours a goat for just £5.
I don't want a goat, I said. Goats just sh!t everywhere and eat things.
The goat-seller smiled, and told us my fears were groundless. He promised us this was a special sh!tless goat with impeccable table manners, and my neighbours really wanted a goat, especially a sh!tless one.
But when the goat-seller arrived with our new goat, it shat on my doorstep and ate my trouser leg. My neighbours realised they had been mis-sold the goat and hid in the loo.
And now I'm stuck with the sh!tless goat-seller's sh!tty goat.
I met a man who offered to sell me and my neighbours a goat for just £5.
I don't want a goat, I said. Goats just sh!t everywhere and eat things.
The goat-seller smiled, and told us my fears were groundless. He promised us this was a special sh!tless goat with impeccable table manners, and my neighbours really wanted a goat, especially a sh!tless one.
But when the goat-seller arrived with our new goat, it shat on my doorstep and ate my trouser leg. My neighbours realised they had been mis-sold the goat and hid in the loo.
And now I'm stuck with the sh!tless goat-seller's sh!tty goat.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by onetwothree on Jun 24, 2016 18:32:04 GMT 1, I met a man who offered to sell me and my neighbours a goat for just £5. I don't want a goat, I said. Goats just sh!t everywhere and eat things. The goat-seller smiled, and told us my fears were groundless. He promised us this was a special sh!tless goat with impeccable table manners, and my neighbours really wanted a goat, especially a sh!tless one. But when the goat-seller arrived with our new goat, it shat on my doorstep and ate my trouser leg. My neighbours realised they had been mis-sold the goat and hid in the loo. And now I'm stuck with the sh!tless goat-seller's sh!tty goat
Kill the fukker. Eat it. Move on! Ha
I met a man who offered to sell me and my neighbours a goat for just £5. I don't want a goat, I said. Goats just sh!t everywhere and eat things. The goat-seller smiled, and told us my fears were groundless. He promised us this was a special sh!tless goat with impeccable table manners, and my neighbours really wanted a goat, especially a sh!tless one. But when the goat-seller arrived with our new goat, it shat on my doorstep and ate my trouser leg. My neighbours realised they had been mis-sold the goat and hid in the loo. And now I'm stuck with the sh!tless goat-seller's sh!tty goat Kill the fukker. Eat it. Move on! Ha |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by onetwothree on Jun 24, 2016 18:33:02 GMT 1, Why does shit get blanked but not fucker? wierd
Why does shit get blanked but not fucker? wierd
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Jun 24, 2016 19:36:09 GMT 1, Little Englanders are definately a thing! Sadly. Its not new, just usually countered massively by London.
True , and especially in Barnsley with 75% out. The little interviews I saw from residents about immigrants and one guy saying 'get the Muslims out'(?)...but these are the inbred little Englanders that got here...the economy will hit them hardest ...oh well, made their fucking bed.
Little Englanders are definately a thing! Sadly. Its not new, just usually countered massively by London. True , and especially in Barnsley with 75% out. The little interviews I saw from residents about immigrants and one guy saying 'get the Muslims out'(?)...but these are the inbred little Englanders that got here...the economy will hit them hardest ...oh well, made their fucking bed. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Lroy on Jun 24, 2016 19:43:32 GMT 1, Funny that Banksy did not tell about Brexit ...
Ok he likes Glastonbury , enjoying music and drinking beers ( as all of us, just some have some lucks and coins to go there ) , but I thought that he liked kids before all ...
As me.
Those voting " out Europe " did not think about their kids as all the old c**t and egoists, they just thought about their pint and pounds, and did not think a second to their own kids. Or to the kids of all the nations
Europe now is fragile ...
Putin will be happy ! Ukip and Marine Le Pen too !
Did those fascists during wars were ( are ) thinking To their kids ?
Nope, they give their own flesh to the guns, just because they were conformists, nationalists, adults and/or bosses, they never liked their kids, they just thought to their own hates and fears ! Cowards !
Funny that Banksy did not tell about Brexit ...
Ok he likes Glastonbury , enjoying music and drinking beers ( as all of us, just some have some lucks and coins to go there ) , but I thought that he liked kids before all ...
As me.
Those voting " out Europe " did not think about their kids as all the old c**t and egoists, they just thought about their pint and pounds, and did not think a second to their own kids. Or to the kids of all the nations
Europe now is fragile ...
Putin will be happy ! Ukip and Marine Le Pen too !
Did those fascists during wars were ( are ) thinking To their kids ?
Nope, they give their own flesh to the guns, just because they were conformists, nationalists, adults and/or bosses, they never liked their kids, they just thought to their own hates and fears ! Cowards !
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 20:25:41 GMT 1, Little Englanders are definately a thing! Sadly. Its not new, just usually countered massively by London. True , and especially in Barnsley with 75% out. The little interviews I saw from residents about immigrants and one guy saying 'get the Muslims out'(?)...but these are the inbred little Englanders that got here...the economy will hit them hardest ...oh well, made their f**kingbed.
Unfortunately they have made the bed for lots of us, thats democracy for you.
Little Englanders are definately a thing! Sadly. Its not new, just usually countered massively by London. True , and especially in Barnsley with 75% out. The little interviews I saw from residents about immigrants and one guy saying 'get the Muslims out'(?)...but these are the inbred little Englanders that got here...the economy will hit them hardest ...oh well, made their f**kingbed. Unfortunately they have made the bed for lots of us, thats democracy for you. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Harveyn on Jun 24, 2016 20:42:28 GMT 1, Democracy has spoken. Whilst I am tired and very disappointed having stayed up all night, for the UK now is a time for positivity. The decision is made so all parties need to work together to get the best deal they can for the electorate.
For me it's also a fairly monumental moment in my life. Having been born and having lived in N Ireland all my life I have to say not once have I felt a deep passion for a United Ireland, despite having grown up through the troubles. My wife is from the South and likewise in the last decade being part of the UK and EU has worked for us.
Today for the first time my world has changed. I sincerely believe and hope the result of today's decision is a huge step towards a United Ireland. Not because of any deep routed nationalistic tendencies but just because I believe in the EU, collaborative thinking, the bigger picture and the collective good. It's a family I would rather be part of than not.
It's been a strange day in my life.
Democracy has spoken. Whilst I am tired and very disappointed having stayed up all night, for the UK now is a time for positivity. The decision is made so all parties need to work together to get the best deal they can for the electorate.
For me it's also a fairly monumental moment in my life. Having been born and having lived in N Ireland all my life I have to say not once have I felt a deep passion for a United Ireland, despite having grown up through the troubles. My wife is from the South and likewise in the last decade being part of the UK and EU has worked for us.
Today for the first time my world has changed. I sincerely believe and hope the result of today's decision is a huge step towards a United Ireland. Not because of any deep routed nationalistic tendencies but just because I believe in the EU, collaborative thinking, the bigger picture and the collective good. It's a family I would rather be part of than not.
It's been a strange day in my life.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 20:58:45 GMT 1, It was the Leave banner on UAA that put it over the top 
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jun 24, 2016 21:30:47 GMT 1,
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 21:37:23 GMT 1, Why do those in favor of staying in the EU keep saying that this is the ruin of children and their future?
As one who voted to remain I dont recall saying that myself but maybe its what those folks who you say are saying it believe; in much the same way as many of those who voted to leave believe what Gove, Johnson and even Nigel Farage have said.
Why do those in favor of staying in the EU keep saying that this is the ruin of children and their future? As one who voted to remain I dont recall saying that myself but maybe its what those folks who you say are saying it believe; in much the same way as many of those who voted to leave believe what Gove, Johnson and even Nigel Farage have said. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by .dappy on Jun 24, 2016 21:47:13 GMT 1, ... old news now ... I suppose ... but look at the people who are happy that we have left ...
http://instagram.com/p/BG9mO0gLzst
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Jun 24, 2016 21:57:33 GMT 1,
Labour with corbyn at the helm is totally unelectable. I think labour will need to look at the next generation to get a strong enough opposition come general election.
Labour with corbyn at the helm is totally unelectable. I think labour will need to look at the next generation to get a strong enough opposition come general election. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Jun 24, 2016 22:05:19 GMT 1, Corbyn still lives in a some socialist utopia, he's not a moderniser, and silences anyone opposing him. I can see him being dragged away kicking and screaming. Poor leadership skills as shown as by his woeful 'pro eu' stance. I have zero confidence in him, and so do an increasing number of his MP's it seems
Corbyn still lives in a some socialist utopia, he's not a moderniser, and silences anyone opposing him. I can see him being dragged away kicking and screaming. Poor leadership skills as shown as by his woeful 'pro eu' stance. I have zero confidence in him, and so do an increasing number of his MP's it seems
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 24, 2016 22:13:09 GMT 1, Corbyn still lives in a some socialist utopia, he's not a moderniser, and silences anyone opposing him. I can see him being dragged away kicking and screaming. Poor leadership skills as shown as by his woeful 'pro eu' stance. I have zero confidence in him, and so do an increasing number of his MP's it seems
He was also a joke candidate for leadership, oh how we laughed.
unelectable is such a massive soundbite, but its nothing more than that.
Corbyn still lives in a some socialist utopia, he's not a moderniser, and silences anyone opposing him. I can see him being dragged away kicking and screaming. Poor leadership skills as shown as by his woeful 'pro eu' stance. I have zero confidence in him, and so do an increasing number of his MP's it seems unlike the public who are signing that petition by the thousands. He was also a joke candidate for leadership, oh how we laughed. unelectable is such a massive soundbite, but its nothing more than that. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Jun 24, 2016 22:24:08 GMT 1, Corbyn still lives in a some socialist utopia, he's not a moderniser, and silences anyone opposing him. I can see him being dragged away kicking and screaming. Poor leadership skills as shown as by his woeful 'pro eu' stance. I have zero confidence in him, and so do an increasing number of his MP's it seems unlike the public who are signing that petition by the thousands. He was also a joke candidate for leadership, oh how we laughed. unelectable is such a massive soundbite, but its nothing more than that.
No more than a sound bite than any other word that can be labelled as such.
It was a natural lunge to the left by the surge in young membership that got him there.
Zero leadership in opposition and zero leadership for remain. They are the facts. He's a laughing stock and UNELECTABLE. His days are numbered, im sorry to tell you.
Until someone who has broad appeal, more inclusive, wants to talk about difficult subjects like immigration like UKIP (where many labour have defected), more centrist, then a perpetual Tory government will remain. Corbyn lost this referendum to ukip and their ilk.
If you want more sound bites, utopian corbyn is your man. An absolute joke.
Corbyn still lives in a some socialist utopia, he's not a moderniser, and silences anyone opposing him. I can see him being dragged away kicking and screaming. Poor leadership skills as shown as by his woeful 'pro eu' stance. I have zero confidence in him, and so do an increasing number of his MP's it seems unlike the public who are signing that petition by the thousands. He was also a joke candidate for leadership, oh how we laughed. unelectable is such a massive soundbite, but its nothing more than that. No more than a sound bite than any other word that can be labelled as such. It was a natural lunge to the left by the surge in young membership that got him there. Zero leadership in opposition and zero leadership for remain. They are the facts. He's a laughing stock and UNELECTABLE. His days are numbered, im sorry to tell you. Until someone who has broad appeal, more inclusive, wants to talk about difficult subjects like immigration like UKIP (where many labour have defected), more centrist, then a perpetual Tory government will remain. Corbyn lost this referendum to ukip and their ilk. If you want more sound bites, utopian corbyn is your man. An absolute joke. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by dasium on Jun 24, 2016 22:49:27 GMT 1, Democracy has spoken. Whilst I am tired and very disappointed having stayed up all night, for the UK now is a time for positivity. The decision is made so all parties need to work together to get the best deal they can for the electorate. For me it's also a fairly monumental moment in my life. Having been born and having lived in N Ireland all my life I have to say not once have I felt a deep passion for a United Ireland, despite having grown up through the troubles. My wife is from the South and likewise in the last decade being part of the UK and EU has worked for us. Today for the first time my world has changed. I sincerely believe and hope the result of today's decision is a huge step towards a United Ireland. Not because of any deep routed nationalistic tendencies but just because I believe in the EU, collaborative thinking, the bigger picture and the collective good. It's a family I would rather be part of than not. It's been a strange day in my life.
An article that maybe of interest. Rarely if ever have I agreed with Finton O'Toole but on this occasion I think it resonates. While the leave vote was the last stand by the vestiges of a long gone empire it disregarded the one great tradition of that era that remained... it's diplomacy. It has not left itself isolated to the world.
gu.com/p/4my3c/fb
Democracy has spoken. Whilst I am tired and very disappointed having stayed up all night, for the UK now is a time for positivity. The decision is made so all parties need to work together to get the best deal they can for the electorate. For me it's also a fairly monumental moment in my life. Having been born and having lived in N Ireland all my life I have to say not once have I felt a deep passion for a United Ireland, despite having grown up through the troubles. My wife is from the South and likewise in the last decade being part of the UK and EU has worked for us. Today for the first time my world has changed. I sincerely believe and hope the result of today's decision is a huge step towards a United Ireland. Not because of any deep routed nationalistic tendencies but just because I believe in the EU, collaborative thinking, the bigger picture and the collective good. It's a family I would rather be part of than not. It's been a strange day in my life. An article that maybe of interest. Rarely if ever have I agreed with Finton O'Toole but on this occasion I think it resonates. While the leave vote was the last stand by the vestiges of a long gone empire it disregarded the one great tradition of that era that remained... it's diplomacy. It has not left itself isolated to the world. gu.com/p/4my3c/fb |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 24, 2016 22:55:33 GMT 1, unlike the public who are signing that petition by the thousands. He was also a joke candidate for leadership, oh how we laughed. unelectable is such a massive soundbite, but its nothing more than that. No more than a sound bite than any other word that can be labelled as such. It was a natural lunge to the left by the surge in young membership that got him there. Zero leadership in opposition and zero leadership for remain. They are the facts. He's a laughing stock and UNELECTABLE. His days are numbered, im sorry to tell you. Until someone who has broad appeal, more inclusive, wants to talk about difficult subjects like immigration like UKIP (where many labour have defected), more centrist, then a perpetual Tory government will remain. Corbyn lost this referendum to ukip and their ilk. If you want more sound bites, utopian corbyn is your man. An absolute joke.
You didn't want to be out of Europe either, how did that go for you?
unlike the public who are signing that petition by the thousands. He was also a joke candidate for leadership, oh how we laughed. unelectable is such a massive soundbite, but its nothing more than that. No more than a sound bite than any other word that can be labelled as such. It was a natural lunge to the left by the surge in young membership that got him there. Zero leadership in opposition and zero leadership for remain. They are the facts. He's a laughing stock and UNELECTABLE. His days are numbered, im sorry to tell you. Until someone who has broad appeal, more inclusive, wants to talk about difficult subjects like immigration like UKIP (where many labour have defected), more centrist, then a perpetual Tory government will remain. Corbyn lost this referendum to ukip and their ilk. If you want more sound bites, utopian corbyn is your man. An absolute joke. you don't like him, i get it. Plenty people do, that makes him, electable. You didn't want to be out of Europe either, how did that go for you? |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Jun 24, 2016 23:10:42 GMT 1, No more than a sound bite than any other word that can be labelled as such. It was a natural lunge to the left by the surge in young membership that got him there. Zero leadership in opposition and zero leadership for remain. They are the facts. He's a laughing stock and UNELECTABLE. His days are numbered, im sorry to tell you. Until someone who has broad appeal, more inclusive, wants to talk about difficult subjects like immigration like UKIP (where many labour have defected), more centrist, then a perpetual Tory government will remain. Corbyn lost this referendum to ukip and their ilk. If you want more sound bites, utopian corbyn is your man. An absolute joke. you don't like him, i get it. Plenty people do, that makes him, electable. You didn't want to be out of Europe either, how did that go for you?
I don't particularly dislike him, but you haven't answered my points. He came due to a surge in youth membership and the left's 2 fingers up to the Tory, to counter ukip on the other side
Do you think he did his part on this referendum? Because most sane people don't. Do you?
He has lost confidence in his shadow cabinet and MPs . His ratings have dropped. He already has a vote of no confidence.
Your man will be out by year end, sorry to say.
Perhaps then labour can regroup to the centre.
Your leader is doing a great job by silencing critics in his party, losing labour areas to ukip and putting on a pathetic 'seven and a half out of ten ' (his words) pro EU argument. He is just as out of touch as the Tory's because he failed to confront many labour heartland worries such as immigration.
Feel free to write more than a few sentences, unless you're still conceding this being the reality. Making him popular among the young WON'T him elections where older electorate usually vote.
No more than a sound bite than any other word that can be labelled as such. It was a natural lunge to the left by the surge in young membership that got him there. Zero leadership in opposition and zero leadership for remain. They are the facts. He's a laughing stock and UNELECTABLE. His days are numbered, im sorry to tell you. Until someone who has broad appeal, more inclusive, wants to talk about difficult subjects like immigration like UKIP (where many labour have defected), more centrist, then a perpetual Tory government will remain. Corbyn lost this referendum to ukip and their ilk. If you want more sound bites, utopian corbyn is your man. An absolute joke. you don't like him, i get it. Plenty people do, that makes him, electable. You didn't want to be out of Europe either, how did that go for you? I don't particularly dislike him, but you haven't answered my points. He came due to a surge in youth membership and the left's 2 fingers up to the Tory, to counter ukip on the other side Do you think he did his part on this referendum? Because most sane people don't. Do you? He has lost confidence in his shadow cabinet and MPs . His ratings have dropped. He already has a vote of no confidence. Your man will be out by year end, sorry to say. Perhaps then labour can regroup to the centre. Your leader is doing a great job by silencing critics in his party, losing labour areas to ukip and putting on a pathetic 'seven and a half out of ten ' (his words) pro EU argument. He is just as out of touch as the Tory's because he failed to confront many labour heartland worries such as immigration. Feel free to write more than a few sentences, unless you're still conceding this being the reality. Making him popular among the young WON'T him elections where older electorate usually vote. |
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.dappy
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by .dappy on Jun 24, 2016 23:12:46 GMT 1, ... £350m to the NHS ... the next day: Eerrrr Nop!
... £350m to the NHS ... the next day: Eerrrr Nop!
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jun 24, 2016 23:14:47 GMT 1, you don't like him, i get it. Plenty people do, that makes him, electable. You didn't want to be out of Europe either, how did that go for you? Feel free to write more than a few sentences, unless you're still conceding this being the reality. .
Really? you want to bolster your case based on the length of my response? different.
you don't like him, i get it. Plenty people do, that makes him, electable. You didn't want to be out of Europe either, how did that go for you? Feel free to write more than a few sentences, unless you're still conceding this being the reality. . Really? you want to bolster your case based on the length of my response? different. |
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And so it all starts to unravel......... |
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