Does that mean you can't wait for Britain to send back all the Europeans to their home countries in Europe too? More than 1.2 mil.

There is no such thing or country as a full member of the EU.

The EU constantly changes it's rules for membership.

Interesting to note that, there is very little attempt to understand WHY immigration is such an issue and has such traction. Here is my £0.02

If you have you have a roof over your head, food on the table and small improvements in living - it feels like the sun is shining on your face and you have HOPE. Armed with hope, your reaction to immigration is "Come in the water is warm", this was the basis of the American dream.

If you have had no pay rise since 2008, and the industry around you is declining, the contracts and jobs are zero hour sh*t and all the good jobs move to London. You want to know "where's my share?". and if the lady who serves you in the pub is from Lithuania? Well, you never wanted her late night, long hour, minimum wage job but she is the face of what has changed.

Meanwhile, you constantly see others making and taking millions. The response from the policymakers has been, "Trust capitalism - it will trickle down". It has not. The equity Gap has grown, the (rising) cost of a house is 10x the (stagnant) average family income and the NHS, educational and social services are NHS are on their knees. So where is the money going?

The truth is the rich do not share the wealth - they lock it up, off shore/tax free if possible, or worse use it to buy up scarce necessities - housing, and sell these back to the rest at inflated prices to sucking up what little sun they had in their lives with ridiculous rents. Is it any surprise people are pissed off?

financial squeeze and increasing in-equity
+
poor policy
= dissatisfaction
+
Politicians not prepared to take the blame and irresponsible jingoistic press
= anti immigration sentiment

You can fix any part of the equation, it is just immigration is not the cause.

Sure, can't wait to fill the free jobs with British. 

It gets blocked by a human on a Saturday afternoon who could be doing other things like watching soccer / futbol on the tele.  instead of cleaning up after grown ups : ) 

 Brexit.

 

Listening to a bit of LBC radio today. A young man, school leaver was saying that his generation have lost opportunities and a part of their future. Now not being able to benefit from travel and live and work in Europe freely.

Then some toffy nosed toff phoned in and said Brexit ha screated opportunities because now the UK can trade with Africa and are not now bound by EU rules. What bizarre logic unless of course the Brexit brigade have just discovered a huge opportunity they can make millions from for themselves.





Plus Farage has stated publicly that a Brexit means that the UK can accept more migrants from Africa. Would that be via LIbya and Italy I wonder, but snake toungue Farage never went into detail. He and Blow Jo (next Tory leader) make vague statements and never back them up.



The majority of young people in the UK would benefit more from Europe than from Africa.

The UK has been doing trade with Africa for decades and Africa is very well developed today and some parts are run down which is due to conflict caused by corruption.

Mandela when president of South Africa did nothing to improve the quality of life for the poor in South Africa.

Dan Hannen now says Brexit will not prevent or limit migration into the UK.


In a nutshell the Brexit anti immigration stance was targeted at eastern european migrants into the EU and Labour supported it.

hahaha please do.

In fact, you don't have to give me any money, just give me all of your Banksys.

Where's Guy Fawkes when you need him?  It's shameful watching this bunch of idiots attempting to absolve themselves of any responsibility, not a clue.....none of them.  Instead of getting my head around it I'm getting more and more wound up by their stupidity and blatant disregard for future generations.  Shouldn't they already all be locked up for tax fraud or the like?

* tried to attach C4 news clip although it's account only so won't show up on here.  If you can bare to watch here's a link.
www.channel4.com/news/catch-up/display/playlistref/250616

I've given up caring - best just to watch the madness unfold. 

Think Nov 5th is pencilled in this year for exciting celebrations around Parliament, particularly as it falls on a Saturday. 

And Killing Joke in Brixton the night before.

People have raised concerns with regard to democracy and the European Union.
To me, this has seemed somewhat disingenuine, when the house of lords is not democratically elected by the populous.
Also, I have recently come to question if one principality, governed by an unelected government of another principality, is really that democratic. I don't personally believe that this does constitute democracy, and consider the lack of proportional representation a failure of democracy. So yes, democracy has failed, or rather the democracy we had or have, is a very limited and selective one in the first place.

Furthermore, I blame in part, this failure of democracy, Whereby time and again the wishes of the peoples of an entire principality are ignored. 'The Ignorant', my fellow countrymen have had their say, and misused their vote as one of protest, against a system of gross political inequality. Unfortunately they were not so alone in this, as the not so ignored also decided to join them. Who will pay the greatest price? Scotland seems to be heading towards a second referendum, and where will that leave Wales? Going cap in hand to a Tory Westminster government, who can now treat some of the poorest sections of society even more shoddily.

so if fault is to be found, who is responsible for this misuse of the EU vote? Well, surely the ignorant eh?
Yes. People should seek to educate themselves, even if it's only a little, that's true enough.

I'm left questioning how so many people, The Ignorant, my fellow countrymen, in my own principality, became so ignorant in the first place. Were they born this way, or has social engineering had something to do with it. Apathy, resentment, frustration, poverty, political inequality, and a lack of adaquate representation, such as a parliament for example.

For out voters to of cried so loudly about the said lack of democracy with regard to Europe does seem a little on the hypocritical side, although understandable. That's the hardest part about this referendum result, I understand all too well why people voted out. Does this mean that we will have democracy now then, or more democracy, a successful full democracy? One that nurtures the better aspects of humanity, rather than arms dealing, greed, and tax evasion? Or will the poor, be forced even further to pi55 on their own chips.

I'm no nationalist by the way, and have a carbon footprint as big as yeti's.

Also, on the subject of failed democracy, Whilst many are not old enough to vote, and I am aware of a few voices of dissent, I can't help but question the wisdom, or lack of it, of a country that ignores the voice of a whole generation. Has this country done so at its peril? Has this country done at a price, we don't yet know of?

I just feel angry and disillusioned that so many adults, could be so pig headed as to completely ignore their kids, who are undoubtedly far brighter. Ever feel you been cheated? Yeah, used, screwed, and hung out to dry.

Following your example urbanartassociation.com/user/3570/recent

Footage just in of post-Brexit meeting:

haters ? :-)