It's not looking great.
Fairly stark cautions from the Bank of England yesterday of huge job loses. That was my greatest concern.

None of the reports I was reading suggested an overnight collapse.

They're having problems recruiting people ( civil servants ) to do the negotiating. For a number of reasons - there aren't that many suitably qualified to deal with the subject matter, and to be experts on a lot of the issues involved; secondly, a lot of civil servants were against the leaving so don't want to get involved; thirdly, it'll involve a long time away for not much extra money; fourthly, if they cock it'll up it'll be held against them. 
Who'd want that job, with the responsibility that follows? 

The calm before the storm mate. 

All those responsible for the lies have run away. It's pure comedy, and this country gets what it deserves.

But hey, we've got control....ah..wait a minute....

Whether it's the right decision for the country only time will tell, and personally speaking I'm not that bothered which way it goes. Personally, I think it's sad that Britain has fallen for the lies that lead too the vote. I'm also very angry that those responsible for the Remain campaign were so incompetent that they couldn't sell the benefits.

But just think on these issues, as examples.

The EU provide some of the most stringent legislation on the protection of wildlife. For example, they pay farmers to maintain wild areas around their crops that allow wild life to flourish. Without this money, farmers will be forced to plough this land to maximise their crops.

Do you really think this govt will protect our wildlife? Leaving the EU puts all this at risk, and it's highly doubtful that our govt will see this as a priority, thus exposing our wildlife to exploitation.

It's all very well to say that we can negotiate our own free trade deals, but other country's are dependent on the EU as to what they can, or cannot, negotiate. To go against these deals, and create contracts with the UK will not happen. 

It's all very well to say that leaving the EU will free us from the rules and regulations required. But if we don't adhere to those of other countries, then we're not going to trade. 

I don't want to get in to a lengthy debate about this, mostly because I don't think many people want the forum to be too political again, though I find it engaging.
So I'll say my piece and leave it there.
My commute is 3 hours a day, and so I'm listening to an awful lot of commentary about the economy at the moment.
And it is sounding rather gloomy.
The Bank of England has cut interest rates again, to an unprecedented level. They have warned of up to quarter of a million jobs lost. The recent reports of the manufacturing industry show a significant downturn. The reports of the service industry are just as bad, and that accounts for 80% of our economy I believe.
Reports about recruitment suggest permanent employment has dropped significantly whereas temp jobs have risen.
This suggests that we are heading for a recession.
And yes I do blame it on the brexit vote. The economy was rising faster than expected in the months prior to the vote.
I think it's easy to describe news we don't like as scaremongering. I don't think that that's what happening in the news I listen to.
I think we have made a huge mistake. But it's done. My solace is that the banks prediction is of only a mild recession.

And, the personal insult thrown at xxxx is out of order. The day that someone on an urban art forum, that has its roots in politics, is insulted for being political is an odd day indeed.

There, done.

Surely they have to adhere to our demands aswell, it's not one way traffic now because we are on our own, we might feel the smallest because we don't have the might of Europe on our shoulders , but financially we are were one of the strongest, with or without EU

As a natural lover of the outdoors I hope your not right and I would worry should this be true, once again it's only speculation, as a country are we going to except becoming one big soil carpark, the reason the farmers are being subbed in the first place is because of the EU demands ..........

I still predict many riots, protests and changes for the better.

Peace out just poured a single malt

Final point: coach the job losses, is that the jobs that David Cameron has stood in the commons and claimed unemployment is down and more people are working.........

Zero hours contracts are higher than they have ever been, these people don't know what hours or income is from one day to the next, I have worked on a daily basis with these people and I feel sorry for them as they don't have full time contracts sick pay holidays, yet the government thinks they have been doing a good thing........ Getting people off the signing books, just to give us figures,


What the government don't tell us is, 16 hours is the most hours you can work before it starts affecting your taxes and benefits , the companies choosing to munipulate these rules as it benefits them also put these indivuals in a positions where they don't work enough hours for the company to pay for having that employee nor the time constraint for the government to back the individuals pay with benefits top up.




This is the real world.


Not personal, peace out

I'm self employed. Have been for 25 years. I have no holiday pay, sick pay etc. It's also a zero hour contract. I have to painfully watch guys on the books rinse every penny out of employers by pulling sick days and making excuses why jobs can't be completed on time because they want to squeeze out some weekend work for overtime. The bosses hands are tied because they have to jump through hoops to terminate the employment of deadwood and idiots. Just saying what I see.

I guess we see it from different sides dude. I see bosses I work for frustrated that they fight an uphill battle with lead swinging employees because they have employment rights backing them. Completely unfair when you can't terminate someone's contract because they are taking the piss.

Fuck the bosses, they'd have kids cleaning chimney's for sixpence a year given half the chance,  a lot of working class people died fighting for the 5 day week, not to mention the 8 hour day alongside health and safety practices.

Before the Industrial Revolution and the introduction of mechanised manufacture, regulation of workplace relations was based on status, rather than contract or mediation through a system of trade unions. Serfdom was the prevailing status of the mass of people, except where artisans in towns could gain a measure of self-regulation through guilds. In 1740 save for the fly-shuttle the loom was as it had been since weaving had begun. The law of the land was, under the Act of Apprentices 1563, that wages in each district should be assessed by Justices of the Peace. From the middle of the 19th century, through Acts such as the Master and Servant Act 1867 and the Employers and Workmen Act 1875, there became growing recognition that greater protection was needed to promote the health and safety of workers, as well as preventing unfair practices in wage contracts.

 Will the UK be better out than in Europe.

Only time will tell but the Brexit campaign and UKIP lied through their teeth.

 

No doubt there were a handful of spurious cases brought in the tribunals, by employees hoping to get a settlement out of their employer. A handful. However the introduction of fees led to a drop in claims to employment tribunals of over 70%. This was an unprecedented denial of access to justice.

 Why bother with fees.

 Someone I know who was working in London in a restaurant quit her job because the owner was getting too fresh with her. The owner refused to pay her her wages. She told me. She got her wages without any problems.