twist65
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THE MET LOTTERY, by twist65 on Jan 18, 2018 2:36:03 GMT 1, I am posting to extend an extremely belated yet sincere thanks to Met for putting this thread together.
I fell out of the competition mid way through March - despite enjoying it immensely, work commitments and a milestone birthday got the better of me. Well done to Ed and Doyle for sparring 'til the end.
Rather than give up completely I've been dipping into all the videos in chronological order at a leisurely pace (I've literally just finished the music video questions, which I thought I would have done much better at...). I don't think there's been one question or subject that I haven't found interesting or thought-provoking in some way, but I particularly enjoyed the videos on cognitive biases. A subject I had no academic knowledge of prior to this thread but have found myself referencing incessantly since.. So I plan on revisiting that section and the authors of the videos you posted in more detail now that I've finally caught up!
Thanks again Met. A thoroughly impressive effort on your part.
I am posting to extend an extremely belated yet sincere thanks to Met for putting this thread together.
I fell out of the competition mid way through March - despite enjoying it immensely, work commitments and a milestone birthday got the better of me. Well done to Ed and Doyle for sparring 'til the end.
Rather than give up completely I've been dipping into all the videos in chronological order at a leisurely pace (I've literally just finished the music video questions, which I thought I would have done much better at...). I don't think there's been one question or subject that I haven't found interesting or thought-provoking in some way, but I particularly enjoyed the videos on cognitive biases. A subject I had no academic knowledge of prior to this thread but have found myself referencing incessantly since.. So I plan on revisiting that section and the authors of the videos you posted in more detail now that I've finally caught up!
Thanks again Met. A thoroughly impressive effort on your part.
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met
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 18, 2018 13:06:58 GMT 1, I am posting to extend an extremely belated yet sincere thanks to Met for putting this thread together. I fell out of the competition mid way through March - despite enjoying it immensely, work commitments and a milestone birthday got the better of me. Well done to Ed and Doyle for sparring 'til the end. Rather than give up completely I've been dipping into all the videos in chronological order at a leisurely pace (I've literally just finished the music video questions, which I thought I would have done much better at...). I don't think there's been one question or subject that I haven't found interesting or thought-provoking in some way, but I particularly enjoyed the videos on cognitive biases. A subject I had no academic knowledge of prior to this thread but have found myself referencing incessantly since.. So I plan on revisiting that section and the authors of the videos you posted in more detail now that I've finally caught up! Thanks again Met. A thoroughly impressive effort on your part.
Many thanks for the kind words, twist65, and apologies on my part for this 7-month delayed acknowledgement.
Hopefully, friends and family haven't been alienated by your repeated references to cognitive biases.
For other forum members who may also take an interest, Wikipedia has a very helpful list of these biases here.
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Today seems like a good day to set up another cookie competition. One video. Recommended. Less than three minutes. Minimal sacrifice in personal time.
Members are free to participate Monday tonight, unless disqualified under points 8.1, 8.2 and 8.3 in this post.
Briefly:
(i) you need a minimum of 91 existing (undeleted) posts;
(ii) no fraudsters or thieves; and
(iii) those with more than one account here are not welcome (bar the limited exception set out in point 8.3).
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Sam Harris - Death and the Present Moment (excerpt) (April 2012) [2:50]
- uploaded by machinist
At around 20:00 UK time on Monday night (20 August 2018), I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions relating to the above video. The first member to answer correctly, wins.
I am posting to extend an extremely belated yet sincere thanks to Met for putting this thread together. I fell out of the competition mid way through March - despite enjoying it immensely, work commitments and a milestone birthday got the better of me. Well done to Ed and Doyle for sparring 'til the end. Rather than give up completely I've been dipping into all the videos in chronological order at a leisurely pace (I've literally just finished the music video questions, which I thought I would have done much better at...). I don't think there's been one question or subject that I haven't found interesting or thought-provoking in some way, but I particularly enjoyed the videos on cognitive biases. A subject I had no academic knowledge of prior to this thread but have found myself referencing incessantly since.. So I plan on revisiting that section and the authors of the videos you posted in more detail now that I've finally caught up! Thanks again Met. A thoroughly impressive effort on your part. Many thanks for the kind words, twist65, and apologies on my part for this 7-month delayed acknowledgement. Hopefully, friends and family haven't been alienated by your repeated references to cognitive biases. For other forum members who may also take an interest, Wikipedia has a very helpful list of these biases here. __________ Today seems like a good day to set up another cookie competition. One video. Recommended. Less than three minutes. Minimal sacrifice in personal time. Members are free to participate Monday tonight, unless disqualified under points 8.1, 8.2 and 8.3 in this post. Briefly: (i) you need a minimum of 91 existing (undeleted) posts; (ii) no fraudsters or thieves; and (iii) those with more than one account here are not welcome (bar the limited exception set out in point 8.3). __________ Sam Harris - Death and the Present Moment (excerpt) (April 2012) [2:50] - uploaded by machinistAt around 20:00 UK time on Monday night (20 August 2018), I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions relating to the above video. The first member to answer correctly, wins. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by ed on Aug 18, 2018 14:52:49 GMT 1, Met sends the BEST cookies. ๐ช ๐ช ๐ช
Met sends the BEST cookies. ๐ช ๐ช ๐ช
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met
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 20, 2018 19:34:54 GMT 1,
With this competition, let's make a last-minute change in an effort to increase the level of participation:
Rather than a single winner, each of the first three forum members to respond correctly / sufficiently shall win.
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There will be three questions posted shortly, at around 20:00 UK time.
By way of heads-up, Question 3 is a minor task instruction entirely reliant upon an honour system. It requires participants to confirm, "I accept."
After reading details of the task, members can of course reject it as presumptuous or intrusive. That would be understandable. In which case, no hard feelings. And see you hopefully at the next competition.
With this competition, let's make a last-minute change in an effort to increase the level of participation:
Rather than a single winner, each of the first three forum members to respond correctly / sufficiently shall win.
__________
There will be three questions posted shortly, at around 20:00 UK time.
By way of heads-up, Question 3 is a minor task instruction entirely reliant upon an honour system. It requires participants to confirm, "I accept."
After reading details of the task, members can of course reject it as presumptuous or intrusive. That would be understandable. In which case, no hard feelings. And see you hopefully at the next competition.
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met
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 20, 2018 20:00:01 GMT 1, [...] Today seems like a good day to set up another cookie competition. One video. Recommended. Less than three minutes. Minimal sacrifice in personal time. Members are free to participate Monday tonight, unless disqualified under points 8.1, 8.2 and 8.3 in this post. Briefly: (i) you need a minimum of 91 existing (undeleted) posts; (ii) no fraudsters or thieves; and (iii) those with more than one account here are not welcome (bar the limited exception set out in point 8.3). __________ Sam Harris - Death and the Present Moment (excerpt) (April 2012) [2:50] - uploaded by machinistAt around 20:00 UK time on Monday night (20 August 2018), I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions relating to the above video. The first member to answer correctly, wins.
1. The speaker, Sam Harris, has a podcast called Waking Up.
Post a link or the url to this podcast (whether from his personal website, his YouTube channel, or iTunes).
2. There follows a partial transcript of Harris's talk, with a four-word question that is absent at the end.
In your response:
(i) copy and paste the two paragraphs below; and
(ii) insert both the missing four words and the missing question mark.
But the one thing people tend to realise, at moments like this, is that they wasted a lot of time when life was normal. Itโs not just what they did with their time. Itโs not just that they spent too much time working, or compulsively checking email. Itโs that they cared about the wrong things. They regret what they cared about. Their attention was bound up in petty concerns, year after year, when life was normal.
And this is a paradox, of course, because we all know this epiphany is coming. Donโt you know this is coming? Donโt you know that thereโs going to come a day when youโll be sick, or someone close to you will die, and youโll look back on the kinds of things that captured your attention. And youโll think,
3. See the instructions below for a task that relies upon an honour system. If you are comfortable following the instructions, in your response, just write "I accept."
Task instructions
By no later than 23:59 (your own local time) on Friday, 24 August 2018:
(i) Copy and paste, and then print out the two paragraphs from Question 2 onto a white sheet of paper no smaller than A5 (148 x 210 mm; 5.8" x 8.3"). The text size should be large enough to be easily read.
(ii) Using a pencil, pen or marker, fill in by hand the missing four words and question mark.
(iii) With magnets or tape, affix the paper to your refrigerator door for at least seven days.
[...] Today seems like a good day to set up another cookie competition. One video. Recommended. Less than three minutes. Minimal sacrifice in personal time. Members are free to participate Monday tonight, unless disqualified under points 8.1, 8.2 and 8.3 in this post. Briefly: (i) you need a minimum of 91 existing (undeleted) posts; (ii) no fraudsters or thieves; and (iii) those with more than one account here are not welcome (bar the limited exception set out in point 8.3). __________ Sam Harris - Death and the Present Moment (excerpt) (April 2012) [2:50] - uploaded by machinistAt around 20:00 UK time on Monday night (20 August 2018), I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions relating to the above video. The first member to answer correctly, wins. 1. The speaker, Sam Harris, has a podcast called Waking Up. Post a link or the url to this podcast (whether from his personal website, his YouTube channel, or iTunes). 2. There follows a partial transcript of Harris's talk, with a four-word question that is absent at the end. In your response: (i) copy and paste the two paragraphs below; and (ii) insert both the missing four words and the missing question mark. But the one thing people tend to realise, at moments like this, is that they wasted a lot of time when life was normal. Itโs not just what they did with their time. Itโs not just that they spent too much time working, or compulsively checking email. Itโs that they cared about the wrong things. They regret what they cared about. Their attention was bound up in petty concerns, year after year, when life was normal.
And this is a paradox, of course, because we all know this epiphany is coming. Donโt you know this is coming? Donโt you know that thereโs going to come a day when youโll be sick, or someone close to you will die, and youโll look back on the kinds of things that captured your attention. And youโll think, 3. See the instructions below for a task that relies upon an honour system. If you are comfortable following the instructions, in your response, just write "I accept."Task instructionsBy no later than 23:59 (your own local time) on Friday, 24 August 2018: (i) Copy and paste, and then print out the two paragraphs from Question 2 onto a white sheet of paper no smaller than A5 (148 x 210 mm; 5.8" x 8.3"). The text size should be large enough to be easily read. (ii) Using a pencil, pen or marker, fill in by hand the missing four words and question mark. (iii) With magnets or tape, affix the paper to your refrigerator door for at least seven days. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by qest on Aug 20, 2018 20:04:42 GMT 1, 1. itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-with-sam-harris/id733163012?mt=2
2. But the one thing people tend to realise, at moments like this, is that they wasted a lot of time when life was normal. Itโs not just what they did with their time. Itโs not just that they spent too much time working, or compulsively checking email. Itโs that they cared about the wrong things. They regret what they cared about. Their attention was bound up in petty concerns, year after year, when life was normal.
And this is a paradox, of course, because we all know this epiphany is coming. Donโt you know this is coming? Donโt you know that thereโs going to come a day when youโll be sick, or someone close to you will die, and youโll look back on the kinds of things that captured your attention. And youโll think, what was I doing?
3. I accept.
1. itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-with-sam-harris/id733163012?mt=22. But the one thing people tend to realise, at moments like this, is that they wasted a lot of time when life was normal. Itโs not just what they did with their time. Itโs not just that they spent too much time working, or compulsively checking email. Itโs that they cared about the wrong things. They regret what they cared about. Their attention was bound up in petty concerns, year after year, when life was normal. And this is a paradox, of course, because we all know this epiphany is coming. Donโt you know this is coming? Donโt you know that thereโs going to come a day when youโll be sick, or someone close to you will die, and youโll look back on the kinds of things that captured your attention. And youโll think, what was I doing? 3. I accept. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by twist65 on Aug 20, 2018 20:08:29 GMT 1,
1. samharris.org/podcast/
2. But the one thing people tend to realise, at moments like this, is that they wasted a lot of time when life was normal. Itโs not just what they did with their time. Itโs not just that they spent too much time working, or compulsively checking email. Itโs that they cared about the wrong things. They regret what they cared about. Their attention was bound up in petty concerns, year after year, when life was normal.
And this is a paradox, of course, because we all know this epiphany is coming. Donโt you know this is coming? Donโt you know that thereโs going to come a day when youโll be sick, or someone close to you will die, and youโll look back on the kinds of things that captured your attention. And youโll think, what was I doing?
3. I accept.
Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/143148/met-lottery?page=12&scrollTo=1755194#ixzz5OkMQ4xb0
1. samharris.org/podcast/2. But the one thing people tend to realise, at moments like this, is that they wasted a lot of time when life was normal. Itโs not just what they did with their time. Itโs not just that they spent too much time working, or compulsively checking email. Itโs that they cared about the wrong things. They regret what they cared about. Their attention was bound up in petty concerns, year after year, when life was normal. And this is a paradox, of course, because we all know this epiphany is coming. Donโt you know this is coming? Donโt you know that thereโs going to come a day when youโll be sick, or someone close to you will die, and youโll look back on the kinds of things that captured your attention. And youโll think, what was I doing? 3. I accept. Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/143148/met-lottery?page=12&scrollTo=1755194#ixzz5OkMQ4xb0 |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by taco on Aug 20, 2018 22:14:04 GMT 1, 1. samharris.org/podcast/
2. But the one thing people tend to realise, at moments like this, is that they wasted a lot of time when life was normal. Itโs not just what they did with their time. Itโs not just that they spent too much time working, or compulsively checking email. Itโs that they cared about the wrong things. They regret what they cared about. Their attention was bound up in petty concerns, year after year, when life was normal.
And this is a paradox, of course, because we all know this epiphany is coming. Donโt you know this is coming? Donโt you know that thereโs going to come a day when youโll be sick, or someone close to you will die, and youโll look back on the kinds of things that captured your attention. And youโll think, what was I doing?
3. I accept.
1. samharris.org/podcast/
2. But the one thing people tend to realise, at moments like this, is that they wasted a lot of time when life was normal. Itโs not just what they did with their time. Itโs not just that they spent too much time working, or compulsively checking email. Itโs that they cared about the wrong things. They regret what they cared about. Their attention was bound up in petty concerns, year after year, when life was normal.
And this is a paradox, of course, because we all know this epiphany is coming. Donโt you know this is coming? Donโt you know that thereโs going to come a day when youโll be sick, or someone close to you will die, and youโll look back on the kinds of things that captured your attention. And youโll think, what was I doing?
3. I accept.
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met
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Aug 20, 2018 22:23:37 GMT 1,
Congratulations to qest, twist65 and taco.
Given the subject matter this time around, sending just sugar, salt, flour and fat feels rather inadequate. A more thematically-fitting bonus will therefore also be posted to each winner.
REFERENCE ANSWERS
1.
samharris.org/podcast/
www.youtube.com/user/samharrisorg
itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-with-sam-harris/id733163012?mt=2
On the podcast page of his personal website, Harris's message titled Why the Waking Up Podcast Rejects Ads and Relies on Audience Support (Duration: 06:52) is worth listening to. The topic is one I consider relevant and of consequence.
2. Missing four-word question: "What was I doing?"
FULL TRANSCRIPT OF VIDEO
Now most of us do our best not to think about death.
But thereโs always part of our minds that knows this canโt go on forever. Part of us always knows that weโre just a doctorโs visit away, or a phone call away, from being starkly reminded with the fact of our own mortality. Or of those closest to us. Now, Iโm sure many of you in this room have experienced this in some form. You must know how uncanny it is to suddenly be thrown out of the normal course of your life. And just be given the full-time job of not dying. Or caring for someone who is.
Hitch [Christopher Hitchens] wrote brilliantly about this in Vanity Fair, and I suggest you read his articles if you haven't.
But the one thing people tend to realise, at moments like this, is that they wasted a lot of time when life was normal. Itโs not just what they did with their time. Itโs not just that they spent too much time working, or compulsively checking email. Itโs that they cared about the wrong things. They regret what they cared about. Their attention was bound up in petty concerns, year after year, when life was normal.
And this is a paradox, of course, because we all know this epiphany is coming. Donโt you know this is coming? Donโt you know that thereโs going to come a day when youโll be sick, or someone close to you will die, and youโll look back on the kinds of things that captured your attention. And youโll think, "What was I doing?"
You know this, and yet, if youโre like most people, youโll spend most of your time in life tacitly presuming youโll live forever. I mean, it's like watching a bad movie for the fourth time. Or bickering with your spouse. These things only make sense in light of eternity. There better be a heaven if weโre going to waste our time like that.
So, unlike religious people, we atheists really have a good reason to make the most of life. To make the most of the present moment. Because even if you live to be 100, there are just not that many days in life.
3. [Acceptance of task completion.]
Congratulations to qest, twist65 and taco. Given the subject matter this time around, sending just sugar, salt, flour and fat feels rather inadequate. A more thematically-fitting bonus will therefore also be posted to each winner. REFERENCE ANSWERS1. samharris.org/podcast/www.youtube.com/user/samharrisorgitunes.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-with-sam-harris/id733163012?mt=2On the podcast page of his personal website, Harris's message titled Why the Waking Up Podcast Rejects Ads and Relies on Audience Support (Duration: 06:52) is worth listening to. The topic is one I consider relevant and of consequence. 2. Missing four-word question: "What was I doing?"FULL TRANSCRIPT OF VIDEONow most of us do our best not to think about death.
But thereโs always part of our minds that knows this canโt go on forever. Part of us always knows that weโre just a doctorโs visit away, or a phone call away, from being starkly reminded with the fact of our own mortality. Or of those closest to us. Now, Iโm sure many of you in this room have experienced this in some form. You must know how uncanny it is to suddenly be thrown out of the normal course of your life. And just be given the full-time job of not dying. Or caring for someone who is.
Hitch [Christopher Hitchens] wrote brilliantly about this in Vanity Fair, and I suggest you read his articles if you haven't.
But the one thing people tend to realise, at moments like this, is that they wasted a lot of time when life was normal. Itโs not just what they did with their time. Itโs not just that they spent too much time working, or compulsively checking email. Itโs that they cared about the wrong things. They regret what they cared about. Their attention was bound up in petty concerns, year after year, when life was normal.
And this is a paradox, of course, because we all know this epiphany is coming. Donโt you know this is coming? Donโt you know that thereโs going to come a day when youโll be sick, or someone close to you will die, and youโll look back on the kinds of things that captured your attention. And youโll think, "What was I doing?"
You know this, and yet, if youโre like most people, youโll spend most of your time in life tacitly presuming youโll live forever. I mean, it's like watching a bad movie for the fourth time. Or bickering with your spouse. These things only make sense in light of eternity. There better be a heaven if weโre going to waste our time like that.
So, unlike religious people, we atheists really have a good reason to make the most of life. To make the most of the present moment. Because even if you live to be 100, there are just not that many days in life.3. [Acceptance of task completion.] |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by twist65 on Aug 20, 2018 23:32:57 GMT 1, Thanks met
I have to admit I'd never heard of Sam Harris prior to the competition question earlier on this thread (pg 6), and found that particular podcast difficult to get through. Not because of the content, but his soft delivery combined with my short attention span meant I kept drifting off. Perseverance paid off though as I've done over half of them since then, some fascinating stuff, I especially enjoyed one about AI. Still a fair few hours to go before I'm up to date though!
Thanks met I have to admit I'd never heard of Sam Harris prior to the competition question earlier on this thread (pg 6), and found that particular podcast difficult to get through. Not because of the content, but his soft delivery combined with my short attention span meant I kept drifting off. Perseverance paid off though as I've done over half of them since then, some fascinating stuff, I especially enjoyed one about AI. Still a fair few hours to go before I'm up to date though! |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by Coach on Aug 20, 2018 23:59:40 GMT 1, Thanks metย I have to admit I'd never heard of Sam Harris prior to the competition question earlier on this thread (pg 6), and found that particular podcast difficult to get through. Not because of the content, but his soft delivery combined with my short attention span meant I kept drifting off. Perseverance paid off though as I've done over half of them since then, some fascinating stuff, I especially enjoyed one about AI. Still a fair few hours to go before I'm up to date though!
Sam Harris is a fabulous speaker. You will have a wonderful time listening to his talks. He is affectionately known as one of the four horsemen of atheism. I have to say that of the four I enjoy listening to Christoper Hitchens more. In part no doubt because of his oratory. He was the chap that Harris referred to as Hitch in the video met posted.
If you want a thoroughly entertaining evening (it canโt just be me) then watch some Hitchens videos.
This one is particularly good. His contribution to the debate regarding whether the Catholic Church is a force for good. Unsurprisingly he is against the motion (together with Stephen Fry), and if you have the time, and for the sake of a balanced argument, it is worth watching the whole debate. (Apologies to those that note that Iโve shared this video here before).
(Met, I do hope you donโt mind this small tangent)
Thanks metย I have to admit I'd never heard of Sam Harris prior to the competition question earlier on this thread (pg 6), and found that particular podcast difficult to get through. Not because of the content, but his soft delivery combined with my short attention span meant I kept drifting off. Perseverance paid off though as I've done over half of them since then, some fascinating stuff, I especially enjoyed one about AI. Still a fair few hours to go before I'm up to date though! Sam Harris is a fabulous speaker. You will have a wonderful time listening to his talks. He is affectionately known as one of the four horsemen of atheism. I have to say that of the four I enjoy listening to Christoper Hitchens more. In part no doubt because of his oratory. He was the chap that Harris referred to as Hitch in the video met posted. If you want a thoroughly entertaining evening (it canโt just be me) then watch some Hitchens videos. This one is particularly good. His contribution to the debate regarding whether the Catholic Church is a force for good. Unsurprisingly he is against the motion (together with Stephen Fry), and if you have the time, and for the sake of a balanced argument, it is worth watching the whole debate. (Apologies to those that note that Iโve shared this video here before). (Met, I do hope you donโt mind this small tangent) |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by twist65 on Aug 21, 2018 10:07:24 GMT 1, Thanks Coach I'll give that a watch later, I watched the Hitchens Mother Teresa documentary not long ago and enjoyed that, this one looks to be similarly entertaining!
Thanks Coach I'll give that a watch later, I watched the Hitchens Mother Teresa documentary not long ago and enjoyed that, this one looks to be similarly entertaining!
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THE MET LOTTERY, by taco on Aug 25, 2018 20:59:01 GMT 1, Thanks Coach I'll give that a watch later, I watched the Hitchens Mother Teresa documentary not long ago and enjoyed that, this one looks to be similarly entertaining!
thanks met for the cookie prize, the extra prize which was awesome too, and thanks too for setting of the cascade of several hours worth of various four horsemen related youtube videos! Much more insightful/informative than the usual rabbit hole where you end up watching lumberjack competitions or something equally random....
Thanks Coach I'll give that a watch later, I watched the Hitchens Mother Teresa documentary not long ago and enjoyed that, this one looks to be similarly entertaining! thanks met for the cookie prize, the extra prize which was awesome too, and thanks too for setting of the cascade of several hours worth of various four horsemen related youtube videos! Much more insightful/informative than the usual rabbit hole where you end up watching lumberjack competitions or something equally random.... |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Mar 9, 2019 16:36:16 GMT 1,
Let's reintroduce some music-related cookie competitions for this Tuesday night (12 March), UK time.
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Members are free to participate unless disqualified under points 8.1, 8.2 and 8.3 in this post.
Briefly:
(i) you need a minimum of 91 existing (undeleted) posts;
(ii) no fraudsters or thieves; and
(iii) those with more than one account here are not welcome (bar the limited exception set out in point 8.3).
Let's reintroduce some music-related cookie competitions for this Tuesday night (12 March), UK time. _________ Members are free to participate unless disqualified under points 8.1, 8.2 and 8.3 in this post. Briefly: (i) you need a minimum of 91 existing (undeleted) posts; (ii) no fraudsters or thieves; and (iii) those with more than one account here are not welcome (bar the limited exception set out in point 8.3). |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Mar 9, 2019 16:36:37 GMT 1,
A.
Cocteau Twins - Crushed
- uploaded by darkware
Simple Minds - New Gold Dream (unofficial video featuring the Addams Family)
- uploaded by Sandronee
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Radiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box
- uploaded by faustidioteque
Radiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box (Live on Later... with Jools Holland, 2001)
- uploaded by RadioheadSnatcher
Talking Heads - Crosseyed and Painless (Live in Rome, 1980)
- uploaded by tpatgod2007
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Ladytron - Seventeen
- uploaded by NettwerkMusic
Roxy Music - A Really Good Time (performing on The Midnight Special, 1975)
- uploaded by Cowbananas
As a side note regarding the Roxy Music clip, query whether the keyboard player might just be Russell Birdwell from War on Everyone:
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A.
Cocteau Twins - Crushed
- uploaded by darkware
Simple Minds - New Gold Dream (unofficial video featuring the Addams Family)
- uploaded by Sandronee
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Radiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box
- uploaded by faustidioteque
Radiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box (Live on Later... with Jools Holland, 2001)
- uploaded by RadioheadSnatcher
Talking Heads - Crosseyed and Painless (Live in Rome, 1980)
- uploaded by tpatgod2007
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Ladytron - Seventeen
- uploaded by NettwerkMusic
Roxy Music - A Really Good Time (performing on The Midnight Special, 1975)
- uploaded by Cowbananas
As a side note regarding the Roxy Music clip, query whether the keyboard player might just be Russell Birdwell from War on Everyone:
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Mar 9, 2019 17:35:31 GMT 1,
A.
Lou Reed - Walk on the Wild Side
- uploaded by LouReedVEVO
The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go? (Live at Shea Stadium, New York City, 1982)
- uploaded by The Clash
The Violent Femmes - Blister in the Sun (Live at Alabama-Halle, Munich, 1986)
- uploaded by Bernd Reck
The Dandy Warhols - Bohemian Like You
- uploaded by machinist
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Ry & Frank Wiedemann - Howling (รme Remix)
- uploaded by serendipitaet
Unloved - When A Woman Is Around
- uploaded by Unloved Official
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A.
Lou Reed - Walk on the Wild Side
- uploaded by LouReedVEVO
The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go? (Live at Shea Stadium, New York City, 1982)
- uploaded by The Clash
The Violent Femmes - Blister in the Sun (Live at Alabama-Halle, Munich, 1986)
- uploaded by Bernd Reck
The Dandy Warhols - Bohemian Like You
- uploaded by machinist
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Ry & Frank Wiedemann - Howling (รme Remix)
- uploaded by serendipitaet
Unloved - When A Woman Is Around
- uploaded by Unloved Official
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Mar 9, 2019 18:12:17 GMT 1, A.
'Sunday Jumps' from Royal Wedding, starring Fred Astaire
- uploaded by machinist
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'Rich Man's Frug' from Sweet Charity, with Suzanne Charney as lead dancer
- uploaded by machinist
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Sylvie Guillem - Two (Rise and Fall)
- uploaded by machinist
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'Sunday Jumps' from Royal Wedding, starring Fred Astaire
- uploaded by machinist
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'Rich Man's Frug' from Sweet Charity, with Suzanne Charney as lead dancer
- uploaded by machinist
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Sylvie Guillem - Two (Rise and Fall)
- uploaded by machinist
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Mar 12, 2019 21:00:00 GMT 1, A.Cocteau Twins - Crushed- uploaded by darkwareSimple Minds - New Gold Dream (unofficial video featuring the Addams Family)- uploaded by Sandronee________________ B.Radiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box- uploaded by faustidiotequeRadiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box (Live on Later... with Jools Holland, 2001)- uploaded by RadioheadSnatcherTalking Heads - Crosseyed and Painless (Live in Rome, 1980)- uploaded by tpatgod2007________________ C.Ladytron - Seventeen- uploaded by NettwerkMusicRoxy Music - A Really Good Time (performing on The Midnight Special, 1975)- uploaded by CowbananasAs a side note regarding the Roxy Music clip, query whether the keyboard player might just be Russell Birdwell from War on Everyone: ________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Tuesday 12 March, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins.
Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the question are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one).
Parts A, B and C each feature two bands linked to one another in a noteworthy way.
The connection tying the relevant two bands together is the same for each of Parts A, B and C.
What is that connection?
If nobody gets the correct answer before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 20:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March.
A.Cocteau Twins - Crushed- uploaded by darkwareSimple Minds - New Gold Dream (unofficial video featuring the Addams Family)- uploaded by Sandronee________________ B.Radiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box- uploaded by faustidiotequeRadiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box (Live on Later... with Jools Holland, 2001)- uploaded by RadioheadSnatcherTalking Heads - Crosseyed and Painless (Live in Rome, 1980)- uploaded by tpatgod2007________________ C.Ladytron - Seventeen- uploaded by NettwerkMusicRoxy Music - A Really Good Time (performing on The Midnight Special, 1975)- uploaded by CowbananasAs a side note regarding the Roxy Music clip, query whether the keyboard player might just be Russell Birdwell from War on Everyone: ________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Tuesday 12 March, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the question are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one). Parts A, B and C each feature two bands linked to one another in a noteworthy way. The connection tying the relevant two bands together is the same for each of Parts A, B and C. What is that connection? If nobody gets the correct answer before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 20:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by dogstar on Mar 12, 2019 21:29:59 GMT 1, A.Cocteau Twins - Crushed- uploaded by darkwareSimple Minds - New Gold Dream (unofficial video featuring the Addams Family)- uploaded by Sandronee________________ B.Radiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box- uploaded by faustidiotequeRadiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box (Live on Later... with Jools Holland, 2001)- uploaded by RadioheadSnatcherTalking Heads - Crosseyed and Painless (Live in Rome, 1980)- uploaded by tpatgod2007________________ C.Ladytron - Seventeen- uploaded by NettwerkMusicRoxy Music - A Really Good Time (performing on The Midnight Special, 1975)- uploaded by CowbananasAs a side note regarding the Roxy Music clip, query whether the keyboard player might just be Russell Birdwell from War on Everyone: ________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Tuesday 12 March, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the question are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one). Parts A, B and C each feature two bands linked to one another in a noteworthy way. The connection tying the relevant two bands together is the same for each of Parts A, B and C. What is that connection? If nobody gets the correct answer before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 20:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March. A: Cocteau Twins is the title of a song by Simple Minds. B: Radiohead is the title of a song by Talking Heads.
C: Ladytron is the title of a song by Roxy Music.
A.Cocteau Twins - Crushed- uploaded by darkwareSimple Minds - New Gold Dream (unofficial video featuring the Addams Family)- uploaded by Sandronee________________ B.Radiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box- uploaded by faustidiotequeRadiohead - Packt Like Sardines in a Crushd Tin Box (Live on Later... with Jools Holland, 2001)- uploaded by RadioheadSnatcherTalking Heads - Crosseyed and Painless (Live in Rome, 1980)- uploaded by tpatgod2007________________ C.Ladytron - Seventeen- uploaded by NettwerkMusicRoxy Music - A Really Good Time (performing on The Midnight Special, 1975)- uploaded by CowbananasAs a side note regarding the Roxy Music clip, query whether the keyboard player might just be Russell Birdwell from War on Everyone: ________________ At around 20:00 UK time on Tuesday 12 March, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the question are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one). Parts A, B and C each feature two bands linked to one another in a noteworthy way. The connection tying the relevant two bands together is the same for each of Parts A, B and C. What is that connection? If nobody gets the correct answer before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 20:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March. A: Cocteau Twins is the title of a song by Simple Minds. B: Radiohead is the title of a song by Talking Heads.
C: Ladytron is the title of a song by Roxy Music.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by mutatis on Mar 12, 2019 21:30:26 GMT 1, Hi Met,
I can't resist a music quiz.
My answers are as follows:
Cocteau Twins are named after a rare early Simple Minds song of the same name.
Radiohead - took their name from the Talking Heads song "Radio Head" on True Stories
Ladytron are named after the Roxy Music song "Ladytron" on Roxy's debut album.
Hi Met,
I can't resist a music quiz.
My answers are as follows:
Cocteau Twins are named after a rare early Simple Minds song of the same name.
Radiohead - took their name from the Talking Heads song "Radio Head" on True Stories
Ladytron are named after the Roxy Music song "Ladytron" on Roxy's debut album.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Mar 12, 2019 21:40:55 GMT 1, Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the question are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one). Parts A, B and C each feature two bands linked to one another in a noteworthy way. The connection tying the relevant two bands together is the same for each of Parts A, B and C. What is that connection? If nobody gets the correct answer before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 20:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March. A: Cocteau Twins is the title of a song by Simple Minds. B: Radiohead is the title of a song by Talking Heads.
C: Ladytron is the title of a song by Roxy Music.
Excellent work, dogstar.
And very sorry, mutatis. You missed out by seconds.
REFERENCE ANSWER
For each of Parts A, B and C, the first band named itself after a song released by the second band.
Simple Minds - Cocteau Twins
- uploaded by VisioncreationnewSon
After watching the New Gold Dream video, I tried imitating the cool moves of Wednesday Addams ("Wednesday's child is full of woe"). Regrettably, the end result more closely resembled Lurch's dancing.
Talking Heads - Radio Head
- uploaded by Gustavo B. L.
Roxy Music - Ladytron (The Old Grey Whistle Test, 1972)
- uploaded by Bryan Ferry
Spot the bloke in the gold gloves and leopard-skin top at around 4:18, from NASA's Launch Control Center. That's Brian Eno, who was still in the band at the time. In case you've never heard of him before, you may know his brother Philip, from Southeast Asia.
Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the question are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one). Parts A, B and C each feature two bands linked to one another in a noteworthy way. The connection tying the relevant two bands together is the same for each of Parts A, B and C. What is that connection? If nobody gets the correct answer before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 20:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March. A: Cocteau Twins is the title of a song by Simple Minds. B: Radiohead is the title of a song by Talking Heads.
C: Ladytron is the title of a song by Roxy Music.
Excellent work, dogstar. And very sorry, mutatis. You missed out by seconds. REFERENCE ANSWERFor each of Parts A, B and C, the first band named itself after a song released by the second band. Simple Minds - Cocteau Twins- uploaded by VisioncreationnewSonAfter watching the New Gold Dream video, I tried imitating the cool moves of Wednesday Addams ( "Wednesday's child is full of woe"). Regrettably, the end result more closely resembled Lurch's dancing. Talking Heads - Radio Head- uploaded by Gustavo B. L.Roxy Music - Ladytron (The Old Grey Whistle Test, 1972)- uploaded by Bryan FerrySpot the bloke in the gold gloves and leopard-skin top at around 4:18, from NASA's Launch Control Center. That's Brian Eno, who was still in the band at the time. In case you've never heard of him before, you may know his brother Philip, from Southeast Asia. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Mar 12, 2019 22:00:00 GMT 1, A.Lou Reed - Walk on the Wild Side- uploaded by LouReedVEVOThe Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go? (Live at Shea Stadium, New York City, 1982)- uploaded by The ClashThe Violent Femmes - Blister in the Sun (Live at Alabama-Halle, Munich, 1986)- uploaded by Bernd ReckThe Dandy Warhols - Bohemian Like You- uploaded by machinist________________ B.Ry & Frank Wiedemann - Howling (รme Remix)- uploaded by serendipitaetUnloved - When A Woman Is Around- uploaded by Unloved Official________________ At around 21:00 UK time on Tuesday 12 March, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins.
Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the questions are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one).
Apologies in advance that members based in certain countries (and those of a certain age) may have an unfair advantage with this particular competition.
Responding to Question 2 is optional. If the person who correctly answers Question 1 also answers Question 2 in the same, unedited post (not in two separate posts), they'll receive an extra bonus prize.
1. What do the four songs in Part A share in common?
The required answer relates to an issue that was controversial with certain fans, and sometimes even a source of friction between the relevant band members.
2. Optional bonus-prize question (which may actually help members find the answer to the main question above):
Although a commonality exists among all the songs, those in Part A are distinct from the ones in Part B in a critical manner. Explain:
(i) what links the songs in Parts A and B; and
(ii) what separates them.
If nobody gets the correct answer(s) before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 21:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March.
A.Lou Reed - Walk on the Wild Side- uploaded by LouReedVEVOThe Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go? (Live at Shea Stadium, New York City, 1982)- uploaded by The ClashThe Violent Femmes - Blister in the Sun (Live at Alabama-Halle, Munich, 1986)- uploaded by Bernd ReckThe Dandy Warhols - Bohemian Like You- uploaded by machinist________________ B.Ry & Frank Wiedemann - Howling (รme Remix)- uploaded by serendipitaetUnloved - When A Woman Is Around- uploaded by Unloved Official________________ At around 21:00 UK time on Tuesday 12 March, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the questions are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one). Apologies in advance that members based in certain countries (and those of a certain age) may have an unfair advantage with this particular competition. Responding to Question 2 is optional. If the person who correctly answers Question 1 also answers Question 2 in the same, unedited post (not in two separate posts), they'll receive an extra bonus prize. 1. What do the four songs in Part A share in common? The required answer relates to an issue that was controversial with certain fans, and sometimes even a source of friction between the relevant band members. 2. Optional bonus-prize question (which may actually help members find the answer to the main question above): Although a commonality exists among all the songs, those in Part A are distinct from the ones in Part B in a critical manner. Explain: (i) what links the songs in Parts A and B; and (ii) what separates them. If nobody gets the correct answer(s) before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 21:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Mar 12, 2019 23:00:00 GMT 1, A.'Sunday Jumps' from Royal Wedding, starring Fred Astaire- uploaded by machinist________________ B.'Rich Man's Frug' from Sweet Charity, with Suzanne Charney as lead dancer- uploaded by machinist________________ C.Sylvie Guillem - Two (Rise and Fall)- uploaded by machinist________________ At around 22:00 UK time on Tuesday 12 March, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins.
Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the questions are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one).
They're still worth watching, but for this purpose, leave aside the videos in Parts B and C. [If Sweet Charity (1969) or Bob Fosse fans were hoping for a question about Beyoncรฉ / Get Me Bodied, you aren't in luck.]
The video in Part A is a popular scene from the 1951 movie, Royal Wedding.
Decades later, homage would be paid to Fred Astaire's routine with the hatstand, by the lead singer of a famous band. This took place during the live performance of a song, also captured in a well-known concert film of that band.
Name:
(i) the band;
(ii) the title of the concert film; and
(iii) the title of the specific song referred to.
INDIRECT CLUE
The following works of art all have something in common. Connect the dots:
Fair warning, then. Selling, for two million, one hundred thousand dollars. All done. For you, sir. Two million, one hundred thousand.
If nobody gets the correct answers before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 22:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March.
A.'Sunday Jumps' from Royal Wedding, starring Fred Astaire- uploaded by machinist________________ B.'Rich Man's Frug' from Sweet Charity, with Suzanne Charney as lead dancer- uploaded by machinist________________ C.Sylvie Guillem - Two (Rise and Fall)- uploaded by machinist________________ At around 22:00 UK time on Tuesday 12 March, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the questions are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one). They're still worth watching, but for this purpose, leave aside the videos in Parts B and C. [If Sweet Charity (1969) or Bob Fosse fans were hoping for a question about Beyoncรฉ / Get Me Bodied, you aren't in luck.]The video in Part A is a popular scene from the 1951 movie, Royal Wedding. Decades later, homage would be paid to Fred Astaire's routine with the hatstand, by the lead singer of a famous band. This took place during the live performance of a song, also captured in a well-known concert film of that band. Name: (i) the band; (ii) the title of the concert film; and (iii) the title of the specific song referred to. INDIRECT CLUEThe following works of art all have something in common. Connect the dots: Fair warning, then. Selling, for two million, one hundred thousand dollars. All done. For you, sir. Two million, one hundred thousand.If nobody gets the correct answers before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 22:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by mutatis on Mar 12, 2019 23:42:57 GMT 1, I have no clue whatsoever about the second part of the question - but the first part - all the songs were used in adverts.
In case a single line won't do and if I recall correctly you like Violent Femmes (forgive me if I've got that wrong). I know that the Violent Femmes fell out with each other when their song was used in a Wendys advert. But weren't they already split up? I don't know about the rep of Wendys ... but I am guessing they could have been linked to something a bit more fitting of their legacy, but when non-writers in the band give it the "art not commerce" line, I cynically wonder whether an equal songwriting royalty split would have placated them. Anyway they got back together didn't they?
As for the rest I am not sure about internal unrest and Lou Reed only had himself to argue with. Joe Strummer was reportedly miffed but only because a BAD II track was stuck on the B side (by Mick Jones) as the record climbed all the way to the top of the charts. More than one Dandy Warhols track has been used in adverts, so they can't be averse to the cash - depending on if it's being shared around.
As for fans - we can get upset easily and sometimes irrationally. People were upset when the Clash signed to CBS in 1977 and declared punk dead! The Clash had long disbanded when the song was re-released off the back of the Levi's ad, so not too much to get upset about or was there?
I'm guessing that Vodafone is not what you'd expect Dandy Warhols to be pushing. I didn't think any less of them, or any more of them.
Synch rights can represent a considerable slice of income for the writer/s, not just because of payment for the ad, but in knock-on sales ... so sometimes I guess needs must and let's assume that not all writers have vetos on use.
Equally, people went nuts when "Venus in Furs" was used for a tyre advert - but as I don't hold the Velvet Underground dear - I was pretty impressed with how the song's theme was mirrored in the advert, thus indicating that it was knowingly selected. Another more recent example but a bit obvious was Teenage Riot used in a Marc Jacobs ad. Given that Sonic Youth signed to Geffen back in 1990 or so I would have thought that fans would realise what they could or would not do.
I have no clue whatsoever about the second part of the question - but the first part - all the songs were used in adverts.
In case a single line won't do and if I recall correctly you like Violent Femmes (forgive me if I've got that wrong). I know that the Violent Femmes fell out with each other when their song was used in a Wendys advert. But weren't they already split up? I don't know about the rep of Wendys ... but I am guessing they could have been linked to something a bit more fitting of their legacy, but when non-writers in the band give it the "art not commerce" line, I cynically wonder whether an equal songwriting royalty split would have placated them. Anyway they got back together didn't they?
As for the rest I am not sure about internal unrest and Lou Reed only had himself to argue with. Joe Strummer was reportedly miffed but only because a BAD II track was stuck on the B side (by Mick Jones) as the record climbed all the way to the top of the charts. More than one Dandy Warhols track has been used in adverts, so they can't be averse to the cash - depending on if it's being shared around.
As for fans - we can get upset easily and sometimes irrationally. People were upset when the Clash signed to CBS in 1977 and declared punk dead! The Clash had long disbanded when the song was re-released off the back of the Levi's ad, so not too much to get upset about or was there?
I'm guessing that Vodafone is not what you'd expect Dandy Warhols to be pushing. I didn't think any less of them, or any more of them.
Synch rights can represent a considerable slice of income for the writer/s, not just because of payment for the ad, but in knock-on sales ... so sometimes I guess needs must and let's assume that not all writers have vetos on use.
Equally, people went nuts when "Venus in Furs" was used for a tyre advert - but as I don't hold the Velvet Underground dear - I was pretty impressed with how the song's theme was mirrored in the advert, thus indicating that it was knowingly selected. Another more recent example but a bit obvious was Teenage Riot used in a Marc Jacobs ad. Given that Sonic Youth signed to Geffen back in 1990 or so I would have thought that fans would realise what they could or would not do.
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Mar 13, 2019 0:05:38 GMT 1, I have no clue whatsoever about the second part of the question - but the first part - all the songs were used in adverts. In case a single line won't do and if I recall correctly you like Violent Femmes (forgive me if I've got that wrong). I know that the Violent Femmes fell out with each other when their song was used in a Wendys advert. But weren't they already split up? I don't know about the rep of Wendys ... but I am guessing they could have been linked to something a bit more fitting of their legacy, but when non-writers in the band give it the "art not commerce" line, I cynically wonder whether an equal songwriting royalty split would have placated them. Anyway they got back together didn't they?
As for the rest I am not sure about internal unrest and Lou Reed only had himself to argue with. Joe Strummer was reportedly miffed but only because a BAD II track was stuck on the B side (by Mick Jones) as the record climbed all the way to the top of the charts. More than one Dandy Warhols track has been used in adverts, so they can't be averse to the cash - depending on if it's being shared around.
As for fans - we can get upset easily and sometimes irrationally. People were upset when the Clash signed to CBS in 1977 and declared punk dead! The Clash had long disbanded when the song was re-released off the back of the Levi's ad, so not too much to get upset about or was there?
I'm guessing that Vodafone is not what you'd expect Dandy Warhols to be pushing. I didn't think any less of them, or any more of them.
Synch rights can represent a considerable slice of income for the writer/s, not just because of payment for the ad, but in knock-on sales ... so sometimes I guess needs must and let's assume that not all writers have vetos on use.
Equally, people went nuts when "Venus in Furs" was used for a tyre advert - but as I don't hold the Velvet Underground dear - I was pretty impressed with how the song's theme was mirrored in the advert, thus indicating that it was knowingly selected. Another more recent example but a bit obvious was Teenage Riot used in a Marc Jacobs ad. Given that Sonic Youth signed to Geffen back in 1990 or so I would have thought that fans would realise what they could or would not do.
Nicely done, mutatis . Congratulations.
REFERENCE ANSWERS
1. Each song in Part A featured in a commercial advertisement. This was often contentious among some of the fans of the relevant band or musician, raising questions on the issue of "selling out".
Honda scooters commercial (1984)
- uploaded by Larry Bridges
Unsurprisingly, it was only the music to Walk on the Wild Side that was used for the Honda ad, not the full song with lyrics.
This is a good read, excerpted from Lou Reed โ a book by Anthony DeCurtis:
www.thedailybeast.com/did-lou-reeds-honda-ad-make-him-rocks-first-sellout
Levi's commercial (1991)
- uploaded by machinist
I'll admit that The Clash in a Levi's commercial still makes me cringe.
Here's another enjoyable article, written in 2012 by John Harris from The Guardian, with references to The Clash and Adam Yauch / MCA from The Beastie Boys:
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/12/beastie-boy-role-node-rock-stars
Wendy's commercial 1 (2007)
- uploaded by machinist
Wendy's commercial 2 (2007)
- uploaded by machinist
The Violent Femmes eventually did reunite, but Gordon Gano allowing Blister in the Sun to be used to sell hamburgers created a great deal of tension with the other band members:
www.adweek.com/creativity/burger-ad-prevents-violent-femmes-reunion-12855/
web.archive.org/web/20110501162424/http://www.spinner.com/2010/04/01/violent-femmmes-feud-hiatus-wendys-ad/
Vodafone commercial (2001)
- uploaded by machinist
The point at which I myself began reassessing my views about the use of songs in commercials came with this 2001 Vodafone commercial. It was due to a combination of factors, including me ageing and no longer seeking out new music as proactively as I once had. An increasing number of my song and band discoveries were therefore being made via YouTube, film and television soundtracks, and advertisements.
In this case with How Are You? (by Wieden + Kennedy Amsterdam), I also felt the ad was exceptionally well done โ even adding to the song, rather than lessening it. Nice touch at the end as well, with things coming full-circle, back to the festival girl.
This article from The Independent is by Ciar Byrne:
www.independent.co.uk/news/media/how-to-get-ahead-in-music-make-an-ad-516535.html
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(i) All the songs in Parts A and B were used by third-party entities, which would have required clearance by the relevant copyright holders.
(ii) The songs in Part A were put to use in an overtly commercial way, to help sell products or services. Each of the ones in Part B features in soundtrack, to complement a film or television programme.
Howling (รme Remix) by Ry & Frank Wiedemann โkicks in when the credits start rolling at the end of Taken 3. For me, this song was the best thing about the movie. It left me with a feeling that I had not just completely wasted my time.
When A Woman Is Around by Unloved was used in Killing Eve. That show is perhaps the closest I've been to having a crush on a fictional psychopath.
It's worth a watch, even just the first episode โ Season 1, Episode 1 (Nice Face). The opening sequence in the ice cream parlour is excellent: Villanelle studies and learns which facial expression is the most effective at getting a desired reaction from the child in front of her. Immediately afterwards, she demonstrates that she couldn't care less for the child.
I have no clue whatsoever about the second part of the question - but the first part - all the songs were used in adverts. In case a single line won't do and if I recall correctly you like Violent Femmes (forgive me if I've got that wrong). I know that the Violent Femmes fell out with each other when their song was used in a Wendys advert. But weren't they already split up? I don't know about the rep of Wendys ... but I am guessing they could have been linked to something a bit more fitting of their legacy, but when non-writers in the band give it the "art not commerce" line, I cynically wonder whether an equal songwriting royalty split would have placated them. Anyway they got back together didn't they?
As for the rest I am not sure about internal unrest and Lou Reed only had himself to argue with. Joe Strummer was reportedly miffed but only because a BAD II track was stuck on the B side (by Mick Jones) as the record climbed all the way to the top of the charts. More than one Dandy Warhols track has been used in adverts, so they can't be averse to the cash - depending on if it's being shared around.
As for fans - we can get upset easily and sometimes irrationally. People were upset when the Clash signed to CBS in 1977 and declared punk dead! The Clash had long disbanded when the song was re-released off the back of the Levi's ad, so not too much to get upset about or was there?
I'm guessing that Vodafone is not what you'd expect Dandy Warhols to be pushing. I didn't think any less of them, or any more of them.
Synch rights can represent a considerable slice of income for the writer/s, not just because of payment for the ad, but in knock-on sales ... so sometimes I guess needs must and let's assume that not all writers have vetos on use.
Equally, people went nuts when "Venus in Furs" was used for a tyre advert - but as I don't hold the Velvet Underground dear - I was pretty impressed with how the song's theme was mirrored in the advert, thus indicating that it was knowingly selected. Another more recent example but a bit obvious was Teenage Riot used in a Marc Jacobs ad. Given that Sonic Youth signed to Geffen back in 1990 or so I would have thought that fans would realise what they could or would not do.
Nicely done, mutatis . Congratulations. REFERENCE ANSWERS1. Each song in Part A featured in a commercial advertisement. This was often contentious among some of the fans of the relevant band or musician, raising questions on the issue of "selling out". Honda scooters commercial (1984)- uploaded by Larry BridgesUnsurprisingly, it was only the music to Walk on the Wild Side that was used for the Honda ad, not the full song with lyrics. This is a good read, excerpted from Lou Reed โ a book by Anthony DeCurtis: www.thedailybeast.com/did-lou-reeds-honda-ad-make-him-rocks-first-selloutLevi's commercial (1991)- uploaded by machinistI'll admit that The Clash in a Levi's commercial still makes me cringe. Here's another enjoyable article, written in 2012 by John Harris from The Guardian, with references to The Clash and Adam Yauch / MCA from The Beastie Boys: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/12/beastie-boy-role-node-rock-starsWendy's commercial 1 (2007)- uploaded by machinistWendy's commercial 2 (2007)- uploaded by machinistThe Violent Femmes eventually did reunite, but Gordon Gano allowing Blister in the Sun to be used to sell hamburgers created a great deal of tension with the other band members: www.adweek.com/creativity/burger-ad-prevents-violent-femmes-reunion-12855/web.archive.org/web/20110501162424/http://www.spinner.com/2010/04/01/violent-femmmes-feud-hiatus-wendys-ad/Vodafone commercial (2001)- uploaded by machinistThe point at which I myself began reassessing my views about the use of songs in commercials came with this 2001 Vodafone commercial. It was due to a combination of factors, including me ageing and no longer seeking out new music as proactively as I once had. An increasing number of my song and band discoveries were therefore being made via YouTube, film and television soundtracks, and advertisements. In this case with How Are You? (by Wieden + Kennedy Amsterdam), I also felt the ad was exceptionally well done โ even adding to the song, rather than lessening it. Nice touch at the end as well, with things coming full-circle, back to the festival girl. This article from The Independent is by Ciar Byrne: www.independent.co.uk/news/media/how-to-get-ahead-in-music-make-an-ad-516535.html2. (i) All the songs in Parts A and B were used by third-party entities, which would have required clearance by the relevant copyright holders. (ii) The songs in Part A were put to use in an overtly commercial way, to help sell products or services. Each of the ones in Part B features in soundtrack, to complement a film or television programme. Howling (รme Remix) by Ry & Frank Wiedemann โkicks in when the credits start rolling at the end of Taken 3. For me, this song was the best thing about the movie. It left me with a feeling that I had not just completely wasted my time. When A Woman Is Around by Unloved was used in Killing Eve. That show is perhaps the closest I've been to having a crush on a fictional psychopath. It's worth a watch, even just the first episode โ Season 1, Episode 1 ( Nice Face). The opening sequence in the ice cream parlour is excellent: Villanelle studies and learns which facial expression is the most effective at getting a desired reaction from the child in front of her. Immediately afterwards, she demonstrates that she couldn't care less for the child. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by dotdot on Mar 13, 2019 12:46:32 GMT 1, always nice to hear a bit about the femmes met - they had a good early run.
adverts ? they've all but past me by since the advent of a tivo - i'm still running an S1.
still , here's a few from the past..
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always nice to hear a bit about the femmes met - they had a good early run. adverts ? they've all but past me by since the advent of a tivo - i'm still running an S1. still , here's a few from the past.. LUNG s TWISt MENTal |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Mar 13, 2019 23:00:00 GMT 1, A.'Sunday Jumps' from Royal Wedding, starring Fred Astaire- uploaded by machinist[...] At around 22:00 UK time on Tuesday 12 March, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the questions are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one). [...] The video in Part A is a popular scene from the 1951 movie, Royal Wedding. Decades later, homage would be paid to Fred Astaire's routine with the hatstand, by the lead singer of a famous band. This took place during the live performance of a song, also captured in a well-known concert film of that band. Name: (i) the band; (ii) the title of the concert film; and (iii) the title of the specific song referred to. INDIRECT CLUEThe following works of art all have something in common. Connect the dots: Fair warning, then. Selling, for two million, one hundred thousand dollars. All done. For you, sir. Two million, one hundred thousand.If nobody gets the correct answers before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 22:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March.
The competition question and original clue were sufficient to find all three answers โ importantly, without even having to watch the concert film, or be especially familiar with the band and their music.
But with 24 hours having now passed, here are three more hints.
ADDITIONAL INDIRECT CLUES
1. Stop going for the easy buck and produce something with your life. Create, instead of living off the buying and selling of others.
2. Oh, and Senator, just one more thing... Love your suit.
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In the unlikely event nobody wins the competition before then, answers revealed at 22:00 UK time on Thursday 14 March.
A.'Sunday Jumps' from Royal Wedding, starring Fred Astaire- uploaded by machinist[...] At around 22:00 UK time on Tuesday 12 March, I'll quote this post and add one or more questions or instructions. The first member to answer correctly, wins. Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the questions are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one). [...] The video in Part A is a popular scene from the 1951 movie, Royal Wedding. Decades later, homage would be paid to Fred Astaire's routine with the hatstand, by the lead singer of a famous band. This took place during the live performance of a song, also captured in a well-known concert film of that band. Name: (i) the band; (ii) the title of the concert film; and (iii) the title of the specific song referred to. INDIRECT CLUEThe following works of art all have something in common. Connect the dots: Fair warning, then. Selling, for two million, one hundred thousand dollars. All done. For you, sir. Two million, one hundred thousand.If nobody gets the correct answers before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 22:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March. The competition question and original clue were sufficient to find all three answers โ importantly, without even having to watch the concert film, or be especially familiar with the band and their music. But with 24 hours having now passed, here are three more hints. ADDITIONAL INDIRECT CLUES1. Stop going for the easy buck and produce something with your life. Create, instead of living off the buying and selling of others.2. Oh, and Senator, just one more thing... Love your suit.3. In the unlikely event nobody wins the competition before then, answers revealed at 22:00 UK time on Thursday 14 March. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by viz on Mar 14, 2019 0:03:04 GMT 1, Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the questions are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one). [...] The video in Part A is a popular scene from the 1951 movie, Royal Wedding. Decades later, homage would be paid to Fred Astaire's routine with the hatstand, by the lead singer of a famous band. This took place during the live performance of a song, also captured in a well-known concert film of that band. Name: (i) the band; (ii) the title of the concert film; and (iii) the title of the specific song referred to. INDIRECT CLUEThe following works of art all have something in common. Connect the dots: Fair warning, then. Selling, for two million, one hundred thousand dollars. All done. For you, sir. Two million, one hundred thousand.If nobody gets the correct answers before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 22:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March. The competition question and original clue were sufficient to find all three answers โ importantly, without even having to watch the concert film, or be especially familiar with the band and their music. But with 24 hours having now passed, here are three more hints. ADDITIONAL INDIRECT CLUES1. Stop going for the easy buck and produce something with your life. Create, instead of living off the buying and selling of others.2. Oh, and Senator, just one more thing... Love your suit.3. In the unlikely event nobody wins the competition before then, answers revealed at 22:00 UK time on Thursday 14 March.
Name:
(i) Talking heads
(ii) stop making sense (1984)
(iii) This Must Be The Place
minute 48
The first sentence is from the movie " wall street", as well as the paintings, and part of the soundtracj was by David Byrne.
The second sentence is from "the silence of the lambs", Jonathan Demme being the director of stop making sense too.
Any answer provided must be clear, and in a single unedited post. Multiple attempts by a member at answering the questions are not permitted (including by deleting their original answer and posting a revised one). [...] The video in Part A is a popular scene from the 1951 movie, Royal Wedding. Decades later, homage would be paid to Fred Astaire's routine with the hatstand, by the lead singer of a famous band. This took place during the live performance of a song, also captured in a well-known concert film of that band. Name: (i) the band; (ii) the title of the concert film; and (iii) the title of the specific song referred to. INDIRECT CLUEThe following works of art all have something in common. Connect the dots: Fair warning, then. Selling, for two million, one hundred thousand dollars. All done. For you, sir. Two million, one hundred thousand.If nobody gets the correct answers before then, additional clues will be posted in 24 hours โ at around 22:00 UK time on Wednesday 13 March. The competition question and original clue were sufficient to find all three answers โ importantly, without even having to watch the concert film, or be especially familiar with the band and their music. But with 24 hours having now passed, here are three more hints. ADDITIONAL INDIRECT CLUES1. Stop going for the easy buck and produce something with your life. Create, instead of living off the buying and selling of others.2. Oh, and Senator, just one more thing... Love your suit.3. In the unlikely event nobody wins the competition before then, answers revealed at 22:00 UK time on Thursday 14 March. Name: (i) Talking heads (ii) stop making sense (1984) (iii) This Must Be The Place minute 48 The first sentence is from the movie " wall street", as well as the paintings, and part of the soundtracj was by David Byrne. The second sentence is from "the silence of the lambs", Jonathan Demme being the director of stop making sense too. |
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THE MET LOTTERY, by met on Mar 14, 2019 0:38:40 GMT 1, The competition question and original clue were sufficient to find all three answers โ importantly, without even having to watch the concert film, or be especially familiar with the band and their music. But with 24 hours having now passed, here are three more hints. ADDITIONAL INDIRECT CLUES1. Stop going for the easy buck and produce something with your life. Create, instead of living off the buying and selling of others.2. Oh, and Senator, just one more thing... Love your suit.3. In the unlikely event nobody wins the competition before then, answers revealed at 22:00 UK time on Thursday 14 March. Name: (i) Talking heads (ii) stop making sense (1984) (iii) This Must Be The Place minute 48 The first sentence is from the movie " wall street", as well as the paintings, and part of the soundtracj was by David Byrne. The second sentence is from "the silence of the lambs", Jonathan Demme being the director of stop making sense too.
Congratulations, viz. You win.
[Although the rules required answers in a single unedited post, I did see you responded to all three questions correctly in the original post โ and that the subsequent edit was just to add explanatory details.]
REFERENCE ANSWER
(i) Band: Talking Heads;
(ii) Concert film: Stop Making Sense (1984); and
(iii) Song: This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody).
Relevance of the original indirect clue
Artworks depicted:
Joan Mirรณ - Paysage (1974)
Pablo Picasso - The Matador (1970)
Donald Sultan - Black Lemon (1985)
Lucas Samaras - The Collectors (1985)
Jean Dubuffet - Mira G 131 (Kowloon) (1983)
James Rosenquist - Samba School (1986)
All these pieces featured in the film, Wall Street (1987), directed by Oliver Stone. DOH spotted the connection early on, and I had assumed someone else would immediately run with that information and win the competition.
The quote posted beneath the art is taken from the same movie. It's from the auction scene when Gordon Gekko wins the Rosenquist for $2,100,000.
Just as an aside, below are a few of the many other artworks in the film.
More by Dubuffet from Pace Gallery:
Jim Dine:
John Chamberlain:
One of the godawful broken-plate pieces by Oliver Stone's friend, Julian Schnabel:
The significance of Wall Street
The film soundtrack includes This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody) by Talking Heads. That is the main tune, since it's actually played twice in the film โ when Bud Fox moves into his new apartment, and during the end credits.
[My understanding is the song was brought back again for the sequel, Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps (2010).]
By the way, Googling "[best / famous / must-see] concert films" brings up many lists in the search results. Stop Making Sense typically ranks among the top 10 or top 5 of each one.
Relevance of the additional indirect clues
1. Another quote from Wall Street, this time by Carl Fox when speaking to his son, Bud.
2. Quote from The Silence of the Lambs (1991), directed by Jonathan Demme โ who also directed Stop Making Sense.
3. The three pieces pictured were made by artists who all created work for the covers of Talking Heads albums:
Jimmy DeSana - More Songs About Buildings and Food (1978)
Robert Rauschenberg - the limited-edition LP version of Speaking in Tongues (1983), for which he received a Grammy Award
Howard Finster - Little Creatures (1985)
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Although not hugely interesting, this Vulture / New York magazine article by Jesse David Fox does drum home the extent to which music by Talking Heads has been used in movie soundtracks:
www.vulture.com/2012/11/what-the-talking-heads-song-says-about-movie.html
The competition question and original clue were sufficient to find all three answers โ importantly, without even having to watch the concert film, or be especially familiar with the band and their music. But with 24 hours having now passed, here are three more hints. ADDITIONAL INDIRECT CLUES1. Stop going for the easy buck and produce something with your life. Create, instead of living off the buying and selling of others.2. Oh, and Senator, just one more thing... Love your suit.3. In the unlikely event nobody wins the competition before then, answers revealed at 22:00 UK time on Thursday 14 March. Name: (i) Talking heads (ii) stop making sense (1984) (iii) This Must Be The Place minute 48 The first sentence is from the movie " wall street", as well as the paintings, and part of the soundtracj was by David Byrne. The second sentence is from "the silence of the lambs", Jonathan Demme being the director of stop making sense too. Congratulations, viz. You win. [Although the rules required answers in a single unedited post, I did see you responded to all three questions correctly in the original post โ and that the subsequent edit was just to add explanatory details.]REFERENCE ANSWER(i) Band: Talking Heads; (ii) Concert film: Stop Making Sense (1984); and (iii) Song: This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody). Relevance of the original indirect clueArtworks depicted: Joan Mirรณ - Paysage (1974) Pablo Picasso - The Matador (1970) Donald Sultan - Black Lemon (1985) Lucas Samaras - The Collectors (1985) Jean Dubuffet - Mira G 131 (Kowloon) (1983) James Rosenquist - Samba School (1986) All these pieces featured in the film, Wall Street (1987), directed by Oliver Stone. DOH spotted the connection early on, and I had assumed someone else would immediately run with that information and win the competition. The quote posted beneath the art is taken from the same movie. It's from the auction scene when Gordon Gekko wins the Rosenquist for $2,100,000. Just as an aside, below are a few of the many other artworks in the film. More by Dubuffet from Pace Gallery: Jim Dine: John Chamberlain: One of the godawful broken-plate pieces by Oliver Stone's friend, Julian Schnabel: The significance of Wall Street The film soundtrack includes This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody) by Talking Heads. That is the main tune, since it's actually played twice in the film โ when Bud Fox moves into his new apartment, and during the end credits.
[My understanding is the song was brought back again for the sequel, Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps (2010).]By the way, Googling "[best / famous / must-see] concert films" brings up many lists in the search results. Stop Making Sense typically ranks among the top 10 or top 5 of each one. Relevance of the additional indirect clues1. Another quote from Wall Street, this time by Carl Fox when speaking to his son, Bud. 2. Quote from The Silence of the Lambs (1991), directed by Jonathan Demme โ who also directed Stop Making Sense. 3. The three pieces pictured were made by artists who all created work for the covers of Talking Heads albums: Jimmy DeSana - More Songs About Buildings and Food (1978) Robert Rauschenberg - the limited-edition LP version of Speaking in Tongues (1983), for which he received a Grammy Award Howard Finster - Little Creatures (1985) __________ Although not hugely interesting, this Vulture / New York magazine article by Jesse David Fox does drum home the extent to which music by Talking Heads has been used in movie soundtracks: www.vulture.com/2012/11/what-the-talking-heads-song-says-about-movie.html |
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