So you expect us to believe that Shopify lied to GP about how their system works instead of looking at this as the never ending lies of GP.

i would have replied sooner but been dealing with all the emails all last night and this morning.

a customer told us a few days ago, cart was removed but Shopify insisted on help and the phone that the cart was still there. they are crap imo and we will probably move asap.

in all my year's none of my friends have bought a print, only one collects and he bought an original off me a few months ago, he posts here etc etongroover.

family is the same they just dont get what i do.

vip we have max about 10 customers who i would always sell too, they support us over all releases etc and from the beginning.

i only sold 6 pre orders on lottery prints and around 20 on martins curtain main + 2 acrylic.

i have nothing to hide etc and can not understand why these big platforms like shopify take away the cart what differece does it make to them?

with a cart or without causes its own problems and on a very over subscribed print no matter how we sell its going to have people who missed out and are disapointed.

i have said before we oftern hold back prints, 1-5 on small editions, 1-10 on big editions, in this case we held back 10 mains, 3 landscapes and 2 sniks. these include my no.1 which i will never sell.

i feel so lucky to be in the postion we are in, i have loved collecting from 1999/2000 onwards, this made me set up zerocool with ant in 2007/8 which was tough esp as we started dead on the big crash, so i know both sides.

i dont take it for granted and feel very lucky that my prints sell and i am able to continue to invest in artists and move forward.

i honestly think we are the most transparant place out there, keeping our prices down vs the quality of the prints we produce and what goes into each one.

i see so many places start up say you will never see poa on our site and we going to do this and that, then they end up just flipping secondary works like banksy, invader etc and hype the price up and up.

if you read our opening statment back in 2012 it still reads true, we sell at good prices, even when we sell much later from archives i always go way under ebay prices etc

i know how fustrating it can be missing out on something you really want i really do, thats why we respond to emails etc.

i think this will prompt us to want a lottery on martins prints going forward which is a crazy amount of work but probaly worth it now vs the demand and how much time we have to spend after a release doing emails etc.

there is no perfect way to release but i am open to any idea's that will work....

sorry again to those who missed out

giancarlo

Thanks for the reply.
It was good to change the purchase link and add numbers to the direct link (3656).
But maybe next time write m4r7in wh4ts0n, everbody thats F5ing knows what to purchase.
I felt it took 30 seconds or a minute longer to sell out.. so i was thinking the bots couldnt score (if they even exist)
I just relaxed after carting because of the advertised 5 min checkout time

Good on you Giancarlo

It's a frustrating business I am sure. I was after one, even logged into PayPal on a separate tab for speed but still lost it out of the cart. I think it comes down to having a bot now if you really want something which is a shame. The only other way to do it is a release in person, first come first serve. That way the people who want them most will camp out!

How many other Galleries would come on here and explain their case SO Honestly...? Not many!!!
Respect from this quarter ... Well explained Gian.

I really never understood the beef people on here have with GP. I've bought a few prints through them and whenever there was a concern, I just emailed and always got full transparency.

Galleries will always have a list of preferred clients because that's how they maintain relationships that could keep everything afloat with consistent cash flow when/if things go bad. The fact that GP has not only openly admitted to a list, but also given info about how many people are on it, makes me want to support them even more. Plus, for every print, I have yet to find one place that doesn't hold APs or PPs for a potential private sale. It's the nature of the industry. And a little bit of advice that has worked wonders for me in the past few years: Talk to the artists directly. Many of them are accessible via email/social media and would love to help out a supporter. If you establish relationships with your favorite artists directly, you may not even need to go through galleries anymore.

Lastly, I've worked with galleries of all sizes and I can say that not one has been able to perfect the online-release process. That's why I'm not surprised that the carting issue was simply an honest mistake due to an honest attempt to make the process better. GP has heard your concerns and, unlike many galleries, will likely try to improve it again.

Graffiti Prints you seem relatively-active on this forum. So before your next release, please set aside time to discuss with people on this forum about how it will be different and implement where possible.

Again, congrats to all the collectors who have scored and a big f**k you to the flippers.

Now to start my day....

Those are some very interesting and valid points - I never considered it from that perspective. With that in mind, I can say that my inclination to paint GP in good light is derived from personal experience and optimistic views. 

So does that mean I can sell my variant for £6,000,000?? ;-)

Not that Whatson really qualifies for this point, but bigger runs deplete the value in the long run. Whatson releases too many prints to realistically maintian value in the long run, imho. Unless he becomes an icon on the genre, I dont see the work holding value. Maybe a few key images but not the whole body. It's too derivative imho.

In his defense, I have to say that this half giclee/screen print was quite innovative. So maybe my criticism is premature.

I can't even understand the rationale people are paying that much attention to this work to warrant 4 pages here. I have seen a similar image of this on canvas done by a (relatively) unknown artist at Affordable Art Fair a couple of years ago, and that piece is stronger in both concept and context (showing the protagonist tearing away the actual canvas revealing the back stretcher wood frame) - that is, if this kind of art really appeals to anyone. And it didn't sell after 3 days.

But tags or no tags, what's the story behind this piece other than just some nice eye candy? Even Kunstrasen's works come off witty and humorous following such said formula, but this??

Each to their own, but why even comment here, if you're not liking Martin's work?

The last thing I'd do is pop into another artist's thread, and begin to say their work is sheit. But that's just me.

Last week Thursday/Sat...

I agree, it's the same people who fling the same stuff every Whatson release. Maybe they're closeted Whatson fans who secretly have a burning desire to see him succeed and are trying to push him to evolve the way they want him to.

Others just don't like GP for whatever reason - expecting that GP actually owes them something. It's his business and he can operate however he wants and sell to whomever he desires. There's no need to revisit every GP release and send insults - feels like the after-effects of a breakup that wasn't mutual.

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