Graham H
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Dec 13, 2018 14:45:37 GMT 1
Brexit, by Graham H on Dec 13, 2018 14:45:37 GMT 1, Just about sums it up perfectly..
I don't understand what else Labour can say or do? They ARE saying what they think will be best for the country. Their 6 points are fairly generic, but at least they put them up for discussion. Yes, May failing will benefit them. But that's happening anyway. Partisan politics aside, both parties are absolutely pathetic in this situation Tories created a big mess, and are fighting amongst themselves over who can do the worst clean up job Labour, have been given the gift of a self destructing Tories, and yet can't figure out their stance on Brexit and cobbled together this utterly pathetic list of wishful thinking even a 12 years old could see through And the world watches in amazement as the circus continues...
Just about sums it up perfectly.. I don't understand what else Labour can say or do? They ARE saying what they think will be best for the country. Their 6 points are fairly generic, but at least they put them up for discussion. Yes, May failing will benefit them. But that's happening anyway. Partisan politics aside, both parties are absolutely pathetic in this situation Tories created a big mess, and are fighting amongst themselves over who can do the worst clean up job Labour, have been given the gift of a self destructing Tories, and yet can't figure out their stance on Brexit and cobbled together this utterly pathetic list of wishful thinking even a 12 years old could see through And the world watches in amazement as the circus continues... |
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Dec 13, 2018 16:20:45 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Schrödinger's Chat on Dec 13, 2018 16:20:45 GMT 1, On a positive note (for the EU) they have just signed one of the worlds biggest free trade deals with Japan, I don't suppose we will see the benefits of that deal.
Still Rees Smug or Davis or someone will be telling us that Japan are knocking on the UKs door begging us to strike a trade deal with them,it will be 10 times bigger, 10 times better and will come riding into town on a rainbow coloured unicorn wearing a glittery bow tie.
Easiest deal in human history!
www.dw.com/en/eu-parliament-approves-worlds-largest-free-trade-deal-with-japan/a-46699492
On a positive note (for the EU) they have just signed one of the worlds biggest free trade deals with Japan, I don't suppose we will see the benefits of that deal. Still Rees Smug or Davis or someone will be telling us that Japan are knocking on the UKs door begging us to strike a trade deal with them,it will be 10 times bigger, 10 times better and will come riding into town on a rainbow coloured unicorn wearing a glittery bow tie. Easiest deal in human history! www.dw.com/en/eu-parliament-approves-worlds-largest-free-trade-deal-with-japan/a-46699492 |
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Dec 13, 2018 18:29:29 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 18:29:29 GMT 1, The thing about Labour's six tests is that the best way to achieve all six is to remain in the EU. Job done! Number 2 is, quite frankly, absurd. You can't expect to get the "exact same benefits" when you are outside the EU. It doesn't even make sense to ask for it. It's like leaving a book club and expecting to still receive the book club discount after you've left the club. The “exact same benefits” test comes from the brexiteers asserting that that is what would be achieved. I think Labour know it’s not possible. It’s making a point about what was promised, I think. I can’t recall who promised it in the first place. Gove?
The thing about Labour's six tests is that the best way to achieve all six is to remain in the EU. Job done! Number 2 is, quite frankly, absurd. You can't expect to get the "exact same benefits" when you are outside the EU. It doesn't even make sense to ask for it. It's like leaving a book club and expecting to still receive the book club discount after you've left the club. The “exact same benefits” test comes from the brexiteers asserting that that is what would be achieved. I think Labour know it’s not possible. It’s making a point about what was promised, I think. I can’t recall who promised it in the first place. Gove? You're right that the phrase "exact same benefits" originated from one of the Tory Brexiteers but for Labour to endorse it as one of their 'six tests' is just plain daft. It's not going to happen. They have set themselves up to fail before they've even begun. |
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Dec 13, 2018 18:36:41 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 18:36:41 GMT 1, This is video of Theresa May explaining her position on Brexit in 2016. How does this tally with her stated position on Brexit since she became Prime Minister? Clearly either she is dishonest (her positions then and since being totally incompatible), or she has completely changed her mind since the referendum. I know which I think is more likely, but it is possible that she has become belatedly and completely convinced of the case for Brexit. If that is what has happened, though, why does she insist that the snapshot of public opinion taken in 2016, in which she cast her own vote for something she now completely disagrees with, represents the unimprovable "will of the people", and deny the rest of the electorate a chance to change their own minds? I'm not convinced that a second referendum would produce a different outcome, and fear another campaign will be as damaging (and corrupt) as the first, but her positions on Brexit and a people's vote appear completely contradictory.
This is video of Theresa May explaining her position on Brexit in 2016. How does this tally with her stated position on Brexit since she became Prime Minister? Clearly either she is dishonest (her positions then and since being totally incompatible), or she has completely changed her mind since the referendum. I know which I think is more likely, but it is possible that she has become belatedly and completely convinced of the case for Brexit. If that is what has happened, though, why does she insist that the snapshot of public opinion taken in 2016, in which she cast her own vote for something she now completely disagrees with, represents the unimprovable "will of the people", and deny the rest of the electorate a chance to change their own minds? I'm not convinced that a second referendum would produce a different outcome, and fear another campaign will be as damaging (and corrupt) as the first, but her positions on Brexit and a people's vote appear completely contradictory. It's not contradictory. As an individual she voted to Remain. That's no secret. But as the PM it is her duty to implement what has been decided by others. It's in her job description. She can't just implement whatever she thinks is best. She's not allowed. I'm sure there are plenty of previous PMs who have implemented changes they disagree with. |
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Dec 13, 2018 18:40:04 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 18:40:04 GMT 1, I think it's more or less impossible to explain anything brexit related now. It's difficult to see how the Tories could make any more of a mess of it, on the flip side labour and the ERG etc have offered precisely no alternative solution either. May keeps her job only by promising that she won't stick around much longer, not a great footing to be on. A complete omnishambles. The ERG have said they will get a better deal. Thats all the detail we need isnt it? 😉
But how would they actually go about doing it? Would they rip up the deal that has been signed and asked if they can start again from scratch and ignore everything that's been talked about for the past 2 years?
I think it's more or less impossible to explain anything brexit related now. It's difficult to see how the Tories could make any more of a mess of it, on the flip side labour and the ERG etc have offered precisely no alternative solution either. May keeps her job only by promising that she won't stick around much longer, not a great footing to be on. A complete omnishambles. The ERG have said they will get a better deal. Thats all the detail we need isnt it? 😉 Well they would, wouldn't they. ;-) But how would they actually go about doing it? Would they rip up the deal that has been signed and asked if they can start again from scratch and ignore everything that's been talked about for the past 2 years? |
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Dec 13, 2018 18:42:12 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 18:42:12 GMT 1, Perhaps someone could explain something to me... What will a change of PM actually achieve? The withdrawal agreement has already been signed. If Boris became the PM tomorrow how would he be able to alter anything? People must be clearly deluded if they think that with a change of PM we could go back to the EU and say "forget about the last 2 years of work; can we start the negotiations all over again please". These anti-May Brexiters have completely lost the plot. If any new Tory Leader wanted to renegotiate, all they'd have to do is rescind A50 and then table it again. That'd reset the clock.
Perhaps someone could explain something to me... What will a change of PM actually achieve? The withdrawal agreement has already been signed. If Boris became the PM tomorrow how would he be able to alter anything? People must be clearly deluded if they think that with a change of PM we could go back to the EU and say "forget about the last 2 years of work; can we start the negotiations all over again please". These anti-May Brexiters have completely lost the plot. If any new Tory Leader wanted to renegotiate, all they'd have to do is rescind A50 and then table it again. That'd reset the clock. If I was on the EU side and they suggested that to me, I would tell them to bugger off! |
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Dec 13, 2018 18:54:11 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Dec 13, 2018 18:54:11 GMT 1, If any new Tory Leader wanted to renegotiate, all they'd have to do is rescind A50 and then table it again. That'd reset the clock. If I was on the EU side and they suggested that to me, I would tell them to bugger off!
But the EU can't do anything about it. Negotiations might be harder next time round, but the EU can't legally stop the UK triggering or rescinding A50.
If any new Tory Leader wanted to renegotiate, all they'd have to do is rescind A50 and then table it again. That'd reset the clock. If I was on the EU side and they suggested that to me, I would tell them to bugger off! But the EU can't do anything about it. Negotiations might be harder next time round, but the EU can't legally stop the UK triggering or rescinding A50. |
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Dec 13, 2018 19:00:00 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 19:00:00 GMT 1, The ERG have said they will get a better deal. Thats all the detail we need isnt it? 😉 Well they would, wouldn't they. ;-) But how would they actually go about doing it? Would they rip up the deal that has been signed and asked if they can start again from scratch and ignore everything that's been talked about for the past 2 years?
They want out out, so they can make all their own uk rules fucking the workers and providing an either bigger gap between the have and have nots.
they are on the top naughty step
The ERG have said they will get a better deal. Thats all the detail we need isnt it? 😉 Well they would, wouldn't they. ;-) But how would they actually go about doing it? Would they rip up the deal that has been signed and asked if they can start again from scratch and ignore everything that's been talked about for the past 2 years? They want out out, so they can make all their own uk rules fucking the workers and providing an either bigger gap between the have and have nots. they are on the top naughty step |
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love
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Dec 13, 2018 23:39:44 GMT 1
Brexit, by love on Dec 13, 2018 23:39:44 GMT 1, Stop! Chistmas brake! Continue the discussion at 7th january. Don’t hurry the fuck!
Stop! Chistmas brake! Continue the discussion at 7th january. Don’t hurry the fuck!
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Dec 13, 2018 23:48:24 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Coach on Dec 13, 2018 23:48:24 GMT 1, End of an era, starting on bbc 1, now.
End of an era, starting on bbc 1, now.
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mojo
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Dec 14, 2018 0:12:02 GMT 1
Brexit, by mojo on Dec 14, 2018 0:12:02 GMT 1, End of an era, starting on bbc 1, now.
Good luck to Fiona Bruce, although she has some very big shoes to fill.
End of an era, starting on bbc 1, now. I'll be raising a glass, hard to believe its been 25 years! He's done a sterling job and has done more for British politics than most politicians could only ever dream of. Surely it should be Sir David Dimbleby? Good luck to Fiona Bruce, although she has some very big shoes to fill. |
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Dec 14, 2018 0:55:25 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Coach on Dec 14, 2018 0:55:25 GMT 1, End of an era, starting on bbc 1, now. I'll be raising a glass, hard to believe its been 25 years! He's done a sterling job and has done more for British politics than most politicians could only ever dream of. Surely it should be Sir David Dimbleby? Good luck to Fiona Bruce, although she has some very big shoes to fill.
A well deserved standing ovation.
End of an era, starting on bbc 1, now. I'll be raising a glass, hard to believe its been 25 years! He's done a sterling job and has done more for British politics than most politicians could only ever dream of. Surely it should be Sir David Dimbleby? Good luck to Fiona Bruce, although she has some very big shoes to fill. A well deserved standing ovation. |
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.dappy
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Dec 14, 2018 2:25:33 GMT 1
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Brexit, by .dappy on Dec 14, 2018 2:25:33 GMT 1, ... even Labour do not want to trigger a vote of No Confidence in May/the Conservative Govt as 1) they do not know what to do themselves and 2) know that they won't win a General Election at this point in time ...
BBC News - Why is Jeremy Corbyn not trying to topple Theresa May right now?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46552939
... they need the complete shambles of brexit to be enacted on the 29 March ...
... the gamble for Labour is that the Tories themselves don't revoke Article 50 before the 29th deadline - as recently allowed for by the ECJ ... if they do ... then Labour are stuffed ...
... even Labour do not want to trigger a vote of No Confidence in May/the Conservative Govt as 1) they do not know what to do themselves and 2) know that they won't win a General Election at this point in time ... BBC News - Why is Jeremy Corbyn not trying to topple Theresa May right now? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46552939... they need the complete shambles of brexit to be enacted on the 29 March ... ... the gamble for Labour is that the Tories themselves don't revoke Article 50 before the 29th deadline - as recently allowed for by the ECJ ... if they do ... then Labour are stuffed ... |
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Chris JL
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Brexit, by Chris JL on Dec 14, 2018 9:30:36 GMT 1, Labour's 6 tests for Brexit: 1. Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU? 2. Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union? 3. Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities? 4. Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom? 5. Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime? 6. Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK? I'm not sure all those things are possible, but at least it's an upfront starting point for negotiation.
Conservatives don't seem to publicly have a similar set of objectives.
... there is a very simple policy stance that delivers on all 6 of them... it’s called remain...
Labour's 6 tests for Brexit: 1. Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU? 2. Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union? 3. Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities? 4. Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom? 5. Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime? 6. Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK? I'm not sure all those things are possible, but at least it's an upfront starting point for negotiation.
Conservatives don't seem to publicly have a similar set of objectives.... there is a very simple policy stance that delivers on all 6 of them... it’s called remain... |
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Dec 14, 2018 11:26:32 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 11:26:32 GMT 1, Labour's 6 tests for Brexit: 1. Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU? 2. Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union? 3. Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities? 4. Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom? 5. Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime? 6. Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK? I'm not sure all those things are possible, but at least it's an upfront starting point for negotiation.
Conservatives don't seem to publicly have a similar set of objectives.... there is a very simple policy stance that delivers on all 6 of them... it’s called remain...
Labour's 6 tests for Brexit: 1. Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU? 2. Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union? 3. Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities? 4. Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom? 5. Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime? 6. Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK? I'm not sure all those things are possible, but at least it's an upfront starting point for negotiation.
Conservatives don't seem to publicly have a similar set of objectives.... there is a very simple policy stance that delivers on all 6 of them... it’s called remain... Exactly. I think it's sad that Labour as well as the Conservatives are playing politics with such an important issue as this. If they truly believed in their six tests they would be campaigning to scrap Brexit and stay in the EU...but they wont. |
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Dec 14, 2018 12:06:44 GMT 1
Brexit, by Happy Shopper on Dec 14, 2018 12:06:44 GMT 1, ... there is a very simple policy stance that delivers on all 6 of them... it’s called remain... Exactly. I think it's sad that Labour as well as the Conservatives are playing politics with such an important issue as this. If they truly believed in their six tests they would be campaigning to scrap Brexit and stay in the EU...but they wont.
They feel they can't, because the Boris Johnsons, Moggs and the press will hit them with "The Will of The People", "Destroying Democracy" headlines.
Differing opinions and facts are just smacked down with "project fear"... This is why our politics are broken.
Cowering to the press and saying what people want to hear has taken over from actual leadership.
... there is a very simple policy stance that delivers on all 6 of them... it’s called remain... Exactly. I think it's sad that Labour as well as the Conservatives are playing politics with such an important issue as this. If they truly believed in their six tests they would be campaigning to scrap Brexit and stay in the EU...but they wont. They feel they can't, because the Boris Johnsons, Moggs and the press will hit them with "The Will of The People", "Destroying Democracy" headlines. Differing opinions and facts are just smacked down with "project fear"... This is why our politics are broken. Cowering to the press and saying what people want to hear has taken over from actual leadership. |
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Dec 14, 2018 12:31:59 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 12:31:59 GMT 1, Exactly. I think it's sad that Labour as well as the Conservatives are playing politics with such an important issue as this. If they truly believed in their six tests they would be campaigning to scrap Brexit and stay in the EU...but they wont. They feel they can't, because the Boris Johnsons, Moggs and the press will hit them with "The Will of The People", "Destroying Democracy" headlines. Differing opinions and facts are just smacked down with "project fear"... This is why our politics are broken. Cowering to the press and saying what people want to hear has taken over from actual leadership.
Exactly. I think it's sad that Labour as well as the Conservatives are playing politics with such an important issue as this. If they truly believed in their six tests they would be campaigning to scrap Brexit and stay in the EU...but they wont. They feel they can't, because the Boris Johnsons, Moggs and the press will hit them with "The Will of The People", "Destroying Democracy" headlines. Differing opinions and facts are just smacked down with "project fear"... This is why our politics are broken. Cowering to the press and saying what people want to hear has taken over from actual leadership. I don't think it's to do with cowering to the press but more like a fear of upsetting some of their supporters, which seems to matter more than what's good for the country. But if Labour are truly paralysed in to inaction by the fear that the press might not like what they do then they don't deserve to be in government. Corbyn et al need to grow a pair. |
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Dec 14, 2018 13:27:37 GMT 1
Brexit, by Happy Shopper on Dec 14, 2018 13:27:37 GMT 1, They feel they can't, because the Boris Johnsons, Moggs and the press will hit them with "The Will of The People", "Destroying Democracy" headlines. Differing opinions and facts are just smacked down with "project fear"... This is why our politics are broken. Cowering to the press and saying what people want to hear has taken over from actual leadership. I don't think it's to do with cowering to the press but more like a fear of upsetting some of their supporters, which seems to matter more than what's good for the country. But if Labour are truly paralysed in to inaction by the fear that the press might not like what they do then they don't deserve to be in government. Corbyn et al need to grow a pair.
Yep... It's basically the same thing. The press will tell the people they're being done over if ANYONE outright says they'd revoke article 50. The majority will believe it because the press won't explain why and won't broadcast any legitimate explanation.
Much better for their rating and distribution to create a drama.
But I strongly believe this WILL happen. No deal is not an option (it just can't happen), and the only other option will be accept a deal and the backstop (staying in the customs union indefinitely), or revoke Article 50.
I think Labour have their hands tied by the situation as much as anyone. No one can win, but Labour can wait and watch the Tories lose... then do whatever they have to do anyway.
Calling an election now or later will make no difference to the situation right now.
They feel they can't, because the Boris Johnsons, Moggs and the press will hit them with "The Will of The People", "Destroying Democracy" headlines. Differing opinions and facts are just smacked down with "project fear"... This is why our politics are broken. Cowering to the press and saying what people want to hear has taken over from actual leadership. I don't think it's to do with cowering to the press but more like a fear of upsetting some of their supporters, which seems to matter more than what's good for the country. But if Labour are truly paralysed in to inaction by the fear that the press might not like what they do then they don't deserve to be in government. Corbyn et al need to grow a pair. Yep... It's basically the same thing. The press will tell the people they're being done over if ANYONE outright says they'd revoke article 50. The majority will believe it because the press won't explain why and won't broadcast any legitimate explanation. Much better for their rating and distribution to create a drama. But I strongly believe this WILL happen. No deal is not an option (it just can't happen), and the only other option will be accept a deal and the backstop (staying in the customs union indefinitely), or revoke Article 50. I think Labour have their hands tied by the situation as much as anyone. No one can win, but Labour can wait and watch the Tories lose... then do whatever they have to do anyway. Calling an election now or later will make no difference to the situation right now. |
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Dec 14, 2018 13:43:26 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 13:43:26 GMT 1, The EU have confirmed to Theresa May that the agreement will NOT be amended. Whether it is Theresa May, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn, it won't make a blind bit of difference. This gets worse by the minute. I think we are moving closer and closer to a 'no deal' scenario.
The EU have confirmed to Theresa May that the agreement will NOT be amended. Whether it is Theresa May, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn, it won't make a blind bit of difference. This gets worse by the minute. I think we are moving closer and closer to a 'no deal' scenario.
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Dec 14, 2018 13:56:35 GMT 1
Brexit, by k2 on Dec 14, 2018 13:56:35 GMT 1, The EU have confirmed to Theresa May that the agreement will NOT be amended. Whether it is Theresa May, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn, it won't make a blind bit of difference. This gets worse by the minute. I think we are moving closer and closer to a 'no deal' scenario.
The EU have confirmed to Theresa May that the agreement will NOT be amended. Whether it is Theresa May, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn, it won't make a blind bit of difference. This gets worse by the minute. I think we are moving closer and closer to a 'no deal' scenario. Hopefully (although I know you will disagree) we are moving closer to a "people's vote" scenario, where we get another chance to decide now we know the reality of what is on offer. No idea how it would work in practice, or what the question/options on the hypothetical referendum might be, but continuing with this farce just because "it's what we voted for" (it isn't) is clearly not in our best interest. |
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Dec 14, 2018 14:31:26 GMT 1
Brexit, by love on Dec 14, 2018 14:31:26 GMT 1, The EU have confirmed to Theresa May that the agreement will NOT be amended. Whether it is Theresa May, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn, it won't make a blind bit of difference. This gets worse by the minute. I think we are moving closer and closer to a 'no deal' scenario. Hopefully (although I know you will disagree) we are moving closer to a "people's vote" scenario, where we get another chance to decide now we know the reality of what is on offer. No idea how it would work in practice, or what the question/options on the hypothetical referendum might be, but continuing with this farce just because "it's what we voted for" (it isn't) is clearly not in our best interest.
It was well known what could happen, so stop that complaining „we didn‘t want to...“.
It‘s sad, but if you decide that a gun in your household is a good idea, it is possible that your kids blow their head off... „but i didn’t knew... i didn‘t want to...“ wtf, clean that floor and live on that island without migrants, this is what you deserve.
The EU have confirmed to Theresa May that the agreement will NOT be amended. Whether it is Theresa May, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn, it won't make a blind bit of difference. This gets worse by the minute. I think we are moving closer and closer to a 'no deal' scenario. Hopefully (although I know you will disagree) we are moving closer to a "people's vote" scenario, where we get another chance to decide now we know the reality of what is on offer. No idea how it would work in practice, or what the question/options on the hypothetical referendum might be, but continuing with this farce just because "it's what we voted for" (it isn't) is clearly not in our best interest. „Another chance to decide now...“ Wtf is wrong with you guys? It‘s your task to inform yourself, before you vote. Can‘t believe that you living in a bubble on that island. It was well known what could happen with Britain, if they decide to leave, don‘t tell me you didn‘t know what you will get. And if you thought that the EU will spread her legs and you get all the sweets, you even deserve to fall harder. It was well known what could happen, so stop that complaining „we didn‘t want to...“. It‘s sad, but if you decide that a gun in your household is a good idea, it is possible that your kids blow their head off... „but i didn’t knew... i didn‘t want to...“ wtf, clean that floor and live on that island without migrants, this is what you deserve. |
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Dec 14, 2018 15:05:43 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Schrödinger's Chat on Dec 14, 2018 15:05:43 GMT 1, A good quote on James o'brien this morning, which speaks to the flag waving, Britania rules the waves, they need us more than we need them committee. A useful reality check if you just swap America for UK.
"Every day we're told that we live in the greatest country on earth. And it's always stated as an undeniable fact: Leos are born between July 23 and August 22, fitted queen-size sheets measure sixty by eighty inches, and America is the greatest country on earth. Having grown up with this in our ears, it's startling to realize that other countries have nationalistic slogans of their own, none of which are 'We're number two!"
A good quote on James o'brien this morning, which speaks to the flag waving, Britania rules the waves, they need us more than we need them committee. A useful reality check if you just swap America for UK.
"Every day we're told that we live in the greatest country on earth. And it's always stated as an undeniable fact: Leos are born between July 23 and August 22, fitted queen-size sheets measure sixty by eighty inches, and America is the greatest country on earth. Having grown up with this in our ears, it's startling to realize that other countries have nationalistic slogans of their own, none of which are 'We're number two!"
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Dec 14, 2018 18:10:08 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Dec 14, 2018 18:10:08 GMT 1, Hopefully (although I know you will disagree) we are moving closer to a "people's vote" scenario, where we get another chance to decide now we know the reality of what is on offer. No idea how it would work in practice, or what the question/options on the hypothetical referendum might be, but continuing with this farce just because "it's what we voted for" (it isn't) is clearly not in our best interest. „Another chance to decide now...“ Wtf is wrong with you guys? It‘s your task to inform yourself, before you vote. Can‘t believe that you living in a bubble on that island. It was well known what could happen with Britain, if they decide to leave, don‘t tell me you didn‘t know what you will get. And if you thought that the EU will spread her legs and you get all the sweets, you even deserve to fall harder. It was well known what could happen, so stop that complaining „we didn‘t want to...“. It‘s sad, but if you decide that a gun in your household is a good idea, it is possible that your kids blow their head off... „but i didn’t knew... i didn‘t want to...“ wtf, clean that floor and live on that island without migrants, this is what you deserve.
Your xenophobic views are quite something.
Hopefully (although I know you will disagree) we are moving closer to a "people's vote" scenario, where we get another chance to decide now we know the reality of what is on offer. No idea how it would work in practice, or what the question/options on the hypothetical referendum might be, but continuing with this farce just because "it's what we voted for" (it isn't) is clearly not in our best interest. „Another chance to decide now...“ Wtf is wrong with you guys? It‘s your task to inform yourself, before you vote. Can‘t believe that you living in a bubble on that island. It was well known what could happen with Britain, if they decide to leave, don‘t tell me you didn‘t know what you will get. And if you thought that the EU will spread her legs and you get all the sweets, you even deserve to fall harder. It was well known what could happen, so stop that complaining „we didn‘t want to...“. It‘s sad, but if you decide that a gun in your household is a good idea, it is possible that your kids blow their head off... „but i didn’t knew... i didn‘t want to...“ wtf, clean that floor and live on that island without migrants, this is what you deserve. Your xenophobic views are quite something. |
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Dec 14, 2018 19:26:43 GMT 1
Brexit, by mojo on Dec 14, 2018 19:26:43 GMT 1, Hopefully (although I know you will disagree) we are moving closer to a "people's vote" scenario, where we get another chance to decide now we know the reality of what is on offer. No idea how it would work in practice, or what the question/options on the hypothetical referendum might be, but continuing with this farce just because "it's what we voted for" (it isn't) is clearly not in our best interest. „Another chance to decide now...“ Wtf is wrong with you guys? It‘s your task to inform yourself, before you vote. Can‘t believe that you living in a bubble on that island. It was well known what could happen with Britain, if they decide to leave, don‘t tell me you didn‘t know what you will get. And if you thought that the EU will spread her legs and you get all the sweets, you even deserve to fall harder. It was well known what could happen, so stop that complaining „we didn‘t want to...“. It‘s sad, but if you decide that a gun in your household is a good idea, it is possible that your kids blow their head off... „but i didn’t knew... i didn‘t want to...“ wtf, clean that floor and live on that island without migrants, this is what you deserve.
Hopefully (although I know you will disagree) we are moving closer to a "people's vote" scenario, where we get another chance to decide now we know the reality of what is on offer. No idea how it would work in practice, or what the question/options on the hypothetical referendum might be, but continuing with this farce just because "it's what we voted for" (it isn't) is clearly not in our best interest. „Another chance to decide now...“ Wtf is wrong with you guys? It‘s your task to inform yourself, before you vote. Can‘t believe that you living in a bubble on that island. It was well known what could happen with Britain, if they decide to leave, don‘t tell me you didn‘t know what you will get. And if you thought that the EU will spread her legs and you get all the sweets, you even deserve to fall harder. It was well known what could happen, so stop that complaining „we didn‘t want to...“. It‘s sad, but if you decide that a gun in your household is a good idea, it is possible that your kids blow their head off... „but i didn’t knew... i didn‘t want to...“ wtf, clean that floor and live on that island without migrants, this is what you deserve. Well I know one thing for sure the sky won't fall down, chicken licken will be eaten by a fox and we're all gonna die......eventually. Merry Christmas |
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Dec 14, 2018 20:24:05 GMT 1
Brexit, by love on Dec 14, 2018 20:24:05 GMT 1, „Another chance to decide now...“ Wtf is wrong with you guys? It‘s your task to inform yourself, before you vote. Can‘t believe that you living in a bubble on that island. It was well known what could happen with Britain, if they decide to leave, don‘t tell me you didn‘t know what you will get. And if you thought that the EU will spread her legs and you get all the sweets, you even deserve to fall harder. It was well known what could happen, so stop that complaining „we didn‘t want to...“. It‘s sad, but if you decide that a gun in your household is a good idea, it is possible that your kids blow their head off... „but i didn’t knew... i didn‘t want to...“ wtf, clean that floor and live on that island without migrants, this is what you deserve. Your xenophobic views are quite something.
„Another chance to decide now...“ Wtf is wrong with you guys? It‘s your task to inform yourself, before you vote. Can‘t believe that you living in a bubble on that island. It was well known what could happen with Britain, if they decide to leave, don‘t tell me you didn‘t know what you will get. And if you thought that the EU will spread her legs and you get all the sweets, you even deserve to fall harder. It was well known what could happen, so stop that complaining „we didn‘t want to...“. It‘s sad, but if you decide that a gun in your household is a good idea, it is possible that your kids blow their head off... „but i didn’t knew... i didn‘t want to...“ wtf, clean that floor and live on that island without migrants, this is what you deserve. Your xenophobic views are quite something. You call me xenophobic, you can‘t be more wrong. Bug hey, maybe you didn‘t know what you‘ll get, feel free to vote again. |
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Dec 14, 2018 20:57:13 GMT 1
Brexit, by Sweet Fanny Adams on Dec 14, 2018 20:57:13 GMT 1, Looks like the Tory scum wont be getting rid of the johnny foreigners - cries of Enoch Powell
Looks like the Tory scum wont be getting rid of the johnny foreigners - cries of Enoch Powell
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Dec 17, 2018 19:37:47 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Schrödinger's Chat on Dec 17, 2018 19:37:47 GMT 1, Just when we thought there was no magic money tree Mrs May produces another 2 billion to look at no deal brexit.
Imagine what life would be like if there was a magic money tree!
Just when we thought there was no magic money tree Mrs May produces another 2 billion to look at no deal brexit.
Imagine what life would be like if there was a magic money tree!
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Dec 18, 2018 11:15:07 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 11:15:07 GMT 1, Just when we thought there was no magic money tree Mrs May produces another 2 billion to look at no deal brexit. Imagine what life would be like if there was a magic money tree!
Just when we thought there was no magic money tree Mrs May produces another 2 billion to look at no deal brexit. Imagine what life would be like if there was a magic money tree! Would you prefer that she does not look at preparations for a no deal scenario? Would you prefer us to crash out at the end of March next year and then decide what to do after that? |
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Dec 18, 2018 11:34:18 GMT 1
Brexit, by Fake on Dec 18, 2018 11:34:18 GMT 1, A good quote on James o'brien this morning, which speaks to the flag waving, Britania rules the waves, they need us more than we need them committee. A useful reality check if you just swap America for UK. "Every day we're told that we live in the greatest country on earth. And it's always stated as an undeniable fact: Leos are born between July 23 and August 22, fitted queen-size sheets measure sixty by eighty inches, and America is the greatest country on earth. Having grown up with this in our ears, it's startling to realize that other countries have nationalistic slogans of their own, none of which are 'We're number two!"
A good quote on James o'brien this morning, which speaks to the flag waving, Britania rules the waves, they need us more than we need them committee. A useful reality check if you just swap America for UK. "Every day we're told that we live in the greatest country on earth. And it's always stated as an undeniable fact: Leos are born between July 23 and August 22, fitted queen-size sheets measure sixty by eighty inches, and America is the greatest country on earth. Having grown up with this in our ears, it's startling to realize that other countries have nationalistic slogans of their own, none of which are 'We're number two!" We have this! We say we are 2nd! |
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Dec 18, 2018 11:58:40 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Dec 18, 2018 11:58:40 GMT 1, Just when we thought there was no magic money tree Mrs May produces another 2 billion to look at no deal brexit. Imagine what life would be like if there was a magic money tree! Would you prefer that she does not look at preparations for a no deal scenario? Would you prefer us to crash out at the end of March next year and then decide what to do after that?
When preparations for a No Deal Scenario include the Minister of Health (as admitting on Newsnight last night) becoming the biggest purchaser of fridges on the planet, so that medicines can be stockpiled 'safely', I would absolutely prefer her to stop the preparations and do the responsible thing. Cancel Brexit.
Just when we thought there was no magic money tree Mrs May produces another 2 billion to look at no deal brexit. Imagine what life would be like if there was a magic money tree! Would you prefer that she does not look at preparations for a no deal scenario? Would you prefer us to crash out at the end of March next year and then decide what to do after that? When preparations for a No Deal Scenario include the Minister of Health (as admitting on Newsnight last night) becoming the biggest purchaser of fridges on the planet, so that medicines can be stockpiled 'safely', I would absolutely prefer her to stop the preparations and do the responsible thing. Cancel Brexit. |
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