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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Oct 7, 2021 17:01:34 GMT 1, So I was right then when I said don't believe the Daily Mail. ย An MP is NOT calling for a 100,000 pay packet. ย They are simply reviewing the way pay increases are calculated. ย
What he said....
โI take the view that being an MP is the greatest honour you could have, but a general practitioner in politics ought to be paid roughly the same as a general practitioner in medicine,โ he told the New Statesman.
โDoctors are paid far too little nowadays. But if they would get roughly ยฃ100,000 a year, the equivalent for an MP to get the same standard of living would be ยฃ110-ยฃ115,000 a year'
He voted to cut universal credit.
So I was right then when I said don't believe the Daily Mail. ย An MP is NOT calling for a 100,000 pay packet. ย They are simply reviewing the way pay increases are calculated. ย What he said.... โI take the view that being an MP is the greatest honour you could have, but a general practitioner in politics ought to be paid roughly the same as a general practitioner in medicine,โ he told the New Statesman. โDoctors are paid far too little nowadays. But if they would get roughly ยฃ100,000 a year, the equivalent for an MP to get the same standard of living would be ยฃ110-ยฃ115,000 a year' He voted to cut universal credit.
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Brexit, by love on Oct 22, 2022 11:54:28 GMT 1, Hey GB, I canโt believe what I seeโฆ what the fuck Are you doing on that beautiful island. Best Regards Europe
Hey GB, I canโt believe what I seeโฆ what the fuck Are you doing on that beautiful island. Best Regards Europe
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Brexit, by Londown 01 on Oct 22, 2022 12:12:58 GMT 1, When I arrived at the post office yesterday [EU] to collected a letter from the UK and to send a small package to the UK, I was alone. When I left, there was a massive queue behind me. F***ing brexit.
When I arrived at the post office yesterday [EU] to collected a letter from the UK and to send a small package to the UK, I was alone. When I left, there was a massive queue behind me. F***ing brexit.
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Brexit, by Blue on Oct 22, 2022 12:24:11 GMT 1, Hey GB, I canโt believe what I seeโฆ what the fuck Are you doing on that beautiful island. Best Regards Europe Not us (the normal humans) doing it, its the mental Tory party again... yeah thats right... that lot who ripped this country and its political stability into bits to quiet its batsh*t crazy fringe backbenchers...
They have single handedly fu*ked this country from arse to elbow over the 12 years they have been in power and it just gets worse by the month...
Goodbye EU Goodbye functioning NHS Goodbye quality education Goodbye functioning public services (not one is working as it should) Goodbye strong and stable financial reputation / the pound Goodbye Scotland
Hello austerity again...
Hey GB, I canโt believe what I seeโฆ what the fuck Are you doing on that beautiful island. Best Regards Europe Not us (the normal humans) doing it, its the mental Tory party again... yeah thats right... that lot who ripped this country and its political stability into bits to quiet its batsh*t crazy fringe backbenchers... They have single handedly fu*ked this country from arse to elbow over the 12 years they have been in power and it just gets worse by the month... Goodbye EU Goodbye functioning NHS Goodbye quality education Goodbye functioning public services (not one is working as it should) Goodbye strong and stable financial reputation / the pound Goodbye Scotland Hello austerity again...
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Brexit, by startimeash on Oct 22, 2022 20:14:07 GMT 1, Hey GB, I canโt believe what I seeโฆ what the fuck Are you doing on that beautiful island. Best Regards Europe Not us (the normal humans) doing it, its the mental Tory party again... yeah thats right... that lot who ripped this country and its political stability into bits to quiet its batsh*t crazy fringe backbenchers... They have single handedly fu*ked this country from arse to elbow over the 12 years they have been in power and it just gets worse by the month... Goodbye EU Goodbye functioning NHS Goodbye quality education Goodbye functioning public services (not one is working as it should) Goodbye strong and stable financial reputation / the pound Goodbye Scotland Hello austerity again... On the other hand, my new passport is kind of blue, so every cloud and all thatโฆ
Hey GB, I canโt believe what I seeโฆ what the fuck Are you doing on that beautiful island. Best Regards Europe Not us (the normal humans) doing it, its the mental Tory party again... yeah thats right... that lot who ripped this country and its political stability into bits to quiet its batsh*t crazy fringe backbenchers... They have single handedly fu*ked this country from arse to elbow over the 12 years they have been in power and it just gets worse by the month... Goodbye EU Goodbye functioning NHS Goodbye quality education Goodbye functioning public services (not one is working as it should) Goodbye strong and stable financial reputation / the pound Goodbye Scotland Hello austerity again... On the other hand, my new passport is kind of blue, so every cloud and all thatโฆ
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Brexit, by Alchemy Art on Oct 23, 2022 9:03:07 GMT 1, Hey GB, I canโt believe what I seeโฆ what the fuck Are you doing on that beautiful island. Best Regards Europe Not us (the normal humans) doing it, its the mental Tory party again... yeah thats right... that lot who ripped this country and its political stability into bits to quiet its batsh*t crazy fringe backbenchers... They have single handedly fu*ked this country from arse to elbow over the 12 years they have been in power and it just gets worse by the month... Goodbye EU Goodbye functioning NHS Goodbye quality education Goodbye functioning public services (not one is working as it should) Goodbye strong and stable financial reputation / the pound Goodbye Scotland Hello austerity again... How can you say "it's not us"? Brexit was voted by the British people, for many ugly reasons every brexiter is now denying. Have you heard of collective responsibility? This was the mistake of a generation, the best example of self-sabotage of a country I can think of in modern history. Well, there's Russia too now though. You were told there would be consequences, but in true British arrogance you thought you were better than Europe. You made your bed, now sleep in it. The funniest thing is the British media no longer pronounce the B word, everything is because of the war in Ukraine if you listen to them, the word Brexit is taboo on ITV, BBC and all mainstream media in the country. No one wants to own up to their mistake. .
Hey GB, I canโt believe what I seeโฆ what the fuck Are you doing on that beautiful island. Best Regards Europe Not us (the normal humans) doing it, its the mental Tory party again... yeah thats right... that lot who ripped this country and its political stability into bits to quiet its batsh*t crazy fringe backbenchers... They have single handedly fu*ked this country from arse to elbow over the 12 years they have been in power and it just gets worse by the month... Goodbye EU Goodbye functioning NHS Goodbye quality education Goodbye functioning public services (not one is working as it should) Goodbye strong and stable financial reputation / the pound Goodbye Scotland Hello austerity again... How can you say "it's not us"? Brexit was voted by the British people, for many ugly reasons every brexiter is now denying. Have you heard of collective responsibility? This was the mistake of a generation, the best example of self-sabotage of a country I can think of in modern history. Well, there's Russia too now though. You were told there would be consequences, but in true British arrogance you thought you were better than Europe. You made your bed, now sleep in it. The funniest thing is the British media no longer pronounce the B word, everything is because of the war in Ukraine if you listen to them, the word Brexit is taboo on ITV, BBC and all mainstream media in the country. No one wants to own up to their mistake. .
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Oct 23, 2022 9:16:49 GMT 1
Brexit, by startimeash on Oct 23, 2022 9:16:49 GMT 1, Not us (the normal humans) doing it, its the mental Tory party again... yeah thats right... that lot who ripped this country and its political stability into bits to quiet its batsh*t crazy fringe backbenchers... They have single handedly fu*ked this country from arse to elbow over the 12 years they have been in power and it just gets worse by the month... Goodbye EU Goodbye functioning NHS Goodbye quality education Goodbye functioning public services (not one is working as it should) Goodbye strong and stable financial reputation / the pound Goodbye Scotland Hello austerity again... How can you say "it's not us"? Brexit was voted by the British people, for many ugly reasons every brexiter is now denying. Have you heard of collective responsibility? This was the mistake of a generation, the best example of self-sabotage of a country I can think of in modern history. Well, there's Russia too now though. You were told there would be consequences, but in true British arrogance you thought you were better than Europe. You made your bed, now sleep in it. The funniest thing is the British media no longer pronounce the B word, everything is because of the war in Ukraine if you listen to them, the word Brexit is taboo on ITV, BBC and all mainstream media in the country. No one wants to own up to their mistake. . 48% of us knew it was bollocks from the start and actively campaigned against it, knowing the damage that it would do. This is absolutely on every Brexit backer, but donโt forget the many millions of us who knew it was ridiculousโฆ
Not us (the normal humans) doing it, its the mental Tory party again... yeah thats right... that lot who ripped this country and its political stability into bits to quiet its batsh*t crazy fringe backbenchers... They have single handedly fu*ked this country from arse to elbow over the 12 years they have been in power and it just gets worse by the month... Goodbye EU Goodbye functioning NHS Goodbye quality education Goodbye functioning public services (not one is working as it should) Goodbye strong and stable financial reputation / the pound Goodbye Scotland Hello austerity again... How can you say "it's not us"? Brexit was voted by the British people, for many ugly reasons every brexiter is now denying. Have you heard of collective responsibility? This was the mistake of a generation, the best example of self-sabotage of a country I can think of in modern history. Well, there's Russia too now though. You were told there would be consequences, but in true British arrogance you thought you were better than Europe. You made your bed, now sleep in it. The funniest thing is the British media no longer pronounce the B word, everything is because of the war in Ukraine if you listen to them, the word Brexit is taboo on ITV, BBC and all mainstream media in the country. No one wants to own up to their mistake. . 48% of us knew it was bollocks from the start and actively campaigned against it, knowing the damage that it would do. This is absolutely on every Brexit backer, but donโt forget the many millions of us who knew it was ridiculousโฆ
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Oct 23, 2022 9:21:37 GMT 1
Brexit, by Pete the Post on Oct 23, 2022 9:21:37 GMT 1, Not us (the normal humans) doing it, its the mental Tory party again... yeah thats right... that lot who ripped this country and its political stability into bits to quiet its batsh*t crazy fringe backbenchers... They have single handedly fu*ked this country from arse to elbow over the 12 years they have been in power and it just gets worse by the month... Goodbye EU Goodbye functioning NHS Goodbye quality education Goodbye functioning public services (not one is working as it should) Goodbye strong and stable financial reputation / the pound Goodbye Scotland Hello austerity again... How can you say "it's not us"? Brexit was voted by the British people, for many ugly reasons every brexiter is now denying. Have you heard of collective responsibility? This was the mistake of a generation, the best example of self-sabotage of a country I can think of in modern history. Well, there's Russia too now though. You were told there would be consequences, but in true British arrogance you thought you were better than Europe. You made your bed, now sleep in it. The funniest thing is the British media no longer pronounce the B word, everything is because of the war in Ukraine if you listen to them, the word Brexit is taboo on ITV, BBC and all mainstream media in the country. No one wants to own up to their mistake. . While i agree with almost all you say, 2 things
One, we know what collective responsibility is, the tories claim they are bound by it constantly. Its bullshit, used to stop climbdowns, detractors and claim unity where there is no unity. Its a tool used to claim teamwork, until someone needs to be blamed for everything.
Two, The media have started to reintroduce the B word a little, it suits their agenda now as the tories fall apart in what looks a lot like total collapse.
We are pretty f&ยฃked though.
Not us (the normal humans) doing it, its the mental Tory party again... yeah thats right... that lot who ripped this country and its political stability into bits to quiet its batsh*t crazy fringe backbenchers... They have single handedly fu*ked this country from arse to elbow over the 12 years they have been in power and it just gets worse by the month... Goodbye EU Goodbye functioning NHS Goodbye quality education Goodbye functioning public services (not one is working as it should) Goodbye strong and stable financial reputation / the pound Goodbye Scotland Hello austerity again... How can you say "it's not us"? Brexit was voted by the British people, for many ugly reasons every brexiter is now denying. Have you heard of collective responsibility? This was the mistake of a generation, the best example of self-sabotage of a country I can think of in modern history. Well, there's Russia too now though. You were told there would be consequences, but in true British arrogance you thought you were better than Europe. You made your bed, now sleep in it. The funniest thing is the British media no longer pronounce the B word, everything is because of the war in Ukraine if you listen to them, the word Brexit is taboo on ITV, BBC and all mainstream media in the country. No one wants to own up to their mistake. . While i agree with almost all you say, 2 things One, we know what collective responsibility is, the tories claim they are bound by it constantly. Its bullshit, used to stop climbdowns, detractors and claim unity where there is no unity. Its a tool used to claim teamwork, until someone needs to be blamed for everything. Two, The media have started to reintroduce the B word a little, it suits their agenda now as the tories fall apart in what looks a lot like total collapse. We are pretty f&ยฃked though.
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Oct 23, 2022 11:00:42 GMT 1
Brexit, by Blue on Oct 23, 2022 11:00:42 GMT 1,
You were told there would be consequences, but in true British arrogance you thought you were better than Europe. You made your bed, now sleep in it. The funniest thing is the British media no longer pronounce the B word, everything is because of the war in Ukraine if you listen to them, the word Brexit is taboo on ITV, BBC and all mainstream media in the country. No one wants to own up to their mistake. . My point saying 'its not us (normal humans)' was in response to the initial question of - what the hell is going on over there in the UK NOW ... which it is 100,000% the Tory's own doing. Unless you pay to be a member of the party (150,000 of the population...) you dont get a say in any of it...
I also feel you might be over simplifying the dynamics of the situation in the UK when it comes to Brexit and tarring the entire country with this utterly idiotic decision.
The Brexit ref. was a massive gamble by Cameron in the aim to steady his back benches and his party. A gamble with massively insignificant reward versus huge unknown risk...which all went terribly wrong. AGAIN, like todays madness, the gamble was taken 99% in the interest of the Tory party... NOT the country.
The Leave side had a much better campaign which, as all strong and shitty campaigns do, focussed on grievance (inequality/poverty/unemployment), fear/othering (immigration) and out and out lies (350mil to the NHS etc)...
Now all the empty promises and lies are becoming clear to the 52% who voted Leave... I would bet a sacred piece from my print collection that Remain would win with an easy 10%+ if we were to do that stupid vote again... It really wasn't much to do with British arrogance ... more deception, misplaced-blame and savvy targeted campaigning from a tiny gaggle of utter sh*ts.
You were told there would be consequences, but in true British arrogance you thought you were better than Europe. You made your bed, now sleep in it. The funniest thing is the British media no longer pronounce the B word, everything is because of the war in Ukraine if you listen to them, the word Brexit is taboo on ITV, BBC and all mainstream media in the country. No one wants to own up to their mistake. . My point saying 'its not us (normal humans)' was in response to the initial question of - what the hell is going on over there in the UK NOW ... which it is 100,000% the Tory's own doing. Unless you pay to be a member of the party (150,000 of the population...) you dont get a say in any of it... I also feel you might be over simplifying the dynamics of the situation in the UK when it comes to Brexit and tarring the entire country with this utterly idiotic decision. The Brexit ref. was a massive gamble by Cameron in the aim to steady his back benches and his party. A gamble with massively insignificant reward versus huge unknown risk...which all went terribly wrong. AGAIN, like todays madness, the gamble was taken 99% in the interest of the Tory party... NOT the country. The Leave side had a much better campaign which, as all strong and shitty campaigns do, focussed on grievance (inequality/poverty/unemployment), fear/othering (immigration) and out and out lies (350mil to the NHS etc)... Now all the empty promises and lies are becoming clear to the 52% who voted Leave... I would bet a sacred piece from my print collection that Remain would win with an easy 10%+ if we were to do that stupid vote again... It really wasn't much to do with British arrogance ... more deception, misplaced-blame and savvy targeted campaigning from a tiny gaggle of utter sh*ts.
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Oct 23, 2022 12:51:47 GMT 1
Brexit, by Acme Thunderer on Oct 23, 2022 12:51:47 GMT 1, Nothing will change the Brexit result so we need to move on (sorry). I voted remain as I believed in the benefits of a free market, the free movement of people (and so I wouldnโt pay customs fees when buying art abroad), but I accept the decision as I believe in democracy. Moaning about it, will not make it any better Iโm afraid.
In the same way that when people voted in the General Election in Dec 2019 - we have to accept that the party stays in power for 5 years (unless the party in power chooses to have an election earlier). Opposition parties regularly try and call for an election during mid term and just because a Prime Minister changes mid term, it doesnโt mean there has to be an election as people are not voting for a Prime Minister, but their local MP. If their local MP changes then there is a by-election and we all have to right to vote again then.
I do find it confusing when people blame one political party for 52% of UK citizens voting leave in the referendum, when it was also MPs from the same party encouraging people to remain (and other parties mainly sat on the fence). Yes, Cameron, gave people the opportunity to vote in a referendum, but when the Conservatives MPs were split between remain and leave - it was ultimately the public who chose in the end. People would have still moaned about the result if we remained.
Letโs just hope that Scotland donโt have another independence vote. If you think the problems with the borders in Ireland are a problem, wait until Krankie Sturgeon tries to get back into the EU.
Iโve worked on every election for the last 15 years (not for any political party I might add) and it is incredible how little some people know what they are voting for, but at least everyone has a chance to vote and like it or loath it, that is democracy.
Nothing will change the Brexit result so we need to move on (sorry). I voted remain as I believed in the benefits of a free market, the free movement of people (and so I wouldnโt pay customs fees when buying art abroad), but I accept the decision as I believe in democracy. Moaning about it, will not make it any better Iโm afraid.
In the same way that when people voted in the General Election in Dec 2019 - we have to accept that the party stays in power for 5 years (unless the party in power chooses to have an election earlier). Opposition parties regularly try and call for an election during mid term and just because a Prime Minister changes mid term, it doesnโt mean there has to be an election as people are not voting for a Prime Minister, but their local MP. If their local MP changes then there is a by-election and we all have to right to vote again then.
I do find it confusing when people blame one political party for 52% of UK citizens voting leave in the referendum, when it was also MPs from the same party encouraging people to remain (and other parties mainly sat on the fence). Yes, Cameron, gave people the opportunity to vote in a referendum, but when the Conservatives MPs were split between remain and leave - it was ultimately the public who chose in the end. People would have still moaned about the result if we remained.
Letโs just hope that Scotland donโt have another independence vote. If you think the problems with the borders in Ireland are a problem, wait until Krankie Sturgeon tries to get back into the EU.
Iโve worked on every election for the last 15 years (not for any political party I might add) and it is incredible how little some people know what they are voting for, but at least everyone has a chance to vote and like it or loath it, that is democracy.
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Oct 23, 2022 14:29:28 GMT 1
Brexit, by Blue on Oct 23, 2022 14:29:28 GMT 1, I do blame the political party for this one for reasons above. But I do accept it and personally have moved on.
The original statement was more a reflection on the current situation then getting dragged into debating brexitโฆ but alas I fell into that trap yet again.
I really hope Scotland stay, but I wouldnโt really blame them if they leave with the way things are (I feel it would be rather short sighted if they do leave tho)
And I agree with your point re:democracy whole heartedly and would much prefer to have a say, loose and be pissed off, than have no say at all.
I do blame the political party for this one for reasons above. But I do accept it and personally have moved on.
The original statement was more a reflection on the current situation then getting dragged into debating brexitโฆ but alas I fell into that trap yet again.
I really hope Scotland stay, but I wouldnโt really blame them if they leave with the way things are (I feel it would be rather short sighted if they do leave tho)
And I agree with your point re:democracy whole heartedly and would much prefer to have a say, loose and be pissed off, than have no say at all.
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Oct 23, 2022 15:13:55 GMT 1
Brexit, by Pete the Post on Oct 23, 2022 15:13:55 GMT 1, Nothing will change the Brexit result so we need to move on (sorry). I voted remain as I believed in the benefits of a free market, the free movement of people (and so I wouldnโt pay customs fees when buying art abroad), but I accept the decision as I believe in democracy. Moaning about it, will not make it any better Iโm afraid. In the same way that when people voted in the General Election in Dec 2019 - we have to accept that the party stays in power for 5 years (unless the party in power chooses to have an election earlier). Opposition parties regularly try and call for an election during mid term and just because a Prime Minister changes mid term, it doesnโt mean there has to be an election as people are not voting for a Prime Minister, but their local MP. If their local MP changes then there is a by-election and we all have to right to vote again then. I do find it confusing when people blame one political party for 52% of UK citizens voting leave in the referendum, when it was also MPs from the same party encouraging people to remain (and other parties mainly sat on the fence). Yes, Cameron, gave people the opportunity to vote in a referendum, but when the Conservatives MPs were split between remain and leave - it was ultimately the public who chose in the end. People would have still moaned about the result if we remained. Letโs just hope that Scotland donโt have another independence vote. If you think the problems with the borders in Ireland are a problem, wait until Krankie Sturgeon tries to get back into the EU. Iโve worked on every election for the last 15 years (not for any political party I might add) and it is incredible how little some people know what they are voting for, but at least everyone has a chance to vote and like it or loath it, that is democracy. If those first two paragraphs held any weight, we would A, still be in the EU, having accepted the decision to join. and B, still be under the leadership of Bojo the clown (by which i mean this week, not after he takes back over next week). As he was the leader they chose to stand under. While i understand the political processes, even the party decided to make change when they didnt like their own rules lumbering them with said clown fool. (mass resignations after he won conf vote). and they were ready to do the same to truss, no years grace, they were ready change the rules if she didnt accept being pushed. (my point here isnt that we have the same ability. But that maybe we should have it, as they obviously do.)
Good luck to Scotland, i think they will flourish. The problems will be ours not theirs. And the problem they hate the most, our choices of government and the way they get treated. Hard to blame them for not being keen.
What do you do in the elections?
Nothing will change the Brexit result so we need to move on (sorry). I voted remain as I believed in the benefits of a free market, the free movement of people (and so I wouldnโt pay customs fees when buying art abroad), but I accept the decision as I believe in democracy. Moaning about it, will not make it any better Iโm afraid. In the same way that when people voted in the General Election in Dec 2019 - we have to accept that the party stays in power for 5 years (unless the party in power chooses to have an election earlier). Opposition parties regularly try and call for an election during mid term and just because a Prime Minister changes mid term, it doesnโt mean there has to be an election as people are not voting for a Prime Minister, but their local MP. If their local MP changes then there is a by-election and we all have to right to vote again then. I do find it confusing when people blame one political party for 52% of UK citizens voting leave in the referendum, when it was also MPs from the same party encouraging people to remain (and other parties mainly sat on the fence). Yes, Cameron, gave people the opportunity to vote in a referendum, but when the Conservatives MPs were split between remain and leave - it was ultimately the public who chose in the end. People would have still moaned about the result if we remained. Letโs just hope that Scotland donโt have another independence vote. If you think the problems with the borders in Ireland are a problem, wait until Krankie Sturgeon tries to get back into the EU. Iโve worked on every election for the last 15 years (not for any political party I might add) and it is incredible how little some people know what they are voting for, but at least everyone has a chance to vote and like it or loath it, that is democracy. If those first two paragraphs held any weight, we would A, still be in the EU, having accepted the decision to join. and B, still be under the leadership of Bojo the clown (by which i mean this week, not after he takes back over next week). As he was the leader they chose to stand under. While i understand the political processes, even the party decided to make change when they didnt like their own rules lumbering them with said clown fool. (mass resignations after he won conf vote). and they were ready to do the same to truss, no years grace, they were ready change the rules if she didnt accept being pushed. (my point here isnt that we have the same ability. But that maybe we should have it, as they obviously do.) Good luck to Scotland, i think they will flourish. The problems will be ours not theirs. And the problem they hate the most, our choices of government and the way they get treated. Hard to blame them for not being keen. What do you do in the elections?
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Oct 23, 2022 15:32:57 GMT 1
Brexit, by Acme Thunderer on Oct 23, 2022 15:32:57 GMT 1, If those first two paragraphs held any weight, we would A, still be in the EU, having accepted the decision to join. and B, still be under the leadership of Bojo the clown (by which i mean this week, not after he takes back over next week). As he was the leader they chose to stand under. While i understand the political processes, even the party decided to make change when they didnt like their own rules lumbering them with said clown fool. (mass resignations after he won conf vote). and they were ready to do the same to truss, no years grace, they were ready change the rules if she didnt accept being pushed. (my point here isnt that we have the same ability. But that maybe we should have it, as they obviously do.) Good luck to Scotland, i think they will flourish. The problems will be ours not theirs. And the problem they hate the most, our choices of government and the way they get treated. Hard to blame them for not being keen. What do you do in the elections? Iโve managed polling stations as a Presiding Officer for General Elections, EU referendums, council, parish, mayoral and police & crime commissioner elections plus planning referendums. On the front line of an election you definitely see and hear it all when you have to deal with voters.
If those first two paragraphs held any weight, we would A, still be in the EU, having accepted the decision to join. and B, still be under the leadership of Bojo the clown (by which i mean this week, not after he takes back over next week). As he was the leader they chose to stand under. While i understand the political processes, even the party decided to make change when they didnt like their own rules lumbering them with said clown fool. (mass resignations after he won conf vote). and they were ready to do the same to truss, no years grace, they were ready change the rules if she didnt accept being pushed. (my point here isnt that we have the same ability. But that maybe we should have it, as they obviously do.) Good luck to Scotland, i think they will flourish. The problems will be ours not theirs. And the problem they hate the most, our choices of government and the way they get treated. Hard to blame them for not being keen. What do you do in the elections? Iโve managed polling stations as a Presiding Officer for General Elections, EU referendums, council, parish, mayoral and police & crime commissioner elections plus planning referendums. On the front line of an election you definitely see and hear it all when you have to deal with voters.
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Oct 23, 2022 19:55:07 GMT 1
Brexit, by startimeash on Oct 23, 2022 19:55:07 GMT 1, If those first two paragraphs held any weight, we would A, still be in the EU, having accepted the decision to join. and B, still be under the leadership of Bojo the clown (by which i mean this week, not after he takes back over next week). As he was the leader they chose to stand under. While i understand the political processes, even the party decided to make change when they didnt like their own rules lumbering them with said clown fool. (mass resignations after he won conf vote). and they were ready to do the same to truss, no years grace, they were ready change the rules if she didnt accept being pushed. (my point here isnt that we have the same ability. But that maybe we should have it, as they obviously do.) Good luck to Scotland, i think they will flourish. The problems will be ours not theirs. And the problem they hate the most, our choices of government and the way they get treated. Hard to blame them for not being keen. What do you do in the elections? Iโve managed polling stations as a Presiding Officer for General Elections, EU referendums, council, parish, mayoral and police & crime commissioner elections plus planning referendums. On the front line of an election you definitely see and hear it all when you have to deal with voters. I honestly think if I had to do your job I would be praying for a dictatorship to avoid having to listen to the idiocy from both ends of the spectrum (I stood locally for the Greens back in the day, and I can categorically state that at least half of our members are morons. Well meaning morons, but morons nonetheless). Seriously though, kudos for doing the job; democracy functions at that level because of honest people making sure it does.
If those first two paragraphs held any weight, we would A, still be in the EU, having accepted the decision to join. and B, still be under the leadership of Bojo the clown (by which i mean this week, not after he takes back over next week). As he was the leader they chose to stand under. While i understand the political processes, even the party decided to make change when they didnt like their own rules lumbering them with said clown fool. (mass resignations after he won conf vote). and they were ready to do the same to truss, no years grace, they were ready change the rules if she didnt accept being pushed. (my point here isnt that we have the same ability. But that maybe we should have it, as they obviously do.) Good luck to Scotland, i think they will flourish. The problems will be ours not theirs. And the problem they hate the most, our choices of government and the way they get treated. Hard to blame them for not being keen. What do you do in the elections? Iโve managed polling stations as a Presiding Officer for General Elections, EU referendums, council, parish, mayoral and police & crime commissioner elections plus planning referendums. On the front line of an election you definitely see and hear it all when you have to deal with voters. I honestly think if I had to do your job I would be praying for a dictatorship to avoid having to listen to the idiocy from both ends of the spectrum (I stood locally for the Greens back in the day, and I can categorically state that at least half of our members are morons. Well meaning morons, but morons nonetheless). Seriously though, kudos for doing the job; democracy functions at that level because of honest people making sure it does.
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Brexit
Oct 23, 2022 19:56:56 GMT 1
Brexit, by Pete the Post on Oct 23, 2022 19:56:56 GMT 1, If those first two paragraphs held any weight, we would A, still be in the EU, having accepted the decision to join. and B, still be under the leadership of Bojo the clown (by which i mean this week, not after he takes back over next week). As he was the leader they chose to stand under. While i understand the political processes, even the party decided to make change when they didnt like their own rules lumbering them with said clown fool. (mass resignations after he won conf vote). and they were ready to do the same to truss, no years grace, they were ready change the rules if she didnt accept being pushed. (my point here isnt that we have the same ability. But that maybe we should have it, as they obviously do.) Good luck to Scotland, i think they will flourish. The problems will be ours not theirs. And the problem they hate the most, our choices of government and the way they get treated. Hard to blame them for not being keen. What do you do in the elections? Iโve managed polling stations as a Presiding Officer for General Elections, EU referendums, council, parish, mayoral and police & crime commissioner elections plus planning referendums. On the front line of an election you definitely see and hear it all when you have to deal with voters. I can well believe, seen a few interesting things just going to vote. And heard some truly insane things talked about!
If those first two paragraphs held any weight, we would A, still be in the EU, having accepted the decision to join. and B, still be under the leadership of Bojo the clown (by which i mean this week, not after he takes back over next week). As he was the leader they chose to stand under. While i understand the political processes, even the party decided to make change when they didnt like their own rules lumbering them with said clown fool. (mass resignations after he won conf vote). and they were ready to do the same to truss, no years grace, they were ready change the rules if she didnt accept being pushed. (my point here isnt that we have the same ability. But that maybe we should have it, as they obviously do.) Good luck to Scotland, i think they will flourish. The problems will be ours not theirs. And the problem they hate the most, our choices of government and the way they get treated. Hard to blame them for not being keen. What do you do in the elections? Iโve managed polling stations as a Presiding Officer for General Elections, EU referendums, council, parish, mayoral and police & crime commissioner elections plus planning referendums. On the front line of an election you definitely see and hear it all when you have to deal with voters. I can well believe, seen a few interesting things just going to vote. And heard some truly insane things talked about!
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Brexit
Oct 23, 2022 21:52:00 GMT 1
Brexit, by Pete the Post on Oct 23, 2022 21:52:00 GMT 1,
Well, its isnt going to be Boris.
Not that it will make much difference whatever way, the circus rolls on.
Well, its isnt going to be Boris. Not that it will make much difference whatever way, the circus rolls on.
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love
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Jan 31, 2023 22:01:57 GMT 1
Brexit, by love on Jan 31, 2023 22:01:57 GMT 1,
You really have to love your government.
You really have to love your government.
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Manty
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Jan 31, 2023 22:18:13 GMT 1
Brexit, by Manty on Jan 31, 2023 22:18:13 GMT 1,
You really have to love your government.
It's all a bit 1984
You really have to love your government. It's all a bit 1984
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mojo
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Jan 31, 2023 23:46:27 GMT 1
Brexit, by mojo on Jan 31, 2023 23:46:27 GMT 1,
You really have to love your government. 200+refugee children have gone missing/been abducted under her watch and all she can do is make pathetic threats to protesters. I dread to think what's happening to those missing children. WTF is going on?
You really have to love your government. 200+refugee children have gone missing/been abducted under her watch and all she can do is make pathetic threats to protesters. I dread to think what's happening to those missing children. WTF is going on?
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Brexit
Feb 27, 2023 19:13:07 GMT 1
Brexit, by Pete the Post on Feb 27, 2023 19:13:07 GMT 1, Tories claiming a "massive victory" as Ireland can if it really needs too, veto EU laws being imposed upon them.
Although, it says "only in the most extreme of circumstances". So their "massive victory" is a chocolate teapot, at best.
Let the next batch of chaos and carnage begin.
Am i wrong to bump this thread? Its monday, who cares.
Tories claiming a "massive victory" as Ireland can if it really needs too, veto EU laws being imposed upon them.
Although, it says "only in the most extreme of circumstances". So their "massive victory" is a chocolate teapot, at best.
Let the next batch of chaos and carnage begin.
Am i wrong to bump this thread? Its monday, who cares.
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