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Dec 20, 2018 17:26:54 GMT 1
Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Dec 20, 2018 17:26:54 GMT 1, Or, in other words, you don't have a counter-argument to disprove what I am saying. Instead you resort to the usual ad hominem attacks. Oldest trick in the book.
I think this just about sums up Brexitiocy. You've been presented with the facts and you've been proved wrong over and over again. Your arguments are all over the shop and you keep digging in. You've got your fingers in your ears and you're shouting 'la la la'.
You think that the referendum was binding - IT WASN'T! That is a simple legal fact. No grey areas. I've shown you the evidence and you've chosen to dismiss it because it doesn't suit your agenda - classic Brexiter.
You're worried that the Will of the People must be followed, and yet at the same time (after a lot of beating around the bush) concede that there actually is no Will of the People. (Deep down I think you still think there is though, otherwise you wouldn't have kept bleating on about it)
I've tried to keep the argument focused on the subject and yet you've curve-balled it with random stuff regarding illegitimate governments and some daft sh*t about invented positions.
I get it, you're a Leaver. You believe that is what is best for the country and presumably you've arrived at that position because of things you've seen and heard. Unfortunately, as it is evident that you don't do basic facts, so god only knows what secured your vote.
Or, in other words, you don't have a counter-argument to disprove what I am saying. Instead you resort to the usual ad hominem attacks. Oldest trick in the book. I think this just about sums up Brexitiocy. You've been presented with the facts and you've been proved wrong over and over again. Your arguments are all over the shop and you keep digging in. You've got your fingers in your ears and you're shouting 'la la la'. You think that the referendum was binding - IT WASN'T! That is a simple legal fact. No grey areas. I've shown you the evidence and you've chosen to dismiss it because it doesn't suit your agenda - classic Brexiter. You're worried that the Will of the People must be followed, and yet at the same time (after a lot of beating around the bush) concede that there actually is no Will of the People. (Deep down I think you still think there is though, otherwise you wouldn't have kept bleating on about it) I've tried to keep the argument focused on the subject and yet you've curve-balled it with random stuff regarding illegitimate governments and some daft sh*t about invented positions. I get it, you're a Leaver. You believe that is what is best for the country and presumably you've arrived at that position because of things you've seen and heard. Unfortunately, as it is evident that you don't do basic facts, so god only knows what secured your vote. |
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Dec 20, 2018 17:32:15 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 17:32:15 GMT 1, I know that. I have never said it is. If you want to contribute to this conversation then I suggest you read my posts properly before you call me ignorant. Q: do you believe that the referendum was binding? Yes or no? A. Yes - because that is the basis upon which people voted. I suggest you start acting smart if you want to be called so, otherwise accept your ignorance. Cornered dogs bark louder.
Referendum are not "legally binding" but when the UK population are told that the result of the referendum will be acted upon by the government then...er...the outcome will be acted upon. That doesn't make it illegal or going against what the law says or ignoring British laws.
I know that. I have never said it is. If you want to contribute to this conversation then I suggest you read my posts properly before you call me ignorant. Q: do you believe that the referendum was binding? Yes or no? A. Yes - because that is the basis upon which people voted. I suggest you start acting smart if you want to be called so, otherwise accept your ignorance. Cornered dogs bark louder. I feel like I am repeating myself over and over again here. So I will say it once again... Referendum are not "legally binding" but when the UK population are told that the result of the referendum will be acted upon by the government then...er...the outcome will be acted upon. That doesn't make it illegal or going against what the law says or ignoring British laws. |
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Dec 20, 2018 17:35:19 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 17:35:19 GMT 1, Or, in other words, you don't have a counter-argument to disprove what I am saying. Instead you resort to the usual ad hominem attacks. Oldest trick in the book. I think this just about sums up Brexitiocy. You've been presented with the facts and you've been proved wrong over and over again. Your arguments are all over the shop and you keep digging in. You've got your fingers in your ears and you're shouting 'la la la'. You think that the referendum was binding - IT WASN'T! That is a simple legal fact. No grey areas. I've shown you the evidence and you've chosen to dismiss it because it doesn't suit your agenda - classic Brexiter. You're worried that the Will of the People must be followed, and yet at the same time (after a lot of beating around the bush) concede that there actually is no Will of the People. (Deep down I think you still think there is though, otherwise you wouldn't have kept bleating on about it) I've tried to keep the argument focused on the subject and yet you've curve-balled it with random stuff regarding illegitimate governments and some daft sh*t about invented positions. I get it, you're a Leaver. You believe that is what is best for the country and presumably you've arrived at that position because of things you've seen and heard. Unfortunately, as it is evident that you don't do basic facts, so god only knows what secured your vote.
Or, in other words, you don't have a counter-argument to disprove what I am saying. Instead you resort to the usual ad hominem attacks. Oldest trick in the book. I think this just about sums up Brexitiocy. You've been presented with the facts and you've been proved wrong over and over again. Your arguments are all over the shop and you keep digging in. You've got your fingers in your ears and you're shouting 'la la la'. You think that the referendum was binding - IT WASN'T! That is a simple legal fact. No grey areas. I've shown you the evidence and you've chosen to dismiss it because it doesn't suit your agenda - classic Brexiter. You're worried that the Will of the People must be followed, and yet at the same time (after a lot of beating around the bush) concede that there actually is no Will of the People. (Deep down I think you still think there is though, otherwise you wouldn't have kept bleating on about it) I've tried to keep the argument focused on the subject and yet you've curve-balled it with random stuff regarding illegitimate governments and some daft sh*t about invented positions. I get it, you're a Leaver. You believe that is what is best for the country and presumably you've arrived at that position because of things you've seen and heard. Unfortunately, as it is evident that you don't do basic facts, so god only knows what secured your vote. I voted to Remain. I would still vote Remain in a second referendum. ...which kind of shows how little you understand my posts. |
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Dec 20, 2018 17:37:51 GMT 1
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Brexit, by caruso on Dec 20, 2018 17:37:51 GMT 1, Q: do you believe that the referendum was binding? Yes or no? A. Yes - because that is the basis upon which people voted. I suggest you start acting smart if you want to be called so, otherwise accept your ignorance. Cornered dogs bark louder. .. Referendum are not "legally binding" ย
Finally... You probably just googled it, but at least now you know. Glad to have contributed to your education.
Q: do you believe that the referendum was binding? Yes or no? A. Yes - because that is the basis upon which people voted. I suggest you start acting smart if you want to be called so, otherwise accept your ignorance. Cornered dogs bark louder. .. Referendum are not "legally binding" ย Finally... You probably just googled it, but at least now you know. Glad to have contributed to your education. |
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Dec 20, 2018 18:09:42 GMT 1
Brexit, by irl1 on Dec 20, 2018 18:09:42 GMT 1, 98 1/2 shopping days to go
98 1/2 shopping days to go
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Dec 20, 2018 18:12:17 GMT 1
Brexit, by wardance on Dec 20, 2018 18:12:17 GMT 1,  With article 50 starting before the end of this month, how long do you think the process will take? I feel it's gonna be much faster then the set two years. I would say less than a year, and I wonder if even within 6 month is possible. What do you think?
With article 50 starting before the end of this month, how long do you think the process will take? I feel it's gonna be much faster then the set two years. I would say less than a year, and I wonder if even within 6 month is possible. What do you think? I think you were wrong. |
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Dec 20, 2018 18:19:24 GMT 1
Brexit, by wardance on Dec 20, 2018 18:19:24 GMT 1, 6 months?! It took Canada 7 years. I keep reading in the media about countries already saying they are confident they can sign trade deals with the UK within about 8 months. I think if the EU can't sort things out within a time that suits us, then it will become a no deal situation and we walk away to sign better deals with a list of countries across the world.
I see Mr Gove is telling us that we're likely to see food prices rise. I must have missed the bus that had that painted on the side.
6 months?! It took Canada 7 years. I keep reading in the media about countries already saying they are confident they can sign trade deals with the UK within about 8 months. I think if the EU can't sort things out within a time that suits us, then it will become a no deal situation and we walk away to sign better deals with a list of countries across the world. Any idea how those trade deals are coming along Dan? I see Mr Gove is telling us that we're likely to see food prices rise. I must have missed the bus that had that painted on the side. |
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Dec 20, 2018 18:29:50 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 18:29:50 GMT 1, .. Referendum are not "legally binding" Finally... You probably just googled it, but at least now you know. Glad to have contributed to your education.
.. Referendum are not "legally binding" Finally... You probably just googled it, but at least now you know. Glad to have contributed to your education. Sorry to disappoint you but I knew that all along. But, more importantly, do you now understand the point I am making? |
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Dec 20, 2018 18:43:45 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Dec 20, 2018 18:43:45 GMT 1, I don't think there is anything stopping government going back on their word, even if they did say originally that the referendum result would be honoured, after all how can you tell when a politician is lying?.......
...... Because their lips are moving.
I don't think there is anything stopping government going back on their word, even if they did say originally that the referendum result would be honoured, after all how can you tell when a politician is lying?.......
...... Because their lips are moving.
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Dec 20, 2018 19:14:46 GMT 1
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Dec 20, 2018 19:19:11 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 19:19:11 GMT 1, 98 1/2 shopping days to go
please desist with such reminders, we are all more than aware the clock is ticking.
98 1/2 shopping days to go please desist with such reminders, we are all more than aware the clock is ticking. |
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Dec 20, 2018 19:42:31 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 19:42:31 GMT 1, 98 1/2 shopping days to go
Oh happy days!
98 1/2 shopping days to go ...before the supermarket shelves are half empty and everything costs twice as much. Oh happy days! |
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Dec 20, 2018 19:53:55 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Masong on Dec 20, 2018 19:53:55 GMT 1, 98 1/2 shopping days to go ...before the supermarket shelves are half empty and everything costs twice as much. Oh happy days!
Iโve already been stockpiling food in a warehouse so canโt wait to make a killing. Happy days indeed.
98 1/2 shopping days to go ...before the supermarket shelves are half empty and everything costs twice as much. Oh happy days! Iโve already been stockpiling food in a warehouse so canโt wait to make a killing. Happy days indeed. |
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Dec 20, 2018 20:03:16 GMT 1
Brexit, by lacklisted on Dec 20, 2018 20:03:16 GMT 1, Considering the news that thousands of soldiers will be deployed to take over things if it all goes a bit t*ts up come no deal. Is any one else a bit concerned that the current UK government would rather deploy the British army than go back to the electorate to sort out the mess that our political representatives have got us all into.
Considering the news that thousands of soldiers will be deployed to take over things if it all goes a bit t*ts up come no deal. Is any one else a bit concerned that the current UK government would rather deploy the British army than go back to the electorate to sort out the mess that our political representatives have got us all into.
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Dec 20, 2018 20:08:30 GMT 1
Brexit, by caruso on Dec 20, 2018 20:08:30 GMT 1, 3500 to be precise. The news is actually supposed to act as a deterrent for those thinking of taking advantage of the confusion.
3500 to be precise. The news is actually supposed to act as a deterrent for those thinking of taking advantage of the confusion.
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Dec 20, 2018 20:09:06 GMT 1
Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Dec 20, 2018 20:09:06 GMT 1, Considering the news that thousands of soldiers will be deployed to take over things if it all goes a bit t*ts up come no deal. Is any one else a bit concerned that the current UK government would rather deploy the British army than go back to the electorate to sort out the mess that our political representatives have got us all into.
Considering the news that thousands of soldiers will be deployed to take over things if it all goes a bit t*ts up come no deal. Is any one else a bit concerned that the current UK government would rather deploy the British army than go back to the electorate to sort out the mess that our political representatives have got us all into. Project fear from the Tories to try and prevent MPs from voting Mays deal down. |
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Dec 20, 2018 20:13:01 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Dec 20, 2018 20:13:01 GMT 1, Q: do you believe that the referendum was binding? Yes or no? A. Yes - because that is the basis upon which people voted. I suggest you start acting smart if you want to be called so, otherwise accept your ignorance. Cornered dogs bark louder. I feel like I am repeating myself over and over again here. ย So I will say it once again... Referendum are not "legally binding" but when the UK population are told that the result of the referendum will be acted upon by the government then...er...the outcome will be acted upon. ย That doesn't make it illegal or going against what the law says or ignoring British laws. ย
No one, but no one has said it was illegal, going against what the law says or ignoring British Law. The argument is about whether there was a binding requirement to trigger A50 as a result of the referendum and to see Brexit through to completion. There wasn't. There isn't. The government can unilaterally pull out at any time and there will be no legal recourse.
I obviously apologise for mistaking you for a Leaver earlier. I see now that you're actually an ardent Tory who'd rather hedge their bets on Theresa May taking us out on her awful deal, than on a Labour government who have set out the 6 tests which you yourself have acknowledged can't be met and who will have to, at some point, offer a 2nd vote. (It's party policy as agreed at conference)
So essentially you would vote remain if Labour won that opportunity for you, but not too deep down you don't actually want them to, but you're not a leaver.
Q: do you believe that the referendum was binding? Yes or no? A. Yes - because that is the basis upon which people voted. I suggest you start acting smart if you want to be called so, otherwise accept your ignorance. Cornered dogs bark louder. I feel like I am repeating myself over and over again here. ย So I will say it once again... Referendum are not "legally binding" but when the UK population are told that the result of the referendum will be acted upon by the government then...er...the outcome will be acted upon. ย That doesn't make it illegal or going against what the law says or ignoring British laws. ย No one, but no one has said it was illegal, going against what the law says or ignoring British Law. The argument is about whether there was a binding requirement to trigger A50 as a result of the referendum and to see Brexit through to completion. There wasn't. There isn't. The government can unilaterally pull out at any time and there will be no legal recourse. I obviously apologise for mistaking you for a Leaver earlier. I see now that you're actually an ardent Tory who'd rather hedge their bets on Theresa May taking us out on her awful deal, than on a Labour government who have set out the 6 tests which you yourself have acknowledged can't be met and who will have to, at some point, offer a 2nd vote. (It's party policy as agreed at conference) So essentially you would vote remain if Labour won that opportunity for you, but not too deep down you don't actually want them to, but you're not a leaver. |
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Dec 20, 2018 20:15:27 GMT 1
Brexit, by caruso on Dec 20, 2018 20:15:27 GMT 1, Considering the news that thousands of soldiers will be deployed to take over things if it all goes a bit t*ts up come no deal. Is any one else a bit concerned that the current UK government would rather deploy the British army than go back to the electorate to sort out the mess that our political representatives have got us all into. Project fear from the Tories to try and prevent MPs from voting Mays deal down.
Considering the news that thousands of soldiers will be deployed to take over things if it all goes a bit t*ts up come no deal. Is any one else a bit concerned that the current UK government would rather deploy the British army than go back to the electorate to sort out the mess that our political representatives have got us all into. Project fear from the Tories to try and prevent MPs from voting Mays deal down. Sometimes I wish there was actually a no deal Brexit, just to show the likes of you how so very wrong and arrogant you were, but then I think of all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest, the millions of lives messed up, the friends I have here, and generally speaking the well being of millions of people, and I remember you actually don't matter. So for those who will suffer if there is a no deal Brexit, those who struggle to make ends meet, put food on the table for their children and do not have the utter luxury of worrying about art and the last drop they scored or not, I genuinely hope there is some sort of deal obtained before the country plunges into chaos. Because those people matter, not you. |
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Dec 20, 2018 20:37:10 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Dec 20, 2018 20:37:10 GMT 1, Project fear from the Tories to try and prevent MPs from voting Mays deal down. Sometimes I wish there was actually a no deal Brexit, just to show the likes of you how so very wrongย and arrogant you were, but then I think of all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest, the millions of lives messed up, the friends I have here, and generally speaking the well being of millions of people, and I remember you actually don't matter. So for those who will suffer if there is a no deal Brexit, those who struggle to make ends meet, put food on the table for their children and do not have the utter luxury of worrying about art and the last drop they scored or not, I genuinely hope there is some sort of deal obtained before the country plunges into chaos. Because those people matter, not you.
Would you not, like me, prefer to remain? Rescinding A50 can be done at any time. May is choosing to keep that option off the table. I'm on the side of those fighting for it to be put firmly on.
Project fear from the Tories to try and prevent MPs from voting Mays deal down. Sometimes I wish there was actually a no deal Brexit, just to show the likes of you how so very wrongย and arrogant you were, but then I think of all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest, the millions of lives messed up, the friends I have here, and generally speaking the well being of millions of people, and I remember you actually don't matter. So for those who will suffer if there is a no deal Brexit, those who struggle to make ends meet, put food on the table for their children and do not have the utter luxury of worrying about art and the last drop they scored or not, I genuinely hope there is some sort of deal obtained before the country plunges into chaos. Because those people matter, not you. Would you not, like me, prefer to remain? Rescinding A50 can be done at any time. May is choosing to keep that option off the table. I'm on the side of those fighting for it to be put firmly on. |
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Dec 20, 2018 21:18:02 GMT 1
Brexit, by irl1 on Dec 20, 2018 21:18:02 GMT 1, 98 1/2 shopping days to go ...before the supermarket shelves are half empty and everything costs twice as much. Oh happy days!
98 1/2 shopping days to go ...before the supermarket shelves are half empty and everything costs twice as much. Oh happy days! You all need to get out on the streets now before its too late. |
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Dec 20, 2018 21:20:39 GMT 1
Brexit, by irl1 on Dec 20, 2018 21:20:39 GMT 1, 98 1/2 shopping days to go please desist with such reminders, we are all more than aware the clock is ticking.
98 1/2 shopping days to go please desist with such reminders, we are all more than aware the clock is ticking. Sorry |
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Dec 20, 2018 22:23:51 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 22:23:51 GMT 1, Killing it tonight, im off to get my sides stitched up whilst we still have the capabilty and materials in Scotland.
Killing it tonight, im off to get my sides stitched up whilst we still have the capabilty and materials in Scotland.
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Dec 20, 2018 22:39:22 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Masong on Dec 20, 2018 22:39:22 GMT 1, Killing it tonight, im off to get my sides stitched up whilst we still have the capabilty and materials in Scotland.
Your sarcasm is exceptional this evening ๐๐ผ
Killing it tonight, im off to get my sides stitched up whilst we still have the capabilty and materials in Scotland. Your sarcasm is exceptional this evening ๐๐ผ |
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Dec 20, 2018 23:21:24 GMT 1
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Brexit, by .dappy on Dec 20, 2018 23:21:24 GMT 1, please desist with such reminders, we are all more than aware the clock is ticking. Sorry
... that's not a countdown ... this is a countdown ...
please desist with such reminders, we are all more than aware the clock is ticking. Sorry ... that's not a countdown ... this is a countdown ... |
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Dec 21, 2018 10:14:24 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 10:14:24 GMT 1, Project fear from the Tories to try and prevent MPs from voting Mays deal down. Sometimes I wish there was actually a no deal Brexit, just to show the likes of you how so very wrong and arrogant you were, but then I think of all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest, the millions of lives messed up, the friends I have here, and generally speaking the well being of millions of people, and I remember you actually don't matter. So for those who will suffer if there is a no deal Brexit, those who struggle to make ends meet, put food on the table for their children and do not have the utter luxury of worrying about art and the last drop they scored or not, I genuinely hope there is some sort of deal obtained before the country plunges into chaos. Because those people matter, not you.
Project fear from the Tories to try and prevent MPs from voting Mays deal down. Sometimes I wish there was actually a no deal Brexit, just to show the likes of you how so very wrong and arrogant you were, but then I think of all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest, the millions of lives messed up, the friends I have here, and generally speaking the well being of millions of people, and I remember you actually don't matter. So for those who will suffer if there is a no deal Brexit, those who struggle to make ends meet, put food on the table for their children and do not have the utter luxury of worrying about art and the last drop they scored or not, I genuinely hope there is some sort of deal obtained before the country plunges into chaos. Because those people matter, not you. I don't disagree with you but the irony of all this is that "all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest" are the self same people who went out and voted for Brexit. It was the 'left-behind's who wanted out not the 'doing well, thank you very much'. |
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Brexit, by Chris JL on Dec 21, 2018 12:19:21 GMT 1, Fresh YouGov poll results:
64% want a second referendum to break the parliamentary deadlock.
56% would support a public vote on three options (Mayโs deal, no-deal, remain).
67% do not trust the government to deliver a good Brexit deal (up from 60% in July).
68% of people say none of the political parties speak for them (up from 61% in July)
62% think Brexit is feeding prejudice and division (up from 57%).
11% lead for Remain over Leave.
Fresh YouGov poll results:
64% want a second referendum to break the parliamentary deadlock.
56% would support a public vote on three options (Mayโs deal, no-deal, remain).
67% do not trust the government to deliver a good Brexit deal (up from 60% in July).
68% of people say none of the political parties speak for them (up from 61% in July)
62% think Brexit is feeding prejudice and division (up from 57%).
11% lead for Remain over Leave.
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Dec 22, 2018 10:04:23 GMT 1
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Brexit, by caruso on Dec 22, 2018 10:04:23 GMT 1, Sometimes I wish there was actually a no deal Brexit, just to show the likes of you how so very wrongย and arrogant you were, but then I think of all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest, the millions of lives messed up, the friends I have here, and generally speaking the well being of millions of people, and I remember you actually don't matter. So for those who will suffer if there is a no deal Brexit, those who struggle to make ends meet, put food on the table for their children and do not have the utter luxury of worrying about art and the last drop they scored or not, I genuinely hope there is some sort of deal obtained before the country plunges into chaos. Because those people matter, not you. I don't disagree with you but the irony of all this is that "all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest" are the self same people who went out and voted for Brexit. ย It was the 'left-behind's who wanted out not the 'doing well, thank you very much'.
Here's to finally agreeing on something, I think you are right. I can't remember who said something in the lines of "democracy is too dangerous because people are not smart enough to vote."
Sometimes I wish there was actually a no deal Brexit, just to show the likes of you how so very wrongย and arrogant you were, but then I think of all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest, the millions of lives messed up, the friends I have here, and generally speaking the well being of millions of people, and I remember you actually don't matter. So for those who will suffer if there is a no deal Brexit, those who struggle to make ends meet, put food on the table for their children and do not have the utter luxury of worrying about art and the last drop they scored or not, I genuinely hope there is some sort of deal obtained before the country plunges into chaos. Because those people matter, not you. I don't disagree with you but the irony of all this is that "all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest" are the self same people who went out and voted for Brexit. ย It was the 'left-behind's who wanted out not the 'doing well, thank you very much'. Here's to finally agreeing on something, I think you are right. I can't remember who said something in the lines of "democracy is too dangerous because people are not smart enough to vote." |
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Dec 22, 2018 10:09:55 GMT 1
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Brexit, by caruso on Dec 22, 2018 10:09:55 GMT 1, Sometimes I wish there was actually a no deal Brexit, just to show the likes of you how so very wrongย and arrogant you were, but then I think of all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest, the millions of lives messed up, the friends I have here, and generally speaking the well being of millions of people, and I remember you actually don't matter. So for those who will suffer if there is a no deal Brexit, those who struggle to make ends meet, put food on the table for their children and do not have the utter luxury of worrying about art and the last drop they scored or not, I genuinely hope there is some sort of deal obtained before the country plunges into chaos. Because those people matter, not you. Would you not, like me, prefer to remain? Rescinding A50 can be done at any time. May is choosing to keep that option off the table. I'm on the side of those fighting for it to be put firmly on.
My apologies, I was too quick off the mark, too often have I seen the words "project fear" associated with dodgy publications and they are normally the language of mad conspiracy theorists and other misinformed media and people. But I still think one individual - you me or anybody - do not matter in the grand scheme of things. The stakes are to high, the future too bleak to stick to that historical generational folly of a mistake.
Sometimes I wish there was actually a no deal Brexit, just to show the likes of you how so very wrongย and arrogant you were, but then I think of all the poor people who will be impacted the hardest, the millions of lives messed up, the friends I have here, and generally speaking the well being of millions of people, and I remember you actually don't matter. So for those who will suffer if there is a no deal Brexit, those who struggle to make ends meet, put food on the table for their children and do not have the utter luxury of worrying about art and the last drop they scored or not, I genuinely hope there is some sort of deal obtained before the country plunges into chaos. Because those people matter, not you. Would you not, like me, prefer to remain? Rescinding A50 can be done at any time. May is choosing to keep that option off the table. I'm on the side of those fighting for it to be put firmly on. My apologies, I was too quick off the mark, too often have I seen the words "project fear" associated with dodgy publications and they are normally the language of mad conspiracy theorists and other misinformed media and people. But I still think one individual - you me or anybody - do not matter in the grand scheme of things. The stakes are to high, the future too bleak to stick to that historical generational folly of a mistake. |
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Dec 22, 2018 10:28:35 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Dec 22, 2018 10:28:35 GMT 1, Would you not, like me, prefer to remain? Rescinding A50 can be done at any time. May is choosing to keep that option off the table. I'm on the side of those fighting for it to be put firmly on. My apologies, I was too quick off the mark, too often have I seen the words "project fear" associated with dodgy publications and they are normally the language of mad conspiracy theorists and other misinformed media and people. But I still think one individual - you me or anybody - do not matter in the grand scheme of things. The stakes are to high, the future too bleak to stick to that historical generational folly of a mistake.
No worries. Reading back I probably should've popped a question mark on the end. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, there are individuals who think they matter more than others in the scheme of things. Theresa May for one.
Would you not, like me, prefer to remain? Rescinding A50 can be done at any time. May is choosing to keep that option off the table. I'm on the side of those fighting for it to be put firmly on. My apologies, I was too quick off the mark, too often have I seen the words "project fear" associated with dodgy publications and they are normally the language of mad conspiracy theorists and other misinformed media and people. But I still think one individual - you me or anybody - do not matter in the grand scheme of things. The stakes are to high, the future too bleak to stick to that historical generational folly of a mistake. No worries. Reading back I probably should've popped a question mark on the end. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, there are individuals who think they matter more than others in the scheme of things. Theresa May for one. |
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Dec 22, 2018 13:02:56 GMT 1
Brexit, by caruso on Dec 22, 2018 13:02:56 GMT 1, My apologies, I was too quick off the mark, too often have I seen the words "project fear" associated with dodgy publications and they are normally the language of mad conspiracy theorists and other misinformed media and people. But I still think one individual - you me or anybody - do not matter in the grand scheme of things. The stakes are to high, the future too bleak to stick to that historical generational folly of a mistake. No worries. Reading back I probably should've popped a question mark on the end. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, there are individuals who think they matter more than others in the scheme of things. Theresa May for one.
My apologies, I was too quick off the mark, too often have I seen the words "project fear" associated with dodgy publications and they are normally the language of mad conspiracy theorists and other misinformed media and people. But I still think one individual - you me or anybody - do not matter in the grand scheme of things. The stakes are to high, the future too bleak to stick to that historical generational folly of a mistake. No worries. Reading back I probably should've popped a question mark on the end. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, there are individuals who think they matter more than others in the scheme of things. Theresa May for one. That's funny, I din't like her at first, but regardless of my own opinion on Brexit, I have to give her credit for trying where most would have thrown the towel. Her position is difficult, attacked from all sides. I feel sorry for her as she is only trying to solve a problem she didn't create (she was a remainer after all). |
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