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Jan 7, 2019 17:09:11 GMT 1
Brexit, by Happy Shopper on Jan 7, 2019 17:09:11 GMT 1, This is all I hear from them... but what is that they want? How could the deal be better? Anyone have an idea? As far as I can see, Brexters want all the good bits from the EU but without all the bad bits...and without paying for it. It's totally pie-in-the-sky stuff. It was doomed to failure from the start.
Well, yes. I'm sure we'd all want that.
But I'm genuinely interested to hear if anyone who supports Leave, who's anti the current May deal, can say what they'd change about her deal. What points can anyone point to and say they'd realistically want changed?
This is all I hear from them... but what is that they want? How could the deal be better? Anyone have an idea? As far as I can see, Brexters want all the good bits from the EU but without all the bad bits...and without paying for it. It's totally pie-in-the-sky stuff. It was doomed to failure from the start. Well, yes. I'm sure we'd all want that. But I'm genuinely interested to hear if anyone who supports Leave, who's anti the current May deal, can say what they'd change about her deal. What points can anyone point to and say they'd realistically want changed? |
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Jan 7, 2019 17:19:07 GMT 1
Brexit, by Matt on Jan 7, 2019 17:19:07 GMT 1, As far as I can see, Brexters want all the good bits from the EU but without all the bad bits...and without paying for it. It's totally pie-in-the-sky stuff. It was doomed to failure from the start. Well, yes. I'm sure we'd all want that. But I'm genuinely interested to hear if anyone who supports Leave, who's anti the current May deal, can say what they'd change about her deal. What points can anyone point to and say they'd realistically want changed?
I'm a remainer (at least I would be if I could vote), so not exactly what you are asking for, but I would agree it is not a good deal.
It basically puts the UK in a position to stay under EU rule until the Irish border issue is sorted in a way that the EU deems acceptable, without any mention of deadline for now.
Therefore, as was pointed out by the legal council, there is a possibility that this issue is never resolved and that the UK indefinitely stays in a position of forfeiting any say on EU regulation whilst still having to apply it.
That being said, it is not surprising this isn't a good deal, because there was never going to be a good deal
As far as I can see, Brexters want all the good bits from the EU but without all the bad bits...and without paying for it. It's totally pie-in-the-sky stuff. It was doomed to failure from the start. Well, yes. I'm sure we'd all want that. But I'm genuinely interested to hear if anyone who supports Leave, who's anti the current May deal, can say what they'd change about her deal. What points can anyone point to and say they'd realistically want changed? I'm a remainer (at least I would be if I could vote), so not exactly what you are asking for, but I would agree it is not a good deal. It basically puts the UK in a position to stay under EU rule until the Irish border issue is sorted in a way that the EU deems acceptable, without any mention of deadline for now. Therefore, as was pointed out by the legal council, there is a possibility that this issue is never resolved and that the UK indefinitely stays in a position of forfeiting any say on EU regulation whilst still having to apply it. That being said, it is not surprising this isn't a good deal, because there was never going to be a good deal |
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Jan 7, 2019 17:29:44 GMT 1
Brexit, by moron on Jan 7, 2019 17:29:44 GMT 1, "Who is a refugee?
A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her country because of persecution, war or violence. A refugee has a well-founded fear of persecution for reasons of race, religion, nationality, political opinion or membership in a particular social group. Most likely, they cannot return home or are afraid to do so. War and ethnic, tribal and religious violence are leading causes of refugees fleeing their countries."www.unrefugees.org/refugee-facts/what-is-a-refugee/ The fact is that everyone and their dog knows that most of these men of a certain age heading for europe are not fleeing violence. Where are the women and children and old people? The percentages do not add up. The same way that 25 year olds are not child migrants or refugees but accepted as children and even attend schools with children in Europe because there is an agenda of dishonesty by people who ignore the fact that these men are adults because they have a no borders left wing marxist ideology. There is a war ongoing in eastern Ukraine and if for example a million Ukranians headed for EU countries and arrived on the shores of Britain too. The same people who are calling migrants refugees and supporting allowing them in would be dead set and against any of the people from Ukraine being allowed in. There is definately an agenda which includes no borders, no vetting and not caring if any of these unvetted migrant army commits serious crime in europe. Plus the question not one of the no borders mob on here will ever answer is how many of these unvetted migrants do they want or support entering europe before they say that they will not accept any more. Is it one million or ten million or a hundred million or more? Their agenda is to let everyone in regardless of whether they are genuine refugees or not. I think you'll find very few people welcome unvetted migration from all over the world. I also doubt you'd find many people who'd prefer unvetted migrants from the Middle East and Africa over Ukrainian refugees! Where would you even get that idea from? Bizarre. Genuine refugees shouldn't suffer because of illegal migrants... but sorting them out is obviously the hardest part.
I would rather have one thousand people from Africa coming to europe and UK to work or study via legal channels than one hundred of these men from Africa, who are heading for certain countries and are allowed in unvetted where we do not know their background whether they are simply economic migrants which I doubt considering they have thousands to pay smugglers or whether they are sleeper cells jihadis, or criminals with criminal intent. They should all be vetted very thoroughly and also the behaviour and crime committted by many since entering Europe should not be ignored. Or covered up.
It's interesting that many of these no borders brigade who head for Calais or Greece etc handing out leaflets to people who have been picked up by NGO boats in non european waters and ferried to europe. Who go down with their iphones and smartphones etc to record themselves ignore the child miners in Africa who dig for cobalt etc which is bought by the likes of Apple etc in order to use to make smartphones to sell for huge profits.
"Who is a refugee?
A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her country because of persecution, war or violence. A refugee has a well-founded fear of persecution for reasons of race, religion, nationality, political opinion or membership in a particular social group. Most likely, they cannot return home or are afraid to do so. War and ethnic, tribal and religious violence are leading causes of refugees fleeing their countries."www.unrefugees.org/refugee-facts/what-is-a-refugee/ The fact is that everyone and their dog knows that most of these men of a certain age heading for europe are not fleeing violence. Where are the women and children and old people? The percentages do not add up. The same way that 25 year olds are not child migrants or refugees but accepted as children and even attend schools with children in Europe because there is an agenda of dishonesty by people who ignore the fact that these men are adults because they have a no borders left wing marxist ideology. There is a war ongoing in eastern Ukraine and if for example a million Ukranians headed for EU countries and arrived on the shores of Britain too. The same people who are calling migrants refugees and supporting allowing them in would be dead set and against any of the people from Ukraine being allowed in. There is definately an agenda which includes no borders, no vetting and not caring if any of these unvetted migrant army commits serious crime in europe. Plus the question not one of the no borders mob on here will ever answer is how many of these unvetted migrants do they want or support entering europe before they say that they will not accept any more. Is it one million or ten million or a hundred million or more? Their agenda is to let everyone in regardless of whether they are genuine refugees or not. I think you'll find very few people welcome unvetted migration from all over the world. I also doubt you'd find many people who'd prefer unvetted migrants from the Middle East and Africa over Ukrainian refugees! Where would you even get that idea from? Bizarre. Genuine refugees shouldn't suffer because of illegal migrants... but sorting them out is obviously the hardest part. I would rather have one thousand people from Africa coming to europe and UK to work or study via legal channels than one hundred of these men from Africa, who are heading for certain countries and are allowed in unvetted where we do not know their background whether they are simply economic migrants which I doubt considering they have thousands to pay smugglers or whether they are sleeper cells jihadis, or criminals with criminal intent. They should all be vetted very thoroughly and also the behaviour and crime committted by many since entering Europe should not be ignored. Or covered up. It's interesting that many of these no borders brigade who head for Calais or Greece etc handing out leaflets to people who have been picked up by NGO boats in non european waters and ferried to europe. Who go down with their iphones and smartphones etc to record themselves ignore the child miners in Africa who dig for cobalt etc which is bought by the likes of Apple etc in order to use to make smartphones to sell for huge profits. |
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Jan 7, 2019 17:41:45 GMT 1
Brexit, by mojo on Jan 7, 2019 17:41:45 GMT 1, and cue the placard waving rats ...
"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"... Innit 
I thought everyone read Animal Farm when they were 10 years old? Obviously not.
and cue the placard waving rats ... "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"... Innit I thought everyone read Animal Farm when they were 10 years old? Obviously not. |
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Jan 7, 2019 18:25:17 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Coach on Jan 7, 2019 18:25:17 GMT 1, As far as I can see, Brexters want all the good bits from the EU but without all the bad bits...and without paying for it. It's totally pie-in-the-sky stuff. It was doomed to failure from the start. Well, yes. I'm sure we'd all want that. But I'm genuinely interested to hear if anyone who supports Leave, who's anti the current May deal, can say what they'd change about her deal. What points can anyone point to and say they'd realistically want changed?
My question too.
As far as I can see, Brexters want all the good bits from the EU but without all the bad bits...and without paying for it. It's totally pie-in-the-sky stuff. It was doomed to failure from the start. Well, yes. I'm sure we'd all want that. But I'm genuinely interested to hear if anyone who supports Leave, who's anti the current May deal, can say what they'd change about her deal. What points can anyone point to and say they'd realistically want changed? My question too. |
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Jan 7, 2019 18:34:23 GMT 1
Brexit, by Happy Shopper on Jan 7, 2019 18:34:23 GMT 1, I think you'll find very few people welcome unvetted migration from all over the world. I also doubt you'd find many people who'd prefer unvetted migrants from the Middle East and Africa over Ukrainian refugees! Where would you even get that idea from? Bizarre. Genuine refugees shouldn't suffer because of illegal migrants... but sorting them out is obviously the hardest part. I would rather have one thousand people from Africa coming to europe and UK to work or study via legal channels than one hundred of these men from Africa, who are heading for certain countries and are allowed in unvetted where we do not know their background whether they are simply economic migrants which I doubt considering they have thousands to pay smugglers or whether they are sleeper cells jihadis, or criminals with criminal intent. They should all be vetted very thoroughly and also the behaviour and crime committted by many since entering Europe should not be ignored. Or covered up.
I doubt many would disagree with this scenario.
No one wants mass, unvetted, illegal immigration. Not even the majority of snowflake lefties.
I think you'll find very few people welcome unvetted migration from all over the world. I also doubt you'd find many people who'd prefer unvetted migrants from the Middle East and Africa over Ukrainian refugees! Where would you even get that idea from? Bizarre. Genuine refugees shouldn't suffer because of illegal migrants... but sorting them out is obviously the hardest part. I would rather have one thousand people from Africa coming to europe and UK to work or study via legal channels than one hundred of these men from Africa, who are heading for certain countries and are allowed in unvetted where we do not know their background whether they are simply economic migrants which I doubt considering they have thousands to pay smugglers or whether they are sleeper cells jihadis, or criminals with criminal intent. They should all be vetted very thoroughly and also the behaviour and crime committted by many since entering Europe should not be ignored. Or covered up. I doubt many would disagree with this scenario. No one wants mass, unvetted, illegal immigration. Not even the majority of snowflake lefties. |
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Jan 7, 2019 19:49:18 GMT 1
Brexit, by moron on Jan 7, 2019 19:49:18 GMT 1, I would rather have one thousand people from Africa coming to europe and UK to work or study via legal channels than one hundred of these men from Africa, who are heading for certain countries and are allowed in unvetted where we do not know their background whether they are simply economic migrants which I doubt considering they have thousands to pay smugglers or whether they are sleeper cells jihadis, or criminals with criminal intent. They should all be vetted very thoroughly and also the behaviour and crime committted by many since entering Europe should not be ignored. Or covered up. I doubt many would disagree with this scenario. No one wants mass, unvetted, illegal immigration. Not even the majority of snowflake lefties.
There are also allegations that this agenda is pushed so that some people can profit from it financially.
"Massive fraud and corruption noted in services for more than one million refugees"
www.irinnews.org/news/2018/11/28/audit-finds-un-refugee-agency-critically-mismanaged-donor-funds-uganda
"German asylum scandal: Staff council blames management
In an open letter, the council chairman said executives "must be in focus" in the probe. Public sector employees have been accused of mishandling asylum applications, and possibly taking bribes."
www.dw.com/en/german-asylum-scandal-staff-council-blames-management/a-43969062
I would rather have one thousand people from Africa coming to europe and UK to work or study via legal channels than one hundred of these men from Africa, who are heading for certain countries and are allowed in unvetted where we do not know their background whether they are simply economic migrants which I doubt considering they have thousands to pay smugglers or whether they are sleeper cells jihadis, or criminals with criminal intent. They should all be vetted very thoroughly and also the behaviour and crime committted by many since entering Europe should not be ignored. Or covered up. I doubt many would disagree with this scenario. No one wants mass, unvetted, illegal immigration. Not even the majority of snowflake lefties. There are quite a few no borders types who have bought into the BS that europe and european culture is bad and has to be destroyed. Soros giving 18 billion for this agenda is for a reason I would guess. There are also allegations that this agenda is pushed so that some people can profit from it financially. "Massive fraud and corruption noted in services for more than one million refugees"
www.irinnews.org/news/2018/11/28/audit-finds-un-refugee-agency-critically-mismanaged-donor-funds-uganda
"German asylum scandal: Staff council blames management
In an open letter, the council chairman said executives "must be in focus" in the probe. Public sector employees have been accused of mishandling asylum applications, and possibly taking bribes."
www.dw.com/en/german-asylum-scandal-staff-council-blames-management/a-43969062
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Brexit, by Chris JL on Jan 7, 2019 20:19:14 GMT 1, I doubt many would disagree with this scenario. No one wants mass, unvetted, illegal immigration. Not even the majority of snowflake lefties. There are quite a few no borders types who have bought into the BS that europe and european culture is bad and has to be destroyed. Soros giving 18 billion for this agenda is for a reason I would guess. There are also allegations that this agenda is pushed so that some people can profit from it financially. "Massive fraud and corruption noted in services for more than one million refugees"
www.irinnews.org/news/2018/11/28/audit-finds-un-refugee-agency-critically-mismanaged-donor-funds-uganda
"German asylum scandal: Staff council blames management
In an open letter, the council chairman said executives "must be in focus" in the probe. Public sector employees have been accused of mishandling asylum applications, and possibly taking bribes."
www.dw.com/en/german-asylum-scandal-staff-council-blames-management/a-43969062
Are you really so moron or do you work for the Kremlin? Sometimes your series of posts are so mind boggling full of lies, idiocy and ignorance that one wonders whether you are for real - especially since the majority of your talking points are exactly the ones peddled by the GRU troll farms.
I guess you absorb these BS on your favourite xenophob platforms where the GRU trolls are setting the tone.
Maybe, given your art work, it would be a good idea to apply for a job in a Russian troll farm...
I doubt many would disagree with this scenario. No one wants mass, unvetted, illegal immigration. Not even the majority of snowflake lefties. There are quite a few no borders types who have bought into the BS that europe and european culture is bad and has to be destroyed. Soros giving 18 billion for this agenda is for a reason I would guess. There are also allegations that this agenda is pushed so that some people can profit from it financially. "Massive fraud and corruption noted in services for more than one million refugees"
www.irinnews.org/news/2018/11/28/audit-finds-un-refugee-agency-critically-mismanaged-donor-funds-uganda
"German asylum scandal: Staff council blames management
In an open letter, the council chairman said executives "must be in focus" in the probe. Public sector employees have been accused of mishandling asylum applications, and possibly taking bribes."
www.dw.com/en/german-asylum-scandal-staff-council-blames-management/a-43969062
Are you really so moron or do you work for the Kremlin? Sometimes your series of posts are so mind boggling full of lies, idiocy and ignorance that one wonders whether you are for real - especially since the majority of your talking points are exactly the ones peddled by the GRU troll farms. I guess you absorb these BS on your favourite xenophob platforms where the GRU trolls are setting the tone. Maybe, given your art work, it would be a good idea to apply for a job in a Russian troll farm... |
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Jan 7, 2019 20:34:18 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Jan 7, 2019 20:34:18 GMT 1, Thats correct. So I would expect the people coming across the channel on small precarious boats are actually asylum seekers or would be as soon as they meet the first Border Force Officer, where they can initiate their claim for asylum as opposed to an illegal migrant who would try to evade being captured by Border Force officers and probably use a faster boat. Not so, In reality they are all illegal immigrants. To be eligible for asylum they have to make their claim in the first safe country. France is a safe country and they are not claiming any asylum status or help in France and instead are heading for the UK and entering the UK territory illegally. With the help of some very dodgy legal aid funded UK lawyers and also criminal gangs they are setting up or have set up a network to get into Britain. They know the system very well and with the likes of Soros and some so called migrant non profit groups who play with words and use the word "refugee" when they should be saying economic migrants or illegal immigrants (some media plays this word game too). The last lot of alledged Iranians were said to be wealthy and paid smugglers thousands to get to UK. Why have they gone through numerous safe countries and not made their claim in France or previous safe countries? Who are these people and what is their real agenda? Who elected that senile old crook Soros, king of Europe?
This is NOT true. When seeking asylum you do not have to request it in the 1st safe country you arrive in. In the EU we have an agreement that if you have asked for asylum in an EU country then that country is responsible for processing the request. If the asylum seeker leaves a country he or she has requested asylum in to seek it in another country, then that 2nd country can deport them back to the 1st.
And enough of your anti-Semitic tropes. Surely they can't be tolerated on these forums.
Thats correct. So I would expect the people coming across the channel on small precarious boats are actually asylum seekers or would be as soon as they meet the first Border Force Officer, where they can initiate their claim for asylum as opposed to an illegal migrant who would try to evade being captured by Border Force officers and probably use a faster boat. Not so, In reality they are all illegal immigrants. To be eligible for asylum they have to make their claim in the first safe country. France is a safe country and they are not claiming any asylum status or help in France and instead are heading for the UK and entering the UK territory illegally. With the help of some very dodgy legal aid funded UK lawyers and also criminal gangs they are setting up or have set up a network to get into Britain. They know the system very well and with the likes of Soros and some so called migrant non profit groups who play with words and use the word "refugee" when they should be saying economic migrants or illegal immigrants (some media plays this word game too). The last lot of alledged Iranians were said to be wealthy and paid smugglers thousands to get to UK. Why have they gone through numerous safe countries and not made their claim in France or previous safe countries? Who are these people and what is their real agenda? Who elected that senile old crook Soros, king of Europe? This is NOT true. When seeking asylum you do not have to request it in the 1st safe country you arrive in. In the EU we have an agreement that if you have asked for asylum in an EU country then that country is responsible for processing the request. If the asylum seeker leaves a country he or she has requested asylum in to seek it in another country, then that 2nd country can deport them back to the 1st. And enough of your anti-Semitic tropes. Surely they can't be tolerated on these forums. |
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Jan 7, 2019 20:39:06 GMT 1
Brexit, by moron on Jan 7, 2019 20:39:06 GMT 1, Are you really so moron or do you work for the Kremlin? Sometimes your series of posts are so mind boggling full of lies, idiocy and ignorance that one wonders whether you are for real - especially since the majority of your talking points are exactly the ones peddled by the GRU troll farms. I guess you absorb these BS on your favourite xenophob platforms where the GRU trolls are setting the tone. Maybe, given your art work, it would be a good idea to apply for a job in a Russian troll farm...
You created a thread calling Germans who demonstrated peacefully and relative of people murdered by migrants as nazi's. You even support falsely accusing relatives of victims of being doxed and labelled as nazi's. Even ignoring that the only people who made salutes at the peaceful demo were far left agitators using the usual low ball tactics of hate.
If the government allows in unvetted migrants en masse and and refuse to protect people or act to keep people safe and then blames the victims or covers up crimes. Then people have the right to raise the issue when their relatives are murdered and problems are ignored.
What exactly was your own agenda for posting that?
Are you really so moron or do you work for the Kremlin? Sometimes your series of posts are so mind boggling full of lies, idiocy and ignorance that one wonders whether you are for real - especially since the majority of your talking points are exactly the ones peddled by the GRU troll farms. I guess you absorb these BS on your favourite xenophob platforms where the GRU trolls are setting the tone. Maybe, given your art work, it would be a good idea to apply for a job in a Russian troll farm... Unlike yourself I am anything but a xenophobe. You created a thread calling Germans who demonstrated peacefully and relative of people murdered by migrants as nazi's. You even support falsely accusing relatives of victims of being doxed and labelled as nazi's. Even ignoring that the only people who made salutes at the peaceful demo were far left agitators using the usual low ball tactics of hate. If the government allows in unvetted migrants en masse and and refuse to protect people or act to keep people safe and then blames the victims or covers up crimes. Then people have the right to raise the issue when their relatives are murdered and problems are ignored. What exactly was your own agenda for posting that? |
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Jan 7, 2019 20:44:26 GMT 1
Brexit, by moron on Jan 7, 2019 20:44:26 GMT 1, Not so, In reality they are all illegal immigrants. To be eligible for asylum they have to make their claim in the first safe country. France is a safe country and they are not claiming any asylum status or help in France and instead are heading for the UK and entering the UK territory illegally. With the help of some very dodgy legal aid funded UK lawyers and also criminal gangs they are setting up or have set up a network to get into Britain. They know the system very well and with the likes of Soros and some so called migrant non profit groups who play with words and use the word "refugee" when they should be saying economic migrants or illegal immigrants (some media plays this word game too). The last lot of alledged Iranians were said to be wealthy and paid smugglers thousands to get to UK. Why have they gone through numerous safe countries and not made their claim in France or previous safe countries? Who are these people and what is their real agenda? Who elected that senile old crook Soros, king of Europe? This is NOT true. When seeking asylum you do not have to request it in the 1st safe country you arrive in. In the EU we have an agreement that if you have asked for asylum in an EU country then that country is responsible for processing the request. If the asylum seeker leaves a country he or she has requested asylum in to seek it in another country, then that 2nd country can deport them back to the 1st. And enough of your anti-Semitic tropes. Surely they can't be tolerated on these forums.
I have not posted anything anti semitic so don't know where you got that idea from.
Not so, In reality they are all illegal immigrants. To be eligible for asylum they have to make their claim in the first safe country. France is a safe country and they are not claiming any asylum status or help in France and instead are heading for the UK and entering the UK territory illegally. With the help of some very dodgy legal aid funded UK lawyers and also criminal gangs they are setting up or have set up a network to get into Britain. They know the system very well and with the likes of Soros and some so called migrant non profit groups who play with words and use the word "refugee" when they should be saying economic migrants or illegal immigrants (some media plays this word game too). The last lot of alledged Iranians were said to be wealthy and paid smugglers thousands to get to UK. Why have they gone through numerous safe countries and not made their claim in France or previous safe countries? Who are these people and what is their real agenda? Who elected that senile old crook Soros, king of Europe? This is NOT true. When seeking asylum you do not have to request it in the 1st safe country you arrive in. In the EU we have an agreement that if you have asked for asylum in an EU country then that country is responsible for processing the request. If the asylum seeker leaves a country he or she has requested asylum in to seek it in another country, then that 2nd country can deport them back to the 1st. And enough of your anti-Semitic tropes. Surely they can't be tolerated on these forums. I have not posted anything anti semitic so don't know where you got that idea from. |
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Jan 7, 2019 20:59:49 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Jan 7, 2019 20:59:49 GMT 1, This is NOT true. When seeking asylum you do not have to request it in the 1st safe country you arrive in. In the EU we have an agreement that if you have asked for asylum in an EU country then that country is responsible for processing the request. If the asylum seeker leaves a country he or she has requested asylum in to seek it in another country, then that 2nd country can deport them back to the 1st. And enough of your anti-Semitic tropes. Surely they can't be tolerated on these forums. I have not posted anything anti semitic so don't know where you got that idea from.
The continued and persistent conspiracy theories re: Soros.
This is NOT true. When seeking asylum you do not have to request it in the 1st safe country you arrive in. In the EU we have an agreement that if you have asked for asylum in an EU country then that country is responsible for processing the request. If the asylum seeker leaves a country he or she has requested asylum in to seek it in another country, then that 2nd country can deport them back to the 1st. And enough of your anti-Semitic tropes. Surely they can't be tolerated on these forums. I have not posted anything anti semitic so don't know where you got that idea from. The continued and persistent conspiracy theories re: Soros. |
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Jan 7, 2019 21:00:04 GMT 1
Brexit, by love on Jan 7, 2019 21:00:04 GMT 1, Are you really so moron or do you work for the Kremlin? Sometimes your series of posts are so mind boggling full of lies, idiocy and ignorance that one wonders whether you are for real - especially since the majority of your talking points are exactly the ones peddled by the GRU troll farms. I guess you absorb these BS on your favourite xenophob platforms where the GRU trolls are setting the tone. Maybe, given your art work, it would be a good idea to apply for a job in a Russian troll farm... Unlike yourself I am anything but a xenophobe. You created a thread calling Germans who demonstrated peacefully and relative of people murdered by migrants as nazi's. You even support falsely accusing relatives of victims of being doxed and labelled as nazi's. Even ignoring that the only people who made salutes at the peaceful demo were far left agitators using the usual low ball tactics of hate. If the government allows in unvetted migrants en masse and and refuse to protect people or act to keep people safe and then blames the victims or covers up crimes. Then people have the right to raise the issue when their relatives are murdered and problems are ignored. What exactly was your own agenda for posting that?
Neo-Nazis attacked a Jewish restaurant in Chemnitz as far-right protests erupted in Chemnitz.A group of around a dozen masked individuals stormed the kosher eatery Schalom on August 27, shouting "Get out of Germany you Jewish pig." The assailants allegedly threw stones and bottles at the restaurant, damaging the building's facade and shattering a window. The owner, Uwe Dziuballa, was also reportedly injured after being hit on the shoulder with a rock.
Hundred neo-nazis were searching for foreigners in the streets of Chemnitz. Protocolled from the police.
And you call that a peaceful demo with far left agitators. Liar!
Are you really so moron or do you work for the Kremlin? Sometimes your series of posts are so mind boggling full of lies, idiocy and ignorance that one wonders whether you are for real - especially since the majority of your talking points are exactly the ones peddled by the GRU troll farms. I guess you absorb these BS on your favourite xenophob platforms where the GRU trolls are setting the tone. Maybe, given your art work, it would be a good idea to apply for a job in a Russian troll farm... Unlike yourself I am anything but a xenophobe. You created a thread calling Germans who demonstrated peacefully and relative of people murdered by migrants as nazi's. You even support falsely accusing relatives of victims of being doxed and labelled as nazi's. Even ignoring that the only people who made salutes at the peaceful demo were far left agitators using the usual low ball tactics of hate. If the government allows in unvetted migrants en masse and and refuse to protect people or act to keep people safe and then blames the victims or covers up crimes. Then people have the right to raise the issue when their relatives are murdered and problems are ignored. What exactly was your own agenda for posting that? Liar, this is what you are! Neo-Nazis attacked a Jewish restaurant in Chemnitz as far-right protests erupted in Chemnitz.A group of around a dozen masked individuals stormed the kosher eatery Schalom on August 27, shouting "Get out of Germany you Jewish pig." The assailants allegedly threw stones and bottles at the restaurant, damaging the building's facade and shattering a window. The owner, Uwe Dziuballa, was also reportedly injured after being hit on the shoulder with a rock. Hundred neo-nazis were searching for foreigners in the streets of Chemnitz. Protocolled from the police. And you call that a peaceful demo with far left agitators. Liar! |
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Brexit, by Chris JL on Jan 7, 2019 21:42:05 GMT 1, Are you really so moron or do you work for the Kremlin? Sometimes your series of posts are so mind boggling full of lies, idiocy and ignorance that one wonders whether you are for real - especially since the majority of your talking points are exactly the ones peddled by the GRU troll farms. I guess you absorb these BS on your favourite xenophob platforms where the GRU trolls are setting the tone. Maybe, given your art work, it would be a good idea to apply for a job in a Russian troll farm... Unlike yourself I am anything but a xenophobe. You created a thread calling Germans who demonstrated peacefully and relative of people murdered by migrants as nazi's. You even support falsely accusing relatives of victims of being doxed and labelled as nazi's. Even ignoring that the only people who made salutes at the peaceful demo were far left agitators using the usual low ball tactics of hate. If the government allows in unvetted migrants en masse and and refuse to protect people or act to keep people safe and then blames the victims or covers up crimes. Then people have the right to raise the issue when their relatives are murdered and problems are ignored. What exactly was your own agenda for posting that?
You lie even about who wrote what few posts ago...
Take your meds, or whatever stops you from piling up yet more lies.
The amount of falsehoods and hate you can pack in just one post renders you pathetic. While the sum of such posts renders you heinous.
Are you really so moron or do you work for the Kremlin? Sometimes your series of posts are so mind boggling full of lies, idiocy and ignorance that one wonders whether you are for real - especially since the majority of your talking points are exactly the ones peddled by the GRU troll farms. I guess you absorb these BS on your favourite xenophob platforms where the GRU trolls are setting the tone. Maybe, given your art work, it would be a good idea to apply for a job in a Russian troll farm... Unlike yourself I am anything but a xenophobe. You created a thread calling Germans who demonstrated peacefully and relative of people murdered by migrants as nazi's. You even support falsely accusing relatives of victims of being doxed and labelled as nazi's. Even ignoring that the only people who made salutes at the peaceful demo were far left agitators using the usual low ball tactics of hate. If the government allows in unvetted migrants en masse and and refuse to protect people or act to keep people safe and then blames the victims or covers up crimes. Then people have the right to raise the issue when their relatives are murdered and problems are ignored. What exactly was your own agenda for posting that? You lie even about who wrote what few posts ago... Take your meds, or whatever stops you from piling up yet more lies. The amount of falsehoods and hate you can pack in just one post renders you pathetic. While the sum of such posts renders you heinous. |
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Jan 7, 2019 21:46:42 GMT 1
Brexit, by moron on Jan 7, 2019 21:46:42 GMT 1, Unlike yourself I am anything but a xenophobe. You created a thread calling Germans who demonstrated peacefully and relative of people murdered by migrants as nazi's. You even support falsely accusing relatives of victims of being doxed and labelled as nazi's. Even ignoring that the only people who made salutes at the peaceful demo were far left agitators using the usual low ball tactics of hate. If the government allows in unvetted migrants en masse and and refuse to protect people or act to keep people safe and then blames the victims or covers up crimes. Then people have the right to raise the issue when their relatives are murdered and problems are ignored. What exactly was your own agenda for posting that? Liar, this is what you are! Neo-Nazis attacked a Jewish restaurant in Chemnitz as far-right protests erupted in Chemnitz.A group of around a dozen masked individuals stormed the kosher eatery Schalom on August 27, shouting "Get out of Germany you Jewish pig." The assailants allegedly threw stones and bottles at the restaurant, damaging the building's facade and shattering a window. The owner, Uwe Dziuballa, was also reportedly injured after being hit on the shoulder with a rock. Hundred neo-nazis were searching for foreigners in the streets of Chemnitz. Protocolled from the police. And you call that a peaceful demo with far left agitators. Liar!
I do not like violence and I do not like nazis.
Violence achieves nothing and it destroys peaceful protest and political change.
Germany has to deal with violence no matter who is behind it.
Unlike yourself I am anything but a xenophobe. You created a thread calling Germans who demonstrated peacefully and relative of people murdered by migrants as nazi's. You even support falsely accusing relatives of victims of being doxed and labelled as nazi's. Even ignoring that the only people who made salutes at the peaceful demo were far left agitators using the usual low ball tactics of hate. If the government allows in unvetted migrants en masse and and refuse to protect people or act to keep people safe and then blames the victims or covers up crimes. Then people have the right to raise the issue when their relatives are murdered and problems are ignored. What exactly was your own agenda for posting that? Liar, this is what you are! Neo-Nazis attacked a Jewish restaurant in Chemnitz as far-right protests erupted in Chemnitz.A group of around a dozen masked individuals stormed the kosher eatery Schalom on August 27, shouting "Get out of Germany you Jewish pig." The assailants allegedly threw stones and bottles at the restaurant, damaging the building's facade and shattering a window. The owner, Uwe Dziuballa, was also reportedly injured after being hit on the shoulder with a rock. Hundred neo-nazis were searching for foreigners in the streets of Chemnitz. Protocolled from the police. And you call that a peaceful demo with far left agitators. Liar! I doubt the relatives of victims killed who demonstrated peacefully, supported in any way the actions of violent thugs and nazis who attacked the restaurant. I do not like violence and I do not like nazis. Violence achieves nothing and it destroys peaceful protest and political change. Germany has to deal with violence no matter who is behind it. |
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Jan 7, 2019 22:02:00 GMT 1
Brexit, by moron on Jan 7, 2019 22:02:00 GMT 1, I have not posted anything anti semitic so don't know where you got that idea from. The continued and persistent conspiracy theories re: Soros.
I have posted no con theos about Soros and do not care whether he is christian , jewish , buddhist or anything else.
If you are using the tactic that because Soros is jewish , if he is criticised then it must be anti jewish then you are very wrong but I know what you are doing.
Fact is that Soros gave Open Society 18 billion dollars and Open Society had 42 meetings last year with the European Commission, they have even published a book of reliable friends in the European Parliament and there are 226.
To me that looks like someone having enough money to be able to influence EU policy in an undemocratic way. The EU more interested in pandering to the political whims of Soros than to the people of the EU whose taxes pay for the EU.
www.efddgroup.eu/newsroom/how-many-meps-are-colluding-and-in-the-pocket-of-george-soros
Many people globally do not agree with Soros methods and undermining national sovereignty.
wearechange.org/state-department-sued-refusal-release-records-george-soros-foundation/
" In Israel, Knesset Member Miki Zohar (Likud) came up with the “Soros law,” aimed at terminating the foundation’s activity, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu described Soros as an enemy of Israel,"
www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5241290,00.html
I have not posted anything anti semitic so don't know where you got that idea from. The continued and persistent conspiracy theories re: Soros. So if I say I don't like Harvey Weinstein, does that make me anti semitic? I like Barry Manilow and Mel Brooks. So in effect liking or disliking someone is not because of their ethnicity. I have posted no con theos about Soros and do not care whether he is christian , jewish , buddhist or anything else. If you are using the tactic that because Soros is jewish , if he is criticised then it must be anti jewish then you are very wrong but I know what you are doing. Fact is that Soros gave Open Society 18 billion dollars and Open Society had 42 meetings last year with the European Commission, they have even published a book of reliable friends in the European Parliament and there are 226. To me that looks like someone having enough money to be able to influence EU policy in an undemocratic way. The EU more interested in pandering to the political whims of Soros than to the people of the EU whose taxes pay for the EU. www.efddgroup.eu/newsroom/how-many-meps-are-colluding-and-in-the-pocket-of-george-sorosMany people globally do not agree with Soros methods and undermining national sovereignty. wearechange.org/state-department-sued-refusal-release-records-george-soros-foundation/ " In Israel, Knesset Member Miki Zohar (Likud) came up with the “Soros law,” aimed at terminating the foundation’s activity, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu described Soros as an enemy of Israel,"www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5241290,00.html |
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Jan 7, 2019 22:17:27 GMT 1
Brexit, by love on Jan 7, 2019 22:17:27 GMT 1, Liar, this is what you are! Neo-Nazis attacked a Jewish restaurant in Chemnitz as far-right protests erupted in Chemnitz.A group of around a dozen masked individuals stormed the kosher eatery Schalom on August 27, shouting "Get out of Germany you Jewish pig." The assailants allegedly threw stones and bottles at the restaurant, damaging the building's facade and shattering a window. The owner, Uwe Dziuballa, was also reportedly injured after being hit on the shoulder with a rock. Hundred neo-nazis were searching for foreigners in the streets of Chemnitz. Protocolled from the police. And you call that a peaceful demo with far left agitators. Liar! I doubt the relatives of victims killed who demonstrated peacefully, supported in any way the actions of violent thugs and nazis who attacked the restaurant. I do not like violence and I do not like nazis. Violence achieves nothing and it destroys peaceful protest and political change. Germany has to deal with violence no matter who is behind it.
1. You posted a speech of a guy who is proud of the archievements of German soldiers in two World wars.
2. You tell lies about a march in Chemnitz with a shitload of Hooligans, extreme rights, antisemits and racists.
3. Posting videos of idiots cheering for Hitler
Just keep living in your little bubble, but please don‘t tell lies and give stage to racists.
You could try to post a video of a three year old who says „cunt“, maybe we all believe that all three years old are thugs.
Liar, this is what you are! Neo-Nazis attacked a Jewish restaurant in Chemnitz as far-right protests erupted in Chemnitz.A group of around a dozen masked individuals stormed the kosher eatery Schalom on August 27, shouting "Get out of Germany you Jewish pig." The assailants allegedly threw stones and bottles at the restaurant, damaging the building's facade and shattering a window. The owner, Uwe Dziuballa, was also reportedly injured after being hit on the shoulder with a rock. Hundred neo-nazis were searching for foreigners in the streets of Chemnitz. Protocolled from the police. And you call that a peaceful demo with far left agitators. Liar! I doubt the relatives of victims killed who demonstrated peacefully, supported in any way the actions of violent thugs and nazis who attacked the restaurant. I do not like violence and I do not like nazis. Violence achieves nothing and it destroys peaceful protest and political change. Germany has to deal with violence no matter who is behind it. You got caught red-handed with your lies, and what do you do? 1. You posted a speech of a guy who is proud of the archievements of German soldiers in two World wars. 2. You tell lies about a march in Chemnitz with a shitload of Hooligans, extreme rights, antisemits and racists. 3. Posting videos of idiots cheering for Hitler Just keep living in your little bubble, but please don‘t tell lies and give stage to racists. You could try to post a video of a three year old who says „cunt“, maybe we all believe that all three years old are thugs. |
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Jan 7, 2019 22:30:57 GMT 1
Brexit, by Leo Boyd on Jan 7, 2019 22:30:57 GMT 1, Good lord man those are 3 massively unreliable sources
the EDF group, Benjamin Netanyahu and Luke Rudkowski
If these are your sources of 'news' it is no wonder you think the way that you do
Good lord man those are 3 massively unreliable sources the EDF group, Benjamin Netanyahu and Luke Rudkowski If these are your sources of 'news' it is no wonder you think the way that you do |
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Jan 7, 2019 22:51:45 GMT 1
Brexit, by moron on Jan 7, 2019 22:51:45 GMT 1, I doubt the relatives of victims killed who demonstrated peacefully, supported in any way the actions of violent thugs and nazis who attacked the restaurant. I do not like violence and I do not like nazis. Violence achieves nothing and it destroys peaceful protest and political change. Germany has to deal with violence no matter who is behind it. You got caught red-handed with your lies, and what do you do? 1. You posted a speech of a guy who is proud of the archievements of German soldiers in two World wars. 2. You tell lies about a march in Chemnitz with as**tload of Hooligans, extreme rights, antisemits and racists. 3. Posting videos of idiots cheering for Hitler Just keep living in your little bubble, but please don‘t tell lies and give stage to racists. You could try to post a video of a three year old who says „cunt“, maybe we all believe that all three years old are thugs.
I found that particular speech very interesting. What other things he has said in the last fifty years of his life I have not looked into.
A shit load of hooligans you say, and what about the bigger shit load of hooligans like antifa etc who smash shop windows and burn cars and attack people with violence on a regular basis.
Like I said any nazi or other people who use violence should be arrested and prosecuted. I take offence at you having no sympathy for relatives of murdered people who demonstrated peacefully.
I posted a video of idiots (in your own words) chanting Adolph Hitler, giving nazi salutes and shouting "death to the jews" which you make light of because they are migrants who are doing this and you say nothing about the German police standing by and doing nothing.
You do realise that there were lots of non white soldiers in the German army during WW2 and that there are migrants as shown in the video who are racist, anti semitic and who should not be allowed to get away with this behaviour in Germany.
I doubt the relatives of victims killed who demonstrated peacefully, supported in any way the actions of violent thugs and nazis who attacked the restaurant. I do not like violence and I do not like nazis. Violence achieves nothing and it destroys peaceful protest and political change. Germany has to deal with violence no matter who is behind it. You got caught red-handed with your lies, and what do you do? 1. You posted a speech of a guy who is proud of the archievements of German soldiers in two World wars. 2. You tell lies about a march in Chemnitz with as**tload of Hooligans, extreme rights, antisemits and racists. 3. Posting videos of idiots cheering for Hitler Just keep living in your little bubble, but please don‘t tell lies and give stage to racists. You could try to post a video of a three year old who says „cunt“, maybe we all believe that all three years old are thugs. I posted a segment which had a guy in the German parliament talking about the German economy. I found that particular speech very interesting. What other things he has said in the last fifty years of his life I have not looked into. A shit load of hooligans you say, and what about the bigger shit load of hooligans like antifa etc who smash shop windows and burn cars and attack people with violence on a regular basis. Like I said any nazi or other people who use violence should be arrested and prosecuted. I take offence at you having no sympathy for relatives of murdered people who demonstrated peacefully. I posted a video of idiots (in your own words) chanting Adolph Hitler, giving nazi salutes and shouting "death to the jews" which you make light of because they are migrants who are doing this and you say nothing about the German police standing by and doing nothing. You do realise that there were lots of non white soldiers in the German army during WW2 and that there are migrants as shown in the video who are racist, anti semitic and who should not be allowed to get away with this behaviour in Germany. |
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Jan 7, 2019 23:37:45 GMT 1
Brexit, by love on Jan 7, 2019 23:37:45 GMT 1, You got caught red-handed with your lies, and what do you do? 1. You posted a speech of a guy who is proud of the archievements of German soldiers in two World wars. 2. You tell lies about a march in Chemnitz with as**tload of Hooligans, extreme rights, antisemits and racists. 3. Posting videos of idiots cheering for Hitler Just keep living in your little bubble, but please don‘t tell lies and give stage to racists. You could try to post a video of a three year old who says „cunt“, maybe we all believe that all three years old are thugs. I posted a segment which had a guy in the German parliament talking about the German economy. I found that particular speech very interesting. What other things he has said in the last fifty years of his life I have not looked into. As**t load of hooligans you say, and what about the biggers**t load of hooligans like antifa etc who smash shop windows and burn cars and attack people with violence on a regular basis. Like I said any nazi or other people who use violence should be arrested and prosecuted. I take offence at you having no sympathy for relatives of murdered people who demonstrated peacefully. I posted a video of idiots (in your own words) chanting Adolph Hitler, giving nazi salutes and shouting "death to the jews" which you make light of because they are migrants who are doing this and you say nothing about the German police standing by and doing nothing. You do realise that there were lots of non white soldiers in the German army during WW2 and that there are migrants as shown in the video who are racist, anti semitic and who should not be allowed to get away with this behaviour in Germany.
- „he has said in the last fifty years“ — he said it in the last 2 years, and you should know that as a German
- Antifa stands for Anti Fascism, I really hope you are Anti Fascism, too? I really hope that you aren‘t pro
fascism. And yes, there are idiots in the antifascist movement too.
- Where did I say that I don‘t have sympathy for the relatives? Just tell me where? Or should I show my
sympathy like the the guys in Chemnitz, so peacefully and respectful. This is what you called them.
Liar!
You got caught red-handed with your lies, and what do you do? 1. You posted a speech of a guy who is proud of the archievements of German soldiers in two World wars. 2. You tell lies about a march in Chemnitz with as**tload of Hooligans, extreme rights, antisemits and racists. 3. Posting videos of idiots cheering for Hitler Just keep living in your little bubble, but please don‘t tell lies and give stage to racists. You could try to post a video of a three year old who says „cunt“, maybe we all believe that all three years old are thugs. I posted a segment which had a guy in the German parliament talking about the German economy. I found that particular speech very interesting. What other things he has said in the last fifty years of his life I have not looked into. As**t load of hooligans you say, and what about the biggers**t load of hooligans like antifa etc who smash shop windows and burn cars and attack people with violence on a regular basis. Like I said any nazi or other people who use violence should be arrested and prosecuted. I take offence at you having no sympathy for relatives of murdered people who demonstrated peacefully. I posted a video of idiots (in your own words) chanting Adolph Hitler, giving nazi salutes and shouting "death to the jews" which you make light of because they are migrants who are doing this and you say nothing about the German police standing by and doing nothing. You do realise that there were lots of non white soldiers in the German army during WW2 and that there are migrants as shown in the video who are racist, anti semitic and who should not be allowed to get away with this behaviour in Germany. This will be my last reply, because I’m really getting bored by your lies: - „he has said in the last fifty years“ — he said it in the last 2 years, and you should know that as a German - Antifa stands for Anti Fascism, I really hope you are Anti Fascism, too? I really hope that you aren‘t pro fascism. And yes, there are idiots in the antifascist movement too. - Where did I say that I don‘t have sympathy for the relatives? Just tell me where? Or should I show my sympathy like the the guys in Chemnitz, so peacefully and respectful. This is what you called them. Liar! |
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Jan 15, 2019 21:18:46 GMT 1
Brexit, by love on Jan 15, 2019 21:18:46 GMT 1, So what now? May will lose tomorrow --> new election --> no brexit? Could that be possible?
So what now? May will lose tomorrow --> new election --> no brexit? Could that be possible?
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Jan 15, 2019 21:30:10 GMT 1, So what now? May will lose tomorrow --> new election --> no brexit? Could that be possible?
Unfortunately, May won't lose tomorrow.
So what now? May will lose tomorrow --> new election --> no brexit? Could that be possible?
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Brexit, by caruso on Jan 15, 2019 21:33:11 GMT 1, I must say this whole Brexit mess makes all other politicians in the world look good, even the s**t ones.
I must say this whole Brexit mess makes all other politicians in the world look good, even the s**t ones.
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Brexit, by Schrödinger's Chat on Jan 15, 2019 21:37:05 GMT 1, Sadly I also can't see May losing tomorrow, nor will she resign which is the historic norm after a trouncing like this.
A general election doesn't move anything forward.
A completely bloody horlicks.
My guess, Article 50 will either be kicked down the road (delayed) or revoked completely.
Sadly I also can't see May losing tomorrow, nor will she resign which is the historic norm after a trouncing like this.
A general election doesn't move anything forward.
A completely bloody horlicks.
My guess, Article 50 will either be kicked down the road (delayed) or revoked completely.
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Jan 15, 2019 21:42:05 GMT 1, Sadly I also can't see May losing tomorrow, nor will she resign which is the historic norm after a trouncing like this. A general election doesn't move anything forward. A completely bloody horlicks. My guess, Article 50 will either be kicked down the road (delayed) or revoked completely.
That could be a tough call for the EU. I can't see them granting an extension for anything other than a 2nd referendum.
Sadly I also can't see May losing tomorrow, nor will she resign which is the historic norm after a trouncing like this. A general election doesn't move anything forward. A completely bloody horlicks. My guess, Article 50 will either be kicked down the road (delayed) or revoked completely. That could be a tough call for the EU. I can't see them granting an extension for anything other than a 2nd referendum. |
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Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 21:49:17 GMT 1, It certainly is interesting times
It certainly is interesting times
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Brexit, by .dappy on Jan 15, 2019 22:36:13 GMT 1, Sadly I also can't see May losing tomorrow, nor will she resign which is the historic norm after a trouncing like this. A general election doesn't move anything forward. A completely bloody horlicks. My guess, Article 50 will either be kicked down the road (delayed) or revoked completely. That could be a tough call for the EU. I can't see them granting an extension for anything other than a 2nd referendum.
... Article 50 can be stopped at any time unilaterally by the UK government ... and started again at any time ... it doesn't need the support or approval of the other EU members ....
... that is what will happen ... breathing space for the UK government ...
Sadly I also can't see May losing tomorrow, nor will she resign which is the historic norm after a trouncing like this. A general election doesn't move anything forward. A completely bloody horlicks. My guess, Article 50 will either be kicked down the road (delayed) or revoked completely. That could be a tough call for the EU. I can't see them granting an extension for anything other than a 2nd referendum. ... Article 50 can be stopped at any time unilaterally by the UK government ... and started again at any time ... it doesn't need the support or approval of the other EU members .... ... that is what will happen ... breathing space for the UK government ... |
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Jan 15, 2019 22:40:18 GMT 1
Brexit, by mojo on Jan 15, 2019 22:40:18 GMT 1, This is already out of date however its the first listing when you type in WTF is going on with Brexit?
Dazed
Who to blame?
This is already out of date however its the first listing when you type in WTF is going on with Brexit? DazedWho to blame? |
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Brexit, by tran16 on Jan 15, 2019 22:55:05 GMT 1, The Article 50 extension is complicated by the fact that there are European elections in the early summer. Technically if it’s extended or revoked then the UK would need to put candidates forward and hold elections...... more confusion & mess
The Article 50 extension is complicated by the fact that there are European elections in the early summer. Technically if it’s extended or revoked then the UK would need to put candidates forward and hold elections...... more confusion & mess
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