mojo
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Jan 21, 2019 17:31:31 GMT 1
Brexit, by mojo on Jan 21, 2019 17:31:31 GMT 1, ...YOU! This is just another example of educated, successful, sentient beings that happen to be musicians/artists or 'pop stars' as you prefer to call them expressing their confusion and disdain that someone of Cameron's ilk would be interested in listening to their music since their lyrics are against everything he stands for. It once again proves him to be a hypocrite and a bit thick. *also just checking you do know that if you press on the links it takes you to the related articles? I think you are missing the fundamental point here. Why should I (or anyone else for that matter) take any notice of what a pop star/singer/film star/tv celebrity thinks? I assure you that I, for one, don't give a monkeys.
...YOU! This is just another example of educated, successful, sentient beings that happen to be musicians/artists or 'pop stars' as you prefer to call them expressing their confusion and disdain that someone of Cameron's ilk would be interested in listening to their music since their lyrics are against everything he stands for. It once again proves him to be a hypocrite and a bit thick. *also just checking you do know that if you press on the links it takes you to the related articles? I think you are missing the fundamental point here. Why should I (or anyone else for that matter) take any notice of what a pop star/singer/film star/tv celebrity thinks? I assure you that I, for one, don't give a monkeys. Oh well, good for you then. If you don't mind I'm currently enjoying watching the KLF burn a million quid so please do excuse me from engaging in this pointless debate about your obsessive love for David Cameron, anyone would think you were him... OMGosh it is you innit? |
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Jan 21, 2019 17:58:11 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 17:58:11 GMT 1, Wife tried to do it today... you have to have an android phone with contactless payment function!! Or, register at Hackney Council (apparently only council office in London with the facility to do it!), but not until 29th March! Chaos... I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is). My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine. It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc. I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials.
My neighbour asked if she could use my phone to do it as she had an iphone. To be honest I was pretty impressed by just how easy and quick it was to do.
Wife tried to do it today... you have to have an android phone with contactless payment function!! Or, register at Hackney Council (apparently only council office in London with the facility to do it!), but not until 29th March! Chaos... I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is). My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine. It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc. I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials. My neighbour asked if she could use my phone to do it as she had an iphone. To be honest I was pretty impressed by just how easy and quick it was to do. |
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Brexit, by Chris JL on Jan 21, 2019 18:05:17 GMT 1, Wife tried to do it today... you have to have an android phone with contactless payment function!! Or, register at Hackney Council (apparently only council office in London with the facility to do it!), but not until 29th March! Chaos... I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is). My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine. It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc. I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials.
Yes, you need and Android with nfc chip. Baseline: if you can do contactless payment with it, it should do the trick almost surely.
Once you have that, the all procedure should take no more than 30 mins (you’ll scan your face, provide your national insurance number and your address, and scan your biometric passport - old passports won’t work).
I’ve been part of a test pilot for this before Xmas, and the indefinite leave to remain was approved in less than 24h (the hardest bit was finding somebody with an Android instead of an iPhone...)
Wife tried to do it today... you have to have an android phone with contactless payment function!! Or, register at Hackney Council (apparently only council office in London with the facility to do it!), but not until 29th March! Chaos... I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is). My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine. It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc. I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials. Yes, you need and Android with nfc chip. Baseline: if you can do contactless payment with it, it should do the trick almost surely. Once you have that, the all procedure should take no more than 30 mins (you’ll scan your face, provide your national insurance number and your address, and scan your biometric passport - old passports won’t work). I’ve been part of a test pilot for this before Xmas, and the indefinite leave to remain was approved in less than 24h (the hardest bit was finding somebody with an Android instead of an iPhone...) |
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Jan 21, 2019 18:06:34 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 18:06:34 GMT 1, I think you are missing the fundamental point here. Why should I (or anyone else for that matter) take any notice of what a pop star/singer/film star/tv celebrity thinks? I assure you that I, for one, don't give a monkeys. Oh well, good for you then. If you don't mind I'm currently enjoying watching the KLF burn a million quid so please do excuse me from engaging in this pointless debate about your obsessive love for David Cameron, anyone would think you were him... OMGosh it is you innit?
I think you are missing the fundamental point here. Why should I (or anyone else for that matter) take any notice of what a pop star/singer/film star/tv celebrity thinks? I assure you that I, for one, don't give a monkeys. Oh well, good for you then. If you don't mind I'm currently enjoying watching the KLF burn a million quid so please do excuse me from engaging in this pointless debate about your obsessive love for David Cameron, anyone would think you were him... OMGosh it is you innit? I don't have an obsessive love for David Cameron. I just have an obsessive annoyance at YouTube videos posted as evidence for anything at all. It's a bit like people basing their views on current affairs from Trump's tweets. |
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Jan 21, 2019 18:06:40 GMT 1
Brexit, by Happy Shopper on Jan 21, 2019 18:06:40 GMT 1, I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is). My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine. It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc. I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials. My neighbour asked if she could use my phone to do it as she had an iphone. To be honest I was pretty impressed by just how easy and quick it was to do.
Shame she now has to wait for her £65 refund... or did that kick in already?
I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is). My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine. It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc. I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials. My neighbour asked if she could use my phone to do it as she had an iphone. To be honest I was pretty impressed by just how easy and quick it was to do. Shame she now has to wait for her £65 refund... or did that kick in already? |
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Jan 21, 2019 18:10:08 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 18:10:08 GMT 1, You have to pay for a passport so I can't see why you shouldn't have to pay for a settled status certificate (or whatever they call it).
You have to pay for a passport so I can't see why you shouldn't have to pay for a settled status certificate (or whatever they call it).
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Jan 21, 2019 18:25:04 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Schrödinger's Chat on Jan 21, 2019 18:25:04 GMT 1, You have to pay for a passport so I can't see why you shouldn't have to pay for a settled status certificate (or whatever they call it).
Yeah right, what are these 'citizens of nowhere' whining about?
In the meantime could you send me £65 and all your biometric details so I can assess whether you can carry on living the life you've been legitimately leading here for the last xx years?
You have to pay for a passport so I can't see why you shouldn't have to pay for a settled status certificate (or whatever they call it). Yeah right, what are these 'citizens of nowhere' whining about? In the meantime could you send me £65 and all your biometric details so I can assess whether you can carry on living the life you've been legitimately leading here for the last xx years? |
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Jan 21, 2019 18:28:35 GMT 1
Brexit, by Happy Shopper on Jan 21, 2019 18:28:35 GMT 1, You have to pay for a passport so I can't see why you shouldn't have to pay for a settled status certificate (or whatever they call it).
Because people already live here, have previously applied (and got) residency, and have passports too.
So it was an EXTRA cost, just to help the UK government register people on the new system.
You have to pay for a passport so I can't see why you shouldn't have to pay for a settled status certificate (or whatever they call it). Because people already live here, have previously applied (and got) residency, and have passports too. So it was an EXTRA cost, just to help the UK government register people on the new system. |
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Jan 21, 2019 18:30:28 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Jan 21, 2019 18:30:28 GMT 1, You have to pay for a passport so I can't see why you shouldn't have to pay for a settled status certificate (or whatever they call it).
Because the fee is for the pleasure of applying. Applying for permission to stay in your own home. To seek permission to stay in a country you have paid taxes into. To ask if it's ok to live a society you have contributed to for years and years. To check that it's still alright to live with your family after all this time.
That's not to mention paying to hand your data over to the authorities when no other residents in this country have to provide that data. And ontop of that pay to have no access to that data which can then be passed on to any third party of the government's choosing.
Why the f*'k should anyone have a certificate to stay in what was legally their home, until the rules were changed retrospectively?
You have to pay for a passport so I can't see why you shouldn't have to pay for a settled status certificate (or whatever they call it). Because the fee is for the pleasure of applying. Applying for permission to stay in your own home. To seek permission to stay in a country you have paid taxes into. To ask if it's ok to live a society you have contributed to for years and years. To check that it's still alright to live with your family after all this time. That's not to mention paying to hand your data over to the authorities when no other residents in this country have to provide that data. And ontop of that pay to have no access to that data which can then be passed on to any third party of the government's choosing. Why the f*'k should anyone have a certificate to stay in what was legally their home, until the rules were changed retrospectively? |
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Jan 21, 2019 18:32:45 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Jan 21, 2019 18:32:45 GMT 1, I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is). My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine. It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc. I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials. Yes, you need and Android with nfc chip. Baseline: if you can do contactless payment with it, it should do the trick almost surely. Once you have that, the all procedure should take no more than 30 mins (you’ll scan your face, provide your national insurance number and your address, and scan your biometric passport - old passports won’t work). I’ve been part of a test pilot test for this before Xmas, and the indefinite leave to remain was approved in less than 24h (the hardest bit was finding somebody with an Android instead of an iPhone...)
Have you got ILR or settled status?
I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is). My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine. It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc. I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials. Yes, you need and Android with nfc chip. Baseline: if you can do contactless payment with it, it should do the trick almost surely. Once you have that, the all procedure should take no more than 30 mins (you’ll scan your face, provide your national insurance number and your address, and scan your biometric passport - old passports won’t work). I’ve been part of a test pilot test for this before Xmas, and the indefinite leave to remain was approved in less than 24h (the hardest bit was finding somebody with an Android instead of an iPhone...) Have you got ILR or settled status? |
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Jan 21, 2019 18:53:56 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 18:53:56 GMT 1, Wife tried to do it today... you have to have an android phone with contactless payment function!! Or, register at Hackney Council (apparently only council office in London with the facility to do it!), but not until 29th March! Chaos... I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is). My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine. It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc. I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials.
I think May has done away with the £65
It is such a shame it's come to this when like you say, homes have been made people have settled, I was listening on the radio when a retired nurse phoned in who had moved over here in the 60's at 17, spent her whole career in the NHS, is now retired, husband has passed away, and she has to do this as well. Hopefully just a blip in history and normal service will be resumed
Wife tried to do it today... you have to have an android phone with contactless payment function!! Or, register at Hackney Council (apparently only council office in London with the facility to do it!), but not until 29th March! Chaos... I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is). My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine. It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc. I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials. I think May has done away with the £65 It is such a shame it's come to this when like you say, homes have been made people have settled, I was listening on the radio when a retired nurse phoned in who had moved over here in the 60's at 17, spent her whole career in the NHS, is now retired, husband has passed away, and she has to do this as well. Hopefully just a blip in history and normal service will be resumed |
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Brexit, by Chris JL on Jan 21, 2019 18:54:26 GMT 1, Yes, you need and Android with nfc chip. Baseline: if you can do contactless payment with it, it should do the trick almost surely. Once you have that, the all procedure should take no more than 30 mins (you’ll scan your face, provide your national insurance number and your address, and scan your biometric passport - old passports won’t work). I’ve been part of a test pilot test for this before Xmas, and the indefinite leave to remain was approved in less than 24h (the hardest bit was finding somebody with an Android instead of an iPhone...) Have you got ILR or settled status?
It’s the same thing actually. It’s the EU settlement scheme, but you get an ILR upon approval. Or in the home office words: “I am pleased to inform you that your application under the EU Settlement Scheme has been successful and that you have been granted Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) in the United Kingdom, under Appendix EU to the Immigration Rules. This is also referred to as settled status.”
Yes, you need and Android with nfc chip. Baseline: if you can do contactless payment with it, it should do the trick almost surely. Once you have that, the all procedure should take no more than 30 mins (you’ll scan your face, provide your national insurance number and your address, and scan your biometric passport - old passports won’t work). I’ve been part of a test pilot test for this before Xmas, and the indefinite leave to remain was approved in less than 24h (the hardest bit was finding somebody with an Android instead of an iPhone...) Have you got ILR or settled status? It’s the same thing actually. It’s the EU settlement scheme, but you get an ILR upon approval. Or in the home office words: “I am pleased to inform you that your application under the EU Settlement Scheme has been successful and that you have been granted Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) in the United Kingdom, under Appendix EU to the Immigration Rules. This is also referred to as settled status.” |
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Jan 21, 2019 19:09:12 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 19:09:12 GMT 1, You have to pay for a passport so I can't see why you shouldn't have to pay for a settled status certificate (or whatever they call it). Because the fee is for the pleasure of applying. Applying for permission to stay in your own home. To seek permission to stay in a country you have paid taxes into. To ask if it's ok to live a society you have contributed to for years and years. To check that it's still alright to live with your family after all this time. That's not to mention paying to hand your data over to the authorities when no other residents in this country have to provide that data. And ontop of that pay to have no access to that data which can then be passed on to any third party of the government's choosing. Why the f*'k should anyone have a certificate to stay in what was legally their home, until the rules were changed retrospectively?
You have to pay for a passport so I can't see why you shouldn't have to pay for a settled status certificate (or whatever they call it). Because the fee is for the pleasure of applying. Applying for permission to stay in your own home. To seek permission to stay in a country you have paid taxes into. To ask if it's ok to live a society you have contributed to for years and years. To check that it's still alright to live with your family after all this time. That's not to mention paying to hand your data over to the authorities when no other residents in this country have to provide that data. And ontop of that pay to have no access to that data which can then be passed on to any third party of the government's choosing. Why the f*'k should anyone have a certificate to stay in what was legally their home, until the rules were changed retrospectively? I suspect all countries charge a fee to register people. If I had been living in the USA for a few years but don't have an American passport, I'm sure Mr. Trump would expect me to pay something for the privilege of having a residency permit. You don't get anything for nothing these days. |
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Jan 21, 2019 19:27:20 GMT 1
Brexit, by mojo on Jan 21, 2019 19:27:20 GMT 1, Oh well, good for you then. If you don't mind I'm currently enjoying watching the KLF burn a million quid so please do excuse me from engaging in this pointless debate about your obsessive love for David Cameron, anyone would think you were him... OMGosh it is you innit? I don't have an obsessive love for David Cameron. I just have an obsessive annoyance at YouTube videos posted as evidence for anything at all. It's a bit like people basing their views on current affairs from Trump's tweets.
Oh well, good for you then. If you don't mind I'm currently enjoying watching the KLF burn a million quid so please do excuse me from engaging in this pointless debate about your obsessive love for David Cameron, anyone would think you were him... OMGosh it is you innit? I don't have an obsessive love for David Cameron. I just have an obsessive annoyance at YouTube videos posted as evidence for anything at all. It's a bit like people basing their views on current affairs from Trump's tweets. Evidence! I thought this was an art forum? I post you tube videos as they are infinitely more interesting and creative than listening to your non stop relentless drivel in support of all things Tory, and that perhaps others may find some brief enjoyment and escape too if they choose to watch them. Your implication that my views on current affairs are informed by twitter is a complete nonsense, arrogant and disrespectful...well done I expect nothing less from a Tory. |
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Jan 21, 2019 19:42:34 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Jan 21, 2019 19:42:34 GMT 1, Because the fee is for the pleasure of applying. Applying for permission to stay in your own home. To seek permission to stay in a country you have paid taxes into. To ask if it's ok to live a society you have contributed to for years and years. To check that it's still alright to live with your family after all this time. That's not to mention paying to hand your data over to the authorities when no other residents in this country have to provide that data. And ontop of that pay to have no access to that data which can then be passed on to any third party of the government's choosing. Why the f*'k should anyone have a certificate to stay in what was legally their home, until the rules were changed retrospectively? I suspect all countries charge a fee to register people. If I had been living in the USA for a few years but don't have an American passport, I'm sure Mr. Trump would expect me to pay something for the privilege of having a residency permit. You don't get anything for nothing these days.
Its a fee to apply to be granted less rights than you had previously. It is not a registration fee.
Because the fee is for the pleasure of applying. Applying for permission to stay in your own home. To seek permission to stay in a country you have paid taxes into. To ask if it's ok to live a society you have contributed to for years and years. To check that it's still alright to live with your family after all this time. That's not to mention paying to hand your data over to the authorities when no other residents in this country have to provide that data. And ontop of that pay to have no access to that data which can then be passed on to any third party of the government's choosing. Why the f*'k should anyone have a certificate to stay in what was legally their home, until the rules were changed retrospectively? I suspect all countries charge a fee to register people. If I had been living in the USA for a few years but don't have an American passport, I'm sure Mr. Trump would expect me to pay something for the privilege of having a residency permit. You don't get anything for nothing these days. Its a fee to apply to be granted less rights than you had previously. It is not a registration fee. |
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Jan 23, 2019 17:49:36 GMT 1
Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Jan 23, 2019 17:49:36 GMT 1,
Just 2 mins away from the Solihull Jaguar Landrover factory, on the route in for most workers.
Just 2 mins away from the Solihull Jaguar Landrover factory, on the route in for most workers. |
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Feb 3, 2019 15:35:36 GMT 1
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Brexit, by .dappy on Feb 3, 2019 15:35:36 GMT 1,
Ring Ring ... Ring Ring
Mr Bernier: Ah! Mrs May, I look forward to meeting you in the next few days ...
Mrs May: Yes, yes ... I have a clear mandate following some amendments put forward in the UK Parliament ...
Mr Bernier: It has been a difficult time for you. I welcome to hear of these 'alternative arrangements' that were voted on ...
Mrs May: Yes, yes 'alternative arrangements' ... I have a mandate ...
Mr Bernier:. I look forward to receiving them ... could you give me an outline of what they actually mean?
Mrs May: They're 'alternative arrangements' ...
Mr Bernier: Yes - but what are these 'alternative arrangements'?
Mrs May: You know - 'alternative arrangements' ...
Mr Bernier: Can you explain, even a little bit more?
Mrs May: *Puts phone down*
Ring Ring ... Ring Ring
Mr Bernier: Ah! Mrs May, I look forward to meeting you in the next few days ...
Mrs May: Yes, yes ... I have a clear mandate following some amendments put forward in the UK Parliament ...
Mr Bernier: It has been a difficult time for you. I welcome to hear of these 'alternative arrangements' that were voted on ...
Mrs May: Yes, yes 'alternative arrangements' ... I have a mandate ...
Mr Bernier:. I look forward to receiving them ... could you give me an outline of what they actually mean?
Mrs May: They're 'alternative arrangements' ...
Mr Bernier: Yes - but what are these 'alternative arrangements'?
Mrs May: You know - 'alternative arrangements' ...
Mr Bernier: Can you explain, even a little bit more?
Mrs May: *Puts phone down*
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Feb 3, 2019 17:23:25 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 17:23:25 GMT 1, The problem with all these votes in parliament on Brexit deals and amendments, and amendments to the amendments etc. etc...is if Monsieur Bernier says 'no' then whatever is said and agreed upon in the House of Commons means diddlysquat. This seems to be a point that, so far, MPs haven't quite managed to grasp.
The problem with all these votes in parliament on Brexit deals and amendments, and amendments to the amendments etc. etc...is if Monsieur Bernier says 'no' then whatever is said and agreed upon in the House of Commons means diddlysquat. This seems to be a point that, so far, MPs haven't quite managed to grasp.
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Feb 3, 2019 17:37:21 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 17:37:21 GMT 1, The problem with all these votes in parliament on Brexit deals and amendments, and amendments to the amendments etc. etc...is if Monsieur Bernier says 'no' then whatever is said and agreed upon in the House of Commons means diddlysquat. This seems to be a point that, so far, MPs haven't quite managed to grasp.
you honestly think they havent grasped that ?
The problem with all these votes in parliament on Brexit deals and amendments, and amendments to the amendments etc. etc...is if Monsieur Bernier says 'no' then whatever is said and agreed upon in the House of Commons means diddlysquat. This seems to be a point that, so far, MPs haven't quite managed to grasp. you honestly think they havent grasped that ? |
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Feb 3, 2019 17:50:59 GMT 1
Brexit, by moron on Feb 3, 2019 17:50:59 GMT 1, I think Maggie May and the Brexiteers jumped the gun. Instead of having the date as end of march this year for Brexit.
The date should have been delayed untill after the European elections in May as it looks like the EU Mep's will consist of less socialist far left leaning types and more conservative types who will be more favourable towards the UK and also towards a shift of power from unelected EU beaurocrats.
May has made a cock up of the negotiations but that's mainly down to the EU tactic of not agreeing to anything and refusing to re negotiate a new agreement.
The UK government has not played it's strongest cards and appear spineless.
I think Maggie May and the Brexiteers jumped the gun. Instead of having the date as end of march this year for Brexit.
The date should have been delayed untill after the European elections in May as it looks like the EU Mep's will consist of less socialist far left leaning types and more conservative types who will be more favourable towards the UK and also towards a shift of power from unelected EU beaurocrats.
May has made a cock up of the negotiations but that's mainly down to the EU tactic of not agreeing to anything and refusing to re negotiate a new agreement.
The UK government has not played it's strongest cards and appear spineless.
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Feb 3, 2019 19:13:47 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 19:13:47 GMT 1, The problem with all these votes in parliament on Brexit deals and amendments, and amendments to the amendments etc. etc...is if Monsieur Bernier says 'no' then whatever is said and agreed upon in the House of Commons means diddlysquat. This seems to be a point that, so far, MPs haven't quite managed to grasp. you honestly think they havent grasped that ?
The problem with all these votes in parliament on Brexit deals and amendments, and amendments to the amendments etc. etc...is if Monsieur Bernier says 'no' then whatever is said and agreed upon in the House of Commons means diddlysquat. This seems to be a point that, so far, MPs haven't quite managed to grasp. you honestly think they havent grasped that ? What I mean is, that they act as if they haven't. They seem to spend all their time trying to get an agreement amongst themselves when the people they need to agree things with is the EU not themselves. They can agree all sorts of things in the House of Commons but it doesn't actually get them anywhere out in the real world. |
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Brexit, by .dappy on Feb 3, 2019 19:20:45 GMT 1, ... some people on here are deluded 🙄🙄🙄
... the UK government never had a plan or how or what to negotiate, but some people never and still don't understand that ...
http://instagram.com/p/Bsn7USzgxT_
... some people on here are deluded 🙄🙄🙄 ... the UK government never had a plan or how or what to negotiate, but some people never and still don't understand that ... http://instagram.com/p/Bsn7USzgxT_ |
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Brexit, by artforartssake on Feb 3, 2019 19:46:01 GMT 1, ... some people on here are deluded 🙄🙄🙄 ... the UK government never had a plan or how or what to negotiate, but some people never and still don't understand that ... http://instagr.am/p/Bsn7USzgxT_
... some people on here are deluded 🙄🙄🙄 ... the UK government never had a plan or how or what to negotiate, but some people never and still don't understand that ... http://instagr.am/p/Bsn7USzgxT_ Sorry to spoil the delusion but Michael Gove didn't join Twitter until June 2016 😉 |
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Feb 3, 2019 20:07:44 GMT 1
Brexit, by Matt on Feb 3, 2019 20:07:44 GMT 1, ... some people on here are deluded 🙄🙄🙄 ... the UK government never had a plan or how or what to negotiate, but some people never and still don't understand that ... http://instagr.am/p/Bsn7USzgxT_ Sorry to spoil the delusion but Michael Gove didn't join Twitter until June 2016 😉
The quote and date on which he said it are accurate.
It was made into a faux twitter for the guerrilla advertising, which does not claim these are actual twitter but rather a reminder to the public of promises made MPs
... some people on here are deluded 🙄🙄🙄 ... the UK government never had a plan or how or what to negotiate, but some people never and still don't understand that ... http://instagr.am/p/Bsn7USzgxT_ Sorry to spoil the delusion but Michael Gove didn't join Twitter until June 2016 😉 The quote and date on which he said it are accurate. It was made into a faux twitter for the guerrilla advertising, which does not claim these are actual twitter but rather a reminder to the public of promises made MPs |
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Feb 3, 2019 20:08:12 GMT 1
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Brexit, by .dappy on Feb 3, 2019 20:08:12 GMT 1, ... some people on here are deluded 🙄🙄🙄 ... the UK government never had a plan or how or what to negotiate, but some people never and still don't understand that ... http://instagr.am/p/Bsn7USzgxT_ Sorry to spoil the delusion but Michael Gove didn't join Twitter until June 2016 😉
... no delusion ... ledbydonkeys have a knowledged this ... he still said it though ... there you go 
http://instagram.com/p/BtTrfn6nkGP
... some people on here are deluded 🙄🙄🙄 ... the UK government never had a plan or how or what to negotiate, but some people never and still don't understand that ... http://instagr.am/p/Bsn7USzgxT_ Sorry to spoil the delusion but Michael Gove didn't join Twitter until June 2016 😉 ... no delusion ... ledbydonkeys have a knowledged this ... he still said it though ... there you go http://instagram.com/p/BtTrfn6nkGP |
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Brexit, by .dappy on Feb 3, 2019 21:03:53 GMT 1, ... and to add to the Shambles ... Liam Fox: International Trade Secretary, Cabinet minister, a lead Brexiter and negotiator ...
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Brexit, by .dappy on Feb 3, 2019 23:47:01 GMT 1,
... of course it's different ... he soon excused himself from the Brexit negotiations ... and now sees what a cluster fück he led us into and is ... 🙄
... of course it's different ... he soon excused himself from the Brexit negotiations ... and now sees what a cluster fück he led us into and is ... 🙄 |
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Brexit, by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 10:59:12 GMT 1, ... and to add to the Shambles ... Liam Fox: International Trade Secretary, Cabinet minister, a lead Brexiter and negotiator ... http://instagr.am/p/BsvtFaeAa7o
... and to add to the Shambles ... Liam Fox: International Trade Secretary, Cabinet minister, a lead Brexiter and negotiator ... http://instagr.am/p/BsvtFaeAa7o To be fair, Liam Fox is correct. It 'should be'. All we have to do is agree to align ourselves with the EU rules. But arch Brexiteers don't want us to do that. |
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