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Brexit, by Chris JL on Jan 20, 2019 13:36:59 GMT 1, We already know that many lies were spread in the run up to the Brexit referendum. I'm not sure what this campaign adds to it. I can't see that this makes Brexit MPs idiots or hypocrites. I also can't see how sending money to crowdfunder helps to "fight against Brexit".
There is no future without memory. And the public forgets too quickly.
We already know that many lies were spread in the run up to the Brexit referendum. I'm not sure what this campaign adds to it. I can't see that this makes Brexit MPs idiots or hypocrites. I also can't see how sending money to crowdfunder helps to "fight against Brexit". There is no future without memory. And the public forgets too quickly. |
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Jan 20, 2019 13:37:58 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 13:37:58 GMT 1, We already know that many lies were spread in the run up to the Brexit referendum. I'm not sure what this campaign adds to it. I can't see that this makes Brexit MPs idiots or hypocrites. I also can't see how sending money to crowdfunder helps to "fight against Brexit". The only thing it shows is that remainers have to much money as well as to much time on their hands.
A pointless activity and a waste of money.
We already know that many lies were spread in the run up to the Brexit referendum. I'm not sure what this campaign adds to it. I can't see that this makes Brexit MPs idiots or hypocrites. I also can't see how sending money to crowdfunder helps to "fight against Brexit". The only thing it shows is that remainers have to much money as well as to much time on their hands. As a Remainer, I find myself agreeing with you. A pointless activity and a waste of money. |
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Brexit, by Chris JL on Jan 20, 2019 15:04:31 GMT 1, I love this one. That’s clearly how he will enter the history books 😊
And that’s almost surely the same slogan the Tories will run on again next time around (May did too...)
I love this one. That’s clearly how he will enter the history books 😊 And that’s almost surely the same slogan the Tories will run on again next time around (May did too...) |
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Jan 20, 2019 17:31:58 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 17:31:58 GMT 1, I love this one. That’s clearly how he will enter the history books 😊 And that’s almost surely the same slogan the Tories will run on again next time around (May did too...)
I love this one. That’s clearly how he will enter the history books 😊 And that’s almost surely the same slogan the Tories will run on again next time around (May did too...) To be fair, things only became unstable and un-strong when David Cameron buggered off. It's interesting to speculate what would have happened if he didn't resign when he did. |
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Jan 20, 2019 17:35:25 GMT 1, I love this one. That’s clearly how he will enter the history books 😊 And that’s almost surely the same slogan the Tories will run on again next time around (May did too...) To be fair, things only became unstable and un-strong when David Cameron buggered off. It's interesting to speculate what would have happened if he didn't resign when he did.
He called the bloody thing through being weak for god's sake.
I love this one. That’s clearly how he will enter the history books 😊 And that’s almost surely the same slogan the Tories will run on again next time around (May did too...) To be fair, things only became unstable and un-strong when David Cameron buggered off. It's interesting to speculate what would have happened if he didn't resign when he did. He called the bloody thing through being weak for god's sake. |
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Brexit, by .dappy on Jan 20, 2019 20:42:16 GMT 1, I love this one. That’s clearly how he will enter the history books 😊 And that’s almost surely the same slogan the Tories will run on again next time around (May did too...) To be fair, things only became unstable and un-strong when David Cameron buggered off. It's interesting to speculate what would have happened if he didn't resign when he did.
... do you honestly believe that ... 🙄🙄🙄
I love this one. That’s clearly how he will enter the history books 😊 And that’s almost surely the same slogan the Tories will run on again next time around (May did too...) To be fair, things only became unstable and un-strong when David Cameron buggered off. It's interesting to speculate what would have happened if he didn't resign when he did. ... do you honestly believe that ... 🙄🙄🙄 |
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Chris JL
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Brexit, by Chris JL on Jan 20, 2019 21:33:32 GMT 1, I love this one. That’s clearly how he will enter the history books 😊 And that’s almost surely the same slogan the Tories will run on again next time around (May did too...) To be fair, things only became unstable and un-strong when David Cameron buggered off. It's interesting to speculate what would have happened if he didn't resign when he did.
As said, people have no memory.
Who debased the UK economy with unneeded ideological austerity? (That increased, rather than reduce, the debt burden, and killed growth)
Who brought you the Brexit referendum gambling the country for personal political interest? A referendum that went bonkers thanks to the popular reaction to his austerity policy.
The dude’s policies are even co-responsible for the London riots!
And without the senseless austerity push the European geopolitical landscape would look utterly different nowadays.
Unbelievable. Put more fish in your diet.
I love this one. That’s clearly how he will enter the history books 😊 And that’s almost surely the same slogan the Tories will run on again next time around (May did too...) To be fair, things only became unstable and un-strong when David Cameron buggered off. It's interesting to speculate what would have happened if he didn't resign when he did. As said, people have no memory. Who debased the UK economy with unneeded ideological austerity? (That increased, rather than reduce, the debt burden, and killed growth) Who brought you the Brexit referendum gambling the country for personal political interest? A referendum that went bonkers thanks to the popular reaction to his austerity policy. The dude’s policies are even co-responsible for the London riots! And without the senseless austerity push the European geopolitical landscape would look utterly different nowadays. Unbelievable. Put more fish in your diet. |
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Jan 20, 2019 21:43:55 GMT 1
Brexit, by mojo on Jan 20, 2019 21:43:55 GMT 1, What's the point of this crowdfunder? (Serious question.) What is its aim? Is it simply an expensive way of saying, "let's all laugh at politicians' predictions that didn't come true"? I can think of much better ways to spend my money, can't you? 
What's the point of this crowdfunder? (Serious question.) What is its aim? Is it simply an expensive way of saying, "let's all laugh at politicians' predictions that didn't come true"? I can think of much better ways to spend my money, can't you? They're revolting |
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Jan 21, 2019 11:22:39 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 11:22:39 GMT 1, To be fair, things only became unstable and un-strong when David Cameron buggered off. It's interesting to speculate what would have happened if he didn't resign when he did. He called the bloody thing through being weak for god's sake.
The referendum itself did not cause the chaos.
To be fair, things only became unstable and un-strong when David Cameron buggered off. It's interesting to speculate what would have happened if he didn't resign when he did. He called the bloody thing through being weak for god's sake. Yes, he called the referendum. He did not cause the Brexit negotiations chaos. The referendum itself did not cause the chaos. |
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Jan 21, 2019 11:29:40 GMT 1
Brexit, by Happy Shopper on Jan 21, 2019 11:29:40 GMT 1, He called the bloody thing through being weak for god's sake. Yes, he called the referendum. He did not cause the Brexit negotiations chaos. The referendum itself did not cause the chaos.
You don't think calling a referendum with no idea of what the consequences of a Leave vote would be, and no plan, caused chaos?
He called the bloody thing through being weak for god's sake. Yes, he called the referendum. He did not cause the Brexit negotiations chaos. The referendum itself did not cause the chaos. You don't think calling a referendum with no idea of what the consequences of a Leave vote would be, and no plan, caused chaos? |
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Jan 21, 2019 11:39:25 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 11:39:25 GMT 1, Yes, he called the referendum. He did not cause the Brexit negotiations chaos. The referendum itself did not cause the chaos. You don't think calling a referendum with no idea of what the consequences of a Leave vote would be, and no plan, caused chaos?
Blame the Boris Johnsons of this world, not the David Camerons.
Yes, he called the referendum. He did not cause the Brexit negotiations chaos. The referendum itself did not cause the chaos. You don't think calling a referendum with no idea of what the consequences of a Leave vote would be, and no plan, caused chaos? Blame those that campaigned for bloody Brexit, not those who campaigned to stop it from happening. Blame the Boris Johnsons of this world, not the David Camerons. |
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Jan 21, 2019 12:13:11 GMT 1
Brexit, by Happy Shopper on Jan 21, 2019 12:13:11 GMT 1, You don't think calling a referendum with no idea of what the consequences of a Leave vote would be, and no plan, caused chaos? Blame those that campaigned for bloody Brexit, not those who campaigned to stop it from happening. Blame the Boris Johnsons of this world, not the David Camerons.
I blame them too... But Cameron should have had a plan for what would happen. He and the rest of his party gambled with our future for the sake of staying in power.
You don't think calling a referendum with no idea of what the consequences of a Leave vote would be, and no plan, caused chaos? Blame those that campaigned for bloody Brexit, not those who campaigned to stop it from happening. Blame the Boris Johnsons of this world, not the David Camerons. I blame them too... But Cameron should have had a plan for what would happen. He and the rest of his party gambled with our future for the sake of staying in power. |
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Jan 21, 2019 12:57:07 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 12:57:07 GMT 1, Blame those that campaigned for bloody Brexit, not those who campaigned to stop it from happening. Blame the Boris Johnsons of this world, not the David Camerons. I blame them too... But Cameron should have had a plan for what would happen. He and the rest of his party gambled with our future for the sake of staying in power.
Blame those that campaigned for bloody Brexit, not those who campaigned to stop it from happening. Blame the Boris Johnsons of this world, not the David Camerons. I blame them too... But Cameron should have had a plan for what would happen. He and the rest of his party gambled with our future for the sake of staying in power. With the rise of UKIP and anti-immigrant sentiments, an EU referendum was inevitable at some point. If David Cameron did not propose one then the next government would have had to do so. It was going to happen regardless. I still think it was Boris Johnson who should have had a plan, not David Cameron. |
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Jan 21, 2019 13:03:31 GMT 1
Brexit, by Happy Shopper on Jan 21, 2019 13:03:31 GMT 1, I blame them too... But Cameron should have had a plan for what would happen. He and the rest of his party gambled with our future for the sake of staying in power. With the rise of UKIP and anti-immigrant sentiments, an EU referendum was inevitable at some point. If David Cameron did not propose one then the next government would have had to do so. It was going to happen regardless. I still think it was Boris Johnson who should have had a plan, not David Cameron.
Cameron called it with no plan... Others could of called it yes, but also should have had a plan.
A clear idea of what would happen for Northern Ireland, whether we'd stay in a Customs Union... basically a clear idea of what was being voted on, and could be delivered.
Not just rushing into a generic vote, in or out, for the sake of UKIP votes!
He's an idiot and will be forever remembered for the massive mess he created.
I blame them too... But Cameron should have had a plan for what would happen. He and the rest of his party gambled with our future for the sake of staying in power. With the rise of UKIP and anti-immigrant sentiments, an EU referendum was inevitable at some point. If David Cameron did not propose one then the next government would have had to do so. It was going to happen regardless. I still think it was Boris Johnson who should have had a plan, not David Cameron. Cameron called it with no plan... Others could of called it yes, but also should have had a plan. A clear idea of what would happen for Northern Ireland, whether we'd stay in a Customs Union... basically a clear idea of what was being voted on, and could be delivered. Not just rushing into a generic vote, in or out, for the sake of UKIP votes! He's an idiot and will be forever remembered for the massive mess he created. |
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Brexit, by Chris JL on Jan 21, 2019 13:32:33 GMT 1, I blame them too... But Cameron should have had a plan for what would happen. He and the rest of his party gambled with our future for the sake of staying in power. With the rise of UKIP and anti-immigrant sentiments, an EU referendum was inevitable at some point. If David Cameron did not propose one then the next government would have had to do so. It was going to happen regardless. I still think it was Boris Johnson who should have had a plan, not David Cameron.
His ideological and misguided austerity pushed the protest vote. He killed economic growth and public finances, brought us back child poverty and food banks, and gifted us Brexit for self interest of internal party politics.
You are either oblivious or delusional.
I blame them too... But Cameron should have had a plan for what would happen. He and the rest of his party gambled with our future for the sake of staying in power. With the rise of UKIP and anti-immigrant sentiments, an EU referendum was inevitable at some point. If David Cameron did not propose one then the next government would have had to do so. It was going to happen regardless. I still think it was Boris Johnson who should have had a plan, not David Cameron. His ideological and misguided austerity pushed the protest vote. He killed economic growth and public finances, brought us back child poverty and food banks, and gifted us Brexit for self interest of internal party politics. You are either oblivious or delusional. |
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Jan 21, 2019 13:39:43 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 13:39:43 GMT 1, With the rise of UKIP and anti-immigrant sentiments, an EU referendum was inevitable at some point. If David Cameron did not propose one then the next government would have had to do so. It was going to happen regardless. I still think it was Boris Johnson who should have had a plan, not David Cameron. His ideological and misguided austerity pushed the protest vote. He killed economic growth and public finances, brought us back child poverty and food banks, and gifted us Brexit for self interest of internal party politics. You are either oblivious or delusional.
With the rise of UKIP and anti-immigrant sentiments, an EU referendum was inevitable at some point. If David Cameron did not propose one then the next government would have had to do so. It was going to happen regardless. I still think it was Boris Johnson who should have had a plan, not David Cameron. His ideological and misguided austerity pushed the protest vote. He killed economic growth and public finances, brought us back child poverty and food banks, and gifted us Brexit for self interest of internal party politics. You are either oblivious or delusional. I don't know why you keep bringing up the subject of austerity and economic growth, poverty, food banks etc. etc. The EU question would have still been around regardless of economic growth or lack thereof. The UKIP brigade along with their anti-immigrant and anti-Europe stance don't just disappear because the economy is doing well or because there is no child poverty. |
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Jan 21, 2019 13:51:48 GMT 1, He called the bloody thing through being weak for god's sake. Yes, he called the referendum. He did not cause the Brexit negotiations chaos. The referendum itself did not cause the chaos.
Errrrm! Not sure where I stated that he caused negotiation chaos, although walking away before they even started was a bit of a giveaway that he hadn't got a clue about what he'd done, or what was about to happen. I said he was weak. He called a referendum because he was scared of losing voters to UKIP and had no idea how to prevent that from happening other than to point his party in that direction.
He called the bloody thing through being weak for god's sake. Yes, he called the referendum. He did not cause the Brexit negotiations chaos. The referendum itself did not cause the chaos. Errrrm! Not sure where I stated that he caused negotiation chaos, although walking away before they even started was a bit of a giveaway that he hadn't got a clue about what he'd done, or what was about to happen. I said he was weak. He called a referendum because he was scared of losing voters to UKIP and had no idea how to prevent that from happening other than to point his party in that direction. |
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Jan 21, 2019 13:53:55 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Matt on Jan 21, 2019 13:53:55 GMT 1, His ideological and misguided austerity pushed the protest vote. He killed economic growth and public finances, brought us back child poverty and food banks, and gifted us Brexit for self interest of internal party politics. You are either oblivious or delusional. I don't know why you keep bringing up the subject of austerity and economic growth, poverty, food banks etc. etc. The EU question would have still been around regardless of economic growth or lack thereof. The UKIP brigade along with their anti-immigrant and anti-Europe stance don't just disappear because the economy is doing well or because there is no child poverty.
Speculating as to whether the referendum would have happened in another context is a bit pointless though.
The fact remains that Cameron triggered it, for personal gain.end of.
The other fact remains that austerity policies favour extremists like UKIP by breeding a combination of poverty, anger, fear, individualism, lack of education etc...same happening all over Europe. Although Cameron is solely not to blame for this, he was quite overzealous in applying it !
His ideological and misguided austerity pushed the protest vote. He killed economic growth and public finances, brought us back child poverty and food banks, and gifted us Brexit for self interest of internal party politics. You are either oblivious or delusional. I don't know why you keep bringing up the subject of austerity and economic growth, poverty, food banks etc. etc. The EU question would have still been around regardless of economic growth or lack thereof. The UKIP brigade along with their anti-immigrant and anti-Europe stance don't just disappear because the economy is doing well or because there is no child poverty. Speculating as to whether the referendum would have happened in another context is a bit pointless though. The fact remains that Cameron triggered it, for personal gain.end of. The other fact remains that austerity policies favour extremists like UKIP by breeding a combination of poverty, anger, fear, individualism, lack of education etc...same happening all over Europe. Although Cameron is solely not to blame for this, he was quite overzealous in applying it ! |
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Jan 21, 2019 14:01:37 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on Jan 21, 2019 14:01:37 GMT 1, His ideological and misguided austerity pushed the protest vote. He killed economic growth and public finances, brought us back child poverty and food banks, and gifted us Brexit for self interest of internal party politics. You are either oblivious or delusional. I don't know why you keep bringing up the subject of austerity and economic growth, poverty, food banks etc. etc. The EU question would have still been around regardless of economic growth or lack thereof. The UKIP brigade along with their anti-immigrant and anti-Europe stance don't just disappear because the economy is doing well or because there is no child poverty.
The success of the economy and anti immigrant sentiment are intertwined. Just as it is with crime, mental health and many other issues. The anti EU brigade have taken advantage of it, and whipped up the xenophobia by laying the blame firmly at the door of foreigners. That tactic would've been much harder if we weren't living through austerity.
His ideological and misguided austerity pushed the protest vote. He killed economic growth and public finances, brought us back child poverty and food banks, and gifted us Brexit for self interest of internal party politics. You are either oblivious or delusional. I don't know why you keep bringing up the subject of austerity and economic growth, poverty, food banks etc. etc. The EU question would have still been around regardless of economic growth or lack thereof. The UKIP brigade along with their anti-immigrant and anti-Europe stance don't just disappear because the economy is doing well or because there is no child poverty. The success of the economy and anti immigrant sentiment are intertwined. Just as it is with crime, mental health and many other issues. The anti EU brigade have taken advantage of it, and whipped up the xenophobia by laying the blame firmly at the door of foreigners. That tactic would've been much harder if we weren't living through austerity. |
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Brexit, by Chris JL on Jan 21, 2019 14:06:46 GMT 1, His ideological and misguided austerity pushed the protest vote. He killed economic growth and public finances, brought us back child poverty and food banks, and gifted us Brexit for self interest of internal party politics. You are either oblivious or delusional. I don't know why you keep bringing up the subject of austerity and economic growth, poverty, food banks etc. etc. The EU question would have still been around regardless of economic growth or lack thereof. The UKIP brigade along with their anti-immigrant and anti-Europe stance don't just disappear because the economy is doing well or because there is no child poverty.
Because every pool and empirical study shows protesting austerity as one of the main reasons of the protest vote. I’m not sure why you can’t get it, really.
Even in this very forum people have been justifying their leave vote as being against EU [sic] austerity (just check above).
Furthermore, his tweet — and your post — mentions strength. And his austerity killed growth and public finances, and brought poverty — ie weakened the country by any tangible measure. Can you read (his and your statements) at least?
His ideological and misguided austerity pushed the protest vote. He killed economic growth and public finances, brought us back child poverty and food banks, and gifted us Brexit for self interest of internal party politics. You are either oblivious or delusional. I don't know why you keep bringing up the subject of austerity and economic growth, poverty, food banks etc. etc. The EU question would have still been around regardless of economic growth or lack thereof. The UKIP brigade along with their anti-immigrant and anti-Europe stance don't just disappear because the economy is doing well or because there is no child poverty. Because every pool and empirical study shows protesting austerity as one of the main reasons of the protest vote. I’m not sure why you can’t get it, really. Even in this very forum people have been justifying their leave vote as being against EU [sic] austerity (just check above). Furthermore, his tweet — and your post — mentions strength. And his austerity killed growth and public finances, and brought poverty — ie weakened the country by any tangible measure. Can you read (his and your statements) at least? |
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Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 15:55:15 GMT 1, I don't know why you keep bringing up the subject of austerity and economic growth, poverty, food banks etc. etc. The EU question would have still been around regardless of economic growth or lack thereof. The UKIP brigade along with their anti-immigrant and anti-Europe stance don't just disappear because the economy is doing well or because there is no child poverty. Because every pool and empirical study shows protesting austerity as one of the main reasons of the protest vote. I’m not sure why you can’t get it, really. Even in this very forum people have been justifying their leave vote as being against EU [sic] austerity (just check above). Furthermore, his tweet — and your post — mentions strength. And his austerity killed growth and public finances, and brought poverty — ie weakened the country by any tangible measure. Can you read (his and your statements) at least?
I don't know why you keep bringing up the subject of austerity and economic growth, poverty, food banks etc. etc. The EU question would have still been around regardless of economic growth or lack thereof. The UKIP brigade along with their anti-immigrant and anti-Europe stance don't just disappear because the economy is doing well or because there is no child poverty. Because every pool and empirical study shows protesting austerity as one of the main reasons of the protest vote. I’m not sure why you can’t get it, really. Even in this very forum people have been justifying their leave vote as being against EU [sic] austerity (just check above). Furthermore, his tweet — and your post — mentions strength. And his austerity killed growth and public finances, and brought poverty — ie weakened the country by any tangible measure. Can you read (his and your statements) at least? May I respectfully point out that austerity measures implemented by the government came after the rise of UKIP and anti-EU sentiments, not before. Chronology is important here. |
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So let me get this straight. Paul Weller and other pop stars don't like David Cameron (no surprise there). Therefore David Cameron is a bad person. And the worst "argument of the week" award goes to... |
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Jan 21, 2019 16:20:15 GMT 1
Brexit, by mojo on Jan 21, 2019 16:20:15 GMT 1, So let me get this straight. Paul Weller and other pop stars don't like David Cameron (no surprise there). Therefore David Cameron is a bad person. And the worst "argument of the week" award goes to...
This is just another example of educated, successful, sentient beings that happen to be musicians/artists or 'pop stars' as you prefer to call them expressing their confusion and disdain that someone of Cameron's ilk would be interested in listening to their music since their lyrics are against everything he stands for. It once again proves him to be a hypocrite and a bit thick.
*also just checking you do know that if you press on the links it takes you to the related articles?
So let me get this straight. Paul Weller and other pop stars don't like David Cameron (no surprise there). Therefore David Cameron is a bad person. And the worst "argument of the week" award goes to... ...YOU! This is just another example of educated, successful, sentient beings that happen to be musicians/artists or 'pop stars' as you prefer to call them expressing their confusion and disdain that someone of Cameron's ilk would be interested in listening to their music since their lyrics are against everything he stands for. It once again proves him to be a hypocrite and a bit thick. *also just checking you do know that if you press on the links it takes you to the related articles? |
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Brexit, by Chris JL on Jan 21, 2019 16:35:27 GMT 1, Because every pool and empirical study shows protesting austerity as one of the main reasons of the protest vote. I’m not sure why you can’t get it, really. Even in this very forum people have been justifying their leave vote as being against EU [sic] austerity (just check above). Furthermore, his tweet — and your post — mentions strength. And his austerity killed growth and public finances, and brought poverty — ie weakened the country by any tangible measure. Can you read (his and your statements) at least? May I respectfully point out that austerity measures implemented by the government came after the rise of UKIP and anti-EU sentiments, not before. Chronology is important here.
But the vote happened after 🤦♂️
Nobody says that Cameron invented UKIP, but only that their misguided policies pushed the protest vote over the 50% boundary in favour of the leave camp.
Not 🚀 science.
Because every pool and empirical study shows protesting austerity as one of the main reasons of the protest vote. I’m not sure why you can’t get it, really. Even in this very forum people have been justifying their leave vote as being against EU [sic] austerity (just check above). Furthermore, his tweet — and your post — mentions strength. And his austerity killed growth and public finances, and brought poverty — ie weakened the country by any tangible measure. Can you read (his and your statements) at least? May I respectfully point out that austerity measures implemented by the government came after the rise of UKIP and anti-EU sentiments, not before. Chronology is important here. But the vote happened after 🤦♂️ Nobody says that Cameron invented UKIP, but only that their misguided policies pushed the protest vote over the 50% boundary in favour of the leave camp. Not 🚀 science. |
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Jan 21, 2019 16:53:15 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Schrödinger's Chat on Jan 21, 2019 16:53:15 GMT 1, Sounds like the £65 application fee for settled status has already been revoked, or will be imminently.
Sounds like the £65 application fee for settled status has already been revoked, or will be imminently.
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Jan 21, 2019 16:56:10 GMT 1
Brexit, by Happy Shopper on Jan 21, 2019 16:56:10 GMT 1, Sounds like the £65 application fee for settled status has already been revoked, or will be imminently.
Wife tried to do it today... you have to have an android phone with contactless payment function!!
Or, register at Hackney Council (apparently only council office in London with the facility to do it!), but not until 29th March!
Chaos...
Sounds like the £65 application fee for settled status has already been revoked, or will be imminently. Wife tried to do it today... you have to have an android phone with contactless payment function!! Or, register at Hackney Council (apparently only council office in London with the facility to do it!), but not until 29th March! Chaos... |
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Jan 21, 2019 17:03:22 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 17:03:22 GMT 1, So let me get this straight. Paul Weller and other pop stars don't like David Cameron (no surprise there). Therefore David Cameron is a bad person. And the worst "argument of the week" award goes to... ...YOU! This is just another example of educated, successful, sentient beings that happen to be musicians/artists or 'pop stars' as you prefer to call them expressing their confusion and disdain that someone of Cameron's ilk would be interested in listening to their music since their lyrics are against everything he stands for. It once again proves him to be a hypocrite and a bit thick. *also just checking you do know that if you press on the links it takes you to the related articles?
I assure you that I, for one, don't give a monkeys.
So let me get this straight. Paul Weller and other pop stars don't like David Cameron (no surprise there). Therefore David Cameron is a bad person. And the worst "argument of the week" award goes to... ...YOU! This is just another example of educated, successful, sentient beings that happen to be musicians/artists or 'pop stars' as you prefer to call them expressing their confusion and disdain that someone of Cameron's ilk would be interested in listening to their music since their lyrics are against everything he stands for. It once again proves him to be a hypocrite and a bit thick. *also just checking you do know that if you press on the links it takes you to the related articles? I think you are missing the fundamental point here. Why should I (or anyone else for that matter) take any notice of what a pop star/singer/film star/tv celebrity thinks? I assure you that I, for one, don't give a monkeys. |
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Brexit
Jan 21, 2019 17:25:08 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Schrödinger's Chat on Jan 21, 2019 17:25:08 GMT 1, Sounds like the £65 application fee for settled status has already been revoked, or will be imminently. Wife tried to do it today... you have to have an android phone with contactless payment function!! Or, register at Hackney Council (apparently only council office in London with the facility to do it!), but not until 29th March! Chaos...
I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is).
My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine.
It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc.
I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials.
Sounds like the £65 application fee for settled status has already been revoked, or will be imminently. Wife tried to do it today... you have to have an android phone with contactless payment function!! Or, register at Hackney Council (apparently only council office in London with the facility to do it!), but not until 29th March! Chaos... I heard that, has to be an android phone that's less than 2 years old with nfc (whatever that is). My partner has not tried yet, probably wait until the dust settles and they sort out the gremlins in the machine. It's all a bit unwelcoming when you have made your home here, paid all your taxes here, studied here, raised your children here, run businesses here etc. I think charging £65, and taking fingerprints and photos just felt like yet another kick in the proverbials. |
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