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May 17, 2019 23:49:22 GMT 1
Brexit, by rebate on May 17, 2019 23:49:22 GMT 1, Well no, thats why the pollsters have been so naff for ages. But you can take all the available data and build a likely picture of the outcome. Thats why i wondered what you were seeing in the locals that made you think Corbyn will never run the country. But you veered off on a hate binge instead. Which is a bit irrelevant. For one thing he takes money from and supports the Iranian regime. I do not think he is fit to run any country let alone the UK. What attributes does Corbyn have ?
Well no, thats why the pollsters have been so naff for ages. But you can take all the available data and build a likely picture of the outcome. Thats why i wondered what you were seeing in the locals that made you think Corbyn will never run the country. But you veered off on a hate binge instead. Which is a bit irrelevant. For one thing he takes money from and supports the Iranian regime. I do not think he is fit to run any country let alone the UK. What attributes does Corbyn have ? You do like to use present tense when you really shouldnt dont you. Another standard attempt to confuse the reality of a situation. In 2009 he did some interviews on Iranian TV, pushing for better human rights! He severed ties after the green revolution and the way it was put down. You really are only capable of spewing utter garbage arent you. |
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May 18, 2019 9:13:47 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on May 18, 2019 9:13:47 GMT 1, Corbyns handling of brexit (from labours standpoint) has been a huge dereliction of duty, huge, he stands with the worst of the disaster capitalists, And this is said as a labour man 😔
Corbyns handling of brexit (from labours standpoint) has been a huge dereliction of duty, huge, he stands with the worst of the disaster capitalists, And this is said as a labour man 😔 Even in their latest EU referendum manifesto, they are still sitting on the fence. It says that "if x, y and z don't happen then a second referendum is an option". WTF does 'option' mean? Is seems they *still* can't make up their mind! As someone once said; if you stand in the middle of the road, sooner of later you will get run over. |
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May 18, 2019 9:23:04 GMT 1
Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 9:23:04 GMT 1, Corbyns handling of brexit (from labours standpoint) has been a huge dereliction of duty, huge, he stands with the worst of the disaster capitalists, And this is said as a labour man 😔 Even in their latest EU referendum manifesto, they are still sitting on the fence. It says that "if x, y and z don't happen then a second referendum is an option". WTF does 'option' mean? Is seems they *still* can't make up their mind! As someone (John Cage?) once said; if you stand in the middle of the road, sooner of later you will get run over.
So who would you put in charge of the country and brexit if there was a GE? Based on everything you know, who will be best fit to run the country for a better future?
Corbyns handling of brexit (from labours standpoint) has been a huge dereliction of duty, huge, he stands with the worst of the disaster capitalists, And this is said as a labour man 😔 Even in their latest EU referendum manifesto, they are still sitting on the fence. It says that "if x, y and z don't happen then a second referendum is an option". WTF does 'option' mean? Is seems they *still* can't make up their mind! As someone (John Cage?) once said; if you stand in the middle of the road, sooner of later you will get run over. "if you stand in the middle of the road, sooner of later you will get run over." So who would you put in charge of the country and brexit if there was a GE? Based on everything you know, who will be best fit to run the country for a better future? |
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May 18, 2019 9:26:27 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on May 18, 2019 9:26:27 GMT 1, I have just received a UKIP EU election leaflet through my letterbox. No surprises there then...except it has my full name and address on it! I despise UKIP and loathe the idea that they have my name on their database. Is there anything I can do to get them to delete my details? And how did they get them in the first place? I have never voted UKIP and I never will. They are a bunch of fascist thugs, just like their new spokesman, ex-BNP leader Tommy Robinson.
Can I do anything about this?
I have just received a UKIP EU election leaflet through my letterbox. No surprises there then...except it has my full name and address on it! I despise UKIP and loathe the idea that they have my name on their database. Is there anything I can do to get them to delete my details? And how did they get them in the first place? I have never voted UKIP and I never will. They are a bunch of fascist thugs, just like their new spokesman, ex-BNP leader Tommy Robinson.
Can I do anything about this?
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May 18, 2019 9:29:20 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on May 18, 2019 9:29:20 GMT 1, Even in their latest EU referendum manifesto, they are still sitting on the fence. It says that "if x, y and z don't happen then a second referendum is an option". WTF does 'option' mean? Is seems they *still* can't make up their mind! As someone (John Cage?) once said; if you stand in the middle of the road, sooner of later you will get run over. "if you stand in the middle of the road, sooner of later you will get run over." So who would you put in charge of the country and brexit if there was a GE? Based on everything you know, who will be best fit to run the country for a better future?
Even in their latest EU referendum manifesto, they are still sitting on the fence. It says that "if x, y and z don't happen then a second referendum is an option". WTF does 'option' mean? Is seems they *still* can't make up their mind! As someone (John Cage?) once said; if you stand in the middle of the road, sooner of later you will get run over. "if you stand in the middle of the road, sooner of later you will get run over." So who would you put in charge of the country and brexit if there was a GE? Based on everything you know, who will be best fit to run the country for a better future? My point isn't about running the country. My point is that Corbyn needs to get off the fence and grow a pair! - particularly if he wants to run the country. |
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May 18, 2019 9:34:22 GMT 1
Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 9:34:22 GMT 1, I have just received a UKIP EU election leaflet through my letterbox. No surprises there then...except it has my full name and address on it! I despise UKIP and loathe the idea that they have my name on their database. Is there anything I can do to get them to delete my details? And how did they get them in the first place? I have never voted UKIP and I never will. They are a bunch of fascist thugs, just like their new spokesman, ex-BNP leader Tommy Robinson. Can I do anything about this?
I have just received a UKIP EU election leaflet through my letterbox. No surprises there then...except it has my full name and address on it! I despise UKIP and loathe the idea that they have my name on their database. Is there anything I can do to get them to delete my details? And how did they get them in the first place? I have never voted UKIP and I never will. They are a bunch of fascist thugs, just like their new spokesman, ex-BNP leader Tommy Robinson. Can I do anything about this? Nope. They have a right to access the official electoral register i think. Im not on the regular list thing (you can opt out of it, its publicly for sale) and they still send them to me. Just rip it into little pieces or burn it, its what i do, and its all we can do. |
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May 18, 2019 9:36:48 GMT 1
Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 9:36:48 GMT 1, "if you stand in the middle of the road, sooner of later you will get run over." So who would you put in charge of the country and brexit if there was a GE? Based on everything you know, who will be best fit to run the country for a better future? My point isn't about running the country. My point is that Corbyn needs to get off the fence and grow a pair! - particularly if he wants to run the country.
"if you stand in the middle of the road, sooner of later you will get run over." So who would you put in charge of the country and brexit if there was a GE? Based on everything you know, who will be best fit to run the country for a better future? My point isn't about running the country. My point is that Corbyn needs to get off the fence and grow a pair! - particularly if he wants to run the country. Im just digging a bit deeper to see what you think. Im guessing at the crunch point, you would vote Corbyn as whatever you think about this, he is the only option for our future, the rest just ruin it. Greens ok, but they just wont get the votes. |
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May 18, 2019 10:15:36 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on May 18, 2019 10:15:36 GMT 1, My point isn't about running the country. My point is that Corbyn needs to get off the fence and grow a pair! - particularly if he wants to run the country. Im just digging a bit deeper to see what you think. Im guessing at the crunch point, you would vote Corbyn as whatever you think about this, he is the only option for our future, the rest just ruin it. Greens ok, but they just wont get the votes.
I would like to see the Green Party in government but I realise that will never happen. But in a two-horse race, I would still vote Tory rather than a Corbyn-led Labour Party.
My point isn't about running the country. My point is that Corbyn needs to get off the fence and grow a pair! - particularly if he wants to run the country. Im just digging a bit deeper to see what you think. Im guessing at the crunch point, you would vote Corbyn as whatever you think about this, he is the only option for our future, the rest just ruin it. Greens ok, but they just wont get the votes. No, I wouldn't vote for Corbyn. I think he would be an unmitigated disaster as prime minister. I would rather have Theresa May for another six years rather than Corbyn; which is saying something. I have been known to vote Labour in the past but there is no way I could bring myself to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I would like to see the Green Party in government but I realise that will never happen. But in a two-horse race, I would still vote Tory rather than a Corbyn-led Labour Party. |
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May 18, 2019 10:18:42 GMT 1
Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 10:18:42 GMT 1, Im just digging a bit deeper to see what you think. Im guessing at the crunch point, you would vote Corbyn as whatever you think about this, he is the only option for our future, the rest just ruin it. Greens ok, but they just wont get the votes. No, I wouldn't vote for Corbyn. I think he would be an unmitigated disaster as prime minister. I would rather have Theresa May for another six years rather than Corbyn; which is saying something. I have been known to vote Labour in the past but there is no way I could bring myself to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I would like to see the Green Party in government but I realise that will never happen. But in a two-horse race, I would still vote Tory rather than a Corbyn-led Labour Party.
Im just digging a bit deeper to see what you think. Im guessing at the crunch point, you would vote Corbyn as whatever you think about this, he is the only option for our future, the rest just ruin it. Greens ok, but they just wont get the votes. No, I wouldn't vote for Corbyn. I think he would be an unmitigated disaster as prime minister. I would rather have Theresa May for another six years rather than Corbyn; which is saying something. I have been known to vote Labour in the past but there is no way I could bring myself to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I would like to see the Green Party in government but I realise that will never happen. But in a two-horse race, I would still vote Tory rather than a Corbyn-led Labour Party. Then you probably arent the right person to talk about incompetence or unmitigated disaster, since you are determined to reelect the most incompetent government in our history. |
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Brexit, by Daylight Robber on May 18, 2019 10:28:15 GMT 1, Im just digging a bit deeper to see what you think. Im guessing at the crunch point, you would vote Corbyn as whatever you think about this, he is the only option for our future, the rest just ruin it. Greens ok, but they just wont get the votes. No, I wouldn't vote for Corbyn. I think he would be an unmitigated disaster as prime minister. I would rather have Theresa May for another six years rather than Corbyn; which is saying something. I have been known to vote Labour in the past but there is no way I could bring myself to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I would like to see the Green Party in government but I realise that will never happen. But in a two-horse race, I would still vote Tory rather than a Corbyn-led Labour Party.
This Tory government have brought the country to its knees. They've been an unmitigated disaster when it comes to most domestic, foreign and economic policy. I'd love to hear what exactly a Corbyn led Labour party would do which would be worse.
Im just digging a bit deeper to see what you think. Im guessing at the crunch point, you would vote Corbyn as whatever you think about this, he is the only option for our future, the rest just ruin it. Greens ok, but they just wont get the votes. No, I wouldn't vote for Corbyn. I think he would be an unmitigated disaster as prime minister. I would rather have Theresa May for another six years rather than Corbyn; which is saying something. I have been known to vote Labour in the past but there is no way I could bring myself to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I would like to see the Green Party in government but I realise that will never happen. But in a two-horse race, I would still vote Tory rather than a Corbyn-led Labour Party. This Tory government have brought the country to its knees. They've been an unmitigated disaster when it comes to most domestic, foreign and economic policy. I'd love to hear what exactly a Corbyn led Labour party would do which would be worse. |
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May 18, 2019 11:06:32 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on May 18, 2019 11:06:32 GMT 1, No, I wouldn't vote for Corbyn. I think he would be an unmitigated disaster as prime minister. I would rather have Theresa May for another six years rather than Corbyn; which is saying something. I have been known to vote Labour in the past but there is no way I could bring myself to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I would like to see the Green Party in government but I realise that will never happen. But in a two-horse race, I would still vote Tory rather than a Corbyn-led Labour Party. Then you probably arent the right person to talk about incompetence or unmitigated disaster, since you are determined to reelect the most incompetent government in our history.
No, I wouldn't vote for Corbyn. I think he would be an unmitigated disaster as prime minister. I would rather have Theresa May for another six years rather than Corbyn; which is saying something. I have been known to vote Labour in the past but there is no way I could bring myself to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I would like to see the Green Party in government but I realise that will never happen. But in a two-horse race, I would still vote Tory rather than a Corbyn-led Labour Party. Then you probably arent the right person to talk about incompetence or unmitigated disaster, since you are determined to reelect the most incompetent government in our history. You think you've seen incompetence? Wait till we get a Corbyn government. You aint seen nothing yet. |
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May 18, 2019 11:21:45 GMT 1
Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 11:21:45 GMT 1, Then you probably arent the right person to talk about incompetence or unmitigated disaster, since you are determined to reelect the most incompetent government in our history. You think you've seen incompetence? Wait till we get a Corbyn government. You aint seen nothing yet.
Forward the revolution n all that.
Then you probably arent the right person to talk about incompetence or unmitigated disaster, since you are determined to reelect the most incompetent government in our history. You think you've seen incompetence? Wait till we get a Corbyn government. You aint seen nothing yet. Yeah right oh. i wonder how loud you will shout when they do take over and the classification for full time employment is changed from 1 hour per week back to over 25 hours (or something actually realistic) and the figures for unemployment go up. Youll be screaming like a deranged banshee that labour have made xxxxx amount of people unemployed even though not one person would have lost their job. You really are just lost in a cloud of bullshit arent you. Doesnt really matter though, shout all you like, its going to be a Corbyn government, and it will be hard to fix whats left after the self obsessed tory cretins are outed, but they will do it. Days of big money ruling us are basically over thanks to their outright greed, incompetence and ignorance. Forward the revolution n all that. |
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May 18, 2019 11:23:13 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on May 18, 2019 11:23:13 GMT 1, No, I wouldn't vote for Corbyn. I think he would be an unmitigated disaster as prime minister. I would rather have Theresa May for another six years rather than Corbyn; which is saying something. I have been known to vote Labour in the past but there is no way I could bring myself to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I would like to see the Green Party in government but I realise that will never happen. But in a two-horse race, I would still vote Tory rather than a Corbyn-led Labour Party. This Tory government have brought the country to its knees. They've been an unmitigated disaster when it comes to most domestic, foreign and economic policy. I'd love to hear what exactly a Corbyn led Labour party would do which would be worse.
1. Spend billions that they do not have.
2. Increased taxes on the businesses and high earners encouraging them to move abroad - making even less money available for the government to spend on things like welfare benefits.
3. Giving free travel to young people - giving even less money to maintain a decent public transport system.
4. Nationalising many industries which, in predicted downturns of the economy, will simply be left to collapse through lack of investment.
5. Giving huge powers to trade unions which will inevitably needs to many strikes and industrial action. And, of course, as they have such a long and economic link with the Labour Party, Corbyn will be obliged to give in to *all* their demands each and every time - which will increase prices for everyone.
6. Doubling the minimum wage for young people, which will have the effect of small business going out of business - which will have the effect of increasing the welfare budget and simultaneously reducing the amount of income tax the government received from businesses.
7. Discouraging enterprise and innovation, making it harder for small businesses to start up; businesses that would increase employment and increase tax revenues.
Socialism sounds all well and good on paper but it simply does not work. History has shown us this to be the case time and time again.
No, I wouldn't vote for Corbyn. I think he would be an unmitigated disaster as prime minister. I would rather have Theresa May for another six years rather than Corbyn; which is saying something. I have been known to vote Labour in the past but there is no way I could bring myself to vote for Jeremy Corbyn. I would like to see the Green Party in government but I realise that will never happen. But in a two-horse race, I would still vote Tory rather than a Corbyn-led Labour Party. This Tory government have brought the country to its knees. They've been an unmitigated disaster when it comes to most domestic, foreign and economic policy. I'd love to hear what exactly a Corbyn led Labour party would do which would be worse. Just a few things that spring to mind... 1. Spend billions that they do not have. 2. Increased taxes on the businesses and high earners encouraging them to move abroad - making even less money available for the government to spend on things like welfare benefits. 3. Giving free travel to young people - giving even less money to maintain a decent public transport system. 4. Nationalising many industries which, in predicted downturns of the economy, will simply be left to collapse through lack of investment. 5. Giving huge powers to trade unions which will inevitably needs to many strikes and industrial action. And, of course, as they have such a long and economic link with the Labour Party, Corbyn will be obliged to give in to *all* their demands each and every time - which will increase prices for everyone. 6. Doubling the minimum wage for young people, which will have the effect of small business going out of business - which will have the effect of increasing the welfare budget and simultaneously reducing the amount of income tax the government received from businesses. 7. Discouraging enterprise and innovation, making it harder for small businesses to start up; businesses that would increase employment and increase tax revenues. Socialism sounds all well and good on paper but it simply does not work. History has shown us this to be the case time and time again. |
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Brexit, by Chris JL on May 18, 2019 11:30:44 GMT 1, rebate in all honesty, even despising the current government and crop of Tory for their incompetence and delusional hubris, I’m under the impression that Corbyn hasn’t been helping much Labour gain popularity...
I recently had dinner with several intellectuals that are Labour Party members, and the consensus there was that even a sack of potatoes, as Labour leader, would defeat the Tory hands down... but Corbyn clearly isn’t... and partly because he has been systematically betraying his own party position on Brexit.
The EU election is an example of it: most registered Labour people I know (a biased sample off course) will NOT be voting Labour, and Labour is pooling much weaker than it should (and nowhere near what would be needed to win a GE).
And before you ask: in order to vote, I’ll just check the best option for tactical voting ie I’ll vote the best shot at electing a people’s vote candidate (Green, Lib Dem or whatever). And I know a ton of registered Labour people (in London at least) that will do exactly the same.
Btw, this is very unlikely despite Labour’s poor pooling, but if you don’t mind me asking: if Labour were to get fewer seats than under Miliband in 2014, do you think Corbyn should resign? That would be the 3rd defeat in a row under his stewardship...
rebate in all honesty, even despising the current government and crop of Tory for their incompetence and delusional hubris, I’m under the impression that Corbyn hasn’t been helping much Labour gain popularity... I recently had dinner with several intellectuals that are Labour Party members, and the consensus there was that even a sack of potatoes, as Labour leader, would defeat the Tory hands down... but Corbyn clearly isn’t... and partly because he has been systematically betraying his own party position on Brexit. The EU election is an example of it: most registered Labour people I know (a biased sample off course) will NOT be voting Labour, and Labour is pooling much weaker than it should (and nowhere near what would be needed to win a GE). And before you ask: in order to vote, I’ll just check the best option for tactical voting ie I’ll vote the best shot at electing a people’s vote candidate (Green, Lib Dem or whatever). And I know a ton of registered Labour people (in London at least) that will do exactly the same. Btw, this is very unlikely despite Labour’s poor pooling, but if you don’t mind me asking: if Labour were to get fewer seats than under Miliband in 2014, do you think Corbyn should resign? That would be the 3rd defeat in a row under his stewardship...
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May 18, 2019 11:38:58 GMT 1
Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 11:38:58 GMT 1, This Tory government have brought the country to its knees. They've been an unmitigated disaster when it comes to most domestic, foreign and economic policy. I'd love to hear what exactly a Corbyn led Labour party would do which would be worse. Just a few things that spring to mind... 1. Spend billions that they do not have. WILL BE TAKEN FROM OVER DUE TAXES AND INCREASES ON THE SUPER RICH. SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BY THE TORIES. 2. Increased taxes on the businesses and high earners encouraging them to move abroad - making even less money available for the government to spend on things like welfare benefits. YES, BUT THE GRAVY TRAIN HAS TO END, AND THEY USE THE SERVICES OUR TAXES PAY FOR SO WHY NOT. MANY HAVE ALREADY MOVED DUE TO THE FUCK UP THAT IS TORY BREXIT, 3000 MILIONAIRES SO FAR WAS THE QUOTE ON THE NEWS. 3. Giving free travel to young people - giving even less money to maintain a decent public transport system. FREE TRAVEL MEANS IT WOULD BE SUBSIDISED, SO THE NETWORK WOULD NOT SUFFER. ALSO, NO SHAREHOLDERS, SO THE NETWORK ALREADY MADE A HUGE GAIN. 4. Nationalising many industries which, in predicted downturns of the economy, will simply be left to collapse through lack of investment. NOTHING TO BACK THIS UP AS FACT AT ALL. INVESTMENT IN RENEWABLES AND THE ABILITY TO ROLL THEM OUT AS A MASS PROJECT WOULD MAKE US SELF SUSTAINING, AND INCREDIBLY COST EFFECTIVE. MAKING IT MASSIVELY BENEFICIAL FOR END USERS AND BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. 5. Giving huge powers to trade unions which will inevitably needs to many strikes and industrial action. And, of course, as they have such a long and economic link with the Labour Party, Corbyn will be obliged to give in to *all* their demands each and every time - which will increase prices for everyone. REDRESSING THE BALANCE AFTER SUCH A LONG TIME OF THE MONEYED FEW TAKING THE PISS OUT OF THE POPULATION TAKES A LOT OF DOING, BUT IF THEY DECIDE TO PLAY FAIR ITS SIMPLE. CORBYN DOESNT OPERATE LIKE THAT, THATS HOW THE PAID FOR TORIES WORK, HE DOES WHATS BEST FOR THE MANY. 6. Doubling the minimum wage for young people, which will have the effect of small business going out of business - which will have the effect of increasing the welfare budget and simultaneously reducing the amount of income tax the government received from businesses. THEY DO THE SAME WORK AS ANYONE ELSE, BUT KEEP FIGHTING FOR INEQUALITY TO THE BENEFIT OF THOSE RUNNING BUSINESSES. THIS HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT EVERY MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE SINCE IT INCEPTION, TOTAL BOLLOX BASED MAINLY ON GREED. 7. Discouraging enterprise and innovation, making it harder for small businesses to start up; businesses that would increase employment and increase tax revenues. THEY WANT TO START AN INVESTMENT SYSTEM TO HELP SME AND START UPS. USING PUBLIC MONEY TO INVEST. Socialism sounds all well and good on paper but it simply does not work. History has shown us this to be the case time and time again. JUNK SPEAK, ALL OF IT.
This Tory government have brought the country to its knees. They've been an unmitigated disaster when it comes to most domestic, foreign and economic policy. I'd love to hear what exactly a Corbyn led Labour party would do which would be worse. Just a few things that spring to mind... 1. Spend billions that they do not have. WILL BE TAKEN FROM OVER DUE TAXES AND INCREASES ON THE SUPER RICH. SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BY THE TORIES. 2. Increased taxes on the businesses and high earners encouraging them to move abroad - making even less money available for the government to spend on things like welfare benefits. YES, BUT THE GRAVY TRAIN HAS TO END, AND THEY USE THE SERVICES OUR TAXES PAY FOR SO WHY NOT. MANY HAVE ALREADY MOVED DUE TO THE FUCK UP THAT IS TORY BREXIT, 3000 MILIONAIRES SO FAR WAS THE QUOTE ON THE NEWS. 3. Giving free travel to young people - giving even less money to maintain a decent public transport system. FREE TRAVEL MEANS IT WOULD BE SUBSIDISED, SO THE NETWORK WOULD NOT SUFFER. ALSO, NO SHAREHOLDERS, SO THE NETWORK ALREADY MADE A HUGE GAIN. 4. Nationalising many industries which, in predicted downturns of the economy, will simply be left to collapse through lack of investment. NOTHING TO BACK THIS UP AS FACT AT ALL. INVESTMENT IN RENEWABLES AND THE ABILITY TO ROLL THEM OUT AS A MASS PROJECT WOULD MAKE US SELF SUSTAINING, AND INCREDIBLY COST EFFECTIVE. MAKING IT MASSIVELY BENEFICIAL FOR END USERS AND BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. 5. Giving huge powers to trade unions which will inevitably needs to many strikes and industrial action. And, of course, as they have such a long and economic link with the Labour Party, Corbyn will be obliged to give in to *all* their demands each and every time - which will increase prices for everyone. REDRESSING THE BALANCE AFTER SUCH A LONG TIME OF THE MONEYED FEW TAKING THE PISS OUT OF THE POPULATION TAKES A LOT OF DOING, BUT IF THEY DECIDE TO PLAY FAIR ITS SIMPLE. CORBYN DOESNT OPERATE LIKE THAT, THATS HOW THE PAID FOR TORIES WORK, HE DOES WHATS BEST FOR THE MANY. 6. Doubling the minimum wage for young people, which will have the effect of small business going out of business - which will have the effect of increasing the welfare budget and simultaneously reducing the amount of income tax the government received from businesses. THEY DO THE SAME WORK AS ANYONE ELSE, BUT KEEP FIGHTING FOR INEQUALITY TO THE BENEFIT OF THOSE RUNNING BUSINESSES. THIS HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT EVERY MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE SINCE IT INCEPTION, TOTAL BOLLOX BASED MAINLY ON GREED. 7. Discouraging enterprise and innovation, making it harder for small businesses to start up; businesses that would increase employment and increase tax revenues. THEY WANT TO START AN INVESTMENT SYSTEM TO HELP SME AND START UPS. USING PUBLIC MONEY TO INVEST. Socialism sounds all well and good on paper but it simply does not work. History has shown us this to be the case time and time again. JUNK SPEAK, ALL OF IT. |
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May 18, 2019 11:52:45 GMT 1
Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 11:52:45 GMT 1, rebate in all honesty, even despising the current government and crop of Tory for their incompetence and delusional hubris, I’m under the impression that Corbyn hasn’t been helping much Labour gain popularity... I recently had dinner with several intellectuals that are Labour Party members, and the consensus there was that even a sack of potatoes, as Labour leader, would defeat the Tory hands down... but Corbyn clearly isn’t... and partly because he has been systematically betraying his own party position on Brexit. The EU election is an example of it: most registered Labour people I know (a biased sample off course) will NOT be voting Labour, and Labour is pooling much weaker than it should (and nowhere near what would be needed to win a GE). And before you ask: in order to vote, I’ll just check the best option for tactical voting ie I’ll vote the best shot at electing a people’s vote candidate (Green, Lib Dem or whatever). And I know a ton of registered Labour people (in London at least) that will do exactly the same. Btw, this is very unlikely despite Labour poor pooling, but if you don’t mind me asking: if Labour were to get fewer seats than under Miliband in 2014, do you think Corbyn should resign? That would be the 3rd defeat in a row under his stewardship...
lib dem green etc, cool, throw away your vote to whoever happens to win. as thats the outcome of voting for a party that just cant win under any calculation.
Tough call on weather he should resign if defeated, id be more disappointed in the electorate than him though. At the same time if he cant win them over then i guess the party would force the issue. Not something i can see happening though.
Lib dems seem to have decided outright revocation could be more profitable, Vince is out canvassing for votes in er............. Gibraltar.
If what you say about the labour voters you know is true, its very sad. The EU elections should be used to send a message of support to labour and a message that they are ready to dismantle the tories in an election. This pointless protest voting only serves to prolong the agony of a truelys**t tory government. Its bloody idiotic really.
Corbyn has had a massive impact on the increased number of members and voters, and has changed the party back to what its roots are. He has been a sea change in the right direction for labour. I can see the next GE being a demolision of the tories, maybe with a large rise in vote share for others, but that makes no difference. The labour support and ethos are very strong, and the next GE is in the bag i think.
rebate in all honesty, even despising the current government and crop of Tory for their incompetence and delusional hubris, I’m under the impression that Corbyn hasn’t been helping much Labour gain popularity... I recently had dinner with several intellectuals that are Labour Party members, and the consensus there was that even a sack of potatoes, as Labour leader, would defeat the Tory hands down... but Corbyn clearly isn’t... and partly because he has been systematically betraying his own party position on Brexit. The EU election is an example of it: most registered Labour people I know (a biased sample off course) will NOT be voting Labour, and Labour is pooling much weaker than it should (and nowhere near what would be needed to win a GE). And before you ask: in order to vote, I’ll just check the best option for tactical voting ie I’ll vote the best shot at electing a people’s vote candidate (Green, Lib Dem or whatever). And I know a ton of registered Labour people (in London at least) that will do exactly the same. Btw, this is very unlikely despite Labour poor pooling, but if you don’t mind me asking: if Labour were to get fewer seats than under Miliband in 2014, do you think Corbyn should resign? That would be the 3rd defeat in a row under his stewardship... i find it highly unlikely that intelectuals are likely to hold this opinion "the consensus there was that even a sack of potatoes, as Labour leader, would defeat the Tory hands down... but Corbyn clearly isn’t" so thats a bad start. lib dem green etc, cool, throw away your vote to whoever happens to win. as thats the outcome of voting for a party that just cant win under any calculation. Tough call on weather he should resign if defeated, id be more disappointed in the electorate than him though. At the same time if he cant win them over then i guess the party would force the issue. Not something i can see happening though. Lib dems seem to have decided outright revocation could be more profitable, Vince is out canvassing for votes in er............. Gibraltar. If what you say about the labour voters you know is true, its very sad. The EU elections should be used to send a message of support to labour and a message that they are ready to dismantle the tories in an election. This pointless protest voting only serves to prolong the agony of a truelys**t tory government. Its bloody idiotic really. Corbyn has had a massive impact on the increased number of members and voters, and has changed the party back to what its roots are. He has been a sea change in the right direction for labour. I can see the next GE being a demolision of the tories, maybe with a large rise in vote share for others, but that makes no difference. The labour support and ethos are very strong, and the next GE is in the bag i think. |
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Brexit, by Deleted on May 18, 2019 12:41:54 GMT 1, rebate in all honesty, even despising the current government and crop of Tory for their incompetence and delusional hubris, I’m under the impression that Corbyn hasn’t been helping much Labour gain popularity... I recently had dinner with several intellectuals that are Labour Party members, and the consensus there was that even a sack of potatoes, as Labour leader, would defeat the Tory hands down... but Corbyn clearly isn’t... and partly because he has been systematically betraying his own party position on Brexit. The EU election is an example of it: most registered Labour people I know (a biased sample off course) will NOT be voting Labour, and Labour is pooling much weaker than it should (and nowhere near what would be needed to win a GE). And before you ask: in order to vote, I’ll just check the best option for tactical voting ie I’ll vote the best shot at electing a people’s vote candidate (Green, Lib Dem or whatever). And I know a ton of registered Labour people (in London at least) that will do exactly the same. Btw, this is very unlikely despite Labour poor pooling, but if you don’t mind me asking: if Labour were to get fewer seats than under Miliband in 2014, do you think Corbyn should resign? That would be the 3rd defeat in a row under his stewardship... i find it highly unlikely that intelectuals are likely to hold this opinion "the consensus there was that even a sack of potatoes, as Labour leader, would defeat the Tory hands down... but Corbyn clearly isn’t" so thats a bad start. lib dem green etc, cool, throw away your vote to whoever happens to win. as thats the outcome of voting for a party that just cant win under any calculation. Tough call on weather he should resign if defeated, id be more disappointed in the electorate than him though. At the same time if he cant win them over then i guess the party would force the issue. Not something i can see happening though. Lib dems seem to have decided outright revocation could be more profitable, Vince is out canvassing for votes in er............. Gibraltar. If what you say about the labour voters you know is true, its very sad. The EU elections should be used to send a message of support to labour and a message that they are ready to dismantle the tories in an election. This pointless protest voting only serves to prolong the agony of a truelys**t tory government. Its bloody idiotic really. Corbyn has had a massive impact on the increased number of members and voters, and has changed the party back to what its roots are. He has been a sea change in the right direction for labour. I can see the next GE being a demolision of the tories, maybe with a large rise in vote share for others, but that makes no difference. The labour support and ethos are very strong, and the next GE is in the bag i think.
rebate in all honesty, even despising the current government and crop of Tory for their incompetence and delusional hubris, I’m under the impression that Corbyn hasn’t been helping much Labour gain popularity... I recently had dinner with several intellectuals that are Labour Party members, and the consensus there was that even a sack of potatoes, as Labour leader, would defeat the Tory hands down... but Corbyn clearly isn’t... and partly because he has been systematically betraying his own party position on Brexit. The EU election is an example of it: most registered Labour people I know (a biased sample off course) will NOT be voting Labour, and Labour is pooling much weaker than it should (and nowhere near what would be needed to win a GE). And before you ask: in order to vote, I’ll just check the best option for tactical voting ie I’ll vote the best shot at electing a people’s vote candidate (Green, Lib Dem or whatever). And I know a ton of registered Labour people (in London at least) that will do exactly the same. Btw, this is very unlikely despite Labour poor pooling, but if you don’t mind me asking: if Labour were to get fewer seats than under Miliband in 2014, do you think Corbyn should resign? That would be the 3rd defeat in a row under his stewardship... i find it highly unlikely that intelectuals are likely to hold this opinion "the consensus there was that even a sack of potatoes, as Labour leader, would defeat the Tory hands down... but Corbyn clearly isn’t" so thats a bad start. lib dem green etc, cool, throw away your vote to whoever happens to win. as thats the outcome of voting for a party that just cant win under any calculation. Tough call on weather he should resign if defeated, id be more disappointed in the electorate than him though. At the same time if he cant win them over then i guess the party would force the issue. Not something i can see happening though. Lib dems seem to have decided outright revocation could be more profitable, Vince is out canvassing for votes in er............. Gibraltar. If what you say about the labour voters you know is true, its very sad. The EU elections should be used to send a message of support to labour and a message that they are ready to dismantle the tories in an election. This pointless protest voting only serves to prolong the agony of a truelys**t tory government. Its bloody idiotic really. Corbyn has had a massive impact on the increased number of members and voters, and has changed the party back to what its roots are. He has been a sea change in the right direction for labour. I can see the next GE being a demolision of the tories, maybe with a large rise in vote share for others, but that makes no difference. The labour support and ethos are very strong, and the next GE is in the bag i think. Not with the threat of Diane Abbott being in the cabinet. |
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Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 13:19:21 GMT 1, i find it highly unlikely that intelectuals are likely to hold this opinion "the consensus there was that even a sack of potatoes, as Labour leader, would defeat the Tory hands down... but Corbyn clearly isn’t" so thats a bad start. lib dem green etc, cool, throw away your vote to whoever happens to win. as thats the outcome of voting for a party that just cant win under any calculation. Tough call on weather he should resign if defeated, id be more disappointed in the electorate than him though. At the same time if he cant win them over then i guess the party would force the issue. Not something i can see happening though. Lib dems seem to have decided outright revocation could be more profitable, Vince is out canvassing for votes in er............. Gibraltar. If what you say about the labour voters you know is true, its very sad. The EU elections should be used to send a message of support to labour and a message that they are ready to dismantle the tories in an election. This pointless protest voting only serves to prolong the agony of a truelys**t tory government. Its bloody idiotic really. Corbyn has had a massive impact on the increased number of members and voters, and has changed the party back to what its roots are. He has been a sea change in the right direction for labour. I can see the next GE being a demolision of the tories, maybe with a large rise in vote share for others, but that makes no difference. The labour support and ethos are very strong, and the next GE is in the bag i think. Not with the threat of Diane Abbott being in the cabinet.
If thats all you lot can come up with against labour, id say you probably know you need to vote labour.
you know what they say,
If you want a winner for your neighbour, vote Labour.
I changed that from an old ignorant tory version, that was filled with the usual hate they represent.
i find it highly unlikely that intelectuals are likely to hold this opinion "the consensus there was that even a sack of potatoes, as Labour leader, would defeat the Tory hands down... but Corbyn clearly isn’t" so thats a bad start. lib dem green etc, cool, throw away your vote to whoever happens to win. as thats the outcome of voting for a party that just cant win under any calculation. Tough call on weather he should resign if defeated, id be more disappointed in the electorate than him though. At the same time if he cant win them over then i guess the party would force the issue. Not something i can see happening though. Lib dems seem to have decided outright revocation could be more profitable, Vince is out canvassing for votes in er............. Gibraltar. If what you say about the labour voters you know is true, its very sad. The EU elections should be used to send a message of support to labour and a message that they are ready to dismantle the tories in an election. This pointless protest voting only serves to prolong the agony of a truelys**t tory government. Its bloody idiotic really. Corbyn has had a massive impact on the increased number of members and voters, and has changed the party back to what its roots are. He has been a sea change in the right direction for labour. I can see the next GE being a demolision of the tories, maybe with a large rise in vote share for others, but that makes no difference. The labour support and ethos are very strong, and the next GE is in the bag i think. Not with the threat of Diane Abbott being in the cabinet. Better off with Hammond , who with no other issues present, was £3 billion out on his figures. Or even that cretin greyling in charge, great job he has done of pouring billions down the drain. Nice logic there. And thats before we look at the obvious carnage left of the country after ten years of tory rule.s**ttest government in our history. If thats all you lot can come up with against labour, id say you probably know you need to vote labour. you know what they say, If you want a winner for your neighbour, vote Labour. I changed that from an old ignorant tory version, that was filled with the usual hate they represent. |
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Brexit, by Deleted on May 18, 2019 14:12:59 GMT 1, "If you want a winner for your neighbourhood, vote Labour".
I wonder if that statement stands up to any scrutiny. Presumably by "winner" you mean people are more well off. Has any Labour government been a 'winner' for your (or anyone else's) neighbourhood?
I think you've been reading to many editions of the Daily Star.
"If you want a winner for your neighbourhood, vote Labour".
I wonder if that statement stands up to any scrutiny. Presumably by "winner" you mean people are more well off. Has any Labour government been a 'winner' for your (or anyone else's) neighbourhood?
I think you've been reading to many editions of the Daily Star.
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Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 14:39:53 GMT 1, "If you want a winner for your neighbourhood, vote Labour". I wonder if that statement stands up to any scrutiny. Presumably by "winner" you mean people are more well off. Has any Labour government been a 'winner' for your (or anyone else's) neighbourhood? I think you've been reading to many editions of the Daily Star.
I think when it comes to the likelyhood of more people having winners for neighbours, Labour is clearly the only hope. Tories are only out to decimate the average person and the average neighbourhood, and they have done all they could to prove it. I think you have been walking round with your eyes closed.
Do you know what the tory version of that slogan was? well worth looking it up if you dont, not much has changed, they just found more people to hate.
"If you want a winner for your neighbourhood, vote Labour". I wonder if that statement stands up to any scrutiny. Presumably by "winner" you mean people are more well off. Has any Labour government been a 'winner' for your (or anyone else's) neighbourhood? I think you've been reading to many editions of the Daily Star. Youd be wrong. I think when it comes to the likelyhood of more people having winners for neighbours, Labour is clearly the only hope. Tories are only out to decimate the average person and the average neighbourhood, and they have done all they could to prove it. I think you have been walking round with your eyes closed. Do you know what the tory version of that slogan was? well worth looking it up if you dont, not much has changed, they just found more people to hate. |
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Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 14:56:03 GMT 1, says the master of pointless comment.
says the master of pointless comment. |
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Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 15:19:20 GMT 1, says the master of pointless comment. you are pointless and boring as f**kto boot
says the master of pointless comment. you are pointless and boring as f**kto boot No need to get upset if its all going way over your head. You add nothing as usual. |
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Brexit, by Deleted on May 18, 2019 15:25:34 GMT 1, "If you want a winner for your neighbourhood, vote Labour". I wonder if that statement stands up to any scrutiny. Presumably by "winner" you mean people are more well off. Has any Labour government been a 'winner' for your (or anyone else's) neighbourhood? I think you've been reading to many editions of the Daily Star. Youd be wrong. I think when it comes to the likelyhood of more people having winners for neighbours, Labour is clearly the only hope. Tories are only out to decimate the average person and the average neighbourhood, and they have done all they could to prove it. I think you have been walking round with your eyes closed. Do you know what the tory version of that slogan was? well worth looking it up if you dont, not much has changed, they just found more people to hate.
"If you want a winner for your neighbourhood, vote Labour". I wonder if that statement stands up to any scrutiny. Presumably by "winner" you mean people are more well off. Has any Labour government been a 'winner' for your (or anyone else's) neighbourhood? I think you've been reading to many editions of the Daily Star. Youd be wrong. I think when it comes to the likelyhood of more people having winners for neighbours, Labour is clearly the only hope. Tories are only out to decimate the average person and the average neighbourhood, and they have done all they could to prove it. I think you have been walking round with your eyes closed. Do you know what the tory version of that slogan was? well worth looking it up if you dont, not much has changed, they just found more people to hate. But what I am asking for is some sort of evidence to back up your unquestioning love for Jeremy Corbyn and his Labour Party. What evidence do you have that "Labour is clearly the only hope" when it comes to "neighbourhoods winning"? I don't recall a golden age during previous Labour governments, do you? Anyone can throw out these meaningless platitudes. Corbyn and McDonnell do it all the time. |
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Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 15:34:15 GMT 1, Youd be wrong. I think when it comes to the likelyhood of more people having winners for neighbours, Labour is clearly the only hope. Tories are only out to decimate the average person and the average neighbourhood, and they have done all they could to prove it. I think you have been walking round with your eyes closed. Do you know what the tory version of that slogan was? well worth looking it up if you dont, not much has changed, they just found more people to hate. But what I am asking for is some sort of evidence to back up your unquestioning love for Jeremy Corbyn and his Labour Party. What evidence do you have that "Labour is clearly the only hope" when it comes to "neighbourhoods winning"? I don't recall a golden age during previous Labour governments, do you? Anyone can throw out these meaningless platitudes. Corbyn and McDonnell do it all the time.
Meaningless platitudes? They have the plans behind them to make it happen. I dont see it as meaningless at all.
Would you like to explain who else offers more hope?
Youd be wrong. I think when it comes to the likelyhood of more people having winners for neighbours, Labour is clearly the only hope. Tories are only out to decimate the average person and the average neighbourhood, and they have done all they could to prove it. I think you have been walking round with your eyes closed. Do you know what the tory version of that slogan was? well worth looking it up if you dont, not much has changed, they just found more people to hate. But what I am asking for is some sort of evidence to back up your unquestioning love for Jeremy Corbyn and his Labour Party. What evidence do you have that "Labour is clearly the only hope" when it comes to "neighbourhoods winning"? I don't recall a golden age during previous Labour governments, do you? Anyone can throw out these meaningless platitudes. Corbyn and McDonnell do it all the time. The only other possibility is more tory and under bojo the clown at that. Not sure what else "proof" anyone could need. Their policies and plans are a good guide, Corbyns history of doing the right thing, and being a decent person for the last untold years hes been an MP are another. Until they are in we wont know, but the tories have been in for years and done nothing but damage. The other parties have zero chance in a GE, therefore Labour are the only hope. Meaningless platitudes? They have the plans behind them to make it happen. I dont see it as meaningless at all. Would you like to explain who else offers more hope? |
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Brexit, by Matt on May 18, 2019 16:00:19 GMT 1, But what I am asking for is some sort of evidence to back up your unquestioning love for Jeremy Corbyn and his Labour Party. What evidence do you have that "Labour is clearly the only hope" when it comes to "neighbourhoods winning"? I don't recall a golden age during previous Labour governments, do you? Anyone can throw out these meaningless platitudes. Corbyn and McDonnell do it all the time. The only other possibility is more tory and under bojo the clown at that. Not sure what else "proof" anyone could need. Their policies and plans are a good guide, Corbyns history of doing the right thing, and being a decent person for the last untold years hes been an MP are another. Until they are in we wont know, but the tories have been in for years and done nothing but damage. The other parties have zero chance in a GE, therefore Labour are the only hope. Meaningless platitudes? They have the plans behind them to make it happen. I dont see it as meaningless at all. Would you like to explain who else offers more hope?
You’re a die hard labour fan, we get it, and that’s fine.
But for a tiny second, remove the fan hat, put down the foam finger, and take a rational outside-in look at the situation.
Even under a self destructing, abject Tory government, labour has been absolutely unable to offer an alternative or even a glimpse of hope that they can do better.
They have your vote, and they always have had, but they have failed to convince anyone else...
In essence, faced with absolutely no credible competition they still can’t win (see last elections)
If this doesn’t tell you that something is dead wrong with the party, I don’t know what does.
You can put the hat back on, and the foam finger and wave it all you like, but the failure of labour is as catastrophic and mind blowing that’s that of the lunatic torries.
If I were a labour fan I would be disgusted and pissed off
But what I am asking for is some sort of evidence to back up your unquestioning love for Jeremy Corbyn and his Labour Party. What evidence do you have that "Labour is clearly the only hope" when it comes to "neighbourhoods winning"? I don't recall a golden age during previous Labour governments, do you? Anyone can throw out these meaningless platitudes. Corbyn and McDonnell do it all the time. The only other possibility is more tory and under bojo the clown at that. Not sure what else "proof" anyone could need. Their policies and plans are a good guide, Corbyns history of doing the right thing, and being a decent person for the last untold years hes been an MP are another. Until they are in we wont know, but the tories have been in for years and done nothing but damage. The other parties have zero chance in a GE, therefore Labour are the only hope. Meaningless platitudes? They have the plans behind them to make it happen. I dont see it as meaningless at all. Would you like to explain who else offers more hope? You’re a die hard labour fan, we get it, and that’s fine. But for a tiny second, remove the fan hat, put down the foam finger, and take a rational outside-in look at the situation. Even under a self destructing, abject Tory government, labour has been absolutely unable to offer an alternative or even a glimpse of hope that they can do better. They have your vote, and they always have had, but they have failed to convince anyone else... In essence, faced with absolutely no credible competition they still can’t win (see last elections) If this doesn’t tell you that something is dead wrong with the party, I don’t know what does. You can put the hat back on, and the foam finger and wave it all you like, but the failure of labour is as catastrophic and mind blowing that’s that of the lunatic torries. If I were a labour fan I would be disgusted and pissed off |
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Brexit, by .dappy on May 18, 2019 16:10:21 GMT 1, ... Corbyn was a shït MP for Islington ... his main interest has always been himself and his causes ... I know I grew up in Islington ...
... Corbyn was a shït MP for Islington ... his main interest has always been himself and his causes ... I know I grew up in Islington ...
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Brexit, by k2 on May 18, 2019 16:17:04 GMT 1, ... Corbyn was a shït MP for Islington ... his main interest has always been himself and his causes ... I know I grew up in Islington ...
To be fair, Corbyn has been elected as MP for Islington on 9 occasions. So if he was truly a terrible MP, his constituents have had 8 opportunities to vote him out, but have chosen not to.
In 2017 he received the highest share of the vote he’d ever received there.
... Corbyn was a shït MP for Islington ... his main interest has always been himself and his causes ... I know I grew up in Islington ... To be fair, Corbyn has been elected as MP for Islington on 9 occasions. So if he was truly a terrible MP, his constituents have had 8 opportunities to vote him out, but have chosen not to. In 2017 he received the highest share of the vote he’d ever received there. |
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Brexit, by rebate on May 18, 2019 16:18:40 GMT 1, ... Corbyn was a shït MP for Islington ... his main interest has always been himself and his causes ... I know I grew up in Islington ...
... Corbyn was a shït MP for Islington ... his main interest has always been himself and his causes ... I know I grew up in Islington ... Lol odd that they kept him for so long then. Seems the majority disagree. |
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Brexit, by k2 on May 18, 2019 16:18:41 GMT 1, The only other possibility is more tory and under bojo the clown at that. Not sure what else "proof" anyone could need. Their policies and plans are a good guide, Corbyns history of doing the right thing, and being a decent person for the last untold years hes been an MP are another. Until they are in we wont know, but the tories have been in for years and done nothing but damage. The other parties have zero chance in a GE, therefore Labour are the only hope. Meaningless platitudes? They have the plans behind them to make it happen. I dont see it as meaningless at all. Would you like to explain who else offers more hope? You’re a die hard labour fan, we get it, and that’s fine. But for a tiny second, remove the fan hat, put down the foam finger, and take a rational outside-in look at the situation. Even under a self destructing, abject Tory government, labour has been absolutely unable to offer an alternative or even a glimpse of hope that they can do better. They have your vote, and they always have had, but they have failed to convince anyone else... In essence, faced with absolutely no credible competition they still can’t win (see last elections) If this doesn’t tell you that something is dead wrong with the party, I don’t know what does. You can put the hat back on, and the foam finger and wave it all you like, but the failure of labour is as catastrophic and mind blowing that’s that of the lunatic torries. If I were a labour fan I would be disgusted and pissed off
As a Labour Party member for all of my adult life, and as someone who voted for Corbyn twice, it’s with a heavy heart that I find little to disagree with here.
The only other possibility is more tory and under bojo the clown at that. Not sure what else "proof" anyone could need. Their policies and plans are a good guide, Corbyns history of doing the right thing, and being a decent person for the last untold years hes been an MP are another. Until they are in we wont know, but the tories have been in for years and done nothing but damage. The other parties have zero chance in a GE, therefore Labour are the only hope. Meaningless platitudes? They have the plans behind them to make it happen. I dont see it as meaningless at all. Would you like to explain who else offers more hope? You’re a die hard labour fan, we get it, and that’s fine. But for a tiny second, remove the fan hat, put down the foam finger, and take a rational outside-in look at the situation. Even under a self destructing, abject Tory government, labour has been absolutely unable to offer an alternative or even a glimpse of hope that they can do better. They have your vote, and they always have had, but they have failed to convince anyone else... In essence, faced with absolutely no credible competition they still can’t win (see last elections) If this doesn’t tell you that something is dead wrong with the party, I don’t know what does. You can put the hat back on, and the foam finger and wave it all you like, but the failure of labour is as catastrophic and mind blowing that’s that of the lunatic torries. If I were a labour fan I would be disgusted and pissed off As a Labour Party member for all of my adult life, and as someone who voted for Corbyn twice, it’s with a heavy heart that I find little to disagree with here. |
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