silvermyn
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Brexit, by silvermyn on Jul 26, 2019 7:54:58 GMT 1, Brilliant, keep them coming
Why?! Ignorance is bliss and I want you to be happy 
Brilliant, keep them coming Why?! Ignorance is bliss and I want you to be happy |
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Brexit, by .dappy on Jul 27, 2019 1:38:55 GMT 1, ... winning ... British goods for British people ... who needs trade deals ...
BBC News - Brexit: What trade deals has the UK done so far?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47213842
... winning ... British goods for British people ... who needs trade deals ... BBC News - Brexit: What trade deals has the UK done so far? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47213842 |
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Jul 28, 2019 13:19:47 GMT 1
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Brexit, by sameoldthing on Jul 28, 2019 13:19:47 GMT 1, I hope nothing will change in my day to day life , few more pounds in my pocket maybe The economy of Wales would shrink by up to 10 per cent if Britain leaves the EU without a trade deal, according to an analysis released by the Welsh Government. The study, by the Cardiff Business School, found Wales will be hit disproportionally hard in comparison to other regions if the government takes the UK out of the EU single market and customs union. Major employers in industries such as car manufacturing, steel and aerospace will be especially hit by a hard Brexit, researchers warned. After consulting with dozens of companies, including several key employers, they found “few firms identifying any positive opportunities deriving from the Brexit process. In the absence of a trade deal, the Welsh economy would shrink by between 8 and 10 per cent, equating to between £1,500 and £2,000 each person in Wales.
17 council areas in Wales voted to leave and 5 to remain. Wales got quite a bit of money from the EU if i remember on a news story when the fiasco started! But obviously the people of Wales never knew that.
I hope nothing will change in my day to day life , few more pounds in my pocket maybe The economy of Wales would shrink by up to 10 per cent if Britain leaves the EU without a trade deal, according to an analysis released by the Welsh Government. The study, by the Cardiff Business School, found Wales will be hit disproportionally hard in comparison to other regions if the government takes the UK out of the EU single market and customs union. Major employers in industries such as car manufacturing, steel and aerospace will be especially hit by a hard Brexit, researchers warned. After consulting with dozens of companies, including several key employers, they found “few firms identifying any positive opportunities deriving from the Brexit process. In the absence of a trade deal, the Welsh economy would shrink by between 8 and 10 per cent, equating to between £1,500 and £2,000 each person in Wales. 17 council areas in Wales voted to leave and 5 to remain. Wales got quite a bit of money from the EU if i remember on a news story when the fiasco started! But obviously the people of Wales never knew that. |
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Jul 28, 2019 13:25:55 GMT 1
Brexit, by Daniel Silk on Jul 28, 2019 13:25:55 GMT 1, The economy of Wales would shrink by up to 10 per cent if Britain leaves the EU without a trade deal, according to an analysis released by the Welsh Government. The study, by the Cardiff Business School, found Wales will be hit disproportionally hard in comparison to other regions if the government takes the UK out of the EU single market and customs union. Major employers in industries such as car manufacturing, steel and aerospace will be especially hit by a hard Brexit, researchers warned. After consulting with dozens of companies, including several key employers, they found “few firms identifying any positive opportunities deriving from the Brexit process. In the absence of a trade deal, the Welsh economy would shrink by between 8 and 10 per cent, equating to between £1,500 and £2,000 each person in Wales. 17 council areas in Wales voted to leave and 5 to remain. Wales got quite a bit of money from the EU if i remember on a news story when the fiasco started! But obviously the people of Wales never knew that.
The economy of Wales would shrink by up to 10 per cent if Britain leaves the EU without a trade deal, according to an analysis released by the Welsh Government. The study, by the Cardiff Business School, found Wales will be hit disproportionally hard in comparison to other regions if the government takes the UK out of the EU single market and customs union. Major employers in industries such as car manufacturing, steel and aerospace will be especially hit by a hard Brexit, researchers warned. After consulting with dozens of companies, including several key employers, they found “few firms identifying any positive opportunities deriving from the Brexit process. In the absence of a trade deal, the Welsh economy would shrink by between 8 and 10 per cent, equating to between £1,500 and £2,000 each person in Wales. 17 council areas in Wales voted to leave and 5 to remain. Wales got quite a bit of money from the EU if i remember on a news story when the fiasco started! But obviously the people of Wales never knew that. Maybe people in Wales feel industry there has been hit worst by unfair competition from the rest of Europe, and thats probably why the EU has been giving funds there to try and easy the unemployment caused. |
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Jul 28, 2019 13:58:58 GMT 1
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Brexit, by sameoldthing on Jul 28, 2019 13:58:58 GMT 1, 17 council areas in Wales voted to leave and 5 to remain. Wales got quite a bit of money from the EU if i remember on a news story when the fiasco started! But obviously the people of Wales never knew that. Maybe people in Wales feel industry there has been hit worst by unfair competition from the rest of Europe, and thats probably why the EU has been giving funds there to try and easy the unemployment caused.
It is sad because that's the same in so many places. Hard times ahead for so many once we do leave. Especially a no deal.
From where i stand it does not look good!
17 council areas in Wales voted to leave and 5 to remain. Wales got quite a bit of money from the EU if i remember on a news story when the fiasco started! But obviously the people of Wales never knew that. Maybe people in Wales feel industry there has been hit worst by unfair competition from the rest of Europe, and thats probably why the EU has been giving funds there to try and easy the unemployment caused. It is sad because that's the same in so many places. Hard times ahead for so many once we do leave. Especially a no deal. From where i stand it does not look good! |
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Jul 28, 2019 16:48:06 GMT 1
Brexit, by mojo on Jul 28, 2019 16:48:06 GMT 1, It's much worse than sad it's a far right coup. So 92,000 Conservative voters have just enabled a total fuck up of a human being to become prime minister at the expense of the other 65 million+ people that live here to take us out of the EU with no deal on the basis of an advisory referendum that has since been proven to have been illegal and based on total bullshit & lies.
We now have a cabinet of disaster capitalists about to asset strip the entire country who's enormous wealth is accumulated mostly by inheritance then topped up by profit from war, debt and poverty of the masses before being stashed tax free offshore...a few of them have a taste for killing people too and want to bring back the death penalty. They're using the exact same tactics and lies as 5 years ago and have just pledged 3.6 Billion to throw at 'poor' areas to buy votes in almost exactly the same speech George Osborne dished out years ago and yet still hasn't materialised. Led by Donkeys... more like Vultures!
It's much worse than sad it's a far right coup. So 92,000 Conservative voters have just enabled a total fuck up of a human being to become prime minister at the expense of the other 65 million+ people that live here to take us out of the EU with no deal on the basis of an advisory referendum that has since been proven to have been illegal and based on total bullshit & lies.
We now have a cabinet of disaster capitalists about to asset strip the entire country who's enormous wealth is accumulated mostly by inheritance then topped up by profit from war, debt and poverty of the masses before being stashed tax free offshore...a few of them have a taste for killing people too and want to bring back the death penalty. They're using the exact same tactics and lies as 5 years ago and have just pledged 3.6 Billion to throw at 'poor' areas to buy votes in almost exactly the same speech George Osborne dished out years ago and yet still hasn't materialised. Led by Donkeys... more like Vultures!
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Jul 28, 2019 17:27:04 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 17:27:04 GMT 1, At least we can't say British politics is dull.
At least we can't say British politics is dull.
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Jul 28, 2019 17:49:42 GMT 1
Brexit, by irl1 on Jul 28, 2019 17:49:42 GMT 1, This thread is going to get a lot more exciting in the coming weeks 
This thread is going to get a lot more exciting in the coming weeks It sure will if you and manty go head on |
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Jul 28, 2019 21:59:49 GMT 1
Brexit, by wardance on Jul 28, 2019 21:59:49 GMT 1, It's much worse than sad it's a far right coup. So 92,000 Conservative voters have just enabled a total f**kup of a human being to become prime minister at the expense of the other 65 million+ people that live here to take us out of the EU with no deal on the basis of an advisory referendum that has since been proven to have been illegal and based on total bullshit & lies. We now have a cabinet of disaster capitalists about to asset strip the entire country who's enormous wealth is accumulated mostly by inheritance then topped up by profit from war, debt and poverty of the masses before being stashed tax free offshore...a few of them have a taste for killing people too and want to bring back the death penalty. They're using the exact same tactics and lies as 5 years ago and have just pledged 3.6 Billion to throw at 'poor' areas to buy votes in almost exactly the same speech George Osborne dished out years ago and yet still hasn't materialised. Led by Donkeys... more like Vultures!
So let's make a deal....the whole country goes along with the 'no deal' Brexit but with the proviso that if after a couple of years we get another referendum. If we're not happy with our standard of living post Brexit we get the chance to hold those responsible by sticking their heads on spikes at traitors gate?
It's much worse than sad it's a far right coup. So 92,000 Conservative voters have just enabled a total f**kup of a human being to become prime minister at the expense of the other 65 million+ people that live here to take us out of the EU with no deal on the basis of an advisory referendum that has since been proven to have been illegal and based on total bullshit & lies. We now have a cabinet of disaster capitalists about to asset strip the entire country who's enormous wealth is accumulated mostly by inheritance then topped up by profit from war, debt and poverty of the masses before being stashed tax free offshore...a few of them have a taste for killing people too and want to bring back the death penalty. They're using the exact same tactics and lies as 5 years ago and have just pledged 3.6 Billion to throw at 'poor' areas to buy votes in almost exactly the same speech George Osborne dished out years ago and yet still hasn't materialised. Led by Donkeys... more like Vultures! And after they've ruined the country they'll walk away from it wealthier than ever ignorant of the damage they've caused, leaving others to clear up the mess. Just as Cameron did at the start of this coup. So let's make a deal....the whole country goes along with the 'no deal' Brexit but with the proviso that if after a couple of years we get another referendum. If we're not happy with our standard of living post Brexit we get the chance to hold those responsible by sticking their heads on spikes at traitors gate? |
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Jul 29, 2019 10:32:03 GMT 1
Brexit, by love on Jul 29, 2019 10:32:03 GMT 1, Can‘t believe that Boris still surprises me:
Raab suggested that Boris Johnson will not reopen talks with the EU the summer unless it agrees to drop the backstop.
Boris Johnson plans to give the EU the cold shoulder by refusing to visit Brussels or any European leaders.
Can‘t believe that Boris still surprises me:
Raab suggested that Boris Johnson will not reopen talks with the EU the summer unless it agrees to drop the backstop.
Boris Johnson plans to give the EU the cold shoulder by refusing to visit Brussels or any European leaders.
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Jul 29, 2019 10:41:29 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daniel Silk on Jul 29, 2019 10:41:29 GMT 1, Sounds like a good idea to me.
If the EU actually want a deal, then it's time they come to London and try to sort one out. Why waste time going to meetings there when they say beforehand nothing can change.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
If the EU actually want a deal, then it's time they come to London and try to sort one out. Why waste time going to meetings there when they say beforehand nothing can change.
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Jul 29, 2019 11:26:34 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 11:26:34 GMT 1, Sounds like a good idea to me. If the EU actually want a deal, then it's time they come to London and try to sort one out. Why waste time going to meetings there when they say beforehand nothing can change.
It's not the EU who has to sort things out whilst the UK continues to squabble amongst themselves and can't even decide what sort of Brexit they want. If I was Michel Barnier I think I would have told the UK to "f***k off" a long time ago.
Sounds like a good idea to me. If the EU actually want a deal, then it's time they come to London and try to sort one out. Why waste time going to meetings there when they say beforehand nothing can change. I think you have to bear in mind that it is the UK who wants to leave the EU, not the other way round. It's not the EU who has to sort things out whilst the UK continues to squabble amongst themselves and can't even decide what sort of Brexit they want. If I was Michel Barnier I think I would have told the UK to "f***k off" a long time ago. |
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Jul 29, 2019 11:45:39 GMT 1
Brexit, by rebate on Jul 29, 2019 11:45:39 GMT 1, Sounds like a good idea to me. If the EU actually want a deal, then it's time they come to London and try to sort one out. Why waste time going to meetings there when they say beforehand nothing can change. I think you have to bear in mind that it is the UK who wants to leave the EU, not the other way round. It's not the EU who has to sort things out whilst the UK continues to squabble amongst themselves and can't even decide what sort of Brexit they want. If I was Michel Barnier I think I would have told the UK to "f***k off" a long time ago.
Entitlement at its best, for us to expect the EU to resolve this shiteshow.
Sounds like a good idea to me. If the EU actually want a deal, then it's time they come to London and try to sort one out. Why waste time going to meetings there when they say beforehand nothing can change. I think you have to bear in mind that it is the UK who wants to leave the EU, not the other way round. It's not the EU who has to sort things out whilst the UK continues to squabble amongst themselves and can't even decide what sort of Brexit they want. If I was Michel Barnier I think I would have told the UK to "f***k off" a long time ago. Jesus H Christ, you posted something i agree with from the first word to the last!! Entitlement at its best, for us to expect the EU to resolve this shiteshow. |
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Jul 29, 2019 12:03:53 GMT 1
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Brexit, by gd79 on Jul 29, 2019 12:03:53 GMT 1, There are three unavoidable truths
1. The EU cannot allow the UK to be seen to leave 'well'. It is about more than plain economics, it is a political necessity
2. You cannot make a material break from EU trade policy without a hard Irish border somewhere
3. You cannot make a material break without Scotland leaving the EU or the UK
I'm sure there is a way to reconcile the above truths into a Brexit that makes sense. Noone has spelt this out yet though, and I'm not sure Boris is the man to stumble upon it in the next few months
Though I'm sure he has a plan, right?
There are three unavoidable truths
1. The EU cannot allow the UK to be seen to leave 'well'. It is about more than plain economics, it is a political necessity
2. You cannot make a material break from EU trade policy without a hard Irish border somewhere
3. You cannot make a material break without Scotland leaving the EU or the UK
I'm sure there is a way to reconcile the above truths into a Brexit that makes sense. Noone has spelt this out yet though, and I'm not sure Boris is the man to stumble upon it in the next few months
Though I'm sure he has a plan, right?
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Brexit
Jul 29, 2019 13:04:21 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Daniel Silk on Jul 29, 2019 13:04:21 GMT 1, Sounds like a good idea to me. If the EU actually want a deal, then it's time they come to London and try to sort one out. Why waste time going to meetings there when they say beforehand nothing can change. I think you have to bear in mind that it is the UK who wants to leave the EU, not the other way round. It's not the EU who has to sort things out whilst the UK continues to squabble amongst themselves and can't even decide what sort of Brexit they want. If I was Michel Barnier I think I would have told the UK to "f***k off" a long time ago.
Yes your right, but it's in their interest also for a deal to be done,and eventually some sort of deal will be done, even if it means going through a no deal before it.
Actually the no deal situation might be the best basis for starting fresh for negotiations.
After leaving we are totally on equal footing, in that the EU,if they wanted, can start negotiations for a trade deal with the UK,if they don't want to, it OK.
Sounds like a good idea to me. If the EU actually want a deal, then it's time they come to London and try to sort one out. Why waste time going to meetings there when they say beforehand nothing can change. I think you have to bear in mind that it is the UK who wants to leave the EU, not the other way round. It's not the EU who has to sort things out whilst the UK continues to squabble amongst themselves and can't even decide what sort of Brexit they want. If I was Michel Barnier I think I would have told the UK to "f***k off" a long time ago. Yes your right, but it's in their interest also for a deal to be done,and eventually some sort of deal will be done, even if it means going through a no deal before it. Actually the no deal situation might be the best basis for starting fresh for negotiations. After leaving we are totally on equal footing, in that the EU,if they wanted, can start negotiations for a trade deal with the UK,if they don't want to, it OK. |
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Jul 29, 2019 13:36:38 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Hairbland on Jul 29, 2019 13:36:38 GMT 1, I think you have to bear in mind that it is the UK who wants to leave the EU, not the other way round. It's not the EU who has to sort things out whilst the UK continues to squabble amongst themselves and can't even decide what sort of Brexit they want. If I was Michel Barnier I think I would have told the UK to "f***k off" a long time ago. Yes your right, but it's in their interest also for a deal to be done,and eventually some sort of deal will be done, even if it means going through a no deal before it. Actually the no deal situation might be the best basis for starting fresh for negotiations. After leaving we are totally on equal footing, in that the EU,if they wanted, can start negotiations for a trade deal with the UK,if they don't want to, it OK.
Here’s a dose of reality: “The United States can afford to indulge in bashing international institutions and norms, at least for a while, because it is a huge country, with a powerful domestic economy, unparalleled military strength and great natural resources. Britain has none of these things. The idea that Britain, acting alone, can exact favorable terms from much larger powers such as China, Europe, or, indeed, the United States is a delusion. If it leaves the European Union, Britain will become a middling provincial country, whose fortunes will be subject to the whims of others.”
www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/opinion/sunday/boris-johnson-churchill-britain-trump-brexit.html?searchResultPosition=1
I think you have to bear in mind that it is the UK who wants to leave the EU, not the other way round. It's not the EU who has to sort things out whilst the UK continues to squabble amongst themselves and can't even decide what sort of Brexit they want. If I was Michel Barnier I think I would have told the UK to "f***k off" a long time ago. Yes your right, but it's in their interest also for a deal to be done,and eventually some sort of deal will be done, even if it means going through a no deal before it. Actually the no deal situation might be the best basis for starting fresh for negotiations. After leaving we are totally on equal footing, in that the EU,if they wanted, can start negotiations for a trade deal with the UK,if they don't want to, it OK. Here’s a dose of reality: “The United States can afford to indulge in bashing international institutions and norms, at least for a while, because it is a huge country, with a powerful domestic economy, unparalleled military strength and great natural resources. Britain has none of these things. The idea that Britain, acting alone, can exact favorable terms from much larger powers such as China, Europe, or, indeed, the United States is a delusion. If it leaves the European Union, Britain will become a middling provincial country, whose fortunes will be subject to the whims of others.” www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/opinion/sunday/boris-johnson-churchill-britain-trump-brexit.html?searchResultPosition=1 |
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Jul 29, 2019 13:47:56 GMT 1
Brexit, by Daniel Silk on Jul 29, 2019 13:47:56 GMT 1, Yes your right, but it's in their interest also for a deal to be done,and eventually some sort of deal will be done, even if it means going through a no deal before it. Actually the no deal situation might be the best basis for starting fresh for negotiations. After leaving we are totally on equal footing, in that the EU,if they wanted, can start negotiations for a trade deal with the UK,if they don't want to, it OK. Here’s a dose of reality: “The United States can afford to indulge in bashing international institutions and norms, at least for a while, because it is a huge country, with a powerful domestic economy, unparalleled military strength and great natural resources. Britain has none of these things. The idea that Britain, acting alone, can exact favorable terms from much larger powers such as China, Europe, or, indeed, the United States is a delusion. If it leaves the European Union, Britain will become a middling provincial country, whose fortunes will be subject to the whims of others.” www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/opinion/sunday/boris-johnson-churchill-britain-trump-brexit.html?searchResultPosition=1
Yes your right, but it's in their interest also for a deal to be done,and eventually some sort of deal will be done, even if it means going through a no deal before it. Actually the no deal situation might be the best basis for starting fresh for negotiations. After leaving we are totally on equal footing, in that the EU,if they wanted, can start negotiations for a trade deal with the UK,if they don't want to, it OK. Here’s a dose of reality: “The United States can afford to indulge in bashing international institutions and norms, at least for a while, because it is a huge country, with a powerful domestic economy, unparalleled military strength and great natural resources. Britain has none of these things. The idea that Britain, acting alone, can exact favorable terms from much larger powers such as China, Europe, or, indeed, the United States is a delusion. If it leaves the European Union, Britain will become a middling provincial country, whose fortunes will be subject to the whims of others.” www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/opinion/sunday/boris-johnson-churchill-britain-trump-brexit.html?searchResultPosition=1If the UK really is that weak and unimportant in the world economy, why does it matter if it leaves the EU? |
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Jul 29, 2019 13:51:06 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Hairbland on Jul 29, 2019 13:51:06 GMT 1, Here’s a dose of reality: “The United States can afford to indulge in bashing international institutions and norms, at least for a while, because it is a huge country, with a powerful domestic economy, unparalleled military strength and great natural resources. Britain has none of these things. The idea that Britain, acting alone, can exact favorable terms from much larger powers such as China, Europe, or, indeed, the United States is a delusion. If it leaves the European Union, Britain will become a middling provincial country, whose fortunes will be subject to the whims of others.” www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/opinion/sunday/boris-johnson-churchill-britain-trump-brexit.html?searchResultPosition=1If the UK really is that weak and unimportant in the world economy, why does it matter if it leaves the EU?
Quick response - did you read the link or just the comment? To most outside of England it doesn’t matter. I imagine time will tell.
Here’s a dose of reality: “The United States can afford to indulge in bashing international institutions and norms, at least for a while, because it is a huge country, with a powerful domestic economy, unparalleled military strength and great natural resources. Britain has none of these things. The idea that Britain, acting alone, can exact favorable terms from much larger powers such as China, Europe, or, indeed, the United States is a delusion. If it leaves the European Union, Britain will become a middling provincial country, whose fortunes will be subject to the whims of others.” www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/opinion/sunday/boris-johnson-churchill-britain-trump-brexit.html?searchResultPosition=1If the UK really is that weak and unimportant in the world economy, why does it matter if it leaves the EU? Quick response - did you read the link or just the comment? To most outside of England it doesn’t matter. I imagine time will tell. |
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Jul 29, 2019 13:51:39 GMT 1
Brexit, by Daniel Silk on Jul 29, 2019 13:51:39 GMT 1, Imagine Portugal voted to leave the EU, would anyone really care, would it make any difference to anyone?
Imagine Portugal voted to leave the EU, would anyone really care, would it make any difference to anyone?
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Jul 29, 2019 13:56:55 GMT 1
Brexit, by Daniel Silk on Jul 29, 2019 13:56:55 GMT 1, What I’m saying is, if the UK really is so unimportant in the eyes of the rest of the World, then leaving the EU doesn’t matter, it’s will make no difference, the UK doesn’t make anything, doesn’t buy anything, no resources, no influence. Let’s just move on and don’t talk about it? 😆
Or maybe 😉 just maybe, it is important 🤪
What I’m saying is, if the UK really is so unimportant in the eyes of the rest of the World, then leaving the EU doesn’t matter, it’s will make no difference, the UK doesn’t make anything, doesn’t buy anything, no resources, no influence. Let’s just move on and don’t talk about it? 😆
Or maybe 😉 just maybe, it is important 🤪
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Jul 29, 2019 14:36:10 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Hairbland on Jul 29, 2019 14:36:10 GMT 1, What I’m saying is, if the UK really is so unimportant in the eyes of the rest of the World, then leaving the EU doesn’t matter, it’s will make no difference, the UK doesn’t make anything, doesn’t buy anything, no resources, no influence. Let’s just move on and don’t talk about it? 😆 Or maybe 😉 just maybe, it is important 🤪
Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems that Britain’s significance has been as a financial center, which would be why they could see themselves as a new type of Singapore.
Time, as usual, will render the final verdict. Meanwhile you now have a clown running things also.
What I’m saying is, if the UK really is so unimportant in the eyes of the rest of the World, then leaving the EU doesn’t matter, it’s will make no difference, the UK doesn’t make anything, doesn’t buy anything, no resources, no influence. Let’s just move on and don’t talk about it? 😆 Or maybe 😉 just maybe, it is important 🤪 Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems that Britain’s significance has been as a financial center, which would be why they could see themselves as a new type of Singapore. Time, as usual, will render the final verdict. Meanwhile you now have a clown running things also. |
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Jul 29, 2019 14:37:13 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Coach on Jul 29, 2019 14:37:13 GMT 1, What I’m saying is, if the UK really is so unimportant in the eyes of the rest of the World, then leaving the EU doesn’t matter, it’s will make no difference, the UK doesn’t make anything, doesn’t buy anything, no resources, no influence. Let’s just move on and don’t talk about it? 😆 Or maybe 😉 just maybe, it is important 🤪
The UK is important to Europe. Europe will definitely feel a negative impact of UK leaving especially if it’s without a deal.
In particular no deal will be dreadful for Ireland.
But:
Europe is more important to the UK (so far as trade is concerned)
And:
The integrity of the E.U. principles is more important to the E.U. than than our government or any brexiteer anticipated
(For example we were told that the German car industry wouldn’t allow the German government to leave without a deal - in fact they have supported the E.U. consensus).
What I’m saying is, if the UK really is so unimportant in the eyes of the rest of the World, then leaving the EU doesn’t matter, it’s will make no difference, the UK doesn’t make anything, doesn’t buy anything, no resources, no influence. Let’s just move on and don’t talk about it? 😆 Or maybe 😉 just maybe, it is important 🤪 The UK is important to Europe. Europe will definitely feel a negative impact of UK leaving especially if it’s without a deal. In particular no deal will be dreadful for Ireland. But: Europe is more important to the UK (so far as trade is concerned) And: The integrity of the E.U. principles is more important to the E.U. than than our government or any brexiteer anticipated (For example we were told that the German car industry wouldn’t allow the German government to leave without a deal - in fact they have supported the E.U. consensus). |
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Brexit, by mojo on Jul 29, 2019 15:25:11 GMT 1, They are all fucked without us ! We always have been and always will be they greatest country ever....
They are all fucked without us ! We always have been and always will be they greatest country ever.... Have you ever left Essex to live, work or study overseas? ...genuine question. |
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Jul 29, 2019 16:44:43 GMT 1
Brexit, by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 16:44:43 GMT 1, Yes your right, but it's in their interest also for a deal to be done,and eventually some sort of deal will be done, even if it means going through a no deal before it. Actually the no deal situation might be the best basis for starting fresh for negotiations. After leaving we are totally on equal footing, in that the EU,if they wanted, can start negotiations for a trade deal with the UK,if they don't want to, it OK. Here’s a dose of reality: “The United States can afford to indulge in bashing international institutions and norms, at least for a while, because it is a huge country, with a powerful domestic economy, unparalleled military strength and great natural resources. Britain has none of these things. The idea that Britain, acting alone, can exact favorable terms from much larger powers such as China, Europe, or, indeed, the United States is a delusion. If it leaves the European Union, Britain will become a middling provincial country, whose fortunes will be subject to the whims of others.” www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/opinion/sunday/boris-johnson-churchill-britain-trump-brexit.html?searchResultPosition=1
Yes your right, but it's in their interest also for a deal to be done,and eventually some sort of deal will be done, even if it means going through a no deal before it. Actually the no deal situation might be the best basis for starting fresh for negotiations. After leaving we are totally on equal footing, in that the EU,if they wanted, can start negotiations for a trade deal with the UK,if they don't want to, it OK. Here’s a dose of reality: “The United States can afford to indulge in bashing international institutions and norms, at least for a while, because it is a huge country, with a powerful domestic economy, unparalleled military strength and great natural resources. Britain has none of these things. The idea that Britain, acting alone, can exact favorable terms from much larger powers such as China, Europe, or, indeed, the United States is a delusion. If it leaves the European Union, Britain will become a middling provincial country, whose fortunes will be subject to the whims of others.” www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/opinion/sunday/boris-johnson-churchill-britain-trump-brexit.html?searchResultPosition=1Boris keeps telling us we are going to get a great trade deal from the United States. But I can't see how that will ever happen. Trump has repeatedly told everybody that it's "America first. America First. America first". When we leave the EU, Trump knows full well that he has us over a barrel and that we must be grateful for any meagre scraps that he lets fall from his presidential table. The idea that Trump will give us a great deal is pure fantasy. We will get a bad deal from Trump. I guarantee it. |
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Jul 29, 2019 16:45:05 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Coach on Jul 29, 2019 16:45:05 GMT 1, They are all fucked without us ! We always have been and always will be they greatest country ever....
By what scale? In reference to what?
Or are you referencing the blind jingoism scale?
They are all fucked without us ! We always have been and always will be they greatest country ever.... By what scale? In reference to what? Or are you referencing the blind jingoism scale? |
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Jul 29, 2019 17:14:03 GMT 1
Brexit, by silvermyn on Jul 29, 2019 17:14:03 GMT 1, They are all fucked without us ! We always have been and always will be they greatest country ever.... Hilarious! Meanwhile, back in reality it's more like "Okay, mind the door doesn't hit your ar*s on the way out!"
The only concern the EU has is that one of its members (Ireland) now has a very sensitive border issue. That's about it... the rest doesn't matter to them.
They will sue for the £39bn and will eventually win, so that is not a concern to the EU.
They are all fucked without us ! We always have been and always will be they greatest country ever.... Hilarious! Meanwhile, back in reality it's more like "Okay, mind the door doesn't hit your ar*s on the way out!"
The only concern the EU has is that one of its members (Ireland) now has a very sensitive border issue. That's about it... the rest doesn't matter to them.
They will sue for the £39bn and will eventually win, so that is not a concern to the EU.
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Jul 29, 2019 17:14:56 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Hairbland on Jul 29, 2019 17:14:56 GMT 1, They are all fucked without us ! We always have been and always will be they greatest country ever....
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Jul 29, 2019 17:17:53 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Hairbland on Jul 29, 2019 17:17:53 GMT 1, Here’s a dose of reality: “The United States can afford to indulge in bashing international institutions and norms, at least for a while, because it is a huge country, with a powerful domestic economy, unparalleled military strength and great natural resources. Britain has none of these things. The idea that Britain, acting alone, can exact favorable terms from much larger powers such as China, Europe, or, indeed, the United States is a delusion. If it leaves the European Union, Britain will become a middling provincial country, whose fortunes will be subject to the whims of others.” www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/opinion/sunday/boris-johnson-churchill-britain-trump-brexit.html?searchResultPosition=1Boris keeps telling us we are going to get a great trade deal from the United States. But I can't see how that will ever happen. Trump has repeatedly told everybody that it's "America first. America First. America first". When we leave the EU, Trump knows full well that he has us over a barrel and that we must be grateful for any meagre scraps that he lets fall from his presidential table. The idea that Trump will give us a great deal is pure fantasy. We will get a bad deal from Trump. I guarantee it.
Boris is on the record as bitingly insulting Trump, who files every grudge big or small away to be dealt with at some point. What leverage does England have in any potential trade deal with the US? Zero.
Here’s a dose of reality: “The United States can afford to indulge in bashing international institutions and norms, at least for a while, because it is a huge country, with a powerful domestic economy, unparalleled military strength and great natural resources. Britain has none of these things. The idea that Britain, acting alone, can exact favorable terms from much larger powers such as China, Europe, or, indeed, the United States is a delusion. If it leaves the European Union, Britain will become a middling provincial country, whose fortunes will be subject to the whims of others.” www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/opinion/sunday/boris-johnson-churchill-britain-trump-brexit.html?searchResultPosition=1Boris keeps telling us we are going to get a great trade deal from the United States. But I can't see how that will ever happen. Trump has repeatedly told everybody that it's "America first. America First. America first". When we leave the EU, Trump knows full well that he has us over a barrel and that we must be grateful for any meagre scraps that he lets fall from his presidential table. The idea that Trump will give us a great deal is pure fantasy. We will get a bad deal from Trump. I guarantee it. Boris is on the record as bitingly insulting Trump, who files every grudge big or small away to be dealt with at some point. What leverage does England have in any potential trade deal with the US? Zero. |
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Jul 29, 2019 19:29:18 GMT 1
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Brexit, by Hairbland on Jul 29, 2019 19:29:18 GMT 1, Boris is on the record as bitingly insulting Trump, who files every grudge big or small away to be dealt with at some point. What leverage does England have in any potential trade deal with the US? Zero. Seriously? Your one of those flag waving Americans aren't you! You'd have to be some kind of moron to say that the UK has no leverage in any deal with any country You're not a Moron are you?
I’m not a flag waver, to generalize me and call me a moron disqualifies any point of view you might have. Cheers!
Boris is on the record as bitingly insulting Trump, who files every grudge big or small away to be dealt with at some point. What leverage does England have in any potential trade deal with the US? Zero. Seriously? Your one of those flag waving Americans aren't you! You'd have to be some kind of moron to say that the UK has no leverage in any deal with any country You're not a Moron are you? I’m not a flag waver, to generalize me and call me a moron disqualifies any point of view you might have. Cheers! |
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Jul 29, 2019 19:48:34 GMT 1
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Brexit, by k2 on Jul 29, 2019 19:48:34 GMT 1, Have you ever left Essex to live, work or study overseas? ...genuine question. [b I lived in tenerife for 18 months and ibiza for 10 months in the 90's I have also visited France Holland Germany Switzerland Austria Spain China new Zealand Mexico Malta over the years
Does it worry you that you voted to deny the next generation from enjoying the same freedom to live and work overseas that you experienced? Or are you excited about that too.
Have you ever left Essex to live, work or study overseas? ...genuine question. [b I lived in tenerife for 18 months and ibiza for 10 months in the 90's I have also visited France Holland Germany Switzerland Austria Spain China new Zealand Mexico Malta over the years Does it worry you that you voted to deny the next generation from enjoying the same freedom to live and work overseas that you experienced? Or are you excited about that too. |
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