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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by milo99 on Apr 20, 2017 19:42:07 GMT 1, Well that killed it ๐๐ I started the thread as I do genuinely find it shocking some big names are still really affordable given their history and contribution to urban art but I can see how it's easy to be biased and have post lean towards the "I would like my prints to blow up" content. Has been interesting reading people's for and against etc and has had me googling the odd person and discovering their work so not a total fail ๐
Hopefully it will help you find some nice art, and cheap ๐
Well that killed it ๐๐ I started the thread as I do genuinely find it shocking some big names are still really affordable given their history and contribution to urban art but I can see how it's easy to be biased and have post lean towards the "I would like my prints to blow up" content. Has been interesting reading people's for and against etc and has had me googling the odd person and discovering their work so not a total fail ๐ Hopefully it will help you find some nice art, and cheap ๐ |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 19:47:07 GMT 1, I do not think he has been mentioned yet but what about Sweettoof, large originals still under my ยฃ5000 limit with small originals starting at a couple of hundred pounds.
Not bad for a piece by an artist who was fundamental in the Bristol street art movement.
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I only own a linocut which I absolutely love, wish I had bought a few other pieces when they were more readily available.
I do not think he has been mentioned yet but what about Sweettoof, large originals still under my ยฃ5000 limit with small originals starting at a couple of hundred pounds.
Not bad for a piece by an artist who was fundamental in the Bristol street art movement.
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I only own a linocut which I absolutely love, wish I had bought a few other pieces when they were more readily available.
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by annar50 on Apr 20, 2017 20:04:05 GMT 1, Faile. To many editions in the past few years. If they had stuck to the small hand painted releases their work would be commanding much higher prices, no doubt about it.
Totallyโ agree , i think that goes to quite a few artists
Faile. To many editions in the past few years. If they had stuck to the small hand painted releases their work would be commanding much higher prices, no doubt about it. Totallyโ agree , i think that goes to quite a few artists |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by medichead on Apr 20, 2017 20:15:24 GMT 1, Great thread, to add my slightly off piste comment, will be interested to see which direction Miller goes? Certainly huge potential, but would like to see 'post penguin books', and where that goes.
Are you saying huge potential for his work to go up in value? He already has prints that cost ยฃ9.6k on launch - how much bigger can you get?
In terms of future print releases I think we could probably expect more of those Blain Southern '70s textbook covers' for the near future - but that's just me guessing!
Great thread, to add my slightly off piste comment, will be interested to see which direction Miller goes? Certainly huge potential, but would like to see 'post penguin books', and where that goes. Are you saying huge potential for his work to go up in value? He already has prints that cost ยฃ9.6k on launch - how much bigger can you get? In terms of future print releases I think we could probably expect more of those Blain Southern '70s textbook covers' for the near future - but that's just me guessing! |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by urbanflik on Apr 20, 2017 20:18:41 GMT 1, Escif
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by milo99 on Apr 20, 2017 20:23:37 GMT 1, Great thread, to add my slightly off piste comment, will be interested to see which directionย Miller goes? Certainly huge potential, but would like to see 'post penguin books', and where that goes. Are you saying huge potential for his work to go up in value? He already has prints that cost ยฃ9.6k on launch - how much bigger can you get? In terms of future print releases I think we could probably expect more of those Blain Southern '70s textbook covers' for the near future - but that's just me guessing!
Suprised people aren't bored of them prints yet
Great thread, to add my slightly off piste comment, will be interested to see which directionย Miller goes? Certainly huge potential, but would like to see 'post penguin books', and where that goes. Are you saying huge potential for his work to go up in value? He already has prints that cost ยฃ9.6k on launch - how much bigger can you get? In terms of future print releases I think we could probably expect more of those Blain Southern '70s textbook covers' for the near future - but that's just me guessing! Suprised people aren't bored of them prints yet |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by AoT Framing on Apr 20, 2017 20:51:16 GMT 1, Jim Sanders
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 21:18:13 GMT 1, I do not agree with those that are posting that this thread is purely to boost the interest in artist's work that they own.
I have heard however that Cliff Phillips's painting's are way under valued and will be blowing up any minute now 
All the best
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I do not agree with those that are posting that this thread is purely to boost the interest in artist's work that they own. I have heard however that Cliff Phillips's painting's are way under valued and will be blowing up any minute now All the best CliffCJP |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by mla on Apr 20, 2017 21:43:08 GMT 1, One I don't own -- Vhils
One I don't own -- Vhils
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by preston on Apr 20, 2017 22:32:09 GMT 1, I'm not sure that we can assume that anyone else on the scene currently IS likely to 'blow up' in the same way that Invader has. In my personal opinion, and saying this breaks my heart (wallet) as I have items from most of the artists listed above, most of them have effectively blown their chance, either through repetitive work, poor management or poor choices in the form of over-saturating the market, etc. The one that I genuinely thought would make it was Faile, as they built up a small but enthused fan base with low edition prints and one offs, but they produce so many prints now that picking one up slightly above cost is very easy to do.
Invader prices seem to have gone through the roof primarily through a pronounced dearth of recent product to buy. Other artists could of course follow this method, but it does rely on there being a base level of popularity to give a shit when supply does dry up. Personal liking/preference for a certain artist means relatively little if you're one of only 100 people to care.
I'm not sure that we can assume that anyone else on the scene currently IS likely to 'blow up' in the same way that Invader has. In my personal opinion, and saying this breaks my heart (wallet) as I have items from most of the artists listed above, most of them have effectively blown their chance, either through repetitive work, poor management or poor choices in the form of over-saturating the market, etc. The one that I genuinely thought would make it was Faile, as they built up a small but enthused fan base with low edition prints and one offs, but they produce so many prints now that picking one up slightly above cost is very easy to do.
Invader prices seem to have gone through the roof primarily through a pronounced dearth of recent product to buy. Other artists could of course follow this method, but it does rely on there being a base level of popularity to give a shit when supply does dry up. Personal liking/preference for a certain artist means relatively little if you're one of only 100 people to care.
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by mla on Apr 20, 2017 22:47:28 GMT 1, I don't think you can cite "repetitive work" as an issue and then reference Invader as being the prime example of how to go about things as an artist.
The increase in value of his work does not seem organic at all. It was almost an overnight bump of 3-4x in pricing. Much of what is being bought up now at these elevated prices are by those doing so out of fear and by those in the business of speculation. Ultimately, it will be interesting to see where it all goes.
I don't think you can cite "repetitive work" as an issue and then reference Invader as being the prime example of how to go about things as an artist.
The increase in value of his work does not seem organic at all. It was almost an overnight bump of 3-4x in pricing. Much of what is being bought up now at these elevated prices are by those doing so out of fear and by those in the business of speculation. Ultimately, it will be interesting to see where it all goes.
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by Howard Johnson on Apr 20, 2017 22:51:23 GMT 1, My opinion is that the Invader blow up can be directly linked to his Asian presence. For the past couple years he's targeted that market aggressively, and its paid off in spades. Kaws did the same thing early on, and it skyrocketed his market before a lot of the other artists mentioned here. The Asian art market is growing very quickly, and I think that Invader and Kaws have been able to successfully ride that train to financial success (it also doesn't hurt that their images are tangentially related to Asian culture). Beyond China and Japan, I think the middle east will be the next big market for US artworks. So in terms of the "next big thing" I'd look to artists that are pushing for appeal beyond the US/EU.
My opinion is that the Invader blow up can be directly linked to his Asian presence. For the past couple years he's targeted that market aggressively, and its paid off in spades. Kaws did the same thing early on, and it skyrocketed his market before a lot of the other artists mentioned here. The Asian art market is growing very quickly, and I think that Invader and Kaws have been able to successfully ride that train to financial success (it also doesn't hurt that their images are tangentially related to Asian culture). Beyond China and Japan, I think the middle east will be the next big market for US artworks. So in terms of the "next big thing" I'd look to artists that are pushing for appeal beyond the US/EU.
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by Meskell on Apr 21, 2017 0:11:54 GMT 1, I find about one in every ten prints desirable from any given artist including the ones I am most drawn to. So I need all of them to blow up to really cash in.
I find about one in every ten prints desirable from any given artist including the ones I am most drawn to. So I need all of them to blow up to really cash in.
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by The Rat King on Apr 21, 2017 0:20:57 GMT 1, Hush
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by Born Again on Apr 21, 2017 0:37:40 GMT 1, My opinion is that the Invader blow up can be directly linked to his Asian presence. For the past couple years he's targeted that market aggressively, and its paid off in spades. Kaws did the same thing early on, and it skyrocketed his market before a lot of the other artists mentioned here. The Asian art market is growing very quickly, and I think that Invader and Kaws have been able to successfully ride that train to financial success (it also doesn't hurt that their images are tangentially related to Asian culture). Beyond China and Japan, I think the middle east will be the next big market for US artworks. So in terms of the "next big thing" I'd look to artists that are pushing for appeal beyond the US/EU.
Not thought of this before. Good point. Perhaps why Hong Kong shows are becoming a prominent feature for artists now. I.e. Pure evil etc in recent times
My opinion is that the Invader blow up can be directly linked to his Asian presence. For the past couple years he's targeted that market aggressively, and its paid off in spades. Kaws did the same thing early on, and it skyrocketed his market before a lot of the other artists mentioned here. The Asian art market is growing very quickly, and I think that Invader and Kaws have been able to successfully ride that train to financial success (it also doesn't hurt that their images are tangentially related to Asian culture). Beyond China and Japan, I think the middle east will be the next big market for US artworks. So in terms of the "next big thing" I'd look to artists that are pushing for appeal beyond the US/EU. Not thought of this before. Good point. Perhaps why Hong Kong shows are becoming a prominent feature for artists now. I.e. Pure evil etc in recent times |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by phat planet on Apr 21, 2017 1:29:52 GMT 1, Anthony Lister.
Anthony Lister.
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by nobokov on Apr 21, 2017 2:54:22 GMT 1,
Hasn't he blown up? He's selling stuff from his recycling bin for ยฃ100. If that's not big time, then I don't know what is....
Hasn't he blown up? He's selling stuff from his recycling bin for ยฃ100. If that's not big time, then I don't know what is.... |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by thomasmer on Apr 21, 2017 3:12:42 GMT 1, Listers as real as they get, his prices should start to fly soon.
Listers as real as they get, his prices should start to fly soon. |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by Born Again on Apr 21, 2017 6:08:20 GMT 1, Listers as real as they get, his prices should start to fly soon.
I hope so. I've got a tidy collection fo that guys work.
His show last year was still reasonably priced though
Listers as real as they get, his prices should start to fly soon. I hope so. I've got a tidy collection fo that guys work. His show last year was still reasonably priced though |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by John The Badgers on Apr 21, 2017 10:13:28 GMT 1, Great thread, to add my slightly off piste comment, will be interested to see which direction Miller goes? Certainly huge potential, but would like to see 'post penguin books', and where that goes. Are you saying huge potential for his work to go up in value? He already has prints that cost ยฃ9.6k on launch - how much bigger can you get? In terms of future print releases I think we could probably expect more of those Blain Southern '70s textbook covers' for the near future - but that's just me guessing!
Great thread, to add my slightly off piste comment, will be interested to see which direction Miller goes? Certainly huge potential, but would like to see 'post penguin books', and where that goes. Are you saying huge potential for his work to go up in value? He already has prints that cost ยฃ9.6k on launch - how much bigger can you get? In terms of future print releases I think we could probably expect more of those Blain Southern '70s textbook covers' for the near future - but that's just me guessing! I am just interested in which direction he goes art wise, nothing to do with the value of his work. Although I have certainly enjoyed the Penguin Books based works, just interested to see where the fella goes next. |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 11:34:54 GMT 1, I keep changing my mind on this. Artists change their styles and followers with it, and some are producing print every 5 minutes and dragging out styles or copying older works of others.
Used to like Nick Walker but fed up of his vandal image.
Pure Evil had enough of the dripping eyes.
Eine - How many fonts are there and too many releases imho.
Dolk - Lost me at the grey blocks.
Eelus - Like some not others, waiting to see his direction.
Harlan Miller - repetitive
RYCA - no more star wars or smileys. Like the way he experiments with mediums though.
If you took the financial gain prospects from half the artists I would be surprised if they sold out.
I like some of pose' works but prefer Tristan Eaton
ROA
Phlegm
I keep changing my mind on this. Artists change their styles and followers with it, and some are producing print every 5 minutes and dragging out styles or copying older works of others.
Used to like Nick Walker but fed up of his vandal image.
Pure Evil had enough of the dripping eyes.
Eine - How many fonts are there and too many releases imho.
Dolk - Lost me at the grey blocks.
Eelus - Like some not others, waiting to see his direction.
Harlan Miller - repetitive
RYCA - no more star wars or smileys. Like the way he experiments with mediums though.
If you took the financial gain prospects from half the artists I would be surprised if they sold out.
I like some of pose' works but prefer Tristan Eaton
ROA
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by Jimmy Oscar on Apr 21, 2017 12:42:51 GMT 1,
The Invader blow up is down to one thing and one thing only.
Certain galleries have been buying up private stock over the past 12 months as part of a deliberate strategy of pumping up his prices.
They have achieved this - and now of course nobody in the private world wants to 'miss' out and are now paying vastly inflated prices.
That's why there are suddenly 5x more invaders being sold on here than ever before. They're being dumped by owners who can't believe their luck.
A kit being sold for circa 4K is evidence of that.
The Invader blow up is down to one thing and one thing only.
Certain galleries have been buying up private stock over the past 12 months as part of a deliberate strategy of pumping up his prices.
They have achieved this - and now of course nobody in the private world wants to 'miss' out and are now paying vastly inflated prices.
That's why there are suddenly 5x more invaders being sold on here than ever before. They're being dumped by owners who can't believe their luck.
A kit being sold for circa 4K is evidence of that.
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by slipry on Apr 21, 2017 12:50:46 GMT 1, The Invader blow up is down to one thing and one thing only. Certain galleries have been buying up private stock over the past 12 months as part of a deliberate strategy of pumping up his prices. They have achieved this - and now of course nobody in the private world wants to 'miss' out and are now paying vastly inflated prices. That's why there are suddenly 5x more invaders being sold on here than ever before. They're being dumped by owners who can't believe their luck. A kit being sold for circa 4K is evidence of that.
Yup ! ...and here comes the pumping and dumping on the back-end of the purchasing 'exercise' ; same as it ever was -
The Invader blow up is down to one thing and one thing only. Certain galleries have been buying up private stock over the past 12 months as part of a deliberate strategy of pumping up his prices. They have achieved this - and now of course nobody in the private world wants to 'miss' out and are now paying vastly inflated prices. That's why there are suddenly 5x more invaders being sold on here than ever before. They're being dumped by owners who can't believe their luck. A kit being sold for circa 4K is evidence of that. Yup ! ...and here comes the pumping and dumping on the back-end of the purchasing 'exercise' ; same as it ever was - |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by tran16 on Apr 21, 2017 12:54:05 GMT 1,
"Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the contemporary urban and street art world shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and, on conviction thereof, shall be punished by fine not exceeding $100,000,000 if a corporation, or, if any other person, $1,000,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding 10 years, or by both said punishments, in the discretion of the court."
Sherman Act 1890
"Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the contemporary urban and street art world shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and, on conviction thereof, shall be punished by fine not exceeding $100,000,000 if a corporation, or, if any other person, $1,000,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding 10 years, or by both said punishments, in the discretion of the court."
Sherman Act 1890
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by Born Again on Apr 21, 2017 13:04:15 GMT 1, "Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the contemporary urban and street art world shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and, on conviction thereof, shall be punished by fine not exceeding $100,000,000 if a corporation, or, if any other person, $1,000,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding 10 years, or by both said punishments, in the discretion of the court." Sherman Act 1890
We need code words then
"Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the contemporary urban and street art world shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and, on conviction thereof, shall be punished by fine not exceeding $100,000,000 if a corporation, or, if any other person, $1,000,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding 10 years, or by both said punishments, in the discretion of the court." Sherman Act 1890 We need code words then |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 13:13:21 GMT 1, The Invader blow up is down to one thing and one thing only. Certain galleries have been buying up private stock over the past 12 months as part of a deliberate strategy of pumping up his prices. They have achieved this - and now of course nobody in the private world wants to 'miss' out and are now paying vastly inflated prices. That's why there are suddenly 5x more invaders being sold on here than ever before. They're being dumped by owners who can't believe their luck. A kit being sold for circa 4K is evidence of that.
The Invader blow up is down to one thing and one thing only. Certain galleries have been buying up private stock over the past 12 months as part of a deliberate strategy of pumping up his prices. They have achieved this - and now of course nobody in the private world wants to 'miss' out and are now paying vastly inflated prices. That's why there are suddenly 5x more invaders being sold on here than ever before. They're being dumped by owners who can't believe their luck. A kit being sold for circa 4K is evidence of that. friend sold one to gallery asking for his works on here a year or so ago :-( |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by highflyer on Apr 21, 2017 13:19:17 GMT 1, Is there a way to hide threads so they don't show up on your feed? It keeps popping up and the title is ambiguous as blow up can be positive or negative. Also, it's should HAVE not should of.
Is there a way to hide threads so they don't show up on your feed? It keeps popping up and the title is ambiguous as blow up can be positive or negative. Also, it's should HAVE not should of.
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by jluhiex on Apr 21, 2017 13:51:58 GMT 1, The Invader blow up is down to one thing and one thing only. Certain galleries have been buying up private stock over the past 12 months as part of a deliberate strategy of pumping up his prices. They have achieved this - and now of course nobody in the private world wants to 'miss' out and are now paying vastly inflated prices. That's why there are suddenly 5x more invaders being sold on here than ever before. They're being dumped by owners who can't believe their luck. A kit being sold for circa 4K is evidence of that.
The man speaks the truth!
The Invader blow up is down to one thing and one thing only. Certain galleries have been buying up private stock over the past 12 months as part of a deliberate strategy of pumping up his prices. They have achieved this - and now of course nobody in the private world wants to 'miss' out and are now paying vastly inflated prices. That's why there are suddenly 5x more invaders being sold on here than ever before. They're being dumped by owners who can't believe their luck. A kit being sold for circa 4K is evidence of that. The man speaks the truth! |
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Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't. , by maxamaxa2 on Apr 21, 2017 14:01:02 GMT 1, A 100x100cm big lenticular alphabet...
One more step further in to the children room art. Sorry, but I cant see how this guy would ever make it to the historybooks other than in nostalgia memories of our children that had his art in their rooms when they were young.
A 100x100cm big lenticular alphabet... One more step further in to the children room art. Sorry, but I cant see how this guy would ever make it to the historybooks other than in nostalgia memories of our children that had his art in their rooms when they were young. |
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