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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by moron on Oct 12, 2018 18:06:39 GMT 1, "Signed and dedicated on the reverse."
I can report that the dedication was, โThanks Joโ, with a heart and a CND symbol.
It may be a coincidence, but Banksy's publicist is Jo Brooks.
www.arthistorynews.com/index.php
"Signed and dedicated on the reverse." I can report that the dedication was, โThanks Joโ, with a heart and a CND symbol.
It may be a coincidence, but Banksy's publicist is Jo Brooks. www.arthistorynews.com/index.php |
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by moron on Oct 12, 2018 18:41:05 GMT 1,
Do you think it was pre shredded and fed through using battery powered rollers?
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by jimbofatz on Oct 12, 2018 19:04:01 GMT 1, This thread is getting super racist not all 40-50 year old white pasty dudes look like gunningham with a $2 costume on.
This thread is getting super racist not all 40-50 year old white pasty dudes look like gunningham with a $2 costume on.
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Fake on Oct 12, 2018 19:18:11 GMT 1, Looks like it was shredded:
http://instagram.com/p/Bo1h73pCUuO
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Warm Gun on Oct 12, 2018 19:51:45 GMT 1, Do you think it was pre shredded and fed through using battery powered rollers?
Do you think it was pre shredded and fed through using battery powered rollers? Yes, I can't see any other way of doing it. |
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by jimbofatz on Oct 12, 2018 20:16:56 GMT 1, A magician you say...I call him an illusionist/mystic Derren Brown.
banksyunofficial.com/who-is-banksy/
3D, Inkie, Brown
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by unkle77 on Oct 12, 2018 21:23:56 GMT 1, Do you think it was pre shredded and fed through using battery powered rollers? Yes, I can't see any other way of doing it.
I would have to agree.. the video Banksy posted. the exacto knives seen in the beginning are at a bigger distance from each other as the shredded piece. Also, the video of it being shredded, it looks (obvious to me but hey maybe not) like the shredded piece was just fed through the bottom and the piece in the frame is a separate piece altogether (almost looks like a lcd screen).
Do you think it was pre shredded and fed through using battery powered rollers? Yes, I can't see any other way of doing it. I would have to agree.. the video Banksy posted. the exacto knives seen in the beginning are at a bigger distance from each other as the shredded piece. Also, the video of it being shredded, it looks (obvious to me but hey maybe not) like the shredded piece was just fed through the bottom and the piece in the frame is a separate piece altogether (almost looks like a lcd screen). |
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Chris JL on Oct 12, 2018 22:07:35 GMT 1, Conspiracy theories everywhere. Thatโs really the age of alternative facts.
Conspiracy theories everywhere. Thatโs really the age of alternative facts.
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Lroy on Oct 13, 2018 6:29:01 GMT 1, Mabey Jo was his ex-wife  Great bit of performance art. I enjoyed it- Bravo.
Itโs part of the prank.
โ hello Jo ( Brooks ) you are in there โ ! Check ๐
Mabey Jo was his ex-wife Great bit of performance art. I enjoyed it- Bravo. Itโs part of the prank. โ hello Jo ( Brooks ) you are in there โ ! Check ๐ |
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by detail on Oct 13, 2018 7:18:08 GMT 1, Anyone heading down to Sotheby's to take a look at it in person this weekend?
Anyone heading down to Sotheby's to take a look at it in person this weekend?
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Coach on Oct 13, 2018 8:52:04 GMT 1, Nice to hear Gompertz perspective on it. This line is quite the statement: โThis is what I think about Love is in the Bin. It will come to be seen as one of the most significant artworks of the early 21st Century.โ -Gompertz Thanks for posting naughtyshorty
Indeed. Iโve got a lot of time for Gompertz, having heard him regularly on the radio. A glowing critique indeed.
Nice to hear Gompertz perspective on it. This line is quite the statement: โThis is what I think about Love is in the Bin. It will come to be seen as one of the most significant artworks of the early 21st Century.โ -Gompertz Thanks for posting naughtyshortyIndeed. Iโve got a lot of time for Gompertz, having heard him regularly on the radio. A glowing critique indeed. |
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by naughtyshorty on Oct 13, 2018 9:27:30 GMT 1, From my perspective, getting this perspective and โendorsementโ of Banksy from the traditional art world is a v clear endorsement of Banksys talent and position in the history of art. This may sound a bit grandiose, but it is further validation of the fact that Banksy really is up there with the greats, and we arenโt just a bunch of deluded collectors
From my perspective, getting this perspective and โendorsementโ of Banksy from the traditional art world is a v clear endorsement of Banksys talent and position in the history of art. This may sound a bit grandiose, but it is further validation of the fact that Banksy really is up there with the greats, and we arenโt just a bunch of deluded collectors
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 10:32:46 GMT 1, Mabey Jo was his ex-wife Great bit of performance art. I enjoyed it- Bravo.
Banksy is a performance artist as well as a graffiti artist. Many of his works are really performance art; the 'art' is in the reaction and the fallout from his works. It's not about how he did it or who was in on the act; it's about the act itself and the meaning of the act.
Mabey Jo was his ex-wife Great bit of performance art. I enjoyed it- Bravo. It's nice to see at least one person 'gets it'. Banksy is a performance artist as well as a graffiti artist. Many of his works are really performance art; the 'art' is in the reaction and the fallout from his works. It's not about how he did it or who was in on the act; it's about the act itself and the meaning of the act. |
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by moron on Oct 13, 2018 15:28:10 GMT 1, Do you think it was pre shredded and fed through using battery powered rollers? Yes, I can't see any other way of doing it.
Here is a very simple way of making a shredder in a frame.
Do you think it was pre shredded and fed through using battery powered rollers? Yes, I can't see any other way of doing it. On the other hand maybe he did put a shredder in the bottom part of the frame. I think the video showing him building the shredder is fake. Here is a very simple way of making a shredder in a frame. |
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by moron on Oct 13, 2018 15:30:30 GMT 1, Derren Brown, makes great portraits. His less cartoony ones are excellant. Have a sort of baroque feel about them in some ways.
Derren Brown, makes great portraits. His less cartoony ones are excellant. Have a sort of baroque feel about them in some ways. |
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by moron on Oct 13, 2018 15:36:37 GMT 1, If people watch the video of the auction. Notice as soon as the hammer comes down, the auctioneer appears to press something underneath his rostrum. Some have suggested he pushes a button to start the shredding.
The stunt gained the publicity that Banksy desired and also generated the it's worth two million now mega high price that Banksy loves too.
I don't believe Sothebys guy was not in on it and how many people belive that the bids on this item were genuine, not shill bid up by Banksy and the buyer is involved with Banksy.
I hope that is not the case otherwise it looks like fraud and Banksy artifiacially fixing his prices. Which could backfire.
As for it's the best thing since Duchamp took a dump.
For some maybe. To me it's just a witty stunt and media backed the same way that celebrity side boob photos generate attention.
If people watch the video of the auction. Notice as soon as the hammer comes down, the auctioneer appears to press something underneath his rostrum. Some have suggested he pushes a button to start the shredding.
The stunt gained the publicity that Banksy desired and also generated the it's worth two million now mega high price that Banksy loves too.
I don't believe Sothebys guy was not in on it and how many people belive that the bids on this item were genuine, not shill bid up by Banksy and the buyer is involved with Banksy.
I hope that is not the case otherwise it looks like fraud and Banksy artifiacially fixing his prices. Which could backfire.
As for it's the best thing since Duchamp took a dump.
For some maybe. To me it's just a witty stunt and media backed the same way that celebrity side boob photos generate attention.
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Whitefish on Oct 13, 2018 15:47:13 GMT 1, BRILLIANT
http://instagram.com/p/BolsAXyAgzF
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by samfrost on Oct 13, 2018 15:52:04 GMT 1, It would be amusing to see the "shredding" completed while on display at Sotheby's...
It would be amusing to see the "shredding" completed while on display at Sotheby's...
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 16:09:16 GMT 1, If people watch the video of the auction. Notice as soon as the hammer comes down, the auctioneer appears to press something underneath his rostrum. Some have suggested he pushes a button to start the shredding. The stunt gained the publicity that Banksy desired and also generated the it's worth two million now mega high price that Banksy loves too. I don't believe Sothebys guy was not in on it and how many people belive that the bids on this item were genuine, not shill bid up by Banksy and the buyer is involved with Banksy. I hope that is not the case otherwise it looks like fraud and Banksy artifiacially fixing his prices. Which could backfire. As for it's the best thing since Duchamp took a dump. For some maybe. To me it's just a witty stunt and media backed the same way that celebrity side boob photos generate attention.
If people watch the video of the auction. Notice as soon as the hammer comes down, the auctioneer appears to press something underneath his rostrum. Some have suggested he pushes a button to start the shredding. The stunt gained the publicity that Banksy desired and also generated the it's worth two million now mega high price that Banksy loves too. I don't believe Sothebys guy was not in on it and how many people belive that the bids on this item were genuine, not shill bid up by Banksy and the buyer is involved with Banksy. I hope that is not the case otherwise it looks like fraud and Banksy artifiacially fixing his prices. Which could backfire. As for it's the best thing since Duchamp took a dump. For some maybe. To me it's just a witty stunt and media backed the same way that celebrity side boob photos generate attention. I've never taken much notice before but I would suggest that perhaps the auctioneer "pushes a button" after every lot sale. If he doesn't then I'm guessing somebody else does simply to set the bidding screen back to zero again in preparation for the next lot. |
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Rouen Cathedral on Oct 14, 2018 2:49:26 GMT 1, I've been going back and forth on this.
At first take it was brilliant. It didn't matter if it was six years in making or a recent scheme.
But if the painting didn't actually get damaged or Sotheby's was in on it. It just seems so gimmicky and loses something.
At this stage banksy shouldn't be a gimmick.
I've been going back and forth on this.
At first take it was brilliant. It didn't matter if it was six years in making or a recent scheme.
But if the painting didn't actually get damaged or Sotheby's was in on it. It just seems so gimmicky and loses something.
At this stage banksy shouldn't be a gimmick.
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Laugh Now 10 on Oct 14, 2018 5:39:40 GMT 1, people are analyzing this scenario incorrectly. what Banksy accomplished needs to be viewed from the perspective of either someone who was in the auction house at the time of the shredding or someone who heard the news second hand, and for the first time, shortly thereafter. itโs too easy to over analyze it now. try to remember what it felt like when it happened. when you first heard about it or, even better, saw it happen. what shock and glory. and thatโs the feeling that rippled through the art world and popular culture. thatโs the feeling that resonated.
people are analyzing this scenario incorrectly. what Banksy accomplished needs to be viewed from the perspective of either someone who was in the auction house at the time of the shredding or someone who heard the news second hand, and for the first time, shortly thereafter. itโs too easy to over analyze it now. try to remember what it felt like when it happened. when you first heard about it or, even better, saw it happen. what shock and glory. and thatโs the feeling that rippled through the art world and popular culture. thatโs the feeling that resonated.
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by d.r. perseus on Oct 14, 2018 6:10:09 GMT 1, It was fun. Bottom line. Interesting which I haven't heard anyone say given the analysis is within the frame is the original and the shredded piece therefore if the buyer so chose could have the intact piece removed.
How would PC react to that I wonder? We have to assume part of the viewable image in the frame is the half rolled intact image..is the shredded piece even a complete image requiring the two forever bound ?
Still fun to contemplate
It was fun. Bottom line. Interesting which I haven't heard anyone say given the analysis is within the frame is the original and the shredded piece therefore if the buyer so chose could have the intact piece removed.
How would PC react to that I wonder? We have to assume part of the viewable image in the frame is the half rolled intact image..is the shredded piece even a complete image requiring the two forever bound ?
Still fun to contemplate
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Rouen Cathedral on Oct 14, 2018 12:10:42 GMT 1, people are analyzing this scenario incorrectly. what Banksy accomplished needs to be viewed from the perspective of either someone who was in the auction house at the time of the shredding or someone who heard the news second hand, and for the first time, shortly thereafter. itโs too easy to over analyze it now. try to remember what it felt like when it happened. when you first heard about it or, even better, saw it happen. what shock and glory. and thatโs the feeling that rippled through the art world and popular culture. thatโs the feeling that resonated.
Sure I get this and I think to an extent you may be right.
But if he worked directly with Sotheby's to pull this off or didn't actually damage the painting it reduces it to a cheap stunt.
I think banksy has proven his 'works' of recent aren't just cheap stunts. (boti, dismaland, walled off).
people are analyzing this scenario incorrectly. what Banksy accomplished needs to be viewed from the perspective of either someone who was in the auction house at the time of the shredding or someone who heard the news second hand, and for the first time, shortly thereafter. itโs too easy to over analyze it now. try to remember what it felt like when it happened. when you first heard about it or, even better, saw it happen. what shock and glory. and thatโs the feeling that rippled through the art world and popular culture. thatโs the feeling that resonated. Sure I get this and I think to an extent you may be right. But if he worked directly with Sotheby's to pull this off or didn't actually damage the painting it reduces it to a cheap stunt. I think banksy has proven his 'works' of recent aren't just cheap stunts. (boti, dismaland, walled off). |
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Fake on Oct 14, 2018 13:15:53 GMT 1, It is a hole but only to show the signature?
http://instagram.com/p/Bo3xkTYlHs3
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by jimbofatz on Oct 14, 2018 14:27:05 GMT 1, Banksy is in the bin I tried to erase the Love and was beaten to a pulp. I tried to say "you've been banksy'd" but the combat boots kept reigning upon my head as they viciously circled danced around me.
Banksy is in the bin I tried to erase the Love and was beaten to a pulp. I tried to say "you've been banksy'd" but the combat boots kept reigning upon my head as they viciously circled danced around me.
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 14:53:25 GMT 1, I heard from a very reliable source that the frame is supposed to drop to the ground mid exhibition. This is just the start.
I heard from a very reliable source that the frame is supposed to drop to the ground mid exhibition. This is just the start.
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A Banksy Painting 'Self-Destructed' Sold for $1.1Million, by eyectopus on Oct 14, 2018 16:23:18 GMT 1, It was fun. Bottom line. Interesting which I haven't heard anyone say given the analysis is within the frame is the original and the shredded piece therefore if the buyer so chose could have the intact piece removed. How would PC react to that I wonder? We have to assume part of the viewable image in the frame is the half rolled intact image..is the shredded piece even a complete image requiring the two forever bound ? Still fun to contemplate
Even if there is a full image inside rolled up, it would have been set up that was as a possibly more reliable mechanism than shredding. I don't think a piece rolled up would be seen as the original. The original is the total of all the parts used, the frame, full image if it exists, the shredded part and the mechanism inside. If the owner choose to display separately they would have dismantled the original.
It was fun. Bottom line. Interesting which I haven't heard anyone say given the analysis is within the frame is the original and the shredded piece therefore if the buyer so chose could have the intact piece removed. How would PC react to that I wonder? We have to assume part of the viewable image in the frame is the half rolled intact image..is the shredded piece even a complete image requiring the two forever bound ? Still fun to contemplate Even if there is a full image inside rolled up, it would have been set up that was as a possibly more reliable mechanism than shredding. I don't think a piece rolled up would be seen as the original. The original is the total of all the parts used, the frame, full image if it exists, the shredded part and the mechanism inside. If the owner choose to display separately they would have dismantled the original. |
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