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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Coach on Sept 14, 2019 23:41:43 GMT 1, At Sotheby’s.
I’d imagine that this will break the record for a Banksy work.
Assuming it’s the piece from Bristol Museum show, not only is it fabulous, but it’s also huge!
At Sotheby’s.
I’d imagine that this will break the record for a Banksy work.
Assuming it’s the piece from Bristol Museum show, not only is it fabulous, but it’s also huge!
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Coach on Sept 14, 2019 23:52:22 GMT 1, Estimate of £1.5-2 million. I’d guess around £3m.
Estimate of £1.5-2 million. I’d guess around £3m.
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by mack on Sept 15, 2019 0:00:36 GMT 1, Estimate of £1.5-2 million. I’d guess around £3m.
Estimate of £1.5-2 million. I’d guess around £3m. Sounds reasonable, especially considering the timing of the auction |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Pawel on Sept 15, 2019 0:00:37 GMT 1, Estimate of £1.5-2 million. I’d guess around £3m.
I'd guess around £10m
Estimate of £1.5-2 million. I’d guess around £3m. I'd guess around £10m |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by jB on Sept 15, 2019 17:43:41 GMT 1, Are there two versions of this work? One with the lights on and one with the lights off? This looks to be the one that was displayed at the Bristol Museum.
Are there two versions of this work? One with the lights on and one with the lights off? This looks to be the one that was displayed at the Bristol Museum.
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Fake on Sept 15, 2019 18:15:37 GMT 1, I will be bidding on this for sure!
I will be bidding on this for sure!
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Lazarus II on Sept 15, 2019 18:33:46 GMT 1, Estimate of £1.5-2 million. I’d guess around £3m. Sounds reasonable, especially considering the timing of the auction
reasonable at £3M, would love any of your cast offs 😊
Estimate of £1.5-2 million. I’d guess around £3m. Sounds reasonable, especially considering the timing of the auction reasonable at £3M, would love any of your cast offs 😊 |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by lee3 on Sept 15, 2019 19:17:34 GMT 1, Are there two versions of this work? One with the lights on and one with the lights off? This looks to be the one that was displayed at the Bristol Museum.
Are there two versions of this work? One with the lights on and one with the lights off? This looks to be the one that was displayed at the Bristol Museum. Wow, keen eye. I hadn't noticed that previously. I'd speculate this a case of the artist performing substantial rework post show as he did with many other works from the museum but only PC would know for certain. It looks far better with the lights off to me. |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Fast Eddie on Sept 15, 2019 19:29:51 GMT 1, I naively thought this was a gift to the Bristol Museum... This and the Volvo truck should be available for all to see.
I naively thought this was a gift to the Bristol Museum... This and the Volvo truck should be available for all to see.
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Coach on Sept 15, 2019 20:37:26 GMT 1, I naively thought this was a gift to the Bristol Museum... This and the Volvo truck should be available for all to see.
I don’t know who owns it or who is selling it, but tend to take the view that an artist should always be able to sell their work. But I do agree with you. I would hope that this is an occasion where a wealthy museum can buy it. Perhaps it’s a good opportunity for lottery funding to be put to good use.
I naively thought this was a gift to the Bristol Museum... This and the Volvo truck should be available for all to see. I don’t know who owns it or who is selling it, but tend to take the view that an artist should always be able to sell their work. But I do agree with you. I would hope that this is an occasion where a wealthy museum can buy it. Perhaps it’s a good opportunity for lottery funding to be put to good use. |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Sept 15, 2019 20:41:30 GMT 1, The Tate should buy it 👍
The Tate should buy it 👍
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by 19818914 on Sept 15, 2019 21:16:26 GMT 1, I was there a few months ago. The canvas is a high quality print with hand finished elements.
That’s what the information read. However, it was so well done I could not distinguish print from paint.
I was there a few months ago. The canvas is a high quality print with hand finished elements.
That’s what the information read. However, it was so well done I could not distinguish print from paint.
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Adam The Collector on Sept 15, 2019 21:26:35 GMT 1, Can’t wait to watch this one set fire upon the sound of the hammer. Surely will set a new record given its monstrous size!
Can’t wait to watch this one set fire upon the sound of the hammer. Surely will set a new record given its monstrous size!
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Coach on Sept 15, 2019 21:35:05 GMT 1, I was there a few months ago. The canvas is a high quality print with hand finished elements. That’s what the information read. However, it was so well done I could not distinguish print from paint.
This might suggest it’s a large hand finished print.
I don’t think that’s the case.
I was there a few months ago. The canvas is a high quality print with hand finished elements. That’s what the information read. However, it was so well done I could not distinguish print from paint. This might suggest it’s a large hand finished print. I don’t think that’s the case. |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Extra Ball on Sept 15, 2019 21:38:39 GMT 1, damn that you're handsome
damn that you're handsome
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by 19818914 on Sept 15, 2019 21:49:12 GMT 1, I was there a few months ago. The canvas is a high quality print with hand finished elements. That’s what the information read. However, it was so well done I could not distinguish print from paint. This might suggest it’s a large hand finished print. I don’t think that’s the case.
It was on the museum placard but perhaps
Worded differently. I think it was printed image and paint. I should have snapped a pic.
I was there a few months ago. The canvas is a high quality print with hand finished elements. That’s what the information read. However, it was so well done I could not distinguish print from paint. This might suggest it’s a large hand finished print. I don’t think that’s the case. It was on the museum placard but perhaps Worded differently. I think it was printed image and paint. I should have snapped a pic. |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Viking Surfer on Sept 15, 2019 22:10:00 GMT 1, One of the greatest Banksy originals of all time.
I think it will fetch 6.5m.
One of the greatest Banksy originals of all time.
I think it will fetch 6.5m.
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Coach on Sept 15, 2019 22:33:32 GMT 1, This might suggest it’s a large hand finished print. I don’t think that’s the case. It was on the museum placard but perhaps Worded differently. I think it was printed image and paint. I should have snapped a pic.
It’s not at all clear to me.
I know the sign you mean.
But then, this is what Sotheby’s say on their website:
signed; signed, dated 09 on the reverse and variously inscribed on the stretcher
oil on canvas
276 by 446 cm. 108 5/8 by 175 1/2 in.
www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2019/contemporary-art-evening-auction-l19024/lot.28.html?locale=en
This might suggest it’s a large hand finished print. I don’t think that’s the case. It was on the museum placard but perhaps Worded differently. I think it was printed image and paint. I should have snapped a pic. It’s not at all clear to me. I know the sign you mean. But then, this is what Sotheby’s say on their website: signed; signed, dated 09 on the reverse and variously inscribed on the stretcher oil on canvas 276 by 446 cm. 108 5/8 by 175 1/2 in. www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2019/contemporary-art-evening-auction-l19024/lot.28.html?locale=en |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by 19818914 on Sept 15, 2019 22:45:17 GMT 1,
Thanks. You know what it could be? - I used to do this in art school. I’d blow up a collage -created in photoshop - on the photocopier and glue it on to a board. Then I’d paint right over it. The photocopy would be completely covered by the paint by the time i was finished. It was a way to streamline my illustration projects. Perhaps it was printed on canvas as a guide and then completely painted over.
Thanks. You know what it could be? - I used to do this in art school. I’d blow up a collage -created in photoshop - on the photocopier and glue it on to a board. Then I’d paint right over it. The photocopy would be completely covered by the paint by the time i was finished. It was a way to streamline my illustration projects. Perhaps it was printed on canvas as a guide and then completely painted over. |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Coach on Sept 15, 2019 23:03:09 GMT 1, Thanks. You know what it could be? - I used to do this in art school. I’d blow up a collage -created in photoshop - on the photocopier and glue it on to a board. Then I’d paint right over it. The photocopy would be completely covered by the paint by the time i was finished. It was a way to streamline my illustration projects. Perhaps it was printed on canvas as a guide and then completely painted over.
The same thing has occurred to me; but I do not know.
Thanks. You know what it could be? - I used to do this in art school. I’d blow up a collage -created in photoshop - on the photocopier and glue it on to a board. Then I’d paint right over it. The photocopy would be completely covered by the paint by the time i was finished. It was a way to streamline my illustration projects. Perhaps it was printed on canvas as a guide and then completely painted over. The same thing has occurred to me; but I do not know. |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by met on Sept 15, 2019 23:18:42 GMT 1, Are there two versions of this work? One with the lights on and one with the lights off? This looks to be the one that was displayed at the Bristol Museum. Wow, keen eye. I hadn't noticed that previously. I'd speculate this a case of the artist performing substantial rework post show as he did with many other works from the museum but only PC would know for certain. It looks far better with the lights off to me.
Changes to the lighting were mentioned by hnkpnk as well in this post from the thread titled Monkey Parliament back in Bristol*.
The artwork had by this point also been renamed Devolved Parliament.
Not only are the lights off, the pendant lamps were actually painted out. These were probably seen as leading the viewer's eye away from the main focal point.
The Commons Chamber, Palace of Westminster
Monkey Parliament, Bristol Museum, 2009
Devolved Parliament, Bristol Museum, 2019
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A separate aspect has yet to be discussed. I'm unclear about whether it represents a conscious and deliberate decision by Banksy, or if it was done without full consideration to the layout of the Commons Chamber.
Besides the floor of the chamber which features Members of Parliament, the Visitors' Gallery — an area reserved for members of the public — is also occupied by apes.
Devolved Parliament (detail of Visitors' Gallery), Bristol Museum, 2019
Are there two versions of this work? One with the lights on and one with the lights off? This looks to be the one that was displayed at the Bristol Museum. Wow, keen eye. I hadn't noticed that previously. I'd speculate this a case of the artist performing substantial rework post show as he did with many other works from the museum but only PC would know for certain. It looks far better with the lights off to me. Changes to the lighting were mentioned by hnkpnk as well in this post from the thread titled Monkey Parliament back in Bristol*. The artwork had by this point also been renamed Devolved Parliament. Not only are the lights off, the pendant lamps were actually painted out. These were probably seen as leading the viewer's eye away from the main focal point. The Commons Chamber, Palace of WestminsterMonkey Parliament, Bristol Museum, 2009Devolved Parliament, Bristol Museum, 2019__________ A separate aspect has yet to be discussed. I'm unclear about whether it represents a conscious and deliberate decision by Ban ksy, or if it was done without full consideration to the layout of the Commons Chamber. Besides the floor of the chamber which features Members of Parliament, the Visitors' Gallery — an area reserved for members of the public — is also occupied by apes. Devolved Parliament (detail of Visitors' Gallery), Bristol Museum, 2019 |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by covertshadowops on Sept 15, 2019 23:45:06 GMT 1, Could we see another stunt??? It was Sothebys last time with the “shredding “ fisaco.
I think it could be on the cards........  (I called it first!)
Could we see another stunt??? It was Sothebys last time with the “shredding “ fisaco. I think it could be on the cards........ (I called it first!) |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Coach on Sept 15, 2019 23:52:59 GMT 1, Wow, keen eye. I hadn't noticed that previously. I'd speculate this a case of the artist performing substantial rework post show as he did with many other works from the museum but only PC would know for certain. It looks far better with the lights off to me. Changes to the lighting were mentioned by hnkpnk as well in this post from the thread titled Monkey Parliament back in Bristol*. The artwork had by this point also been renamed Devolved Parliament. Not only are the lights off, the pendant lamps were actually painted out. These were probably seen as leading the viewer's eye away from the main focal point. The Commons Chamber, Palace of WestminsterMonkey Parliament, Bristol Museum, 2009Devolved Parliament, Bristol Museum, 2019__________ A separate aspect has yet to be discussed. I'm unclear about whether it represents a conscious and deliberate decision by Ban ksy, or if it was done without full consideration to the layout of the Commons Chamber. Besides the floor of the chamber which features Members of Parliament, the Visitors' Gallery — an area reserved for members of the public — is also occupied by apes. Devolved Parliament (detail of Visitors' Gallery), Bristol Museum, 2019
According to Sotheby’s, it’s not a 2019 work.
Their website states its dated 09, and was bought by the current owner in 2011.
Incidentally, they also seem to indicate that it was exhibited as part of the Banksy vrs Bristol Museum show in 09.
“PROVENANCE
The Artist
Acquired from the above by the present owner in 2011
EXHIBITED
Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy versus Bristol Museum, June - August, 2009
Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy’s Devolved Parliament, March - September 2019”
Wow, keen eye. I hadn't noticed that previously. I'd speculate this a case of the artist performing substantial rework post show as he did with many other works from the museum but only PC would know for certain. It looks far better with the lights off to me. Changes to the lighting were mentioned by hnkpnk as well in this post from the thread titled Monkey Parliament back in Bristol*. The artwork had by this point also been renamed Devolved Parliament. Not only are the lights off, the pendant lamps were actually painted out. These were probably seen as leading the viewer's eye away from the main focal point. The Commons Chamber, Palace of WestminsterMonkey Parliament, Bristol Museum, 2009Devolved Parliament, Bristol Museum, 2019__________ A separate aspect has yet to be discussed. I'm unclear about whether it represents a conscious and deliberate decision by Ban ksy, or if it was done without full consideration to the layout of the Commons Chamber. Besides the floor of the chamber which features Members of Parliament, the Visitors' Gallery — an area reserved for members of the public — is also occupied by apes. Devolved Parliament (detail of Visitors' Gallery), Bristol Museum, 2019According to Sotheby’s, it’s not a 2019 work. Their website states its dated 09, and was bought by the current owner in 2011. Incidentally, they also seem to indicate that it was exhibited as part of the Banksy vrs Bristol Museum show in 09. “PROVENANCE The Artist Acquired from the above by the present owner in 2011 EXHIBITED Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy versus Bristol Museum, June - August, 2009 Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy’s Devolved Parliament, March - September 2019” |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by met on Sept 16, 2019 0:21:52 GMT 1, According to Sotheby’s, it’s not a 2019 work. Their website states its dated 09, and was bought by the current owner in 2011. Incidentally, they also seem to indicate that it was exhibited as part of the Banksy vrs Bristol Museum show in 09. “PROVENANCE The Artist Acquired from the above by the present owner in 2011 EXHIBITED Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy versus Bristol Museum, June - August, 2009 Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy’s Devolved Parliament, March - September 2019”
Sorry, that was a poor presentation by me.
My references to 2019 were meant to be read as "photo taken in 2019" or "as displayed in 2019".
They weren't intended to refer to the year of creation.
According to Sotheby’s, it’s not a 2019 work. Their website states its dated 09, and was bought by the current owner in 2011. Incidentally, they also seem to indicate that it was exhibited as part of the Banksy vrs Bristol Museum show in 09. “PROVENANCE The Artist Acquired from the above by the present owner in 2011 EXHIBITED Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy versus Bristol Museum, June - August, 2009 Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy’s Devolved Parliament, March - September 2019” Sorry, that was a poor presentation by me. My references to 2019 were meant to be read as "photo taken in 2019" or "as displayed in 2019". They weren't intended to refer to the year of creation. |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Coach on Sept 16, 2019 1:01:03 GMT 1, According to Sotheby’s, it’s not a 2019 work. Their website states its dated 09, and was bought by the current owner in 2011. Incidentally, they also seem to indicate that it was exhibited as part of the Banksy vrs Bristol Museum show in 09. “PROVENANCE The Artist Acquired from the above by the present owner in 2011 EXHIBITED Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy versus Bristol Museum, June - August, 2009 Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy’s Devolved Parliament, March - September 2019” Sorry, that was a poor presentation by me. My references to 2019 were meant to be read as "photo taken in 2019" or "as displayed in 2019". They weren't intended to refer to the year of creation.
Thanks met. I hope you don’t think I was being pedantic.
According to Sotheby’s, it’s not a 2019 work. Their website states its dated 09, and was bought by the current owner in 2011. Incidentally, they also seem to indicate that it was exhibited as part of the Banksy vrs Bristol Museum show in 09. “PROVENANCE The Artist Acquired from the above by the present owner in 2011 EXHIBITED Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy versus Bristol Museum, June - August, 2009 Bristol, Bristol Museum & Art Gallery, Banksy’s Devolved Parliament, March - September 2019” Sorry, that was a poor presentation by me. My references to 2019 were meant to be read as "photo taken in 2019" or "as displayed in 2019". They weren't intended to refer to the year of creation. Thanks met. I hope you don’t think I was being pedantic. |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by met on Sept 16, 2019 1:20:20 GMT 1, Sorry, that was a poor presentation by me. My references to 2019 were meant to be read as "photo taken in 2019" or "as displayed in 2019". They weren't intended to refer to the year of creation. Thanks met. I hope you don’t think I was being pedantic.
No complaints from me. You're chatting with a cheerleader for pedantry, precision, clarity and nuance.
Whenever I'm responsible for a complete or partial failure, I certainly want to be made aware of it — to improve my chances of doing better the next time around.
Sorry, that was a poor presentation by me. My references to 2019 were meant to be read as "photo taken in 2019" or "as displayed in 2019". They weren't intended to refer to the year of creation. Thanks met. I hope you don’t think I was being pedantic. No complaints from me. You're chatting with a cheerleader for pedantry, precision, clarity and nuance. Whenever I'm responsible for a complete or partial failure, I certainly want to be made aware of it — to improve my chances of doing better the next time around. |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by tab1 on Sept 16, 2019 2:44:17 GMT 1, I was there a few months ago. The canvas is a high quality print with hand finished elements. That’s what the information read. However, it was so well done I could not distinguish print from paint.
I was there a few months ago. The canvas is a high quality print with hand finished elements. That’s what the information read. However, it was so well done I could not distinguish print from paint. Glicee print with clear varnish applied? |
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by adewilliams on Sept 16, 2019 7:19:15 GMT 1, At a time when some politicians are fighting for our democracy this is like a lazy Daily Mail headline for me, why would any museum interested in the advancement of culture be interested in this lame joke.
I think it's the wrong time to be displaying this
At a time when some politicians are fighting for our democracy this is like a lazy Daily Mail headline for me, why would any museum interested in the advancement of culture be interested in this lame joke.
I think it's the wrong time to be displaying this
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Banksy Monkey (Devolved) Parliament sells for £9.9Million, by Matt on Sept 16, 2019 7:56:20 GMT 1, At a time when some politicians are fighting for our democracy this is like a lazy Daily Mail headline for me, why would any museum interested in the advancement of culture be interested in this lame joke. I think it's the wrong time to be displaying this
Despite the fact that a handful of politicians, on both sides of the fence, do seem to be fighting for the general interest, the vast majority of them are displaying amazing amounts of self orientation like primates fighting for a banana.
This painting has never been more true and timely.
Interestingly the rest of the world has also been lamenting the death of a long admired parliament, frequently comparing it to a zoo
At a time when some politicians are fighting for our democracy this is like a lazy Daily Mail headline for me, why would any museum interested in the advancement of culture be interested in this lame joke. I think it's the wrong time to be displaying this Despite the fact that a handful of politicians, on both sides of the fence, do seem to be fighting for the general interest, the vast majority of them are displaying amazing amounts of self orientation like primates fighting for a banana. This painting has never been more true and timely. Interestingly the rest of the world has also been lamenting the death of a long admired parliament, frequently comparing it to a zoo |
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