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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 21:12:43 GMT 1, It could be unlimited gdp in store description - from an edition - fact 500 now and 500 later posted on lw - fact individually numbered - fact Iโll be the first to admit Iโm wrong. I thought for sure Banksy had something up his sleeve. exactly if it says 1000, why on earth would it be more than that? I've never seen an artist release something outside of an already specified edition number apart from ap and pp. until banksy or LW say ~ "actually f**kit well make 100000 of them, scrap the number thingy", its edition of 1000, fact
well we'll agree to disagree
They have not specified an editon of 1000 have they?
They have said 500 and then another 500, so they could say again another 500 etc etc
Artist wise, what did he do with the box sets and Sculptures?
you ask why on earth would it be more than 1000? You know the answer to that.
Let's say they do as everyone thinks and limit it at 1000. what happens then? All the refugee women stop working making these, what do they do? 30 odd women, redundancy?
I am viewing this like the walled off, Palestinians make the box sets, sculptures etc,
The artist has identified where his collector base can buy his stuff while again helping others less fortunate and has rolled it out to this venture.
Time will tell
I hope I am right as its the right thing to do. isn't it?
It could be unlimited gdp in store description - from an edition - fact 500 now and 500 later posted on lw - fact individually numbered - fact Iโll be the first to admit Iโm wrong. I thought for sure Banksy had something up his sleeve. exactly if it says 1000, why on earth would it be more than that? I've never seen an artist release something outside of an already specified edition number apart from ap and pp. until banksy or LW say ~ "actually f**kit well make 100000 of them, scrap the number thingy", its edition of 1000, fact well we'll agree to disagree They have not specified an editon of 1000 have they? They have said 500 and then another 500, so they could say again another 500 etc etc Artist wise, what did he do with the box sets and Sculptures? you ask why on earth would it be more than 1000? You know the answer to that. Let's say they do as everyone thinks and limit it at 1000. what happens then? All the refugee women stop working making these, what do they do? 30 odd women, redundancy? I am viewing this like the walled off, Palestinians make the box sets, sculptures etc, The artist has identified where his collector base can buy his stuff while again helping others less fortunate and has rolled it out to this venture. Time will tell I hope I am right as its the right thing to do. isn't it?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 19, 2020 21:12:50 GMT 1, Just sitting back watching all the negative comments about these mats and sipping tea...
But Iโm the โbanksy haterโ lol
Just sitting back watching all the negative comments about these mats and sipping tea...
But Iโm the โbanksy haterโ lol
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touchdowntodd
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by touchdowntodd on Feb 19, 2020 21:17:35 GMT 1, exactly if it says 1000, why on earth would it be more than that? I've never seen an artist release something outside of an already specified edition number apart from ap and pp. until banksy or LW say ~ "actually f**kit well make 100000 of them, scrap the number thingy", its edition of 1000, fact well we'll agree to disagree They have not specified an editon of 1000 have they? They have said 500 and then another 500, so they could say again another 500 etc etc Artist wise, what did he do with the box sets and Sculptures? ย you ask why on earth would it be more than 1000? You know the answer to that. Let's say they do as everyone thinks and limit it at 1000. what happens then? All the refugee women stop working making these, what do they do? 30 odd women, redundancy? I am viewing this like the walled off, Palestinians make the box sets, sculptures etc,ย The artist has identified where his collector base can buy his stuff while again helping others less fortunate and has rolled it out to this venture. Time will tell I hope I am right as its the right thing to do. isn't it?
Difference is walled-off is keeping his hotel open.. 1000 of these, and a 500k charitable donation basically is a huge enough statement.
They have a sustainable business of their own. I happily bought other, affordble, and very well made things from them
exactly if it says 1000, why on earth would it be more than that? I've never seen an artist release something outside of an already specified edition number apart from ap and pp. until banksy or LW say ~ "actually f**kit well make 100000 of them, scrap the number thingy", its edition of 1000, fact well we'll agree to disagree They have not specified an editon of 1000 have they? They have said 500 and then another 500, so they could say again another 500 etc etc Artist wise, what did he do with the box sets and Sculptures? ย you ask why on earth would it be more than 1000? You know the answer to that. Let's say they do as everyone thinks and limit it at 1000. what happens then? All the refugee women stop working making these, what do they do? 30 odd women, redundancy? I am viewing this like the walled off, Palestinians make the box sets, sculptures etc,ย The artist has identified where his collector base can buy his stuff while again helping others less fortunate and has rolled it out to this venture. Time will tell I hope I am right as its the right thing to do. isn't it? Difference is walled-off is keeping his hotel open.. 1000 of these, and a 500k charitable donation basically is a huge enough statement. They have a sustainable business of their own. I happily bought other, affordble, and very well made things from them
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by cest on Feb 19, 2020 21:18:00 GMT 1, exactly if it says 1000, why on earth would it be more than that? I've never seen an artist release something outside of an already specified edition number apart from ap and pp. until banksy or LW say ~ "actually f**kit well make 100000 of them, scrap the number thingy", its edition of 1000, fact well we'll agree to disagree They have not specified an editon of 1000 have they? They have said 500 and then another 500, so they could say again another 500 etc etc Artist wise, what did he do with the box sets and Sculptures? ย you ask why on earth would it be more than 1000? You know the answer to that. Let's say they do as everyone thinks and limit it at 1000. what happens then? All the refugee women stop working making these, what do they do? 30 odd women, redundancy? I am viewing this like the walled off, Palestinians make the box sets, sculptures etc,ย The artist has identified where his collector base can buy his stuff while again helping others less fortunate and has rolled it out to this venture. Time will tell I hope I am right as its the right thing to do. isn't it?
I am too... Thousands will be made
exactly if it says 1000, why on earth would it be more than that? I've never seen an artist release something outside of an already specified edition number apart from ap and pp. until banksy or LW say ~ "actually f**kit well make 100000 of them, scrap the number thingy", its edition of 1000, fact well we'll agree to disagree They have not specified an editon of 1000 have they? They have said 500 and then another 500, so they could say again another 500 etc etc Artist wise, what did he do with the box sets and Sculptures? ย you ask why on earth would it be more than 1000? You know the answer to that. Let's say they do as everyone thinks and limit it at 1000. what happens then? All the refugee women stop working making these, what do they do? 30 odd women, redundancy? I am viewing this like the walled off, Palestinians make the box sets, sculptures etc,ย The artist has identified where his collector base can buy his stuff while again helping others less fortunate and has rolled it out to this venture. Time will tell I hope I am right as its the right thing to do. isn't it? I am too... Thousands will be made
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 19, 2020 21:21:18 GMT 1, Just sitting back watching all the negative comments about these mats and sipping tea... But Iโm the โbanksy haterโ lol
Just sitting back watching all the negative comments about these mats and sipping tea... But Iโm the โbanksy haterโ lol
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by kistlebop on Feb 19, 2020 21:21:40 GMT 1, I was lucky enough to order one of the mats and I live in the United States and I'm not received a shipping notice as of yet. Has anybody seen what the tag for GDP looks like and how the numbering system is? I've seen a few pictures of the mats being delivered on this forum but no one is showing what the tag looks like.... And I'm sad that nobody is getting the free bonus artwork that was teased about. I was really hoping to get my priceless Banksy along with my mat!LOL
I was lucky enough to order one of the mats and I live in the United States and I'm not received a shipping notice as of yet. Has anybody seen what the tag for GDP looks like and how the numbering system is? I've seen a few pictures of the mats being delivered on this forum but no one is showing what the tag looks like.... And I'm sad that nobody is getting the free bonus artwork that was teased about. I was really hoping to get my priceless Banksy along with my mat!LOL
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 19, 2020 21:30:06 GMT 1, I was lucky enough to order one of the mats and I live in the United States and I'm not received a shipping notice as of yet. Has anybody seen what the tag for GDP looks like and how the numbering system is? I've seen a few pictures of the mats being delivered on this forum but no one is showing what the tag looks like.... And I'm sad that nobody is getting the free bonus artwork that was teased about. I was really hoping to get my priceless Banksy along with my mat!LOL I don't think anyone in the states has received tracking yet.
There are photos of the tag in this thread and on IG.
I don't think any bonus artwork was teased about but they certainly did go out of their way to draw attention to the GDP label when they sold round 1, not sure why, it's fine but definitely not worth the tease.
That said I had a theory of art/design based on them needing to fulfill certain TM requirements and that wasn't done on these mats either.
Banksy moves in mysterious ways I guess?
I was lucky enough to order one of the mats and I live in the United States and I'm not received a shipping notice as of yet. Has anybody seen what the tag for GDP looks like and how the numbering system is? I've seen a few pictures of the mats being delivered on this forum but no one is showing what the tag looks like.... And I'm sad that nobody is getting the free bonus artwork that was teased about. I was really hoping to get my priceless Banksy along with my mat!LOL I don't think anyone in the states has received tracking yet. There are photos of the tag in this thread and on IG. I don't think any bonus artwork was teased about but they certainly did go out of their way to draw attention to the GDP label when they sold round 1, not sure why, it's fine but definitely not worth the tease. That said I had a theory of art/design based on them needing to fulfill certain TM requirements and that wasn't done on these mats either. Banksy moves in mysterious ways I guess?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by corbu on Feb 19, 2020 21:33:57 GMT 1, I was lucky enough to order one of the mats and I live in the United States and I'm not received a shipping notice as of yet. Has anybody seen what the tag for GDP looks like and how the numbering system is? I've seen a few pictures of the mats being delivered on this forum but no one is showing what the tag looks like.... And I'm sad that nobody is getting the free bonus artwork that was teased about. I was really hoping to get my priceless Banksy along with my mat!LOL
Interesting that GDP takes up most of the space on the label. Only a small mention of love welcomes.
I was lucky enough to order one of the mats and I live in the United States and I'm not received a shipping notice as of yet. Has anybody seen what the tag for GDP looks like and how the numbering system is? I've seen a few pictures of the mats being delivered on this forum but no one is showing what the tag looks like.... And I'm sad that nobody is getting the free bonus artwork that was teased about. I was really hoping to get my priceless Banksy along with my mat!LOL
Interesting that GDP takes up most of the space on the label. Only a small mention of love welcomes.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by laguy34 on Feb 19, 2020 21:36:27 GMT 1, No offense but the opposite also applies.
Where have they ever said they were going to make these indefinitely?! It has been to the contrary, with the original 500 now and 500 later statement. And then the email that said "not everyone will get one but we can at least let you know when they go on sale" and of course the GDP "From an Edition" description.
Love welcomes could easily say "we will make these as long as we can, don't buy otherwise" But they actually said, "Next 500"
And again, I would like to bring up counterfeit ones. What happens when they keep making them, charge $500, and fakes start showing up for $100?
Why would anyone buy the expensive one when there is a much cheaper option? What happens when people start emailing Love Welcomes asking if they have a real one?
All these people claiming that they are unlimited yet there is zero indication that is the case.
No offense but the opposite also applies.
Where have they ever said they were going to make these indefinitely?! It has been to the contrary, with the original 500 now and 500 later statement. And then the email that said "not everyone will get one but we can at least let you know when they go on sale" and of course the GDP "From an Edition" description.
Love welcomes could easily say "we will make these as long as we can, don't buy otherwise" But they actually said, "Next 500"
And again, I would like to bring up counterfeit ones. What happens when they keep making them, charge $500, and fakes start showing up for $100?
Why would anyone buy the expensive one when there is a much cheaper option? What happens when people start emailing Love Welcomes asking if they have a real one?
All these people claiming that they are unlimited yet there is zero indication that is the case.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by kuni on Feb 19, 2020 21:38:14 GMT 1, I think it would be interesting to see LW do future limited collaborations with other artists. That could provide a sustainable and fresh approach to keeping up long term interest in the mission.
I think it would be interesting to see LW do future limited collaborations with other artists. That could provide a sustainable and fresh approach to keeping up long term interest in the mission.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by corbu on Feb 19, 2020 21:40:02 GMT 1, well we'll agree to disagree They have not specified an editon of 1000 have they? They have said 500 and then another 500, so they could say again another 500 etc etc Artist wise, what did he do with the box sets and Sculptures? you ask why on earth would it be more than 1000? You know the answer to that. Let's say they do as everyone thinks and limit it at 1000. what happens then? All the refugee women stop working making these, what do they do? 30 odd women, redundancy? I am viewing this like the walled off, Palestinians make the box sets, sculptures etc, The artist has identified where his collector base can buy his stuff while again helping others less fortunate and has rolled it out to this venture. Time will tell I hope I am right as its the right thing to do. isn't it? I am too... Thousands will be made Love Welcomes describes the mats as "rare", so unlikely that thousands will be made. But who knows!
well we'll agree to disagree They have not specified an editon of 1000 have they? They have said 500 and then another 500, so they could say again another 500 etc etc Artist wise, what did he do with the box sets and Sculptures? you ask why on earth would it be more than 1000? You know the answer to that. Let's say they do as everyone thinks and limit it at 1000. what happens then? All the refugee women stop working making these, what do they do? 30 odd women, redundancy? I am viewing this like the walled off, Palestinians make the box sets, sculptures etc, The artist has identified where his collector base can buy his stuff while again helping others less fortunate and has rolled it out to this venture. Time will tell I hope I am right as its the right thing to do. isn't it? I am too... Thousands will be made Love Welcomes describes the mats as "rare", so unlikely that thousands will be made. But who knows!
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 21:41:14 GMT 1, I was lucky enough to order one of the mats and I live in the United States and I'm not received a shipping notice as of yet. Has anybody seen what the tag for GDP looks like and how the numbering system is? I've seen a few pictures of the mats being delivered on this forum but no one is showing what the tag looks like.... And I'm sad that nobody is getting the free bonus artwork that was teased about. I was really hoping to get my priceless Banksy along with my mat!LOL I don't think anyone in the states has received tracking yet. There are photos of the tag in this thread and on IG. I don't think any bonus artwork was teased about but they certainly did go out of their way to draw attention to the GDP label when they sold round 1, not sure why, it's fine but definitely not worth the tease. That said I had a theory of art/design based on them needing to fulfill certain TM requirements and that wasn't done on these mats either.ย Banksy moves in mysterious ways I guess?ย
I donโt think they teased the label. I think they just said they werenโt revealing it because they didnโt want people to copy it and sell fakes. It was the forum that decided this meant the label was going to be something unusual. There were days of chat about that.
Any rumours that this would be more than was advertised were made up here.
I was lucky enough to order one of the mats and I live in the United States and I'm not received a shipping notice as of yet. Has anybody seen what the tag for GDP looks like and how the numbering system is? I've seen a few pictures of the mats being delivered on this forum but no one is showing what the tag looks like.... And I'm sad that nobody is getting the free bonus artwork that was teased about. I was really hoping to get my priceless Banksy along with my mat!LOL I don't think anyone in the states has received tracking yet. There are photos of the tag in this thread and on IG. I don't think any bonus artwork was teased about but they certainly did go out of their way to draw attention to the GDP label when they sold round 1, not sure why, it's fine but definitely not worth the tease. That said I had a theory of art/design based on them needing to fulfill certain TM requirements and that wasn't done on these mats either.ย Banksy moves in mysterious ways I guess?ย I donโt think they teased the label. I think they just said they werenโt revealing it because they didnโt want people to copy it and sell fakes. It was the forum that decided this meant the label was going to be something unusual. There were days of chat about that. Any rumours that this would be more than was advertised were made up here.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 21:46:03 GMT 1, I think it would be interesting to see LW do future limited collaborations with other artists. That could provide a sustainable and fresh approach to keeping up long term interest in the mission.
love it
I think it would be interesting to see LW do future limited collaborations with other artists. That could provide a sustainable and fresh approach to keeping up long term interest in the mission. love it
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 21:48:26 GMT 1, No offense but the opposite also applies. Where have they ever said they were going to make these indefinitely?! It has been to the contrary, with the original 500 now and 500 later statement. And then the email that said "not everyone will get one but we can at least let you know when they go on sale" and of course the GDP "From an Edition" description. Love welcomes could easily say "we will make these as long as we can, don't buy otherwise" But they actually said, "Next 500" And again, I would like to bring up counterfeit ones. What happens when they keep making them, charge $500, and fakes start showing up for $100? Why would anyone buy the expensive one when there is a much cheaper option? What happens when people start emailing Love Welcomes asking if they have a real one? All these people claiming that they are unlimited yet there is zero indication that is the case.
What we do know for sure is we haven't got a scooby
much more fun this way :-)
No offense but the opposite also applies. Where have they ever said they were going to make these indefinitely?! It has been to the contrary, with the original 500 now and 500 later statement. And then the email that said "not everyone will get one but we can at least let you know when they go on sale" and of course the GDP "From an Edition" description. Love welcomes could easily say "we will make these as long as we can, don't buy otherwise" But they actually said, "Next 500" And again, I would like to bring up counterfeit ones. What happens when they keep making them, charge $500, and fakes start showing up for $100? Why would anyone buy the expensive one when there is a much cheaper option? What happens when people start emailing Love Welcomes asking if they have a real one? All these people claiming that they are unlimited yet there is zero indication that is the case. What we do know for sure is we haven't got a scooby much more fun this way :-)
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 19, 2020 21:51:17 GMT 1, I donโt think they teased the label. I think they just said they werenโt revealing it because they didnโt want people to copy it and sell fakes. It was the forum that decided this meant the label was going to be something unusual. There were days of chat about that. Any rumours that this would be more than was advertised were made up here. Eh, IDK. When you say "features GDP label" as was said on the GDP website it indicates something special-ish. The word feature infers highlighting something notable. From dictionary.com
The label is fine, it's just not something I would consider a 'featured' aspect of this mat.
I donโt think they teased the label. I think they just said they werenโt revealing it because they didnโt want people to copy it and sell fakes. It was the forum that decided this meant the label was going to be something unusual. There were days of chat about that. Any rumours that this would be more than was advertised were made up here. Eh, IDK. When you say "features GDP label" as was said on the GDP website it indicates something special-ish. The word feature infers highlighting something notable. From dictionary.com The label is fine, it's just not something I would consider a 'featured' aspect of this mat.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by irl1 on Feb 19, 2020 21:52:10 GMT 1, Just sitting back watching all the negative comments about these mats and sipping tea... But Iโm the โbanksy haterโ lol
Just sitting back watching all the negative comments about these mats and sipping tea... But Iโm the โbanksy haterโ lol
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 22:03:13 GMT 1, I donโt think they teased the label. I think they just said they werenโt revealing it because they didnโt want people to copy it and sell fakes. It was the forum that decided this meant the label was going to be something unusual. There were days of chat about that. Any rumours that this would be more than was advertised were made up here. Eh, IDK. When you say "features GDP label" as was said on the GDP website it indicates something special-ish. The word feature infers highlighting something notable. From dictionary.com The label is fine, it's just not something I would consider a 'featured' aspect of this mat.ย ย
It really doesnโt though. โFeatures a GDP labelโ just means it has a label. Itโs a pretty common term when describing any product.
I donโt think they teased the label. I think they just said they werenโt revealing it because they didnโt want people to copy it and sell fakes. It was the forum that decided this meant the label was going to be something unusual. There were days of chat about that. Any rumours that this would be more than was advertised were made up here. Eh, IDK. When you say "features GDP label" as was said on the GDP website it indicates something special-ish. The word feature infers highlighting something notable. From dictionary.com The label is fine, it's just not something I would consider a 'featured' aspect of this mat.ย ย It really doesnโt though. โFeatures a GDP labelโ just means it has a label. Itโs a pretty common term when describing any product.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 19, 2020 22:08:47 GMT 1, Eh, IDK. When you say "features GDP label" as was said on the GDP website it indicates something special-ish. The word feature infers highlighting something notable. From dictionary.com The label is fine, it's just not something I would consider a 'featured' aspect of this mat. It really doesnโt though. โFeatures a GDP labelโ just means it has a label. Itโs a pretty common term when describing any product. I don't mean to bicker but the description didn't say features coir mat, or thread, or lifejacket straps. The word features indicates something notable. In this case it would have been more accurate to use the term 'includes' instead. In terms of product marketing the word features indicates something special about the product.
For example, in music marketing the word features would be used to call out big songs/singles, guests artists, or something else that might be notable about the project. It wouldn't just say features 8 songs or whatever.
I think we should probably just agree to disagree though.
Eh, IDK. When you say "features GDP label" as was said on the GDP website it indicates something special-ish. The word feature infers highlighting something notable. From dictionary.com The label is fine, it's just not something I would consider a 'featured' aspect of this mat. It really doesnโt though. โFeatures a GDP labelโ just means it has a label. Itโs a pretty common term when describing any product. I don't mean to bicker but the description didn't say features coir mat, or thread, or lifejacket straps. The word features indicates something notable. In this case it would have been more accurate to use the term 'includes' instead. In terms of product marketing the word features indicates something special about the product. For example, in music marketing the word features would be used to call out big songs/singles, guests artists, or something else that might be notable about the project. It wouldn't just say features 8 songs or whatever. I think we should probably just agree to disagree though.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 22:21:40 GMT 1, It really doesnโt though. โFeatures a GDP labelโ just means it has a label. Itโs a pretty common term when describing any product. I don't mean to bicker but the description didn't say features coir mat, or thread, or lifejacket straps. The word features indicates something notable. In this case it would have been more accurate to use the term 'includes' instead. In terms of product marketing the word features indicates something special about the product.ย For example, in music marketing the word features would be used to call out big songs/singles, guests artists, or something else that might be notable about the project. I think we should probably just agree to disagree though.ย
In car marketing a feature might be air conditioning. In tv marketing a feature might be three HDMI sockets. In matters marketing a feature might be pocket springs.
My point is, there was no suggestion of a label being more than a label. If they hadnโt mentioned the label you can bet people would have been asking if it would have a label to show it was a Banksy design, so it was worthy of mention.
What was never suggested, even if some people thought it was possible, was that the label was some kind of special artwork in itself.
It really doesnโt though. โFeatures a GDP labelโ just means it has a label. Itโs a pretty common term when describing any product. I don't mean to bicker but the description didn't say features coir mat, or thread, or lifejacket straps. The word features indicates something notable. In this case it would have been more accurate to use the term 'includes' instead. In terms of product marketing the word features indicates something special about the product.ย For example, in music marketing the word features would be used to call out big songs/singles, guests artists, or something else that might be notable about the project. I think we should probably just agree to disagree though.ย In car marketing a feature might be air conditioning. In tv marketing a feature might be three HDMI sockets. In matters marketing a feature might be pocket springs. My point is, there was no suggestion of a label being more than a label. If they hadnโt mentioned the label you can bet people would have been asking if it would have a label to show it was a Banksy design, so it was worthy of mention. What was never suggested, even if some people thought it was possible, was that the label was some kind of special artwork in itself.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 19, 2020 22:36:47 GMT 1, I don't mean to bicker but the description didn't say features coir mat, or thread, or lifejacket straps. The word features indicates something notable. In this case it would have been more accurate to use the term 'includes' instead. In terms of product marketing the word features indicates something special about the product. For example, in music marketing the word features would be used to call out big songs/singles, guests artists, or something else that might be notable about the project. I think we should probably just agree to disagree though. In car marketing a feature might be air conditioning. In tv marketing a feature might be three HDMI sockets. In matters marketing a feature might be pocket springs. My point is, there was no suggestion of a label being more than a label. If they hadnโt mentioned the label you can bet people would have been asking if it would have a label to show it was a Banksy design, so it was worthy of mention. What was never suggested, even if some people thought it was possible, was that the label was some kind of special artwork in itself. Yes but the marketer for the car wouldn't say "Features air conditioning" (unless it was the 1940s or 1950s and AC was new) in their advertising nor would the TV manufacturer say "Features 3 HDMI cables". There is a distinct difference in what the word means depending on usage, feature as a noun or features as a verb. And why make a big deal out of revealing the design of the label?
Honestly, it didn't even occur to me that there would be a label on it until it was mentioned by them.
Regardless, again let's agree to disagree please.
I don't mean to bicker but the description didn't say features coir mat, or thread, or lifejacket straps. The word features indicates something notable. In this case it would have been more accurate to use the term 'includes' instead. In terms of product marketing the word features indicates something special about the product. For example, in music marketing the word features would be used to call out big songs/singles, guests artists, or something else that might be notable about the project. I think we should probably just agree to disagree though. In car marketing a feature might be air conditioning. In tv marketing a feature might be three HDMI sockets. In matters marketing a feature might be pocket springs. My point is, there was no suggestion of a label being more than a label. If they hadnโt mentioned the label you can bet people would have been asking if it would have a label to show it was a Banksy design, so it was worthy of mention. What was never suggested, even if some people thought it was possible, was that the label was some kind of special artwork in itself. Yes but the marketer for the car wouldn't say "Features air conditioning" (unless it was the 1940s or 1950s and AC was new) in their advertising nor would the TV manufacturer say "Features 3 HDMI cables". There is a distinct difference in what the word means depending on usage, feature as a noun or features as a verb. And why make a big deal out of revealing the design of the label? Honestly, it didn't even occur to me that there would be a label on it until it was mentioned by them. Regardless, again let's agree to disagree please.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Not 4 The Thril on Feb 19, 2020 22:39:51 GMT 1, Congrats to all the people who bought a Welcome Mat!
Not only did you help a good cause- you got a rad piece of Banksy approved art.
Just enjoy it and quit dissecting everything!
Congrats to all the people who bought a Welcome Mat!
Not only did you help a good cause- you got a rad piece of Banksy approved art.
Just enjoy it and quit dissecting everything!
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Stonetown
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Stonetown on Feb 19, 2020 22:40:40 GMT 1, Pure opinion here: I think the fact that it has a number, that isnt the order number, is all we need to know. If it was not a special numbering system they would have put the order number on it with a paper tag like all the other GDP items we have seen. They didnt. That would have been the easiest, cheapest, fastest, most profitable option for LW. Instead they went the extra mile to create and affix a stitched tag. That to me is telling. At this time... I see this mat as something less than a high volume, numbered print like flag with COA and more than a box set or wall piece that just has a SKU (stock keeping unit). In the event that the mat gets a certificate, which I deem likely, then it should be on par with Flag or better.
I feel that it will get a certificate simply because LW will get bombarded with requests asking if pieces are genuine. They are not set up to handle that. Pest Control is. A certificate takes all of the pressure off LW. Again...pure opinion.
I have a speculation on how this release will look when its all over. 1st 500: Tag with edition number and certificate issued at a later time. This edition will be in line with a limited, unsigned print. 2nd 500 or higher: Tag with edition number. No certificate. Less expensive. Released on Love Welcomes. Wait listers who are donors get a heads up before the store opens. This edition will be in line with a box set.
Pure opinion here: I think the fact that it has a number, that isnt the order number, is all we need to know. If it was not a special numbering system they would have put the order number on it with a paper tag like all the other GDP items we have seen. They didnt. That would have been the easiest, cheapest, fastest, most profitable option for LW. Instead they went the extra mile to create and affix a stitched tag. That to me is telling. At this time... I see this mat as something less than a high volume, numbered print like flag with COA and more than a box set or wall piece that just has a SKU (stock keeping unit). In the event that the mat gets a certificate, which I deem likely, then it should be on par with Flag or better.
I feel that it will get a certificate simply because LW will get bombarded with requests asking if pieces are genuine. They are not set up to handle that. Pest Control is. A certificate takes all of the pressure off LW. Again...pure opinion.
I have a speculation on how this release will look when its all over. 1st 500: Tag with edition number and certificate issued at a later time. This edition will be in line with a limited, unsigned print. 2nd 500 or higher: Tag with edition number. No certificate. Less expensive. Released on Love Welcomes. Wait listers who are donors get a heads up before the store opens. This edition will be in line with a box set.
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Terry Fuckwitt
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 19, 2020 22:48:48 GMT 1, Pure opinion here: I think the fact that it has a number, that isnt the order number, is all we need to know. If it was not a special numbering system they would have put the order number on it with a paper tag like all the other GDP items we have seen. They didnt. That would have been the easiest, cheapest, fastest, most profitable option for LW. Instead they went the extra mile to create and affix a stitched tag. That to me is telling. At this time... I see this mat as something less than a high volume, numbered print like flag with COA and more than a box set or wall piece that just has a SKU (stock keeping unit). In the event that the mat gets a certificate, which I deem likely, then it should be on par with Flag or better. I feel that it will get a certificate simply because LW will get bombarded with requests asking if pieces are genuine. They are not set up to handle that. Pest Control is. A certificate takes all of the pressure off LW. Again...pure opinion. I have a speculation on how this release will look when its all over. 1st 500: Tag with edition number and certificate issued at a later time. This edition will be in line with a limited, unsigned print. 2nd 500 or higher: Tag with edition number. No certificate. Less expensive. Released on Love Welcomes. Wait listers who are donors get a heads up before the store opens. This edition will be in line with a box set.
I get your logic of offering COA to prevent any fakes and hassle for love welcomes, but then you say that you think that the first 500 get a certificate, but the next 500 won't ๐ค
Pure opinion here: I think the fact that it has a number, that isnt the order number, is all we need to know. If it was not a special numbering system they would have put the order number on it with a paper tag like all the other GDP items we have seen. They didnt. That would have been the easiest, cheapest, fastest, most profitable option for LW. Instead they went the extra mile to create and affix a stitched tag. That to me is telling. At this time... I see this mat as something less than a high volume, numbered print like flag with COA and more than a box set or wall piece that just has a SKU (stock keeping unit). In the event that the mat gets a certificate, which I deem likely, then it should be on par with Flag or better. I feel that it will get a certificate simply because LW will get bombarded with requests asking if pieces are genuine. They are not set up to handle that. Pest Control is. A certificate takes all of the pressure off LW. Again...pure opinion. I have a speculation on how this release will look when its all over. 1st 500: Tag with edition number and certificate issued at a later time. This edition will be in line with a limited, unsigned print. 2nd 500 or higher: Tag with edition number. No certificate. Less expensive. Released on Love Welcomes. Wait listers who are donors get a heads up before the store opens. This edition will be in line with a box set. I get your logic of offering COA to prevent any fakes and hassle for love welcomes, but then you say that you think that the first 500 get a certificate, but the next 500 won't ๐ค
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by kuni on Feb 19, 2020 22:54:33 GMT 1, Occam's razor: There will be 2 rounds of 500. Both rounds will be the same price and feature an identical label with the second round starting at 501. There will not be a COA issued, the numbering on the tag is the extent of the registration.
Occam's razor: There will be 2 rounds of 500. Both rounds will be the same price and feature an identical label with the second round starting at 501. There will not be a COA issued, the numbering on the tag is the extent of the registration.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by coller on Feb 19, 2020 22:55:27 GMT 1,
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Stonetown on Feb 19, 2020 23:05:37 GMT 1, Pure opinion here: I think the fact that it has a number, that isnt the order number, is all we need to know. If it was not a special numbering system they would have put the order number on it with a paper tag like all the other GDP items we have seen. They didnt. That would have been the easiest, cheapest, fastest, most profitable option for LW. Instead they went the extra mile to create and affix a stitched tag. That to me is telling. At this time... I see this mat as something less than a high volume, numbered print like flag with COA and more than a box set or wall piece that just has a SKU (stock keeping unit). In the event that the mat gets a certificate, which I deem likely, then it should be on par with Flag or better. I feel that it will get a certificate simply because LW will get bombarded with requests asking if pieces are genuine. They are not set up to handle that. Pest Control is. A certificate takes all of the pressure off LW. Again...pure opinion. I have a speculation on how this release will look when its all over. 1st 500: Tag with edition number and certificate issued at a later time. This edition will be in line with a limited, unsigned print. 2nd 500 or higher: Tag with edition number. No certificate. Less expensive. Released on Love Welcomes. Wait listers who are donors get a heads up before the store opens. This edition will be in line with a box set. I get your logic of offering COA to prevent any fakes and hassle for love welcomes, but then you say that you think that the first 500 get a certificate, but the next 500 won't ๐ค Ya. the real win is in the first 500. The remaining amount might even be unlimited. So in effect you would only need certificates for the 1st 500. Again...pure bullsh*t speculation on my part.
Pure opinion here: I think the fact that it has a number, that isnt the order number, is all we need to know. If it was not a special numbering system they would have put the order number on it with a paper tag like all the other GDP items we have seen. They didnt. That would have been the easiest, cheapest, fastest, most profitable option for LW. Instead they went the extra mile to create and affix a stitched tag. That to me is telling. At this time... I see this mat as something less than a high volume, numbered print like flag with COA and more than a box set or wall piece that just has a SKU (stock keeping unit). In the event that the mat gets a certificate, which I deem likely, then it should be on par with Flag or better. I feel that it will get a certificate simply because LW will get bombarded with requests asking if pieces are genuine. They are not set up to handle that. Pest Control is. A certificate takes all of the pressure off LW. Again...pure opinion. I have a speculation on how this release will look when its all over. 1st 500: Tag with edition number and certificate issued at a later time. This edition will be in line with a limited, unsigned print. 2nd 500 or higher: Tag with edition number. No certificate. Less expensive. Released on Love Welcomes. Wait listers who are donors get a heads up before the store opens. This edition will be in line with a box set. I get your logic of offering COA to prevent any fakes and hassle for love welcomes, but then you say that you think that the first 500 get a certificate, but the next 500 won't ๐ค Ya. the real win is in the first 500. The remaining amount might even be unlimited. So in effect you would only need certificates for the 1st 500. Again...pure bullsh*t speculation on my part.
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Terry Fuckwitt
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 19, 2020 23:10:57 GMT 1, I get your logic of offering COA to prevent any fakes and hassle for love welcomes, but then you say that you think that the first 500 get a certificate, but the next 500 won't ๐ค Ya. the real win is in the first 500. The remaining amount might even be unlimited. So in effect you would only need certificates for the 1st 500. Again...pure bullsh*t speculation on my part.
Not sure that's going to be the case, but I have heard much sillier speculation on this thread.
I get your logic of offering COA to prevent any fakes and hassle for love welcomes, but then you say that you think that the first 500 get a certificate, but the next 500 won't ๐ค Ya. the real win is in the first 500. The remaining amount might even be unlimited. So in effect you would only need certificates for the 1st 500. Again...pure bullsh*t speculation on my part. Not sure that's going to be the case, but I have heard much sillier speculation on this thread.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Stonetown on Feb 19, 2020 23:17:42 GMT 1, Ya. the real win is in the first 500. The remaining amount might even be unlimited. So in effect you would only need certificates for the 1st 500. Again...pure bullsh*t speculation on my part. Not sure that's going to be the case, but I have heard much sillier speculation on this thread. Effectively I am suggesting that anything after the first 500 will be like the box sets. Cheaper and in great numbers. Nobody is hassling the Walled Off hotel about them because well... they dont need to.
Ya. the real win is in the first 500. The remaining amount might even be unlimited. So in effect you would only need certificates for the 1st 500. Again...pure bullsh*t speculation on my part. Not sure that's going to be the case, but I have heard much sillier speculation on this thread. Effectively I am suggesting that anything after the first 500 will be like the box sets. Cheaper and in great numbers. Nobody is hassling the Walled Off hotel about them because well... they dont need to.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by denzil on Feb 19, 2020 23:24:32 GMT 1, you aint getting no certificates for these mats boys
you aint getting no certificates for these mats boys
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Terry Fuckwitt
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 19, 2020 23:30:46 GMT 1, Not sure that's going to be the case, but I have heard much sillier speculation on this thread. Effectively I am suggesting that anything after the first 500 will be like the box sets. Cheaper and in great numbers. Nobody is hassling the Walled Off hotel about them because well... they dont need to.ย
That would be like a big f*ck you to anyone that buys in the second round though, I'm sure Banksy ain't that much of an arse. I will keep my fingers crossed for you๐ค
Not sure that's going to be the case, but I have heard much sillier speculation on this thread. Effectively I am suggesting that anything after the first 500 will be like the box sets. Cheaper and in great numbers. Nobody is hassling the Walled Off hotel about them because well... they dont need to.ย That would be like a big f*ck you to anyone that buys in the second round though, I'm sure Banksy ain't that much of an arse. I will keep my fingers crossed for you๐ค
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