streetartger
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by streetartger on Feb 25, 2020 16:38:20 GMT 1, What is the point of a bun fight if you’ve got 500 people on the waiting list? Why not just message them and tell them to pay up? Because there is no waiting list... just an email newsletter for all interest
What is the point of a bun fight if you’ve got 500 people on the waiting list? Why not just message them and tell them to pay up? Because there is no waiting list... just an email newsletter for all interest
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hops
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by hops on Feb 25, 2020 16:39:33 GMT 1, Hearing release cancelled until further notice Don’t you worry! 500 today and 500 more soon they said, just be patient you’ll get one. 😊
Hearing release cancelled until further notice Don’t you worry! 500 today and 500 more soon they said, just be patient you’ll get one. 😊
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Inknart
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Inknart on Feb 25, 2020 16:42:45 GMT 1, Hearing release cancelled until further notice Don’t you worry! 500 today and 500 more soon they said, just be patient you’ll get one. 😊 That is literally NOT what LW said. Stop throwing it out like everyone will get one, that could definitely not be the case. You're spreading false information.
Yes, they could be unlimited (Great for LW Cause), BUT, "Our plan is that this is not the last run of 500 to go on sale" isn't a definitive statement.
Plans change, if it wasn't a "plan" nothing would have stopped them from just saying "WE WILL be releasing another run so please be patient..."
Hearing release cancelled until further notice Don’t you worry! 500 today and 500 more soon they said, just be patient you’ll get one. 😊 That is literally NOT what LW said. Stop throwing it out like everyone will get one, that could definitely not be the case. You're spreading false information. Yes, they could be unlimited (Great for LW Cause), BUT, "Our plan is that this is not the last run of 500 to go on sale" isn't a definitive statement. Plans change, if it wasn't a "plan" nothing would have stopped them from just saying "WE WILL be releasing another run so please be patient..."
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streetartger
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by streetartger on Feb 25, 2020 16:44:27 GMT 1, Maybe other artists jump on board as well... a Hand stitched Invader doormat would also looks nice. But of course this could also be misused politically...
Maybe other artists jump on board as well... a Hand stitched Invader doormat would also looks nice. But of course this could also be misused politically...
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by The Italian One on Feb 25, 2020 16:46:50 GMT 1, no flippers no party
(charity or not)
no flippers no party
(charity or not)
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pfffffffffft
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 25, 2020 16:48:16 GMT 1, They do not do this routinely. They are not used to this traffic volume. Cut them some slack. This is correct. If they’d stuck with Shopify they’d have been ok, but moving to a system like Woocommerce without proper infrastructure behind it when expecting spikes of traffic is never going to go well. Woo Commerce is terrible but it is a cost savings over Shopify for sure. That said, if this is the last batch of mats she should probably stay at Woo after all the work setting up the new store. If they are really going to launch more mats after this she should probably speak directly to Woo to see if they have a cloudflare option or go back to shopify.
They do not do this routinely. They are not used to this traffic volume. Cut them some slack. This is correct. If they’d stuck with Shopify they’d have been ok, but moving to a system like Woocommerce without proper infrastructure behind it when expecting spikes of traffic is never going to go well. Woo Commerce is terrible but it is a cost savings over Shopify for sure. That said, if this is the last batch of mats she should probably stay at Woo after all the work setting up the new store. If they are really going to launch more mats after this she should probably speak directly to Woo to see if they have a cloudflare option or go back to shopify.
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hops
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by hops on Feb 25, 2020 16:48:44 GMT 1, Don’t you worry! 500 today and 500 more soon they said, just be patient you’ll get one. 😊 That is literally NOT what LW said. Stop throwing it out like everyone will get one, that could definitely not be the case. You're spreading false information. Yes, they could be unlimited (Great for LW Cause), BUT, "Our plan is that this is not the last run of 500 to go on sale" isn't a definitive statement. Plans change, if it wasn't a "plan" nothing would have stopped them from just saying "WE WILL be releasing another run so please be patient..." I actually got an email from Love Welcomes this morning. Word for word it states: ”Our plan is that this is not the last 500 for sale”
What does that mean to you?
Don’t you worry! 500 today and 500 more soon they said, just be patient you’ll get one. 😊 That is literally NOT what LW said. Stop throwing it out like everyone will get one, that could definitely not be the case. You're spreading false information. Yes, they could be unlimited (Great for LW Cause), BUT, "Our plan is that this is not the last run of 500 to go on sale" isn't a definitive statement. Plans change, if it wasn't a "plan" nothing would have stopped them from just saying "WE WILL be releasing another run so please be patient..." I actually got an email from Love Welcomes this morning. Word for word it states: ”Our plan is that this is not the last 500 for sale” What does that mean to you?
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Inknart
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Inknart on Feb 25, 2020 16:50:33 GMT 1, That is literally NOT what LW said. Stop throwing it out like everyone will get one, that could definitely not be the case. You're spreading false information. Yes, they could be unlimited (Great for LW Cause), BUT, "Our plan is that this is not the last run of 500 to go on sale" isn't a definitive statement. Plans change, if it wasn't a "plan" nothing would have stopped them from just saying "WE WILL be releasing another run so please be patient..." You and a number of others on here are so keen for these to remain limited in some way it’s really quite upsetting. You are welcome to disagree with what I’ve said of course, but your post history since minutes after this was first released is really quite clear. No, not at all. I could care less if it's unlimited vs limited. I just think diverting people away and giving them false hope that they can sit back and skip this one because the next ones are Guaranteed is wrong information.
I'm not spreading false information because I don't have the information, nobody does. So anyone commenting like they actually know the facts really has no idea. Just like me.
That is literally NOT what LW said. Stop throwing it out like everyone will get one, that could definitely not be the case. You're spreading false information. Yes, they could be unlimited (Great for LW Cause), BUT, "Our plan is that this is not the last run of 500 to go on sale" isn't a definitive statement. Plans change, if it wasn't a "plan" nothing would have stopped them from just saying "WE WILL be releasing another run so please be patient..." You and a number of others on here are so keen for these to remain limited in some way it’s really quite upsetting. You are welcome to disagree with what I’ve said of course, but your post history since minutes after this was first released is really quite clear. No, not at all. I could care less if it's unlimited vs limited. I just think diverting people away and giving them false hope that they can sit back and skip this one because the next ones are Guaranteed is wrong information. I'm not spreading false information because I don't have the information, nobody does. So anyone commenting like they actually know the facts really has no idea. Just like me.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 16:51:29 GMT 1, I was planning on taking my dog for a walk last night but we didn't go.
I was planning on taking my dog for a walk last night but we didn't go.
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Argiebaji
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Argiebaji on Feb 25, 2020 16:52:05 GMT 1, Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes
Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by yaaasqueen on Feb 25, 2020 16:52:32 GMT 1, Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes
Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 16:52:41 GMT 1, Why is there a bunfight this time when the first release sat freely available for an hour or more?
Why is there a bunfight this time when the first release sat freely available for an hour or more?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by jellya on Feb 25, 2020 16:54:47 GMT 1, Fair enough
Fair enough
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by longshanks on Feb 25, 2020 16:55:19 GMT 1, Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes
Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Pawel on Feb 25, 2020 16:56:00 GMT 1, Why is there a bunfight this time when the first release sat freely available for an hour or more? Cause people didn't know whether they can participate in the lottery for other pieces on sale. Plus the initial idea was they weren't limited
Why is there a bunfight this time when the first release sat freely available for an hour or more? Cause people didn't know whether they can participate in the lottery for other pieces on sale. Plus the initial idea was they weren't limited
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by ca on Feb 25, 2020 16:57:27 GMT 1, Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes it's a ruse, keep refreshing!
Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes it's a ruse, keep refreshing!
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by FЯ on Feb 25, 2020 16:58:02 GMT 1, Hearing release cancelled until further notice told you
Hearing release cancelled until further notice told you
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kuni
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by kuni on Feb 25, 2020 16:59:40 GMT 1, So if everyone were to know that these mats are truly unlimited and that anyone who wants one will eventually get one, are you still going to line up to spend $700 on one? Genuinely curious if this changes your calculus.
So if everyone were to know that these mats are truly unlimited and that anyone who wants one will eventually get one, are you still going to line up to spend $700 on one? Genuinely curious if this changes your calculus.
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Art Fan 2011
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 25, 2020 17:00:15 GMT 1, "Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process"
Caused by them not dropping them at 12 when they sent the email out! Did they not forsee that interest may be quite high on these - they could of saved us all F5`ing for 4 hours and just done the random selection from the start!
At least it was now worth signing upto the "waiting list" now it really is a waiting game
Given the huge interest, id expect many many thousands of these to be churned out now to raise loadsa money for the charity!
"Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process"
Caused by them not dropping them at 12 when they sent the email out! Did they not forsee that interest may be quite high on these - they could of saved us all F5`ing for 4 hours and just done the random selection from the start!
At least it was now worth signing upto the "waiting list" now it really is a waiting game
Given the huge interest, id expect many many thousands of these to be churned out now to raise loadsa money for the charity!
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by yaaasqueen on Feb 25, 2020 17:00:49 GMT 1, So if everyone were to know that these mats are truly unlimited and that anyone who wants one will eventually get one, are you still going to line up to spend $700 on one? Genuinely curious if this changes your calculus. nope, will still be buying one if I can get one
So if everyone were to know that these mats are truly unlimited and that anyone who wants one will eventually get one, are you still going to line up to spend $700 on one? Genuinely curious if this changes your calculus. nope, will still be buying one if I can get one
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Unica on Feb 25, 2020 17:00:50 GMT 1, Hearing release cancelled until further notice In the know.
Hearing release cancelled until further notice In the know.
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Art Fan 2011
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 25, 2020 17:03:01 GMT 1, So if everyone were to know that these mats are truly unlimited and that anyone who wants one will eventually get one, are you still going to line up to spend $700 on one? Genuinely curious if this changes your calculus. They are $700 whether they make 1000, or 10000. I guess the question is people`s motives for buying. If its to re-sell then the prices will naturally weaken as market gets flooded with them (like the little wall`s). If your buying because you really need a new door mat then I mam sure plenty will still be keen on getting one
So if everyone were to know that these mats are truly unlimited and that anyone who wants one will eventually get one, are you still going to line up to spend $700 on one? Genuinely curious if this changes your calculus. They are $700 whether they make 1000, or 10000. I guess the question is people`s motives for buying. If its to re-sell then the prices will naturally weaken as market gets flooded with them (like the little wall`s). If your buying because you really need a new door mat then I mam sure plenty will still be keen on getting one
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Pawel on Feb 25, 2020 17:03:40 GMT 1, So if everyone were to know that these mats are truly unlimited and that anyone who wants one will eventually get one, are you still going to line up to spend $700 on one? Genuinely curious if this changes your calculus. In that case I would get 2.
So if everyone were to know that these mats are truly unlimited and that anyone who wants one will eventually get one, are you still going to line up to spend $700 on one? Genuinely curious if this changes your calculus. In that case I would get 2.
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kuni
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by kuni on Feb 25, 2020 17:08:30 GMT 1, So if everyone were to know that these mats are truly unlimited and that anyone who wants one will eventually get one, are you still going to line up to spend $700 on one? Genuinely curious if this changes your calculus. They are $700 whether they make 1000, or 10000. I guess the question is people`s motives for buying. If its to re-sell then the prices will naturally weaken as market gets flooded with them (like the little wall`s). If your buying because you really need a new door mat then I mam sure plenty will still be keen on getting one Yes, totally goes to people's motives for buying. When I bought mine round one it was half for the cause and half for the fact that I've wanted something officially Banksy. I did assume at that point that they were going to be unlimited, so monetary gain wasn't part of the equation for me.
I just wonder what would happen to sales if LW issued a statement saying, "we will produce as many mats as there is demand."
So if everyone were to know that these mats are truly unlimited and that anyone who wants one will eventually get one, are you still going to line up to spend $700 on one? Genuinely curious if this changes your calculus. They are $700 whether they make 1000, or 10000. I guess the question is people`s motives for buying. If its to re-sell then the prices will naturally weaken as market gets flooded with them (like the little wall`s). If your buying because you really need a new door mat then I mam sure plenty will still be keen on getting one Yes, totally goes to people's motives for buying. When I bought mine round one it was half for the cause and half for the fact that I've wanted something officially Banksy. I did assume at that point that they were going to be unlimited, so monetary gain wasn't part of the equation for me. I just wonder what would happen to sales if LW issued a statement saying, "we will produce as many mats as there is demand."
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 25, 2020 17:09:37 GMT 1, Here’s an idea. Just sell unlimited quantity until people stop buying. Add the disclaimer that the order will be filled in order of received and it may take a long long time before it’s delivered.
It worked for banksy why not just follow the same suit.
If you sell 10,000 then great. Number 10,000 in line may be waiting a few years but that’s what they signed up for...
Here’s an idea. Just sell unlimited quantity until people stop buying. Add the disclaimer that the order will be filled in order of received and it may take a long long time before it’s delivered.
It worked for banksy why not just follow the same suit.
If you sell 10,000 then great. Number 10,000 in line may be waiting a few years but that’s what they signed up for...
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Gentle Mental on Feb 25, 2020 17:09:46 GMT 1, While you wait... donate!
Heard that could boost your Chances!!
Joking.
Maybe.
I have no clue. Just a guess.
But it will be good for your karma. Either way.
While you wait... donate!
Heard that could boost your Chances!!
Joking.
Maybe.
I have no clue. Just a guess.
But it will be good for your karma. Either way.
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Dive Jedi
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Dive Jedi on Feb 25, 2020 17:10:04 GMT 1, Why is there a bunfight this time when the first release sat freely available for an hour or more? Because many didn't want to "waste" their one shot on the GDP lottery.
Much was unclear at the time. And still is.
Why is there a bunfight this time when the first release sat freely available for an hour or more? Because many didn't want to "waste" their one shot on the GDP lottery. Much was unclear at the time. And still is.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Gentle Mental on Feb 25, 2020 17:10:05 GMT 1, While you wait... donate!
Heard that would boost your Chances!!
Joking.
Maybe.
I have no clue. Just a guess.
But it will be good for your karma. Either way.
While you wait... donate!
Heard that would boost your Chances!!
Joking.
Maybe.
I have no clue. Just a guess.
But it will be good for your karma. Either way.
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Inknart
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Inknart on Feb 25, 2020 17:11:35 GMT 1, They are $700 whether they make 1000, or 10000. I guess the question is people`s motives for buying. If its to re-sell then the prices will naturally weaken as market gets flooded with them (like the little wall`s). If your buying because you really need a new door mat then I mam sure plenty will still be keen on getting one Yes, totally goes to people's motives for buying. When I bought mine round one it was half for the cause and half for the fact that I've wanted something officially Banksy. I did assume at that point that they were going to be unlimited, so monetary gain wasn't part of the equation for me. I just wonder what would happen to sales if LW issued a statement saying, "we will produce as many mats as there is demand." That would hurt them, as interest would not only die, but the ones for sale on secondary would eventually be less than cost. They would have to lower the price as releases went on, which is also fine.
These, unlike the box sets which are only avail from Walled Off Hotel are accessible worldwide without leaving your home.
They are $700 whether they make 1000, or 10000. I guess the question is people`s motives for buying. If its to re-sell then the prices will naturally weaken as market gets flooded with them (like the little wall`s). If your buying because you really need a new door mat then I mam sure plenty will still be keen on getting one Yes, totally goes to people's motives for buying. When I bought mine round one it was half for the cause and half for the fact that I've wanted something officially Banksy. I did assume at that point that they were going to be unlimited, so monetary gain wasn't part of the equation for me. I just wonder what would happen to sales if LW issued a statement saying, "we will produce as many mats as there is demand." That would hurt them, as interest would not only die, but the ones for sale on secondary would eventually be less than cost. They would have to lower the price as releases went on, which is also fine. These, unlike the box sets which are only avail from Walled Off Hotel are accessible worldwide without leaving your home.
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Inknart
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Inknart on Feb 25, 2020 17:13:48 GMT 1, Here’s an idea. Just sell unlimited quantity until people stop buying. Add the disclaimer that the order will be filled in order of received and it may take a long long time before it’s delivered. It worked for banksy why not just follow the same suit. If you sell 10,000 then great. Number 10,000 in line may be waiting a few years but that’s what they signed up for... I think that would have been a great strategy. I think they would have gotten more upfront orders than possibly doing 500 increments over a long period of time. Everybody wins.
Here’s an idea. Just sell unlimited quantity until people stop buying. Add the disclaimer that the order will be filled in order of received and it may take a long long time before it’s delivered. It worked for banksy why not just follow the same suit. If you sell 10,000 then great. Number 10,000 in line may be waiting a few years but that’s what they signed up for... I think that would have been a great strategy. I think they would have gotten more upfront orders than possibly doing 500 increments over a long period of time. Everybody wins.
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