froncz
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by froncz on Feb 25, 2020 17:15:17 GMT 1, This is all in all a very interesting release. Technical problems with this batch were to be expected (they are obviously not used to that level of interest) and i think given LW's profile and purpose everyone should cut them some slack. Could they have handled everything a bit better? Sure. But at the end of the day they are literally fucking helping refugees to not die, so i think that everyone should hold their horses with complaining.
That being said, I think that believing that these will be unlimited (in a sense that they will be churning them out for years to come) is naive. Both the supply (as we can see - it takes approx. 4 months to produce 500 for them) and demand (the market will saturate in the end) are limited. We can't know what kind of arrangement they have with team Banksy (to use the GDP tag and whatnot), etc.
The market can probably handle a few more batches of 500 but how many? Who knows. In any case, fingers crossed that LW makes as much dough out of the collective Banksy FOMO as possible.
This is all in all a very interesting release. Technical problems with this batch were to be expected (they are obviously not used to that level of interest) and i think given LW's profile and purpose everyone should cut them some slack. Could they have handled everything a bit better? Sure. But at the end of the day they are literally fucking helping refugees to not die, so i think that everyone should hold their horses with complaining.
That being said, I think that believing that these will be unlimited (in a sense that they will be churning them out for years to come) is naive. Both the supply (as we can see - it takes approx. 4 months to produce 500 for them) and demand (the market will saturate in the end) are limited. We can't know what kind of arrangement they have with team Banksy (to use the GDP tag and whatnot), etc.
The market can probably handle a few more batches of 500 but how many? Who knows. In any case, fingers crossed that LW makes as much dough out of the collective Banksy FOMO as possible.
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reg
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by reg on Feb 25, 2020 17:19:26 GMT 1, Here’s an idea. Just sell unlimited quantity until people stop buying. Add the disclaimer that the order will be filled in order of received and it may take a long long time before it’s delivered. It worked for banksy why not just follow the same suit. If you sell 10,000 then great. Number 10,000 in line may be waiting a few years but that’s what they signed up for... I think that would have been a great strategy. I think they would have gotten more upfront orders than possibly doing 500 increments over a long period of time. Everybody wins. One would very much hope there is not an endless amount of used life jackets or women in camps to stitch the mats. Makes sense to do batches of 500 and the fairest way is to choose people at random from their list, given the size of operations at LW (which is a company, incidentally, not strictly a charity).
Here’s an idea. Just sell unlimited quantity until people stop buying. Add the disclaimer that the order will be filled in order of received and it may take a long long time before it’s delivered. It worked for banksy why not just follow the same suit. If you sell 10,000 then great. Number 10,000 in line may be waiting a few years but that’s what they signed up for... I think that would have been a great strategy. I think they would have gotten more upfront orders than possibly doing 500 increments over a long period of time. Everybody wins. One would very much hope there is not an endless amount of used life jackets or women in camps to stitch the mats. Makes sense to do batches of 500 and the fairest way is to choose people at random from their list, given the size of operations at LW (which is a company, incidentally, not strictly a charity).
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jellya
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by jellya on Feb 25, 2020 17:19:56 GMT 1, Why is there a bunfight this time when the first release sat freely available for an hour or more? Because many didn't want to "waste" their one shot on the GDP lottery. Much was unclear at the time. And still is.
All very true.
Why is there a bunfight this time when the first release sat freely available for an hour or more? Because many didn't want to "waste" their one shot on the GDP lottery. Much was unclear at the time. And still is. All very true.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 25, 2020 17:21:35 GMT 1, I think that would have been a great strategy. I think they would have gotten more upfront orders than possibly doing 500 increments over a long period of time. Everybody wins. One would very much hope there is not an endless amount of used life jackets or women in camps to stitch the mats. Makes sense to do batches of 500 and the fairest way is to choose people at random from their list, given the size of operations at LW (which is a company, incidentally, not strictly a charity).
Fair points. But there also isn’t a endless amount of people that would continue to buy.
Maybe add to the disclaimer that they have the right to substitute to another type of handmade banksy inspired item.
I think that would have been a great strategy. I think they would have gotten more upfront orders than possibly doing 500 increments over a long period of time. Everybody wins. One would very much hope there is not an endless amount of used life jackets or women in camps to stitch the mats. Makes sense to do batches of 500 and the fairest way is to choose people at random from their list, given the size of operations at LW (which is a company, incidentally, not strictly a charity). Fair points. But there also isn’t a endless amount of people that would continue to buy. Maybe add to the disclaimer that they have the right to substitute to another type of handmade banksy inspired item.
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MD6744
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by MD6744 on Feb 25, 2020 17:24:08 GMT 1, Hopefully they'll do a 1000 in a different colour
Hopefully they'll do a 1000 in a different colour
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 17:26:32 GMT 1, Why is there a bunfight this time when the first release sat freely available for an hour or more? Because many didn't want to "waste" their one shot on the GDP lottery. Much was unclear at the time. And still is. Did not realise it was widely thought that buying a mat would disqualify you from GDP lottery. Happy to confirm it did not. *incredibly smug face*
Why is there a bunfight this time when the first release sat freely available for an hour or more? Because many didn't want to "waste" their one shot on the GDP lottery. Much was unclear at the time. And still is. Did not realise it was widely thought that buying a mat would disqualify you from GDP lottery. Happy to confirm it did not. *incredibly smug face*
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withnail69
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by withnail69 on Feb 25, 2020 17:38:34 GMT 1, Because many didn't want to "waste" their one shot on the GDP lottery. Much was unclear at the time. And still is. Did not realise it was widely thought that buying a mat would disqualify you from GDP lottery. Happy to confirm it did not. *incredibly smug face* at bloody last someone confirms what was bleedin obvious all along
Because many didn't want to "waste" their one shot on the GDP lottery. Much was unclear at the time. And still is. Did not realise it was widely thought that buying a mat would disqualify you from GDP lottery. Happy to confirm it did not. *incredibly smug face* at bloody last someone confirms what was bleedin obvious all along
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Gentle Mental on Feb 25, 2020 17:44:59 GMT 1, Are the next 500 numbered?
Are the next 500 numbered?
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pfffffffffft
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 25, 2020 17:45:52 GMT 1, Why is she insisting that bots crashed her website? There are no Woo Commerce bots. Only good old fashion F5ing and site monitors.
Why is she insisting that bots crashed her website? There are no Woo Commerce bots. Only good old fashion F5ing and site monitors.
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mint
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by mint on Feb 25, 2020 17:50:27 GMT 1, S H I T S H O W
S H I T S H O W
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Graham H
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Graham H on Feb 25, 2020 17:51:52 GMT 1, Fear not... its not long until the Kaws release.. and we can all have another go!!
Fear not... its not long until the Kaws release.. and we can all have another go!!
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qest
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by qest on Feb 25, 2020 17:52:30 GMT 1, Bad time to share that I got my shipping notification yesterday?
Bad time to share that I got my shipping notification yesterday?
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Pawel
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Pawel on Feb 25, 2020 17:55:38 GMT 1, Bad time to share that I got my shipping notification yesterday? I wouldn't say so. There's a good chance that everyone who wants one will be able to get one eventually so all good.
Bad time to share that I got my shipping notification yesterday? I wouldn't say so. There's a good chance that everyone who wants one will be able to get one eventually so all good.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Gentle Mental on Feb 25, 2020 17:56:11 GMT 1, Why didn’t they mention Individually numbered In the new descriptor?
Plot congeals....
Why didn’t they mention Individually numbered In the new descriptor?
Plot congeals....
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kuni
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by kuni on Feb 25, 2020 17:56:47 GMT 1, Are the next 500 numbered? No, but the next 500 do come with a free signed print.
Are the next 500 numbered? No, but the next 500 do come with a free signed print.
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pfffffffffft
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 25, 2020 17:58:27 GMT 1, Why is she insisting that bots crashed her website? There are no Woo Commerce bots. Only good old fashion F5ing and site monitors. There are plenty of Woocommerce bots. It’s trivial to create one. However I don’t think they’re the cause in this situation. Just inadequate infrastructure for the Woocommerce / Wordpress install to cope with the load. Huh, I wasn't aware that there were! As far as I knew they are not commercially available :-).
Yep for sure on the second one! Woo is just janky AF.
Why is she insisting that bots crashed her website? There are no Woo Commerce bots. Only good old fashion F5ing and site monitors. There are plenty of Woocommerce bots. It’s trivial to create one. However I don’t think they’re the cause in this situation. Just inadequate infrastructure for the Woocommerce / Wordpress install to cope with the load. Huh, I wasn't aware that there were! As far as I knew they are not commercially available :-). Yep for sure on the second one! Woo is just janky AF.
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qest
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by qest on Feb 25, 2020 17:59:46 GMT 1, Bad time to share that I got my shipping notification yesterday? I wouldn't say so. There's a good chance that everyone who wants one will be able to get one eventually so all good. This is my genuine hope.
Bad time to share that I got my shipping notification yesterday? I wouldn't say so. There's a good chance that everyone who wants one will be able to get one eventually so all good. This is my genuine hope.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 18:02:01 GMT 1, Are the next 500 numbered? No, but the next 500 do come with a free signed print. I hope it's different to the one we got with the first batch of mats. Really cool surprise.
Are the next 500 numbered? No, but the next 500 do come with a free signed print. I hope it's different to the one we got with the first batch of mats. Really cool surprise.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 18:03:33 GMT 1, I wish they had add this to there site.
This is not a proper shop - it is an actual shop, it sells stuff and offers refunds and complies with data protection - but all the products are made in an art studio, not a factory. Everything is produced by a handful of people using recycled material wherever possible in a workplace culture of daytime drinking. So there isn't loads of it and it's not all ready to ship straight away. You are advised that GDP may prove to be a disappointing retail experience - especially if you're successful in making a purchase.
I wish they had add this to there site.
This is not a proper shop - it is an actual shop, it sells stuff and offers refunds and complies with data protection - but all the products are made in an art studio, not a factory. Everything is produced by a handful of people using recycled material wherever possible in a workplace culture of daytime drinking. So there isn't loads of it and it's not all ready to ship straight away. You are advised that GDP may prove to be a disappointing retail experience - especially if you're successful in making a purchase.
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GMA
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by GMA on Feb 25, 2020 19:50:52 GMT 1, Lets see that email again, just incase anyone missed it the first 5 times 😝
Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes
Lets see that email again, just incase anyone missed it the first 5 times 😝
Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes
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jimmyjam
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by jimmyjam on Feb 25, 2020 20:01:22 GMT 1, These are cool but I have a feeling this will end up like the Banksy walls or boxset. At first crazy auction prices and then back to reality / almost cost - a lot will be made.
These are cool but I have a feeling this will end up like the Banksy walls or boxset. At first crazy auction prices and then back to reality / almost cost - a lot will be made.
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irl1
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by irl1 on Feb 25, 2020 20:03:29 GMT 1, Lets see that email again, just incase anyone missed it the first 5 times 😝 Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes Just checked my emails for today, the best news i heard for years. I'm just starting a weeks golfing holiday in Portugal boy will i have a good time now.
Happy to see the Charity will sell thousands of these over the next few years
Well done to Banksy and Co sure in time we'll be using these Banksy works as door mats!
Lets see that email again, just incase anyone missed it the first 5 times 😝 Dear friends, Due to unprecedented interest in the Banksy Welcome Mat, we have had issues with our server and as a consequence our sales process. In light of this, the fairest path forward is to randomly select 500 people from our waiting list to purchase the current batch of 500 Banksy Welcome Mats. If you are selected, you will be notified by email before the end of the week. Please rest assured we will be doing this using a fair random process to select people. If you are not selected, you will remain on the waiting list for the next batch. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience, especially everyone who has been trying to access our site today. With best wishes, Abi Hewitt, Co-Founder, Love Welcomes Just checked my emails for today, the best news i heard for years. I'm just starting a weeks golfing holiday in Portugal boy will i have a good time now. Happy to see the Charity will sell thousands of these over the next few years Well done to Banksy and Co sure in time we'll be using these Banksy works as door mats!
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Masong
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Masong on Feb 25, 2020 20:10:40 GMT 1, Instead of randomly selecting 500 people, why not just offer them to the first 500 on the waiting list. Surely this would be the fairest way.
Instead of randomly selecting 500 people, why not just offer them to the first 500 on the waiting list. Surely this would be the fairest way.
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Inknart
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Inknart on Feb 25, 2020 20:11:53 GMT 1, Instead of randomly selecting 500 people, why not just offer them to the first 500 on the waiting list. Surely this would be the fairest way. Random selection equals more email subscriptions...
Instead of randomly selecting 500 people, why not just offer them to the first 500 on the waiting list. Surely this would be the fairest way. Random selection equals more email subscriptions...
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hops
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by hops on Feb 25, 2020 20:14:54 GMT 1, These are cool but I have a feeling this will end up like the Banksy walls or boxset. At first crazy auction prices and then back to reality / almost cost - a lot will be made. Does anyone remember the first Walled Off Hotel box set listed on eBay? Sold for either 9k or 10k if I recall. A week later they were $1750. Few weeks after under 1k. Is that about right? How much do they sell for now?
These are cool but I have a feeling this will end up like the Banksy walls or boxset. At first crazy auction prices and then back to reality / almost cost - a lot will be made. Does anyone remember the first Walled Off Hotel box set listed on eBay? Sold for either 9k or 10k if I recall. A week later they were $1750. Few weeks after under 1k. Is that about right? How much do they sell for now?
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irl1
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by irl1 on Feb 25, 2020 20:27:04 GMT 1, These are cool but I have a feeling this will end up like the Banksy walls or boxset. At first crazy auction prices and then back to reality / almost cost - a lot will be made. Does anyone remember the first Walled Off Hotel box set listed on eBay? Sold for either 9k or 10k if I recall. A week later they were $1750. Few weeks after under 1k. Is that about right? How much do they sell for now? A wall section sold in Heritage auctions for $13,000 + fees $16,250.
Then the same one sold again by the buyer a few months ago for $1,850
These are cool but I have a feeling this will end up like the Banksy walls or boxset. At first crazy auction prices and then back to reality / almost cost - a lot will be made. Does anyone remember the first Walled Off Hotel box set listed on eBay? Sold for either 9k or 10k if I recall. A week later they were $1750. Few weeks after under 1k. Is that about right? How much do they sell for now? A wall section sold in Heritage auctions for $13,000 + fees $16,250. Then the same one sold again by the buyer a few months ago for $1,850
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pfffffffffft
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by pfffffffffft on Feb 25, 2020 20:27:32 GMT 1, Instead of randomly selecting 500 people, why not just offer them to the first 500 on the waiting list. Surely this would be the fairest way. I agree with this.
Instead of randomly selecting 500 people, why not just offer them to the first 500 on the waiting list. Surely this would be the fairest way. I agree with this.
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irl1
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by irl1 on Feb 25, 2020 20:29:41 GMT 1, Instead of randomly selecting 500 people, why not just offer them to the first 500 on the waiting list. Surely this would be the fairest way. Random selection equals more email subscriptions... Yes but not the fairest way to do it. masong is right first come first served
Anyway we will all get one if we want one.
Instead of randomly selecting 500 people, why not just offer them to the first 500 on the waiting list. Surely this would be the fairest way. Random selection equals more email subscriptions... Yes but not the fairest way to do it. masong is right first come first served Anyway we will all get one if we want one.
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touchdowntodd
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by touchdowntodd on Feb 25, 2020 20:33:11 GMT 1, Random selection equals more email subscriptions... Yes but not the fairest way to do it. masong is right first come first served Anyway we will all get one if we want one.
Wouldn't be on it. I'm sure the email list is 100k strong by now lol
But can't go by who was first on it, I've been on the list since pre gdp because of buying other products, and I've already got a mat coming .. not fair for me to get a 2nd Chance
Lottery seems fair, bots would eat up that site before a human could check out anyways
Random selection equals more email subscriptions... Yes but not the fairest way to do it. masong is right first come first served Anyway we will all get one if we want one. Wouldn't be on it. I'm sure the email list is 100k strong by now lol But can't go by who was first on it, I've been on the list since pre gdp because of buying other products, and I've already got a mat coming .. not fair for me to get a 2nd Chance Lottery seems fair, bots would eat up that site before a human could check out anyways
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 25, 2020 20:42:46 GMT 1, Does anyone remember the first Walled Off Hotel box set listed on eBay? Sold for either 9k or 10k if I recall. A week later they were $1750. Few weeks after under 1k. Is that about right? How much do they sell for now? A wall section sold in Heritage auctions for $13,000 + fees $16,250. Then the same one sold again by the buyer a few months ago for $1,850
That is hilarious, bought as a short term investment😂
Does anyone remember the first Walled Off Hotel box set listed on eBay? Sold for either 9k or 10k if I recall. A week later they were $1750. Few weeks after under 1k. Is that about right? How much do they sell for now? A wall section sold in Heritage auctions for $13,000 + fees $16,250. Then the same one sold again by the buyer a few months ago for $1,850 That is hilarious, bought as a short term investment😂
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