19818914
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by 19818914 on Feb 28, 2020 2:18:20 GMT 1, 🤣 Why, was there thread left in the back? Anybody got a Malcolm mat yet? The 'Wel' is well spaced, then the 'c' is crammed in before the 'o', followed by a big gap before the 'me'. Will dig out a photo later.
That’s dope.
🤣 Why, was there thread left in the back? Anybody got a Malcolm mat yet? The 'Wel' is well spaced, then the 'c' is crammed in before the 'o', followed by a big gap before the 'me'. Will dig out a photo later. That’s dope.
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nobokov
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by nobokov on Feb 28, 2020 3:42:16 GMT 1, Looks really good there on the floor as opposed to the ones that have been framed or stuck on the wall so far.
I dare anyone to strap two mats onto your chest and walk into a public space.
Looks really good there on the floor as opposed to the ones that have been framed or stuck on the wall so far.
I dare anyone to strap two mats onto your chest and walk into a public space.
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Alban Google
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Alban Google on Feb 28, 2020 7:35:19 GMT 1, Same here
Same here
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Winks
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Winks on Feb 28, 2020 7:56:50 GMT 1, Or alternatively wait and buy direct from Love Welcomes, give money to a charity and don’t put money in to flippers hands.
Win win
Or alternatively wait and buy direct from Love Welcomes, give money to a charity and don’t put money in to flippers hands.
Win win
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 8:05:27 GMT 1, It's nice that the release got a much more positive reaction on here this time. Lots of people excited about buying instead of loads of moaning. If/when they release more, I hope they continue doing it by lottery.
It's nice that the release got a much more positive reaction on here this time. Lots of people excited about buying instead of loads of moaning. If/when they release more, I hope they continue doing it by lottery.
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iamzero
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by iamzero on Feb 28, 2020 8:26:20 GMT 1, Mine arrive with a small dink on the edge and the signature was smudged...disgraceful.
I think the coir is way too p*ickly for my delicate fingers, it would be fine if this were used for wiping dirt from muddy shoes like a door mat but this clearly isn’t a door mat as stated in the description so it’s highly inappropriate. Also I think the orange stitching used is a little too in your face for my tastes. I feel they could’ve toned down the lettering colour a little bit so it blended a bit better.
Mine arrive with a small dink on the edge and the signature was smudged...disgraceful.
I think the coir is way too p*ickly for my delicate fingers, it would be fine if this were used for wiping dirt from muddy shoes like a door mat but this clearly isn’t a door mat as stated in the description so it’s highly inappropriate. Also I think the orange stitching used is a little too in your face for my tastes. I feel they could’ve toned down the lettering colour a little bit so it blended a bit better.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by The Italian One on Feb 28, 2020 9:41:23 GMT 1, more than 30 on ebay....
more than 30 on ebay....
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Daylight Robber on Feb 28, 2020 9:57:14 GMT 1, Mine arrive with a small dink on the edge and the signature was smudged...disgraceful. I think the coir is way too p*ickly for my delicate fingers, it would be fine if this were used for wiping dirt from muddy shoes like a door mat but this clearly isn’t a door mat as stated in the description so it’s highly inappropriate. Also I think the orange stitching used is a little too in your face for my tastes. I feel they could’ve toned down the lettering colour a little bit so it blended a bit better.
I should probably have said - I'm not complaining about mine. I love it the way it is and wouldn't have it any other way. I find all the 'imperfections' extremely powerful.
Mine arrive with a small dink on the edge and the signature was smudged...disgraceful. I think the coir is way too p*ickly for my delicate fingers, it would be fine if this were used for wiping dirt from muddy shoes like a door mat but this clearly isn’t a door mat as stated in the description so it’s highly inappropriate. Also I think the orange stitching used is a little too in your face for my tastes. I feel they could’ve toned down the lettering colour a little bit so it blended a bit better. I should probably have said - I'm not complaining about mine. I love it the way it is and wouldn't have it any other way. I find all the 'imperfections' extremely powerful.
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Yabadabdo
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Yabadabdo on Feb 28, 2020 10:36:40 GMT 1, 🤣 Why, was there thread left in the back? Anybody got a Malcolm mat yet? The 'Wel' is well spaced, then the 'c' is crammed in before the 'o', followed by a big gap before the 'me'. Will dig out a photo later. Knowing my luck, mine will probably say "well cum". If I have to keep cleaning it up every time we have visitors, I'm sending it back...
🤣 Why, was there thread left in the back? Anybody got a Malcolm mat yet? The 'Wel' is well spaced, then the 'c' is crammed in before the 'o', followed by a big gap before the 'me'. Will dig out a photo later. Knowing my luck, mine will probably say "well cum". If I have to keep cleaning it up every time we have visitors, I'm sending it back...
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jensen
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by jensen on Feb 28, 2020 10:53:34 GMT 1, tbt
tbt
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purpleandred
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by purpleandred on Feb 28, 2020 11:43:29 GMT 1, Honestly, think about it: these mats WILL be virtually unlimited. refuges will be fleeing to Europe for the next decade at least. This means more than enough life jackets, more than enough workforce to churn these mats out.
These Mats will be around as long as people express interest and they keep selling.
No time limit on these.
Honestly, think about it: these mats WILL be virtually unlimited. refuges will be fleeing to Europe for the next decade at least. This means more than enough life jackets, more than enough workforce to churn these mats out.
These Mats will be around as long as people express interest and they keep selling.
No time limit on these.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Coach on Feb 28, 2020 12:13:39 GMT 1, Shouldn't obvious flipping like this be banned, especially when it comes to charity items?
In my opinion, yes.
Shouldn't obvious flipping like this be banned, especially when it comes to charity items? In my opinion, yes.
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Hairbland
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Hairbland on Feb 28, 2020 12:25:16 GMT 1, Shouldn't obvious flipping like this be banned, especially when it comes to charity items? In my opinion, yes. But it won’t, so what’s the alternative? The sound of crickets?
Shouldn't obvious flipping like this be banned, especially when it comes to charity items? In my opinion, yes. But it won’t, so what’s the alternative? The sound of crickets?
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Hairbland
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Hairbland on Feb 28, 2020 12:27:28 GMT 1, You joined this forum 18 days ago and now wear an L for Lame on your forehead. Enjoy!
You joined this forum 18 days ago and now wear an L for Lame on your forehead. Enjoy!
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 28, 2020 12:27:41 GMT 1, If Love Welcomes contact ebay they could probably get all the listings removed. A few years back, there was a write up about the British legion Ltd edition poppies being sold and ebay stopped all sales of these. Charity gigs was another one that they also used to prohibit. As this is an ongoing money raiser, I am quite sure they would do the same.
If Love Welcomes contact ebay they could probably get all the listings removed. A few years back, there was a write up about the British legion Ltd edition poppies being sold and ebay stopped all sales of these. Charity gigs was another one that they also used to prohibit. As this is an ongoing money raiser, I am quite sure they would do the same.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Daniel Silk on Feb 28, 2020 12:28:00 GMT 1, Shouldn't obvious flipping like this be banned, especially when it comes to charity items? In my opinion, yes. Flipping is what the artists want.
Two options - 1. Artists price the art at its true high market value, so it can’t be flipped for more. 2. Artists sell cheap unlimited editions that are always easily available to buy.
Shouldn't obvious flipping like this be banned, especially when it comes to charity items? In my opinion, yes. Flipping is what the artists want. Two options - 1. Artists price the art at its true high market value, so it can’t be flipped for more. 2. Artists sell cheap unlimited editions that are always easily available to buy.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 28, 2020 12:30:37 GMT 1, Flipping is what the artists want. Two options - 1. Artists price the art at its true high market value, so it can’t be flipped for more. 2. Artists sell cheap unlimited editions that are always easily available to buy.
This is for charity though, so quite different.
Flipping is what the artists want. Two options - 1. Artists price the art at its true high market value, so it can’t be flipped for more. 2. Artists sell cheap unlimited editions that are always easily available to buy. This is for charity though, so quite different.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Daniel Silk on Feb 28, 2020 12:38:40 GMT 1, Flipping is what the artists want. Two options - 1. Artists price the art at its true high market value, so it can’t be flipped for more. 2. Artists sell cheap unlimited editions that are always easily available to buy. This is for charity though, so quite different. 1. Banksy could sell these at £2,000 - £3,000 each and make much more money to help the charity. 2. Or Banksy could set up a proper facility to produce the Mats and all GDP products all in unlimited editions and sell them at lower prices, but sell more, and end up again making much more money for the charity.
Flipping is what the artists want. Two options - 1. Artists price the art at its true high market value, so it can’t be flipped for more. 2. Artists sell cheap unlimited editions that are always easily available to buy. This is for charity though, so quite different. 1. Banksy could sell these at £2,000 - £3,000 each and make much more money to help the charity. 2. Or Banksy could set up a proper facility to produce the Mats and all GDP products all in unlimited editions and sell them at lower prices, but sell more, and end up again making much more money for the charity.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Happy Shopper on Feb 28, 2020 12:42:49 GMT 1, This is for charity though, so quite different. 1. Banksy could sell these at £2,000 - £3,000 each and make much more money to help the charity. 2. Or Banksy could set up a proper facility to produce the Mats and all GDP products all in unlimited editions and sell them at lower prices, but sell more, and end up again making much more money for the charity. If they were clearly sold as unlimited (and mass produced/factory made) I don't think they'd sell so many, because collectors wouldn't be so interested in having them. You make it too easy, you also make it boring.
This is for charity though, so quite different. 1. Banksy could sell these at £2,000 - £3,000 each and make much more money to help the charity. 2. Or Banksy could set up a proper facility to produce the Mats and all GDP products all in unlimited editions and sell them at lower prices, but sell more, and end up again making much more money for the charity. If they were clearly sold as unlimited (and mass produced/factory made) I don't think they'd sell so many, because collectors wouldn't be so interested in having them. You make it too easy, you also make it boring.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 28, 2020 12:45:33 GMT 1, This is for charity though, so quite different. 1. Banksy could sell these at £2,000 - £3,000 each and make much more money to help the charity. 2. Or Banksy could set up a proper facility to produce the Mats and all GDP products all in unlimited editions and sell them at lower prices, but sell more, and end up again making much more money for the charity.
Other items from gdp, yes they could. These are not just about making money though. It is also giving the refugees a job and an income. If these are an unlimited item, then £500 a mat will continue to sell, so keeping refugees employed. If they charged £2k-£3k, then they would not sell anywhere near these numbers. The only people buying at those prices are just FOMO.
This is for charity though, so quite different. 1. Banksy could sell these at £2,000 - £3,000 each and make much more money to help the charity. 2. Or Banksy could set up a proper facility to produce the Mats and all GDP products all in unlimited editions and sell them at lower prices, but sell more, and end up again making much more money for the charity. Other items from gdp, yes they could. These are not just about making money though. It is also giving the refugees a job and an income. If these are an unlimited item, then £500 a mat will continue to sell, so keeping refugees employed. If they charged £2k-£3k, then they would not sell anywhere near these numbers. The only people buying at those prices are just FOMO.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Daniel Silk on Feb 28, 2020 12:46:30 GMT 1, 1. Banksy could sell these at £2,000 - £3,000 each and make much more money to help the charity. 2. Or Banksy could set up a proper facility to produce the Mats and all GDP products all in unlimited editions and sell them at lower prices, but sell more, and end up again making much more money for the charity. If they were clearly sold as unlimited (and mass produced/factory made) I don't think they'd sell so many, because collectors wouldn't be so interested in having them. You make it too easy, you also make it boring. Exactly, the setup is not really about the charity, it’s about creating demand and the Banksy collectors/investors happy.
1. Banksy could sell these at £2,000 - £3,000 each and make much more money to help the charity. 2. Or Banksy could set up a proper facility to produce the Mats and all GDP products all in unlimited editions and sell them at lower prices, but sell more, and end up again making much more money for the charity. If they were clearly sold as unlimited (and mass produced/factory made) I don't think they'd sell so many, because collectors wouldn't be so interested in having them. You make it too easy, you also make it boring. Exactly, the setup is not really about the charity, it’s about creating demand and the Banksy collectors/investors happy.
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GMA
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by GMA on Feb 28, 2020 12:48:59 GMT 1, I'm happy to wait, it's a good initiative and I don't see it stopping anytime soon. If it does, well so be it. That's life.
I'm happy to wait, it's a good initiative and I don't see it stopping anytime soon. If it does, well so be it. That's life.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Happy Shopper on Feb 28, 2020 12:49:43 GMT 1, If they were clearly sold as unlimited (and mass produced/factory made) I don't think they'd sell so many, because collectors wouldn't be so interested in having them. You make it too easy, you also make it boring. Exactly, the setup is not really about the charity, it’s about creating demand and the Banksy collectors/investors happy. No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash.
If they were clearly sold as unlimited (and mass produced/factory made) I don't think they'd sell so many, because collectors wouldn't be so interested in having them. You make it too easy, you also make it boring. Exactly, the setup is not really about the charity, it’s about creating demand and the Banksy collectors/investors happy. No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Daniel Silk on Feb 28, 2020 13:00:09 GMT 1, Exactly, the setup is not really about the charity, it’s about creating demand and the Banksy collectors/investors happy. No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash. Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily?
Exactly, the setup is not really about the charity, it’s about creating demand and the Banksy collectors/investors happy. No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash. Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Happy Shopper on Feb 28, 2020 13:10:42 GMT 1, No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash. Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? Resell prices isn't the point. It's how many they can sell now, for maximum profit to the charity. So a balance between availability and price for maximum return. Maybe they got it right, maybe wrong, but we'll never know. I think they know better than we do though at what price they can sell Banksy editions, and how far to push.
Yep, Banksy could sell one canvas and give more than the mats will make... but maybe he's done that too. But that wouldn't employ the ladies making these, and I think that's part of the bigger plan.
No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash. Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? Resell prices isn't the point. It's how many they can sell now, for maximum profit to the charity. So a balance between availability and price for maximum return. Maybe they got it right, maybe wrong, but we'll never know. I think they know better than we do though at what price they can sell Banksy editions, and how far to push. Yep, Banksy could sell one canvas and give more than the mats will make... but maybe he's done that too. But that wouldn't employ the ladies making these, and I think that's part of the bigger plan.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Daylight Robber on Feb 28, 2020 13:13:01 GMT 1, No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash. Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? The whole point of Love Welcomes is to give a foot up and not a hand out.
No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash. Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? The whole point of Love Welcomes is to give a foot up and not a hand out.
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qest
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by qest on Feb 28, 2020 13:17:07 GMT 1, No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash. Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? The goal to me seems to be awareness and a sustainable business, not a single cash windfall.
My understanding is that this is not a charity but a social enterprise, one of the purposes of which is to provide a sense of dignity through work and wage to the refugees who crafted the mats. What good would a couple of decent canvases do for that?
No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash. Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? The goal to me seems to be awareness and a sustainable business, not a single cash windfall. My understanding is that this is not a charity but a social enterprise, one of the purposes of which is to provide a sense of dignity through work and wage to the refugees who crafted the mats. What good would a couple of decent canvases do for that?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by warsaw project on Feb 28, 2020 13:25:02 GMT 1, Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? The goal to me seems to be awareness and a sustainable business, not a single cash windfall. My understanding is that this is not a charity but a social enterprise, one of the purposes of which is to provide a sense of dignity through work and wage to the refugees who crafted the mats. What good would a couple of decent canvases do for that? I think you have hit the nail on the head. Well said !
Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? The goal to me seems to be awareness and a sustainable business, not a single cash windfall. My understanding is that this is not a charity but a social enterprise, one of the purposes of which is to provide a sense of dignity through work and wage to the refugees who crafted the mats. What good would a couple of decent canvases do for that? I think you have hit the nail on the head. Well said !
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Daniel Silk on Feb 28, 2020 13:26:29 GMT 1, Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? The goal to me seems to be awareness and a sustainable business, not a single cash windfall. My understanding is that this is not a charity but a social enterprise, one of the purposes of which is to provide a sense of dignity through work and wage to the refugees who crafted the mats. What good would a couple of decent canvases do for that? So, wouldn’t setting up a proper small factory, employing those people, and selling in large numbers have the biggest impact in helping? Imagine hundreds given well paid employment, producing GDP products that are made, sold and sent all within a few days.
Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? The goal to me seems to be awareness and a sustainable business, not a single cash windfall. My understanding is that this is not a charity but a social enterprise, one of the purposes of which is to provide a sense of dignity through work and wage to the refugees who crafted the mats. What good would a couple of decent canvases do for that? So, wouldn’t setting up a proper small factory, employing those people, and selling in large numbers have the biggest impact in helping? Imagine hundreds given well paid employment, producing GDP products that are made, sold and sent all within a few days.
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