LJCal
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by LJCal on Feb 28, 2020 13:34:40 GMT 1, If someone wants to flip these so what? The charity has made their money, if flippers didn't buy these they probably would still have over half of them available as quite frankly only hardcore fan boys really want these for £500. It's a door mat and not a very nice one at that. If all the bleeding hearts are worried about the charity why not make a donation. If you don't like the fact somoene is looking to move these on, don't buy and move on to another thread rather than getting on your moral high horse.
If someone wants to flip these so what? The charity has made their money, if flippers didn't buy these they probably would still have over half of them available as quite frankly only hardcore fan boys really want these for £500. It's a door mat and not a very nice one at that. If all the bleeding hearts are worried about the charity why not make a donation. If you don't like the fact somoene is looking to move these on, don't buy and move on to another thread rather than getting on your moral high horse.
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Lazarus II
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Lazarus II on Feb 28, 2020 13:38:22 GMT 1, Flipping is what the artists want. Two options - 1. Artists price the art at its true high market value, so it can’t be flipped for more. 2. Artists sell cheap unlimited editions that are always easily available to buy. do you think Banksy is involved in these so that they can be flipped ?
Flipping is what the artists want. Two options - 1. Artists price the art at its true high market value, so it can’t be flipped for more. 2. Artists sell cheap unlimited editions that are always easily available to buy. do you think Banksy is involved in these so that they can be flipped ?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by iamzero on Feb 28, 2020 13:38:54 GMT 1, Perhaps a better idea would be to limited these mats to around 1000 and then release something else the ladies could make in limited numbers with the same Banksy association. This surely would continue to create a demand from everyone?
Perhaps a better idea would be to limited these mats to around 1000 and then release something else the ladies could make in limited numbers with the same Banksy association. This surely would continue to create a demand from everyone?
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Art Fan 2011
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 28, 2020 13:43:23 GMT 1, Gota feel for those who paid 2.5k for these, now they are going for barely 1k - that`s even before the Americans start a price war! As they all seem to continue to use the GSP, without realising it really puts buyers right off - These will be going for sub 1k, and quite a bit less when the ladies have made some more and the next batch get put up for sale.
Lots of money raised for the charity so far, and long may that continue!
Gota feel for those who paid 2.5k for these, now they are going for barely 1k - that`s even before the Americans start a price war! As they all seem to continue to use the GSP, without realising it really puts buyers right off - These will be going for sub 1k, and quite a bit less when the ladies have made some more and the next batch get put up for sale.
Lots of money raised for the charity so far, and long may that continue!
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Coach on Feb 28, 2020 13:43:52 GMT 1, No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash. Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily?
Who are we to suggest that his charitable efforts could be improved? “Could do better” is not the best response to someone ensuring that a charity makes loads of money. At least he’s doing something. And something pretty special in my opinion.
No, that's not what I said... They sell more and make more money this way. They know how to get us to part with our cash. Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? Who are we to suggest that his charitable efforts could be improved? “Could do better” is not the best response to someone ensuring that a charity makes loads of money. At least he’s doing something. And something pretty special in my opinion.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Coach on Feb 28, 2020 13:57:30 GMT 1, Who are we to suggest that his charitable efforts could be improved? “Could do better” is not the best response to someone ensuring that a charity makes loads of money. At least he’s doing something. And something pretty special in my opinion. Did you buy one Coach ?
Why might that be relevant to the discussion?
Who are we to suggest that his charitable efforts could be improved? “Could do better” is not the best response to someone ensuring that a charity makes loads of money. At least he’s doing something. And something pretty special in my opinion. Did you buy one Coach ? Why might that be relevant to the discussion?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Coach on Feb 28, 2020 14:07:19 GMT 1, Why might that be relevant to the discussion? I take that as a no then ?
It wasn’t a no. It was a question - how is it relevant?
Why might that be relevant to the discussion? I take that as a no then ? It wasn’t a no. It was a question - how is it relevant?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 14:13:38 GMT 1, Was the sale of your welcome mat you auctioned on eBay which achieved £2,400 completed by the buyer warchet ? Its a hell of a lot of money to make for a guy like Warchet to make . be nice
Was the sale of your welcome mat you auctioned on eBay which achieved £2,400 completed by the buyer warchet ? Its a hell of a lot of money to make for a guy like Warchet to make . be nice
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 28, 2020 14:20:45 GMT 1, This is for charity though, so quite different. 1. Banksy could sell these at £2,000 - £3,000 each and make much more money to help the charity. 2. Or Banksy could set up a proper facility to produce the Mats and all GDP products all in unlimited editions and sell them at lower prices, but sell more, and end up again making much more money for the charity.
Be careful with the honest logical banksy criticism 😄
This is for charity though, so quite different. 1. Banksy could sell these at £2,000 - £3,000 each and make much more money to help the charity. 2. Or Banksy could set up a proper facility to produce the Mats and all GDP products all in unlimited editions and sell them at lower prices, but sell more, and end up again making much more money for the charity. Be careful with the honest logical banksy criticism 😄
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 14:21:23 GMT 1, Its a hell of a lot of money to make for a guy like Warchet to make . be nice I will just leave this here Still there for both. Holla at me if you want some quick cash. ty
Its a hell of a lot of money to make for a guy like Warchet to make . be nice I will just leave this here Still there for both. Holla at me if you want some quick cash. ty
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Lazarus II
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Lazarus II on Feb 28, 2020 14:28:19 GMT 1, Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? Who are we to suggest that his charitable efforts could be improved? “Could do better” is not the best response to someone ensuring that a charity makes loads of money. At least he’s doing something. And something pretty special in my opinion. indeed, that shiftless fecker Banksy, never does enough and continues to be outshone by every other artist you can think of. He needs to up his game and release a Fck Boris kinda thing....
Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? Who are we to suggest that his charitable efforts could be improved? “Could do better” is not the best response to someone ensuring that a charity makes loads of money. At least he’s doing something. And something pretty special in my opinion. indeed, that shiftless fecker Banksy, never does enough and continues to be outshone by every other artist you can think of. He needs to up his game and release a Fck Boris kinda thing....
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 28, 2020 14:34:45 GMT 1, Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? Who are we to suggest that his charitable efforts could be improved? “Could do better” is not the best response to someone ensuring that a charity makes loads of money. At least he’s doing something. And something pretty special in my opinion.
You raise an interesting concept.
So is everyone’s 7% of net worth to fight climate change donation the ‘same’ as Bezos 10 billion dollar donation?
Eventually after all of the Mats have been sold and resold a few times and end up with those who will not resell them, what percentage of all the profits do you think will go to the charity? I would say easily less than 20% and the vast majority to the collectors/investors. If it was about giving the maximum amount to the charity, wouldn’t a couple of decent canvases put in a special charity auction have given them a million plus easily? Who are we to suggest that his charitable efforts could be improved? “Could do better” is not the best response to someone ensuring that a charity makes loads of money. At least he’s doing something. And something pretty special in my opinion. You raise an interesting concept. So is everyone’s 7% of net worth to fight climate change donation the ‘same’ as Bezos 10 billion dollar donation?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 28, 2020 14:41:42 GMT 1, Who are we to suggest that his charitable efforts could be improved? “Could do better” is not the best response to someone ensuring that a charity makes loads of money. At least he’s doing something. And something pretty special in my opinion. indeed, that shiftless fecker Banksy, never does enough and continues to be outshone by every other artist you can think of. He needs to up his game and release a Fck Boris kinda thing....
Comes down to if Banksy is just an artist or is he a philanthropist. Or a little of both? That’s what makes the analysis of some of his works (such as Walled Off) complex and not so black and white.
But what you can’t do is praise him for aspects of both and then ignore the contradictions of both. That’s what a lot of fans like to do. Take the best of both but ignore the rest.
Who are we to suggest that his charitable efforts could be improved? “Could do better” is not the best response to someone ensuring that a charity makes loads of money. At least he’s doing something. And something pretty special in my opinion. indeed, that shiftless fecker Banksy, never does enough and continues to be outshone by every other artist you can think of. He needs to up his game and release a Fck Boris kinda thing.... Comes down to if Banksy is just an artist or is he a philanthropist. Or a little of both? That’s what makes the analysis of some of his works (such as Walled Off) complex and not so black and white. But what you can’t do is praise him for aspects of both and then ignore the contradictions of both. That’s what a lot of fans like to do. Take the best of both but ignore the rest.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Matt on Feb 28, 2020 14:44:02 GMT 1, The goal to me seems to be awareness and a sustainable business, not a single cash windfall. My understanding is that this is not a charity but a social enterprise, one of the purposes of which is to provide a sense of dignity through work and wage to the refugees who crafted the mats. What good would a couple of decent canvases do for that? This. Thanks.
And really, anyone who has a great idea on "how Banksy could make loads more for charity" should probably shove the idea up their bumhole, and then see if they can also stick their head in there, because that's where it belongs.
1- Banksy has done more for the bettering of many people lives than most on here and beyond. Match that, and then you will be allowed pull your idea back out of your bum
2- There is more to this than "giving money"...if you have missed that, well...put your head back in your bum
The goal to me seems to be awareness and a sustainable business, not a single cash windfall. My understanding is that this is not a charity but a social enterprise, one of the purposes of which is to provide a sense of dignity through work and wage to the refugees who crafted the mats. What good would a couple of decent canvases do for that? This. Thanks. And really, anyone who has a great idea on " how Banksy could make loads more for charity" should probably shove the idea up their bumhole, and then see if they can also stick their head in there, because that's where it belongs. 1- Banksy has done more for the bettering of many people lives than most on here and beyond. Match that, and then you will be allowed pull your idea back out of your bum 2- There is more to this than "giving money"...if you have missed that, well...put your head back in your bum
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LJCal
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by LJCal on Feb 28, 2020 14:47:30 GMT 1, They will be under £1k in a few weeks. Think everyone is realising they paid £500 for a door mat worth £10 and 1000's more are going to come to the market in the coming months.
They will be under £1k in a few weeks. Think everyone is realising they paid £500 for a door mat worth £10 and 1000's more are going to come to the market in the coming months.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 14:49:04 GMT 1, I will just leave this here Still there for both. Holla at me if you want some quick cash. ty
You can buy a CWY for 32k still?? I don’t think so
I will just leave this here Still there for both. Holla at me if you want some quick cash. ty You can buy a CWY for 32k still?? I don’t think so
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by teabaggins on Feb 28, 2020 14:53:33 GMT 1, indeed, that shiftless fecker Banksy, never does enough and continues to be outshone by every other artist you can think of. He needs to up his game and release a Fck Boris kinda thing.... Comes down to if Banksy is just an artist or is he a philanthropist. Or a little of both? That’s what makes the analysis of some of his works (such as Walled Off) complex and not so black and white. But what you can’t do is praise him for aspects of both and then ignore the contradictions of both. That’s what a lot of fans like to do. Take the best of both but ignore the rest.
indeed, that shiftless fecker Banksy, never does enough and continues to be outshone by every other artist you can think of. He needs to up his game and release a Fck Boris kinda thing.... Comes down to if Banksy is just an artist or is he a philanthropist. Or a little of both? That’s what makes the analysis of some of his works (such as Walled Off) complex and not so black and white. But what you can’t do is praise him for aspects of both and then ignore the contradictions of both. That’s what a lot of fans like to do. Take the best of both but ignore the rest.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Jimmy Oscar on Feb 28, 2020 14:55:36 GMT 1,
I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers.
If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February.
So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch.
1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline.
Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases.
Soup posters when POW closed for example.
If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again....
Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one.
Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes.
I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers.
If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February.
So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch.
1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline.
Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases.
Soup posters when POW closed for example.
If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again....
Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one.
Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes.
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Lazarus II
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Lazarus II on Feb 28, 2020 14:59:01 GMT 1, indeed, that shiftless fecker Banksy, never does enough and continues to be outshone by every other artist you can think of. He needs to up his game and release a Fck Boris kinda thing.... Comes down to if Banksy is just an artist or is he a philanthropist. Or a little of both? That’s what makes the analysis of some of his works (such as Walled Off) complex and not so black and white. But what you can’t do is praise him for aspects of both and then ignore the contradictions of both. That’s what a lot of fans like to do. Take the best of both but ignore the rest. we’ve been there before and for once it was me who asked the question and not you (this was before i rose from the dead). Do you think he should do nothing ?
indeed, that shiftless fecker Banksy, never does enough and continues to be outshone by every other artist you can think of. He needs to up his game and release a Fck Boris kinda thing.... Comes down to if Banksy is just an artist or is he a philanthropist. Or a little of both? That’s what makes the analysis of some of his works (such as Walled Off) complex and not so black and white. But what you can’t do is praise him for aspects of both and then ignore the contradictions of both. That’s what a lot of fans like to do. Take the best of both but ignore the rest. we’ve been there before and for once it was me who asked the question and not you (this was before i rose from the dead). Do you think he should do nothing ?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 28, 2020 15:00:46 GMT 1, I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes.
Stop promoting secondary sales. You either: 1. Have one for sale 2. Hate the cause 3. Both of above
I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Stop promoting secondary sales. You either: 1. Have one for sale 2. Hate the cause 3. Both of above
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LJCal
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by LJCal on Feb 28, 2020 15:19:20 GMT 1, I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes.
Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500.
I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by witchdoctor on Feb 28, 2020 15:21:37 GMT 1, Lets just hope they get bored by the colours, and starts making green ones next 👍🏻
Lets just hope they get bored by the colours, and starts making green ones next 👍🏻
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by MD6744 on Feb 28, 2020 15:23:03 GMT 1, I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Stop promoting secondary sales. You either: 1. Have one for sale 2. Hate the cause 3. Both of above
Banksy will always be part of tbe secondary market, with nearly everything we buycomes from a secondary market... the secondary market is for everyone or this would mean no one can sell anything.. collectors will always collect and trade.
I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Stop promoting secondary sales. You either: 1. Have one for sale 2. Hate the cause 3. Both of above Banksy will always be part of tbe secondary market, with nearly everything we buycomes from a secondary market... the secondary market is for everyone or this would mean no one can sell anything.. collectors will always collect and trade.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by danbart on Feb 28, 2020 15:24:55 GMT 1, Received mine today. What's kind of weird is that mine has a 500+ number, even though I ordered it in the first batch
Received mine today. What's kind of weird is that mine has a 500+ number, even though I ordered it in the first batch
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by churchwood on Feb 28, 2020 15:30:37 GMT 1, Received mine today. What's kind of weird is that mine has a 500+ number, even though I ordered it in the first batch Here's a theory - irrelevant to the unlimited vs limited discussion, what about the existing so called VIP's.
There must be a fair amount of wealthy collectors who would have still wanted to add one of the mats to their existing Banksy collections.
Do you think some were kept back in the first run as I cannot imagine they would have been buying them from the LW site back when the initial run was available
Received mine today. What's kind of weird is that mine has a 500+ number, even though I ordered it in the first batch Here's a theory - irrelevant to the unlimited vs limited discussion, what about the existing so called VIP's. There must be a fair amount of wealthy collectors who would have still wanted to add one of the mats to their existing Banksy collections. Do you think some were kept back in the first run as I cannot imagine they would have been buying them from the LW site back when the initial run was available
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by NYart on Feb 28, 2020 15:30:45 GMT 1, I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500.
Except Banksy explicitly says the opposite, its not “just a doormat” it’s intended as a work of art. By that comparison the Met helmet or stab vests aren’t a work of art either.
No matter how many are released these will always be closer to a ‘real banksy’ than tenners, petrol bomb posters, soup cans, all of which are collected by more than “only hardcore collectors” and go for well over the retail of the mats.
I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500. Except Banksy explicitly says the opposite, its not “just a doormat” it’s intended as a work of art. By that comparison the Met helmet or stab vests aren’t a work of art either. No matter how many are released these will always be closer to a ‘real banksy’ than tenners, petrol bomb posters, soup cans, all of which are collected by more than “only hardcore collectors” and go for well over the retail of the mats.
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Jimmy Oscar
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Jimmy Oscar on Feb 28, 2020 15:31:52 GMT 1, I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Stop promoting secondary sales. You either: 1. Have one for sale 2. Hate the cause 3. Both of above 1. Don't have one for sale. 2. Don't hate the cause - I won in the lottery, will be keeping it and donated an extra £50.
Your username is very apt.
I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Stop promoting secondary sales. You either: 1. Have one for sale 2. Hate the cause 3. Both of above 1. Don't have one for sale. 2. Don't hate the cause - I won in the lottery, will be keeping it and donated an extra £50. Your username is very apt.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Happy Shopper on Feb 28, 2020 15:41:57 GMT 1, Received mine today. What's kind of weird is that mine has a 500+ number, even though I ordered it in the first batch Here's a theory - irrelevant to the unlimited vs limited discussion, what about the existing so called VIP's. There must be a fair amount of wealthy collectors who would have still wanted to add one of the mats to their existing Banksy collections. Do you think some were kept back in the first run as I cannot imagine they would have been buying them from the LW site back when the initial run was available As with any edition, I'm sure there's either extras made or a few held back in case of damage/loss.
Received mine today. What's kind of weird is that mine has a 500+ number, even though I ordered it in the first batch Here's a theory - irrelevant to the unlimited vs limited discussion, what about the existing so called VIP's. There must be a fair amount of wealthy collectors who would have still wanted to add one of the mats to their existing Banksy collections. Do you think some were kept back in the first run as I cannot imagine they would have been buying them from the LW site back when the initial run was available As with any edition, I'm sure there's either extras made or a few held back in case of damage/loss.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Daylight Robber on Feb 28, 2020 15:42:18 GMT 1, I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500.
Would make a great talking point and would do wonders to spread a message.
I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500. Would make a great talking point and would do wonders to spread a message.
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LJCal
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by LJCal on Feb 28, 2020 15:44:00 GMT 1, Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point of GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500. Except Banksy explicitly says the opposite, its not “just a doormat” it’s intended as a work of art. By that comparison the Met helmet or stab vests aren’t a work of art either. No matter how many are released these will always be closer to a ‘real banksy’ than tenners, petrol bomb posters, soup cans, all of which are collected by more than “only hardcore collectors” and go for well over the retail of the mats. Ah well Banksy said it so I stand corrected - it's a special and unique work of art and your £500 is money well spent. How are these closer to a "real banksy"? They are in exactly the same league as the item's you listed, Banksy created the original image and authorised them and then someone else is churning out an unknown number of them. just like at the other tat.
Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point of GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500. Except Banksy explicitly says the opposite, its not “just a doormat” it’s intended as a work of art. By that comparison the Met helmet or stab vests aren’t a work of art either. No matter how many are released these will always be closer to a ‘real banksy’ than tenners, petrol bomb posters, soup cans, all of which are collected by more than “only hardcore collectors” and go for well over the retail of the mats. Ah well Banksy said it so I stand corrected - it's a special and unique work of art and your £500 is money well spent. How are these closer to a "real banksy"? They are in exactly the same league as the item's you listed, Banksy created the original image and authorised them and then someone else is churning out an unknown number of them. just like at the other tat.
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