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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 28, 2020 15:46:06 GMT 1, Stop promoting secondary sales. You either: 1. Have one for sale 2. Hate the cause 3. Both of above 1. Don't have one for sale. 2. Don't hate the cause - I won in the lottery, will be keeping it and donated an extra £50. Your username is very apt.
So you saying 'Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases' when Love Welcomes have confirmed more will be made is helping who exactly?
Stop promoting secondary sales. You either: 1. Have one for sale 2. Hate the cause 3. Both of above 1. Don't have one for sale. 2. Don't hate the cause - I won in the lottery, will be keeping it and donated an extra £50. Your username is very apt. So you saying 'Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases' when Love Welcomes have confirmed more will be made is helping who exactly?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by case on Feb 28, 2020 15:57:02 GMT 1, I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500. Then do it.
I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500. Then do it.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 16:06:59 GMT 1, I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500.
Every few pages someone makes this argument like it’s insightful and not the most basic argument used against any art. Now tell us your kid could do better.
I think some might be being overly optimistic about future numbers. If I recall the original email stating no more left was back in the middle of October - and we now sit at the end of February. So it's taken them 4 months to get the original 500 out - and now working on the next batch. 1000s more coming to market might be a stretch going by that timeline. Paying 2x or 2.5x original cost on an authorized Banksy is not a huge inflation compared to other releases. Soup posters when POW closed for example. If you feel lucky then wait a few months and see if you get lucky again.... Otherwise you might want to grab one now from the secondary. Any number of things can happen to stop these being produced, sadly Coronavirus arriving in the area might be such one. Good luck either way - amazing gesture by Banksy and great work by Love Welcomes. Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500. Every few pages someone makes this argument like it’s insightful and not the most basic argument used against any art. Now tell us your kid could do better.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by LJCal on Feb 28, 2020 16:13:46 GMT 1, Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500. Every few pages someone makes this argument like it’s insightful and not the most basic argument used against any art. Now tell us your kid could do better. Except in this case the artist decribes the item as homeware and promises a dispointing experience especially to those who make a purchase. Banksy is literally taking the piss out of people and they are lapping it up, that is the art.
Comparing these to other Banksy releases misses the point, it’s a door mat and a pretty shabby one, it’s kind of the point if GDP. These are not desirable and only hardcore collectors will have any interest in them. I’d much rather buy a factory made door mat from Homebase for £10 and just donate the £500. Every few pages someone makes this argument like it’s insightful and not the most basic argument used against any art. Now tell us your kid could do better. Except in this case the artist decribes the item as homeware and promises a dispointing experience especially to those who make a purchase. Banksy is literally taking the piss out of people and they are lapping it up, that is the art.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 28, 2020 16:42:36 GMT 1, Comes down to if Banksy is just an artist or is he a philanthropist. Or a little of both? That’s what makes the analysis of some of his works (such as Walled Off) complex and not so black and white. But what you can’t do is praise him for aspects of both and then ignore the contradictions of both. That’s what a lot of fans like to do. Take the best of both but ignore the rest. we’ve been there before and for once it was me who asked the question and not you (this was before i rose from the dead). Do you think he should do nothing ?
No he should do what he wants.
Do you think it is art or charity?
Comes down to if Banksy is just an artist or is he a philanthropist. Or a little of both? That’s what makes the analysis of some of his works (such as Walled Off) complex and not so black and white. But what you can’t do is praise him for aspects of both and then ignore the contradictions of both. That’s what a lot of fans like to do. Take the best of both but ignore the rest. we’ve been there before and for once it was me who asked the question and not you (this was before i rose from the dead). Do you think he should do nothing ? No he should do what he wants. Do you think it is art or charity?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by juni0209 on Feb 28, 2020 16:51:21 GMT 1, Mine arrived today. What an incredible piece of art! Thanks Love welcomes 🙏
Mine arrived today. What an incredible piece of art! Thanks Love welcomes 🙏
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by mojo on Feb 28, 2020 16:53:43 GMT 1, Most likely a gun shaped cigarette lighter from Bangkok ...how very gangster.
I did wonder what their motivation would be to help out a refugee....now I get it. Anybody that buys a second hand 'flipped' doormat is quite literally taking money out of a refugee's hand. And the people that bought to sell on at a huge profit are doing far worse than that and should be ashamed of themselves.
Most likely a gun shaped cigarette lighter from Bangkok ...how very gangster. I did wonder what their motivation would be to help out a refugee....now I get it. Anybody that buys a second hand 'flipped' doormat is quite literally taking money out of a refugee's hand. And the people that bought to sell on at a huge profit are doing far worse than that and should be ashamed of themselves.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by LJCal on Feb 28, 2020 16:59:37 GMT 1, Except in this case the artist decribes the item as homeware and promises a dispointing experience especially to those who make a purchase. Banksy is literally taking the piss out of people and they are lapping it up, that is the art. No he isn’t. Again, a print is also ‘homeware’. Well, to those who enjoy viewing art in their home on a daily basis it is, to dealers like you it’s just a commodity. Dealer? lol
Except in this case the artist decribes the item as homeware and promises a dispointing experience especially to those who make a purchase. Banksy is literally taking the piss out of people and they are lapping it up, that is the art. No he isn’t. Again, a print is also ‘homeware’. Well, to those who enjoy viewing art in their home on a daily basis it is, to dealers like you it’s just a commodity. Dealer? lol
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by LJCal on Feb 28, 2020 17:04:04 GMT 1, Still there for both. Holla at me if you want some quick cash. ty You can buy a CWY for 32k still?? I don’t think so You can't buy donuts for £23k either.
Still there for both. Holla at me if you want some quick cash. ty You can buy a CWY for 32k still?? I don’t think so You can't buy donuts for £23k either.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by The Italian One on Feb 28, 2020 17:05:08 GMT 1, Received mine today. What's kind of weird is that mine has a 500+ number, even though I ordered it in the first batch also mine is 50# .......really strange but very happy as it look fantastic
Received mine today. What's kind of weird is that mine has a 500+ number, even though I ordered it in the first batch also mine is 50# .......really strange but very happy as it look fantastic
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by That Print Guy on Feb 28, 2020 17:05:34 GMT 1, Anybody that buys a second hand 'flipped' doormat is quite literally taking money out of a refugee's hand. And the people that bought to sell on at a huge profit are doing far worse than that and should be ashamed of themselves. I don't think you know what that word means, literally
Anybody that buys a second hand 'flipped' doormat is quite literally taking money out of a refugee's hand. And the people that bought to sell on at a huge profit are doing far worse than that and should be ashamed of themselves. I don't think you know what that word means, literally
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by mojo on Feb 28, 2020 17:13:29 GMT 1, Anybody that buys a second hand 'flipped' doormat is quite literally taking money out of a refugee's hand. And the people that bought to sell on at a huge profit are doing far worse than that and should be ashamed of themselves. I don't think you know what that word means, literally without exaggeration or inaccuracy
Anybody that buys a second hand 'flipped' doormat is quite literally taking money out of a refugee's hand. And the people that bought to sell on at a huge profit are doing far worse than that and should be ashamed of themselves. I don't think you know what that word means, literally without exaggeration or inaccuracy
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by MD6744 on Feb 28, 2020 17:34:38 GMT 1, Most likely a gun shaped cigarette lighter from Bangkok ...how very gangster. I did wonder what their motivation would be to help out a refugee....now I get it. Anybody that buys a second hand 'flipped' doormat is quite literally taking money out of a refugee's hand. And the people that bought to sell on at a huge profit are doing far worse than that and should be ashamed of themselves. probably a water pistol that squirts Pias tears
They are a collectors item because they at attached to Banksy, thats why they're £500 pound in the first place
They're only ever become more collectable, meaning the price will rise up
Everyones a winner involved, brilliant from Banksy what hes done.
Most likely a gun shaped cigarette lighter from Bangkok ...how very gangster. I did wonder what their motivation would be to help out a refugee....now I get it. Anybody that buys a second hand 'flipped' doormat is quite literally taking money out of a refugee's hand. And the people that bought to sell on at a huge profit are doing far worse than that and should be ashamed of themselves. probably a water pistol that squirts Pias tears They are a collectors item because they at attached to Banksy, thats why they're £500 pound in the first place They're only ever become more collectable, meaning the price will rise up Everyones a winner involved, brilliant from Banksy what hes done.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Deleted on Feb 28, 2020 17:35:33 GMT 1, Every few pages someone makes this argument like it’s insightful and not the most basic argument used against any art. Now tell us your kid could do better. Except in this case the artist decribes the item as homeware and promises a dispointing experience especially to those who make a purchase. Banksy is literally taking the piss out of people and they are lapping it up, that is the art. Banksy's taken the piss out of his fans and himself for years. He produced a piece called I Can't Believe You Morons Actually Buy This Shit, ffs. The description of Banksquiat says Banksy is just as bad as all the other artists doing work that borrows from Basquiat. Saying he takes the piss is just not a very original observation.
I also would say it applies less to this piece than some others in GDP. It would go against everything he's ever done and said to use refugee women as part of a piss-taking exercise. It would be disrespectful to them if he was just employing them to make jokey tat. _They_ are the art. If they hadn't made it, the piece would have little interesting about it. The materials used and the makers are intrinsic to its worth (not in the financial sense) as art.
The homeware description and disappointing experience apply to everything in the Gross Domestic Product shop, from the mugs to the Banksquiat print to the vest.
Every few pages someone makes this argument like it’s insightful and not the most basic argument used against any art. Now tell us your kid could do better. Except in this case the artist decribes the item as homeware and promises a dispointing experience especially to those who make a purchase. Banksy is literally taking the piss out of people and they are lapping it up, that is the art. Banksy's taken the piss out of his fans and himself for years. He produced a piece called I Can't Believe You Morons Actually Buy This Shit, ffs. The description of Banksquiat says Banksy is just as bad as all the other artists doing work that borrows from Basquiat. Saying he takes the piss is just not a very original observation. I also would say it applies less to this piece than some others in GDP. It would go against everything he's ever done and said to use refugee women as part of a piss-taking exercise. It would be disrespectful to them if he was just employing them to make jokey tat. _They_ are the art. If they hadn't made it, the piece would have little interesting about it. The materials used and the makers are intrinsic to its worth (not in the financial sense) as art. The homeware description and disappointing experience apply to everything in the Gross Domestic Product shop, from the mugs to the Banksquiat print to the vest.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Charlie Bronson on Feb 28, 2020 17:35:40 GMT 1, I just bought one on eBay for $1300....it is what it is.
I just bought one on eBay for $1300....it is what it is.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Inknart on Feb 28, 2020 17:37:29 GMT 1, I just bought one on eBay for $1300....it is what it is. That doesn't seem like a bad price at all imo. Was the piece in hand or do you have to wait 5 months and then maybe have to deal with a cancellation?
I just bought one on eBay for $1300....it is what it is. That doesn't seem like a bad price at all imo. Was the piece in hand or do you have to wait 5 months and then maybe have to deal with a cancellation?
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Charlie Bronson on Feb 28, 2020 17:45:27 GMT 1, I just bought one on eBay for $1300....it is what it is. That doesn't seem like a bad price at all imo. Was the piece in hand or do you have to wait 5 months and then maybe have to deal with a cancellation?
Not in hand....”Confirmed Order”....we’ll see🤷🏻♂️
I just bought one on eBay for $1300....it is what it is. That doesn't seem like a bad price at all imo. Was the piece in hand or do you have to wait 5 months and then maybe have to deal with a cancellation? Not in hand....”Confirmed Order”....we’ll see🤷🏻♂️
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Dust Buster on Feb 28, 2020 17:59:14 GMT 1, So, wouldn’t setting up a proper small factory, employing those people, and selling in large numbers have the biggest impact in helping? Imagine hundreds given well paid employment, producing GDP products that are made, sold and sent all within a few days.
Anything can happen obviously but I see this whole thing as kind a blend of a pledge drive and charity auction where artists/celebs donate things. Neither lasts forever. What’s happening now with more mats hopefully being made in the future is akin to “Due to the overwhelming success of the [insert charity] pledge drive, we’ve extended the drive by [enter time].”
If it was good for charities to do never ending auctions, drives, and other short term-like fundraisers, they would. But like I said anything can and will happen, it’s just how I see it.
So, wouldn’t setting up a proper small factory, employing those people, and selling in large numbers have the biggest impact in helping? Imagine hundreds given well paid employment, producing GDP products that are made, sold and sent all within a few days. Anything can happen obviously but I see this whole thing as kind a blend of a pledge drive and charity auction where artists/celebs donate things. Neither lasts forever. What’s happening now with more mats hopefully being made in the future is akin to “Due to the overwhelming success of the [insert charity] pledge drive, we’ve extended the drive by [enter time].” If it was good for charities to do never ending auctions, drives, and other short term-like fundraisers, they would. But like I said anything can and will happen, it’s just how I see it.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Dust Buster on Feb 28, 2020 18:01:34 GMT 1, Plus with them being numbered signals to me that it’s an edition of some sort, just a edition without a defined size at this point.
Plus with them being numbered signals to me that it’s an edition of some sort, just a edition without a defined size at this point.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Wearology on Feb 28, 2020 18:10:49 GMT 1, The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well.
The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by LJCal on Feb 28, 2020 18:11:54 GMT 1, The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well.
Pretty cynical but pretty accurate
The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well. Pretty cynical but pretty accurate
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Wearology on Feb 28, 2020 18:17:11 GMT 1, The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well. Pretty cynical but pretty accurate I am extra bitter and in a get off my lawn mood today. After 14 years of chasing lotteries, drops, releases and every other form of not being able to buy at source I decided to share my bitterness with our community.
The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well. Pretty cynical but pretty accurate I am extra bitter and in a get off my lawn mood today. After 14 years of chasing lotteries, drops, releases and every other form of not being able to buy at source I decided to share my bitterness with our community.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by overend on Feb 28, 2020 18:17:44 GMT 1, The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well.
No good deed goes unpunished in this place 👀
The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well. No good deed goes unpunished in this place 👀
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Happy Shopper on Feb 28, 2020 18:21:51 GMT 1, The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well. I'm not sure the charity mat created much extra demand for his work than the GDP shop did by itself.
The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well. I'm not sure the charity mat created much extra demand for his work than the GDP shop did by itself.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by apprint on Feb 28, 2020 18:23:44 GMT 1, Still there for both. Holla at me if you want some quick cash. ty You can buy a CWY for 32k still?? I don’t think so
I don’t think so
Still there for both. Holla at me if you want some quick cash. ty You can buy a CWY for 32k still?? I don’t think so I don’t think so
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Coach on Feb 28, 2020 18:34:48 GMT 1, The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well.
It couldn’t just be to help the charity and the people it helps? I’m afraid I don’t agree with your analysis Wear. That’s fine though. There’s many other ways he could have self promoted with more success if that had been his intention with this little venture. But he chose to do this. I suspect that a lot of people who need it will benefit from it. Ps I’ve never won a Banksy lottery either, gdp or earlier.
The goal was to build brand Banksy even bigger through his name being affiliated with a low level charity to make it appear more authentic and organic while creating an even larger demand for his goods and services and increasing the value of his art in the primary and secondary markets. That goal has been achieved through the amazing marketing of GNP. The puppet master has created the stage and us the puppets marched in line like good little boys and girls. It is always fun to be a consistent and loyal pawn in someone else's marketing program. We can assume that his 4 quarter profits are up and all is well. It couldn’t just be to help the charity and the people it helps? I’m afraid I don’t agree with your analysis Wear. That’s fine though. There’s many other ways he could have self promoted with more success if that had been his intention with this little venture. But he chose to do this. I suspect that a lot of people who need it will benefit from it. Ps I’ve never won a Banksy lottery either, gdp or earlier.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by kuni on Feb 28, 2020 18:37:59 GMT 1, Except in this case the artist decribes the item as homeware and promises a dispointing experience especially to those who make a purchase. Banksy is literally taking the piss out of people and they are lapping it up, that is the art. Banksy's taken the piss out of his fans and himself for years. He produced a piece called I Can't Believe You Morons Actually Buy Thiss**t, ffs. The description of Banksquiat says Banksy is just as bad as all the other artists doing work that borrows from Basquiat. Saying he takes the piss is just not a very original observation. I also would say it applies less to this piece than some others in GDP. It would go against everything he's ever done and said to use refugee women as part of a piss-taking exercise. It would be disrespectful to them if he was just employing them to make jokey tat. _They_ are the art. If they hadn't made it, the piece would have little interesting about it. The materials used and the makers are intrinsic to its worth (not in the financial sense) as art. The homeware description and disappointing experience apply to everything in the Gross Domestic Product shop, from the mugs to the Banksquiat print to the vest. right? I mean the guy literally attached a handle to a brick and called it a purse and it’s going to trade for $100K+ on the secondary market with people lined up around the block ready to cut a check. If that isn’t taking the piss (as you brits like to say) then I don’t know what is.
Except in this case the artist decribes the item as homeware and promises a dispointing experience especially to those who make a purchase. Banksy is literally taking the piss out of people and they are lapping it up, that is the art. Banksy's taken the piss out of his fans and himself for years. He produced a piece called I Can't Believe You Morons Actually Buy Thiss**t, ffs. The description of Banksquiat says Banksy is just as bad as all the other artists doing work that borrows from Basquiat. Saying he takes the piss is just not a very original observation. I also would say it applies less to this piece than some others in GDP. It would go against everything he's ever done and said to use refugee women as part of a piss-taking exercise. It would be disrespectful to them if he was just employing them to make jokey tat. _They_ are the art. If they hadn't made it, the piece would have little interesting about it. The materials used and the makers are intrinsic to its worth (not in the financial sense) as art. The homeware description and disappointing experience apply to everything in the Gross Domestic Product shop, from the mugs to the Banksquiat print to the vest. right? I mean the guy literally attached a handle to a brick and called it a purse and it’s going to trade for $100K+ on the secondary market with people lined up around the block ready to cut a check. If that isn’t taking the piss (as you brits like to say) then I don’t know what is.
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qest
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by qest on Feb 28, 2020 18:38:57 GMT 1, Seems like profits would have been a lot more if Banksy had charged market for the GDP pieces, made larger editions, or both.
Seems like profits would have been a lot more if Banksy had charged market for the GDP pieces, made larger editions, or both.
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Terry Fuckwitt on Feb 28, 2020 19:02:29 GMT 1, Damn, there is a lot of hate for Banksy today. It's murkke innit! He's got into your heads! or maybe you weren't selected for the gdp lottery or mat🤔
Damn, there is a lot of hate for Banksy today. It's murkke innit! He's got into your heads! or maybe you weren't selected for the gdp lottery or mat🤔
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Dice
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Banksy Welcome Mat, by Dice on Feb 28, 2020 19:19:26 GMT 1, Banksy's taken the piss out of his fans and himself for years. He produced a piece called I Can't Believe You Morons Actually Buy Thiss**t, ffs. The description of Banksquiat says Banksy is just as bad as all the other artists doing work that borrows from Basquiat. Saying he takes the piss is just not a very original observation. I also would say it applies less to this piece than some others in GDP. It would go against everything he's ever done and said to use refugee women as part of a piss-taking exercise. It would be disrespectful to them if he was just employing them to make jokey tat. _They_ are the art. If they hadn't made it, the piece would have little interesting about it. The materials used and the makers are intrinsic to its worth (not in the financial sense) as art. The homeware description and disappointing experience apply to everything in the Gross Domestic Product shop, from the mugs to the Banksquiat print to the vest. right? I mean the guy literally attached a handle to a brick and called it a purse and it’s going to trade for $100K+ on the secondary market with people lined up around the block ready to cut a check. If that isn’t taking the piss (as you brits like to say) then I don’t know what is.
I bet you wish you thought of it first, right?
Banksy's taken the piss out of his fans and himself for years. He produced a piece called I Can't Believe You Morons Actually Buy Thiss**t, ffs. The description of Banksquiat says Banksy is just as bad as all the other artists doing work that borrows from Basquiat. Saying he takes the piss is just not a very original observation. I also would say it applies less to this piece than some others in GDP. It would go against everything he's ever done and said to use refugee women as part of a piss-taking exercise. It would be disrespectful to them if he was just employing them to make jokey tat. _They_ are the art. If they hadn't made it, the piece would have little interesting about it. The materials used and the makers are intrinsic to its worth (not in the financial sense) as art. The homeware description and disappointing experience apply to everything in the Gross Domestic Product shop, from the mugs to the Banksquiat print to the vest. right? I mean the guy literally attached a handle to a brick and called it a purse and it’s going to trade for $100K+ on the secondary market with people lined up around the block ready to cut a check. If that isn’t taking the piss (as you brits like to say) then I don’t know what is. I bet you wish you thought of it first, right?
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