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Harland Miller • ACE, by Riotcops on Dec 5, 2019 16:54:16 GMT 1, Just want to state people were swooning over various HM editions yesterday at Art Miami and a "I am the one I've been waiting for" sold for $45k on the spot.
Just want to state people were swooning over various HM editions yesterday at Art Miami and a "I am the one I've been waiting for" sold for $45k on the spot.
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teabaggins
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Harland Miller • ACE, by teabaggins on Dec 5, 2019 17:00:37 GMT 1, My point is that it's an overvalued artist, that has zero range and with a change of style is sliding further and further artistically. Furthermore, it's an artist that's often discussed in this community as well as the bigger art world to a degree, which is the polar opposite of Bambi. Should I only comment on things that I like and agree with? The new Sainer show is going to be amazing, can't wait !!!!! Happy ? I mean what's the point of a forum without different opinions? Totally good to have opinions on here. I think this discussion needs some hard facts though. Have prices actually been going down? Evidence would be interesting to see. I don’t know. This “everyone is entitled to their opinion” to me is fast becoming a paradigm of tolerated bullshit in society. It’s a masquerade of the ill or under informed. It’s statement meant to stop an educated conversation about unchecked stupidity.
I’ve seen it out well this way: Having a worthwhile opinion on complex matters, and being worth listening to on that opinion, requires hard work and preparation. It requires years of education (not always the same thing as schooling), in which one reads widely and learns to think carefully.
If ‘everyone’s entitled to their opinion’ just means no one has the right to stop people thinking and saying whatever they want, then the statement is true but fairly trivial,. “But if ‘entitled to an opinion’ means ‘entitled to have your views treated as serious candidates for the truth’ then it’s pretty clearly false.”
My point is that it's an overvalued artist, that has zero range and with a change of style is sliding further and further artistically. Furthermore, it's an artist that's often discussed in this community as well as the bigger art world to a degree, which is the polar opposite of Bambi. Should I only comment on things that I like and agree with? The new Sainer show is going to be amazing, can't wait !!!!! Happy ? I mean what's the point of a forum without different opinions? Totally good to have opinions on here. I think this discussion needs some hard facts though. Have prices actually been going down? Evidence would be interesting to see. I don’t know. This “everyone is entitled to their opinion” to me is fast becoming a paradigm of tolerated bullshit in society. It’s a masquerade of the ill or under informed. It’s statement meant to stop an educated conversation about unchecked stupidity. I’ve seen it out well this way: Having a worthwhile opinion on complex matters, and being worth listening to on that opinion, requires hard work and preparation. It requires years of education (not always the same thing as schooling), in which one reads widely and learns to think carefully. If ‘everyone’s entitled to their opinion’ just means no one has the right to stop people thinking and saying whatever they want, then the statement is true but fairly trivial,. “But if ‘entitled to an opinion’ means ‘entitled to have your views treated as serious candidates for the truth’ then it’s pretty clearly false.”
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Happy Shopper on Dec 5, 2019 17:06:54 GMT 1, Totally good to have opinions on here. I think this discussion needs some hard facts though. Have prices actually been going down? Evidence would be interesting to see. I don’t know. This “everyone is entitled to their opinion” to me is fast becoming a paradigm of tolerated bullshit in society. It’s a masquerade of the ill or under informed. It’s statement meant to stop an educated conversation about unchecked stupidity. I’ve seen it out well this way: Having a worthwhile opinion on complex matters, and being worth listening to on that opinion, requires hard work and preparation. It requires years of education (not always the same thing as schooling), in which one reads widely and learns to think carefully. If ‘everyone’s entitled to their opinion’ just means no one has the right to stop people thinking and saying whatever they want, then the statement is true but fairly trivial,. “But if ‘entitled to an opinion’ means ‘entitled to have your views treated as serious candidates for the truth’ then it’s pretty clearly false.” Well, that's just your opinion, innit.
Totally good to have opinions on here. I think this discussion needs some hard facts though. Have prices actually been going down? Evidence would be interesting to see. I don’t know. This “everyone is entitled to their opinion” to me is fast becoming a paradigm of tolerated bullshit in society. It’s a masquerade of the ill or under informed. It’s statement meant to stop an educated conversation about unchecked stupidity. I’ve seen it out well this way: Having a worthwhile opinion on complex matters, and being worth listening to on that opinion, requires hard work and preparation. It requires years of education (not always the same thing as schooling), in which one reads widely and learns to think carefully. If ‘everyone’s entitled to their opinion’ just means no one has the right to stop people thinking and saying whatever they want, then the statement is true but fairly trivial,. “But if ‘entitled to an opinion’ means ‘entitled to have your views treated as serious candidates for the truth’ then it’s pretty clearly false.” Well, that's just your opinion, innit.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by teabaggins on Dec 5, 2019 17:19:57 GMT 1, Genuine question... Why take the time to start a thread about art or an artist that by your words you DO NOT find: A. “Value in” B. “Interesting” C. Or “Visually appealing”? What is the point? You would think we’d have a million more Bambi threads with this thought process. My point is that it's an overvalued artist, that has zero range and with a change of style is sliding further and further artistically. Furthermore, it's an artist that's often discussed in this community as well as the bigger art world to a degree, which is the polar opposite of Bambi. Should I only comment on things that I like and agree with? The new Sainer show is going to be amazing, can't wait !!!!! Happy ? I mean what's the point of a forum without different opinions? I think opinions drive conversation. If you don't want to have this conversation, no problem, but I genuinely don't see what the issue is. Here is the difference..
“I don’t enjoy the taste of ginger” is an opinion that requires little further qualification.
“Ginger is overvalued and ginger flavor is over” as an “opinion” requires some level of fact based intelligent qualification to be considered anything but noise.
** You are not personally the target of my triggered rant to be fair. It’s just gotten all to common here and why a lot of folk who like to have a deeper discussion are doing so elsewhere.
Genuine question... Why take the time to start a thread about art or an artist that by your words you DO NOT find: A. “Value in” B. “Interesting” C. Or “Visually appealing”? What is the point? You would think we’d have a million more Bambi threads with this thought process. My point is that it's an overvalued artist, that has zero range and with a change of style is sliding further and further artistically. Furthermore, it's an artist that's often discussed in this community as well as the bigger art world to a degree, which is the polar opposite of Bambi. Should I only comment on things that I like and agree with? The new Sainer show is going to be amazing, can't wait !!!!! Happy ? I mean what's the point of a forum without different opinions? I think opinions drive conversation. If you don't want to have this conversation, no problem, but I genuinely don't see what the issue is. Here is the difference.. “I don’t enjoy the taste of ginger” is an opinion that requires little further qualification. “Ginger is overvalued and ginger flavor is over” as an “opinion” requires some level of fact based intelligent qualification to be considered anything but noise. ** You are not personally the target of my triggered rant to be fair. It’s just gotten all to common here and why a lot of folk who like to have a deeper discussion are doing so elsewhere.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 17:20:07 GMT 1, Totally good to have opinions on here. I think this discussion needs some hard facts though. Have prices actually been going down? Evidence would be interesting to see. I don’t know. This “everyone is entitled to their opinion” to me is fast becoming a paradigm of tolerated bullshit in society. It’s a masquerade of the ill or under informed. It’s statement meant to stop an educated conversation about unchecked stupidity. I’ve seen it out well this way: Having a worthwhile opinion on complex matters, and being worth listening to on that opinion, requires hard work and preparation. It requires years of education (not always the same thing as schooling), in which one reads widely and learns to think carefully. If ‘everyone’s entitled to their opinion’ just means no one has the right to stop people thinking and saying whatever they want, then the statement is true but fairly trivial,. “But if ‘entitled to an opinion’ means ‘entitled to have your views treated as serious candidates for the truth’ then it’s pretty clearly false.” How do you propose we qualify someone to have had years of education sufficient to judge the quality of Harland Millers recent works ? Shall we get an art historian or gallery owner to contribute to our street art forum ? If you want to interact with someone who has done a study on the relevance of Harland Millers work in the context of art history, this certainly is not the place.
If you want to discuss the *subjective* nature of his recent work, and your opinion of it, I'd encourage you to do so without necessarily having done years of research or feeling that your opinion is fairly trivial. I don't think anyone here is doing correlative studies on his print market to date and extrapolating forward.
In the societal sense, I do agree with you, in the case of attempting to persuade others to take action based on unfounded information. But that is not what art, or this forum, is about. So I see your point, but I certainly do not agree with it in this context.
Totally good to have opinions on here. I think this discussion needs some hard facts though. Have prices actually been going down? Evidence would be interesting to see. I don’t know. This “everyone is entitled to their opinion” to me is fast becoming a paradigm of tolerated bullshit in society. It’s a masquerade of the ill or under informed. It’s statement meant to stop an educated conversation about unchecked stupidity. I’ve seen it out well this way: Having a worthwhile opinion on complex matters, and being worth listening to on that opinion, requires hard work and preparation. It requires years of education (not always the same thing as schooling), in which one reads widely and learns to think carefully. If ‘everyone’s entitled to their opinion’ just means no one has the right to stop people thinking and saying whatever they want, then the statement is true but fairly trivial,. “But if ‘entitled to an opinion’ means ‘entitled to have your views treated as serious candidates for the truth’ then it’s pretty clearly false.” How do you propose we qualify someone to have had years of education sufficient to judge the quality of Harland Millers recent works ? Shall we get an art historian or gallery owner to contribute to our street art forum ? If you want to interact with someone who has done a study on the relevance of Harland Millers work in the context of art history, this certainly is not the place. If you want to discuss the *subjective* nature of his recent work, and your opinion of it, I'd encourage you to do so without necessarily having done years of research or feeling that your opinion is fairly trivial. I don't think anyone here is doing correlative studies on his print market to date and extrapolating forward. In the societal sense, I do agree with you, in the case of attempting to persuade others to take action based on unfounded information. But that is not what art, or this forum, is about. So I see your point, but I certainly do not agree with it in this context.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 17:22:10 GMT 1, My point is that it's an overvalued artist, that has zero range and with a change of style is sliding further and further artistically. Furthermore, it's an artist that's often discussed in this community as well as the bigger art world to a degree, which is the polar opposite of Bambi. Should I only comment on things that I like and agree with? The new Sainer show is going to be amazing, can't wait !!!!! Happy ? I mean what's the point of a forum without different opinions? I think opinions drive conversation. If you don't want to have this conversation, no problem, but I genuinely don't see what the issue is. Here is the difference.. “I don’t enjoy the taste of ginger” is an opinion that requires little further qualification. “Ginger is overvalued and ginger flavor is over” as an “opinion” requires some level of fact based intelligent qualification to be considered anything but noise. Ginger flavor is over (I thought) was clearly meant as a sarcastic title. I do not think, nor do I think anyone on here (I guess I''m wrong), thought that I was literally saying that Harland Miller was literally worth zero.
My point is that it's an overvalued artist, that has zero range and with a change of style is sliding further and further artistically. Furthermore, it's an artist that's often discussed in this community as well as the bigger art world to a degree, which is the polar opposite of Bambi. Should I only comment on things that I like and agree with? The new Sainer show is going to be amazing, can't wait !!!!! Happy ? I mean what's the point of a forum without different opinions? I think opinions drive conversation. If you don't want to have this conversation, no problem, but I genuinely don't see what the issue is. Here is the difference.. “I don’t enjoy the taste of ginger” is an opinion that requires little further qualification. “Ginger is overvalued and ginger flavor is over” as an “opinion” requires some level of fact based intelligent qualification to be considered anything but noise. Ginger flavor is over (I thought) was clearly meant as a sarcastic title. I do not think, nor do I think anyone on here (I guess I''m wrong), thought that I was literally saying that Harland Miller was literally worth zero.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 17:49:38 GMT 1, Here is the difference.. “I don’t enjoy the taste of ginger” is an opinion that requires little further qualification. “Ginger is overvalued and ginger flavor is over” as an “opinion” requires some level of fact based intelligent qualification to be considered anything but noise. Ginger flavor is over (I thought) was clearly meant as a sarcastic title. I do not think, nor do I think anyone on here (I guess I''m wrong), thought that I was literally saying that Harland Miller was literally worth zero. I think the point is, "It was a cheap trick with the penguin cheeky lines from the very start," is an opinion and absolutely fair enough. Seems plenty of people happy to civilly discuss if his ideas are drying up.
"I think this market is going down," is a statement on verifiable fact. Is his market going down? What's your evidence? You can't have an opinion on a declining market. It's either declining or it isn't.
Here is the difference.. “I don’t enjoy the taste of ginger” is an opinion that requires little further qualification. “Ginger is overvalued and ginger flavor is over” as an “opinion” requires some level of fact based intelligent qualification to be considered anything but noise. Ginger flavor is over (I thought) was clearly meant as a sarcastic title. I do not think, nor do I think anyone on here (I guess I''m wrong), thought that I was literally saying that Harland Miller was literally worth zero. I think the point is, "It was a cheap trick with the penguin cheeky lines from the very start," is an opinion and absolutely fair enough. Seems plenty of people happy to civilly discuss if his ideas are drying up. "I think this market is going down," is a statement on verifiable fact. Is his market going down? What's your evidence? You can't have an opinion on a declining market. It's either declining or it isn't.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 18:05:19 GMT 1, Ginger flavor is over (I thought) was clearly meant as a sarcastic title. I do not think, nor do I think anyone on here (I guess I''m wrong), thought that I was literally saying that Harland Miller was literally worth zero. I think the point is, "It was a cheap trick with the penguin cheeky lines from the very start," is an opinion and absolutely fair enough. Seems plenty of people happy to civilly discuss if his ideas are drying up. "I think this market is going down," is a statement on verifiable fact. Is his market going down? What's your evidence? You can't have an opinion on a declining market. It's either declining or it isn't. I'm sorry, but "I THINK" + "FUTURE PROJECTION" is by definition NOT a statement on a verifiable fact. You cannot currently verify something relating to the future, and it specifically states "I THINK" as a statement to show personal opinion.
Ginger flavor is over (I thought) was clearly meant as a sarcastic title. I do not think, nor do I think anyone on here (I guess I''m wrong), thought that I was literally saying that Harland Miller was literally worth zero. I think the point is, "It was a cheap trick with the penguin cheeky lines from the very start," is an opinion and absolutely fair enough. Seems plenty of people happy to civilly discuss if his ideas are drying up. "I think this market is going down," is a statement on verifiable fact. Is his market going down? What's your evidence? You can't have an opinion on a declining market. It's either declining or it isn't. I'm sorry, but "I THINK" + "FUTURE PROJECTION" is by definition NOT a statement on a verifiable fact. You cannot currently verify something relating to the future, and it specifically states "I THINK" as a statement to show personal opinion.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 18:09:08 GMT 1, I think the point is, "It was a cheap trick with the penguin cheeky lines from the very start," is an opinion and absolutely fair enough. Seems plenty of people happy to civilly discuss if his ideas are drying up. "I think this market is going down," is a statement on verifiable fact. Is his market going down? What's your evidence? You can't have an opinion on a declining market. It's either declining or it isn't. I'm sorry, but "I THINK" + "FUTURE PROJECTION" is by definition NOT a statement on a verifiable fact. You cannot currently verify something relating to the future, and it specifically states "I THINK" as a statement to show personal opinion. Apologies, I misunderstood what you were saying. It seemed like you were suggesting his market was currently taking a downturn.
I think the point is, "It was a cheap trick with the penguin cheeky lines from the very start," is an opinion and absolutely fair enough. Seems plenty of people happy to civilly discuss if his ideas are drying up. "I think this market is going down," is a statement on verifiable fact. Is his market going down? What's your evidence? You can't have an opinion on a declining market. It's either declining or it isn't. I'm sorry, but "I THINK" + "FUTURE PROJECTION" is by definition NOT a statement on a verifiable fact. You cannot currently verify something relating to the future, and it specifically states "I THINK" as a statement to show personal opinion. Apologies, I misunderstood what you were saying. It seemed like you were suggesting his market was currently taking a downturn.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 18:19:44 GMT 1, I'm sorry, but "I THINK" + "FUTURE PROJECTION" is by definition NOT a statement on a verifiable fact. You cannot currently verify something relating to the future, and it specifically states "I THINK" as a statement to show personal opinion. Apologies, I misunderstood what you were saying. It seemed like you were suggesting his market was currently taking a downturn. All good, thanks for the dialogue. To be clear, I think it's at a top, and on offer more than it was, and I could be totally wrong about both. But it's my sense at this point. And I think outside of the financial aspect, the overall image and desirability is tanking most of all.
I'm sorry, but "I THINK" + "FUTURE PROJECTION" is by definition NOT a statement on a verifiable fact. You cannot currently verify something relating to the future, and it specifically states "I THINK" as a statement to show personal opinion. Apologies, I misunderstood what you were saying. It seemed like you were suggesting his market was currently taking a downturn. All good, thanks for the dialogue. To be clear, I think it's at a top, and on offer more than it was, and I could be totally wrong about both. But it's my sense at this point. And I think outside of the financial aspect, the overall image and desirability is tanking most of all.
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teabaggins
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Harland Miller • ACE, by teabaggins on Dec 5, 2019 18:42:40 GMT 1, I think the point is, "It was a cheap trick with the penguin cheeky lines from the very start," is an opinion and absolutely fair enough. Seems plenty of people happy to civilly discuss if his ideas are drying up. "I think this market is going down," is a statement on verifiable fact. Is his market going down? What's your evidence? You can't have an opinion on a declining market. It's either declining or it isn't. I'm sorry, but "I THINK" + "FUTURE PROJECTION" is by definition NOT a statement on a verifiable fact. You cannot currently verify something relating to the future, and it specifically states "I THINK" as a statement to show personal opinion. First, I believe I have a clearer understanding of your intended position and me calling this thread another trolling thread may have been a presumptuous reaction to a personal trigger. Second, I realize this is possibly overly semantic and I apologize but the use of the word "is" in the statement "I think this market is going down" indicates CURRENT STATE which would make it a statement on a verifiable fact. In an anonymous forum language used actually does matter. We do not know each other so the "you know what I meant" argument just doesn't work. I usually assume that what people write is what they are actually intending to say.
"In my opinion more people attended Trump's inauguration than any other presidential inauguration in history." is not a valid "opinion".
"I think that the upcoming inauguration will be the highest attended ever" before it happens or "FUTURE PROJECTION" is more a speculative statement that would quite possibly breed some interesting discussion as to why one make think this.
I think the point is, "It was a cheap trick with the penguin cheeky lines from the very start," is an opinion and absolutely fair enough. Seems plenty of people happy to civilly discuss if his ideas are drying up. "I think this market is going down," is a statement on verifiable fact. Is his market going down? What's your evidence? You can't have an opinion on a declining market. It's either declining or it isn't. I'm sorry, but "I THINK" + "FUTURE PROJECTION" is by definition NOT a statement on a verifiable fact. You cannot currently verify something relating to the future, and it specifically states "I THINK" as a statement to show personal opinion. First, I believe I have a clearer understanding of your intended position and me calling this thread another trolling thread may have been a presumptuous reaction to a personal trigger. Second, I realize this is possibly overly semantic and I apologize but the use of the word "is" in the statement "I think this market is going down" indicates CURRENT STATE which would make it a statement on a verifiable fact. In an anonymous forum language used actually does matter. We do not know each other so the "you know what I meant" argument just doesn't work. I usually assume that what people write is what they are actually intending to say. "In my opinion more people attended Trump's inauguration than any other presidential inauguration in history." is not a valid "opinion". "I think that the upcoming inauguration will be the highest attended ever" before it happens or "FUTURE PROJECTION" is more a speculative statement that would quite possibly breed some interesting discussion as to why one make think this.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Deleted on Dec 5, 2019 18:59:06 GMT 1, I'm sorry, but "I THINK" + "FUTURE PROJECTION" is by definition NOT a statement on a verifiable fact. You cannot currently verify something relating to the future, and it specifically states "I THINK" as a statement to show personal opinion. First, I believe I have a clearer understanding of your intended position and me calling this thread another trolling thread may have been a presumptuous reaction to a personal trigger. Second, I realize this is possibly overly semantic and I apologize but the use of the word "is" in the statement "I think this market is going down" indicates CURRENT STATE which would make it a statement on a verifiable fact. In an anonymous forum language used actually does matter. We do not know each other so the "you know what I meant" argument just doesn't work. I usually assume that what people write is what they are actually intending to say. "In my opinion more people attended Trump's inauguration than any other presidential inauguration in history." is not a valid "opinion". "I think that the upcoming inauguration will be the highest attended ever" before it happens or "FUTURE PROJECTION" is more a speculative statement that would quite possibly breed some interesting discussion as to why one make think this. Ok. Got it. Think we figured out where we stand. Sorry if I was unclear.
I think his market is at a top, and is going to go down in the future. Anecdotally, I think there is more negative sentiment in my "art friend network" than in recent history, relating to both investment and "quality" (for lack of a better word) of his most recent work. Personally, I find the visual appeal and creativity of his work is decreasing dramatically. I believe it will drag down prices as well as his popularity over time if we continue on this trajectory.
I'm sorry, but "I THINK" + "FUTURE PROJECTION" is by definition NOT a statement on a verifiable fact. You cannot currently verify something relating to the future, and it specifically states "I THINK" as a statement to show personal opinion. First, I believe I have a clearer understanding of your intended position and me calling this thread another trolling thread may have been a presumptuous reaction to a personal trigger. Second, I realize this is possibly overly semantic and I apologize but the use of the word "is" in the statement "I think this market is going down" indicates CURRENT STATE which would make it a statement on a verifiable fact. In an anonymous forum language used actually does matter. We do not know each other so the "you know what I meant" argument just doesn't work. I usually assume that what people write is what they are actually intending to say. "In my opinion more people attended Trump's inauguration than any other presidential inauguration in history." is not a valid "opinion". "I think that the upcoming inauguration will be the highest attended ever" before it happens or "FUTURE PROJECTION" is more a speculative statement that would quite possibly breed some interesting discussion as to why one make think this. Ok. Got it. Think we figured out where we stand. Sorry if I was unclear. I think his market is at a top, and is going to go down in the future. Anecdotally, I think there is more negative sentiment in my "art friend network" than in recent history, relating to both investment and "quality" (for lack of a better word) of his most recent work. Personally, I find the visual appeal and creativity of his work is decreasing dramatically. I believe it will drag down prices as well as his popularity over time if we continue on this trajectory.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Winter on Dec 5, 2019 19:45:59 GMT 1, Not sure why White Cube didn’t show is work at Swiss Basel or this year’s Miami Basel. You’d think they would be trying to increase his profile. He’s good but is he really blue chip yet?
Not sure why White Cube didn’t show is work at Swiss Basel or this year’s Miami Basel. You’d think they would be trying to increase his profile. He’s good but is he really blue chip yet?
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Lazarus II on Dec 5, 2019 20:03:46 GMT 1, My point is that it's an overvalued artist, that has zero range and with a change of style is sliding further and further artistically. Furthermore, it's an artist that's often discussed in this community as well as the bigger art world to a degree, which is the polar opposite of Bambi. Should I only comment on things that I like and agree with? The new Sainer show is going to be amazing, can't wait !!!!! Happy ? I mean what's the point of a forum without different opinions? I think opinions drive conversation. If you don't want to have this conversation, no problem, but I genuinely don't see what the issue is. Here is the difference.. “I don’t enjoy the taste of ginger” is an opinion that requires little further qualification. “Ginger is overvalued and ginger flavor is over” as an “opinion” requires some level of fact based intelligent qualification to be considered anything but noise. ** You are not personally the target of my triggered rant to be fair. It’s just gotten all to common here and why a lot of folk who like to have a deeper discussion are doing so elsewhere. Gingist’s get everywhere!
My point is that it's an overvalued artist, that has zero range and with a change of style is sliding further and further artistically. Furthermore, it's an artist that's often discussed in this community as well as the bigger art world to a degree, which is the polar opposite of Bambi. Should I only comment on things that I like and agree with? The new Sainer show is going to be amazing, can't wait !!!!! Happy ? I mean what's the point of a forum without different opinions? I think opinions drive conversation. If you don't want to have this conversation, no problem, but I genuinely don't see what the issue is. Here is the difference.. “I don’t enjoy the taste of ginger” is an opinion that requires little further qualification. “Ginger is overvalued and ginger flavor is over” as an “opinion” requires some level of fact based intelligent qualification to be considered anything but noise. ** You are not personally the target of my triggered rant to be fair. It’s just gotten all to common here and why a lot of folk who like to have a deeper discussion are doing so elsewhere. Gingist’s get everywhere!
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Harland Miller • ACE, by mojo on Dec 5, 2019 20:30:47 GMT 1, Here is the difference.. “I don’t enjoy the taste of ginger” is an opinion that requires little further qualification. “Ginger is overvalued and ginger flavor is over” as an “opinion” requires some level of fact based intelligent qualification to be considered anything but noise. ** You are not personally the target of my triggered rant to be fair. It’s just gotten all to common here and why a lot of folk who like to have a deeper discussion are doing so elsewhere. Gingist’s get everywhere! I like gingers & Harland Miller I neither have ginger hair or own any of his art work.
Here is the difference.. “I don’t enjoy the taste of ginger” is an opinion that requires little further qualification. “Ginger is overvalued and ginger flavor is over” as an “opinion” requires some level of fact based intelligent qualification to be considered anything but noise. ** You are not personally the target of my triggered rant to be fair. It’s just gotten all to common here and why a lot of folk who like to have a deeper discussion are doing so elsewhere. Gingist’s get everywhere! I like gingers & Harland Miller I neither have ginger hair or own any of his art work.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Lazarus II on Dec 5, 2019 21:09:42 GMT 1, Gingist’s get everywhere! I like gingers & Harland Miller I neither have ginger hair or own any of his art work. good, peace breaks out at xmas. Im scottish but surprisingly not a ginger.
Gingist’s get everywhere! I like gingers & Harland Miller I neither have ginger hair or own any of his art work. good, peace breaks out at xmas. Im scottish but surprisingly not a ginger.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by drip on Dec 5, 2019 22:00:57 GMT 1, You were definitely not wrong.
You were definitely not wrong.
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hellfo
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Harland Miller • ACE, by hellfo on Dec 5, 2019 22:07:27 GMT 1, You were definitely not wrong.
😂
You were definitely not wrong. 😂
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Deleted on Dec 6, 2019 1:01:33 GMT 1, You guys shouldn’t just be worrying about Harland. You should be worrying about everything that you own. Especially prints.
Bearish on overall market or just prints?
If it’s just prints it’s a pretty small mind opinion tbh
You guys shouldn’t just be worrying about Harland. You should be worrying about everything that you own. Especially prints. Bearish on overall market or just prints? If it’s just prints it’s a pretty small mind opinion tbh
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Harland Miller • ACE, by 19818914 on Dec 6, 2019 1:12:27 GMT 1, You guys shouldn’t just be worrying about Harland. You should be worrying about everything that you own. Especially prints. Bearish on overall market or just prints? If it’s just prints it’s a pretty small mind opinion tbh
What if I told you the answer was in my post?
You guys shouldn’t just be worrying about Harland. You should be worrying about everything that you own. Especially prints. Bearish on overall market or just prints? If it’s just prints it’s a pretty small mind opinion tbh What if I told you the answer was in my post?
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Harland Miller • ACE, by d.r. perseus on Dec 6, 2019 6:24:01 GMT 1, Bearish on overall market or just prints? If it’s just prints it’s a pretty small mind opinion tbh What if I told you the answer was in my post?
i get around that by buying useless eBay gliclee canvas’!
Bearish on overall market or just prints? If it’s just prints it’s a pretty small mind opinion tbh What if I told you the answer was in my post? i get around that by buying useless eBay gliclee canvas’!
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Harland Miller • ACE, by 19818914 on Dec 6, 2019 6:34:15 GMT 1, What if I told you the answer was in my post? i get around that by buying useless eBay gliclee canvas’!
I refuse to hang anything on my walls that isn’t painted by myself.
What if I told you the answer was in my post? i get around that by buying useless eBay gliclee canvas’! I refuse to hang anything on my walls that isn’t painted by myself.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by d.r. perseus on Dec 6, 2019 6:35:08 GMT 1, i get around that by buying useless eBay gliclee canvas’! I refuse to hang anything on my walls that isn’t painted by myself.
Occasionally like to hang canvases by other artist HF by me.r
i get around that by buying useless eBay gliclee canvas’! I refuse to hang anything on my walls that isn’t painted by myself. Occasionally like to hang canvases by other artist HF by me.r
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Harland Miller • ACE, by 19818914 on Dec 6, 2019 6:36:32 GMT 1, I refuse to hang anything on my walls that isn’t painted by myself. Occasionally like to hang canvases by other artist HF by me.r
My entire life has been hand finished.
I refuse to hang anything on my walls that isn’t painted by myself. Occasionally like to hang canvases by other artist HF by me.r My entire life has been hand finished.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by d.r. perseus on Dec 6, 2019 6:37:59 GMT 1, Occasionally like to hang canvases by other artist HF by me.r My entire life has been hand finished.
Excluding conception.
Are we Harland Miller now?
Occasionally like to hang canvases by other artist HF by me.r My entire life has been hand finished. Excluding conception. Are we Harland Miller now?
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Harland Miller • ACE, by 19818914 on Dec 6, 2019 6:48:33 GMT 1, My entire life has been hand finished. Excluding conception. Are we Harland Miller now?
My entire life has been Harland Miller.
My entire life has been hand finished. Excluding conception. Are we Harland Miller now? My entire life has been Harland Miller.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by d.r. perseus on Dec 6, 2019 6:54:35 GMT 1, Excluding conception. Are we Harland Miller now? My entire life has been Harland Miller.
The thread title is Harland Miller too
Excluding conception. Are we Harland Miller now? My entire life has been Harland Miller. The thread title is Harland Miller too
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Harland Miller • ACE, by 19818914 on Dec 6, 2019 6:58:43 GMT 1, My entire life has been Harland Miller. The thread title is Harland Miller too
Story of my life.
My entire life has been Harland Miller. The thread title is Harland Miller too Story of my life.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by bbperez1 on Dec 6, 2019 7:04:27 GMT 1, Just want to state people were swooning over various HM editions yesterday at Art Miami and a "I am the one I've been waiting for" sold for $45k on the spot.
Surely, you’re not using that outlier as a reference. The silly man with too much money at Basel spent 45k so surely I must too.
Just want to state people were swooning over various HM editions yesterday at Art Miami and a "I am the one I've been waiting for" sold for $45k on the spot. Surely, you’re not using that outlier as a reference. The silly man with too much money at Basel spent 45k so surely I must too.
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Harland Miller • ACE, by Riotcops on Dec 6, 2019 17:00:42 GMT 1, Just want to state people were swooning over various HM editions yesterday at Art Miami and a "I am the one I've been waiting for" sold for $45k on the spot. Surely, you’re not using that outlier as a reference. The silly man with too much money at Basel spent 45k so surely I must too. Never said I, nor anyone else should. Slipping or not, I simply stated what I witnessed to all those who said no one is interested in HM. Not just the purchase but people generally gathering and enjoying his work. This business is built around "the silly man with too much money", should we stop referencing Kaws $15million auction result? Or is the silly man then smart when it refers to artists we are invested in?
Just want to state people were swooning over various HM editions yesterday at Art Miami and a "I am the one I've been waiting for" sold for $45k on the spot. Surely, you’re not using that outlier as a reference. The silly man with too much money at Basel spent 45k so surely I must too. Never said I, nor anyone else should. Slipping or not, I simply stated what I witnessed to all those who said no one is interested in HM. Not just the purchase but people generally gathering and enjoying his work. This business is built around "the silly man with too much money", should we stop referencing Kaws $15million auction result? Or is the silly man then smart when it refers to artists we are invested in?
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