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No New Releases, by corblimeylimey on Feb 20, 2007 16:06:07 GMT 1, I think we should go and storm POW HQ......
O.K. I'm sorry I can't attend, can you pick me up a trolley print please.
I think we should go and storm POW HQ...... O.K. I'm sorry I can't attend, can you pick me up a trolley print please.
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frank11
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No New Releases, by frank11 on Feb 20, 2007 16:07:18 GMT 1, I think we should go and storm POW HQ...... i am with you
I think we should go and storm POW HQ...... i am with you
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ambasidor
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No New Releases, by ambasidor on Feb 20, 2007 16:07:34 GMT 1, mcnuts, who did ur aviotor, i like it... reminds me of dolks puppy love classic, what with the shocking pink and humping...
mcnuts, who did ur aviotor, i like it... reminds me of dolks puppy love classic, what with the shocking pink and humping...
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afwi
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No New Releases, by afwi on Feb 20, 2007 16:09:15 GMT 1, POW is a mail order print company not a Gallery
Yes but a mail order print company can also be called an online art gallery selling limited edition artwork, don't you think? The question was what was their goal - find new customers or keep a 'core' of... - ? It is not blamable but they want to expand their business and they clearly use the appropriate marketing way. Kaws did something like that.
As the value of every print is growing, it's not so easy to protest even if it's frustrating. Auctions are like that.
Do you prefer the art to remain confidential, just available to the few who know the place, or to break everything?
POW is a mail order print company not a Gallery
Yes but a mail order print company can also be called an online art gallery selling limited edition artwork, don't you think? The question was what was their goal - find new customers or keep a 'core' of... - ? It is not blamable but they want to expand their business and they clearly use the appropriate marketing way. Kaws did something like that.
As the value of every print is growing, it's not so easy to protest even if it's frustrating. Auctions are like that.
Do you prefer the art to remain confidential, just available to the few who know the place, or to break everything?
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bonesy
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No New Releases, by bonesy on Feb 20, 2007 16:11:35 GMT 1, The people who lose out are the ones who listen to what POW have said. Even if they were trying to stop the site from going down it doesn't justify blatant lieing to potential customers about wether prints are going to be released or not.
On todays info? They told us exactly what ended up happening.
The people who lose out are the ones who listen to what POW have said. Even if they were trying to stop the site from going down it doesn't justify blatant lieing to potential customers about wether prints are going to be released or not. On todays info? They told us exactly what ended up happening.
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afwi
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No New Releases, by afwi on Feb 20, 2007 16:13:36 GMT 1, Exactly. And it was Dead Rebels! And I missed it! And I'll probably be there next time!
Exactly. And it was Dead Rebels! And I missed it! And I'll probably be there next time!
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No New Releases, by irf2112 on Feb 20, 2007 16:15:00 GMT 1, people do get heated about prints... There's so many toys thrown out of prams right now, someones gonna fall over...
people do get heated about prints... There's so many toys thrown out of prams right now, someones gonna fall over...
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ptron
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No New Releases, by ptron on Feb 20, 2007 16:15:42 GMT 1, As to all the talk of a lottery, how would this be fairly run? Would POW track IPs to make sure you didn't get more than one ticket, no too technical. How about tracking email addresses, no then people would just sign up for 40 gmail accounts. How about credit card numbers, people have multiples of these too.
If someone can explain how to do a fair lottery, let me know. As for me, I'm just happy the cart doesn't time out.
As to all the talk of a lottery, how would this be fairly run? Would POW track IPs to make sure you didn't get more than one ticket, no too technical. How about tracking email addresses, no then people would just sign up for 40 gmail accounts. How about credit card numbers, people have multiples of these too.
If someone can explain how to do a fair lottery, let me know. As for me, I'm just happy the cart doesn't time out.
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No New Releases, by corblimeylimey on Feb 20, 2007 16:16:26 GMT 1, The people who lose out are the ones who listen to what POW have said. Even if they were trying to stop the site from going down it doesn't justify blatant lieing to potential customers about wether prints are going to be released or not. On todays info? They told us exactly what ended up happening.
No they didn't. It was too ambiguous, it could have meant LA prints today (as they're not new as they're 3 months old) and ghetto prints soon (tomorrow or next week)
I'd rather they didn't say anything than say something that doesn't mean anything.
The people who lose out are the ones who listen to what POW have said. Even if they were trying to stop the site from going down it doesn't justify blatant lieing to potential customers about wether prints are going to be released or not. On todays info? They told us exactly what ended up happening. No they didn't. It was too ambiguous, it could have meant LA prints today (as they're not new as they're 3 months old) and ghetto prints soon (tomorrow or next week) I'd rather they didn't say anything than say something that doesn't mean anything.
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No New Releases, by irf2112 on Feb 20, 2007 16:17:53 GMT 1, Sorry Folks, but we will not be releasing anything new today. We will be putting some ghetto exclusives on the site very soon.
We are driving our artists' crazy for new material, but you know what creative types are like - never happy with their work...
Regards Picturesonwalls
LINE 2 says it all...
Sorry Folks, but we will not be releasing anything new today. We will be putting some ghetto exclusives on the site very soon.
We are driving our artists' crazy for new material, but you know what creative types are like - never happy with their work...
Regards Picturesonwalls
LINE 2 says it all...
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stuey09
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No New Releases, by stuey09 on Feb 20, 2007 16:18:43 GMT 1, I got a warrior bird - not that keen on it, but in the excitement i thought I better should.....
I've got some odd socks for sale if you'd like to buy them. I'm guessing that this would appeal to your logic.
I got a warrior bird - not that keen on it, but in the excitement i thought I better should..... I've got some odd socks for sale if you'd like to buy them. I'm guessing that this would appeal to your logic.
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bldouble
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No New Releases, by bldouble on Feb 20, 2007 16:19:45 GMT 1, Yeah, fair enough. It does make sense just not at 10 in the morning when you've been up all night waiting for it.
Yeah, fair enough. It does make sense just not at 10 in the morning when you've been up all night waiting for it.
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No New Releases, by policeaware on Feb 20, 2007 16:20:06 GMT 1, just because they dont give previews to the people who have purchased in the past doesn't mean they are fed up selling to the people that have bought lots of prints and want to try and sell to different people - which is what you are saying! I won't say they are 'fed-up' with the core.. Those being your words. But in order to expand their market segment they have to a) Sell to new customers b) Restrict sales (1 print per person) - which is a good thing. Keeps the ebay scum away. Back to point a) - point b) helps. But in order to gain new customers they need to find new ways to release materials. Because at the moment POW is a real 'cash cow'. If the same old bunch consume all prints - real growth will be stunted. Current customers will always go back to POW for new prints. As for 'new customers' these are the life-blood of ALL businesses. Afterall there a hell of a lot of 'unsold' prints on POW... Wonder who will be buying those... Will probably be the new costomers.
If there aren't enough prints to go round the existing customers why do they need new customers?
just because they dont give previews to the people who have purchased in the past doesn't mean they are fed up selling to the people that have bought lots of prints and want to try and sell to different people - which is what you are saying! I won't say they are 'fed-up' with the core.. Those being your words. But in order to expand their market segment they have to a) Sell to new customers b) Restrict sales (1 print per person) - which is a good thing. Keeps the ebay scum away. Back to point a) - point b) helps. But in order to gain new customers they need to find new ways to release materials. Because at the moment POW is a real 'cash cow'. If the same old bunch consume all prints - real growth will be stunted. Current customers will always go back to POW for new prints. As for 'new customers' these are the life-blood of ALL businesses. Afterall there a hell of a lot of 'unsold' prints on POW... Wonder who will be buying those... Will probably be the new costomers. If there aren't enough prints to go round the existing customers why do they need new customers?
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No New Releases, by mcnuts on Feb 20, 2007 16:20:59 GMT 1, mcnuts, who did ur aviotor, i like it... reminds me of dolks puppy love classic, what with the shocking pink and humping...
cheers Silky did it for me:)
mcnuts, who did ur aviotor, i like it... reminds me of dolks puppy love classic, what with the shocking pink and humping... cheers Silky did it for me:)
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afwi
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No New Releases, by afwi on Feb 20, 2007 16:21:29 GMT 1, Well, well, well. Looks like I should work a little. Nice talk today. See ya all soon!
Well, well, well. Looks like I should work a little. Nice talk today. See ya all soon!
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No New Releases, by corblimeylimey on Feb 20, 2007 16:23:48 GMT 1, It's like AROUND the 20th Feb
VERY SOON (how long is a piece of string?) can any one tell me exactly how long soon is and how long very soon is and what is new and what isn't new? and how close around a date is it to the date?
It's a load of nonsense.
It's like AROUND the 20th Feb
VERY SOON (how long is a piece of string?) can any one tell me exactly how long soon is and how long very soon is and what is new and what isn't new? and how close around a date is it to the date?
It's a load of nonsense.
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stylus
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No New Releases, by stylus on Feb 20, 2007 16:29:14 GMT 1, totally agree.
As to all the talk of a lottery, how would this be fairly run? Would POW track IPs to make sure you didn't get more than one ticket, no too technical. How about tracking email addresses, no then people would just sign up for 40 gmail accounts. How about credit card numbers, people have multiples of these too. If someone can explain how to do a fair lottery, let me know. As for me, I'm just happy the cart doesn't time out.
totally agree. As to all the talk of a lottery, how would this be fairly run? Would POW track IPs to make sure you didn't get more than one ticket, no too technical. How about tracking email addresses, no then people would just sign up for 40 gmail accounts. How about credit card numbers, people have multiples of these too. If someone can explain how to do a fair lottery, let me know. As for me, I'm just happy the cart doesn't time out.
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No New Releases, by irf2112 on Feb 20, 2007 16:30:28 GMT 1, I won't say they are 'fed-up' with the core.. Those being your words. But in order to expand their market segment they have to a) Sell to new customers b) Restrict sales (1 print per person) - which is a good thing. Keeps the ebay scum away. Back to point a) - point b) helps. But in order to gain new customers they need to find new ways to release materials. Because at the moment POW is a real 'cash cow'. If the same old bunch consume all prints - real growth will be stunted. Current customers will always go back to POW for new prints. As for 'new customers' these are the life-blood of ALL businesses. Afterall there a hell of a lot of 'unsold' prints on POW... Wonder who will be buying those... Will probably be the new costomers. If there aren't enough prints to go round the existing customers why do they need new customers?
There are still prints unsold on POW... Not just talking about the 'popular' stuff. After who's gonna buy the Zev's stuff...
I won't say they are 'fed-up' with the core.. Those being your words. But in order to expand their market segment they have to a) Sell to new customers b) Restrict sales (1 print per person) - which is a good thing. Keeps the ebay scum away. Back to point a) - point b) helps. But in order to gain new customers they need to find new ways to release materials. Because at the moment POW is a real 'cash cow'. If the same old bunch consume all prints - real growth will be stunted. Current customers will always go back to POW for new prints. As for 'new customers' these are the life-blood of ALL businesses. Afterall there a hell of a lot of 'unsold' prints on POW... Wonder who will be buying those... Will probably be the new costomers. If there aren't enough prints to go round the existing customers why do they need new customers? There are still prints unsold on POW... Not just talking about the 'popular' stuff. After who's gonna buy the Zev's stuff...
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No New Releases, by monochrome on Feb 20, 2007 16:32:37 GMT 1, some people just don't deserve a print for the way they carry on.
just buy one on ebay it you really want one - after all, they'll be loads listed of Trollies et al within moments - and the funny thing is, it'll be by people on here. it would be funny if i actually cared.
some people just don't deserve a print for the way they carry on.
just buy one on ebay it you really want one - after all, they'll be loads listed of Trollies et al within moments - and the funny thing is, it'll be by people on here. it would be funny if i actually cared.
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No New Releases, by johnas on Feb 20, 2007 16:35:54 GMT 1, totally agree. As to all the talk of a lottery, how would this be fairly run? Would POW track IPs to make sure you didn't get more than one ticket, no too technical. How about tracking email addresses, no then people would just sign up for 40 gmail accounts. How about credit card numbers, people have multiples of these too. If someone can explain how to do a fair lottery, let me know. As for me, I'm just happy the cart doesn't time out.
defintion of lottery:
a process or thing whose success or outcome is governed by chance
you saw it today. You don't need tickets and everyone's invited to take part
"tell me punk, do you feel lucky??" ;D
totally agree. As to all the talk of a lottery, how would this be fairly run? Would POW track IPs to make sure you didn't get more than one ticket, no too technical. How about tracking email addresses, no then people would just sign up for 40 gmail accounts. How about credit card numbers, people have multiples of these too. If someone can explain how to do a fair lottery, let me know. As for me, I'm just happy the cart doesn't time out. defintion of lottery: a process or thing whose success or outcome is governed by chanceyou saw it today. You don't need tickets and everyone's invited to take part "tell me punk, do you feel lucky??" ;D
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No New Releases, by monochrome on Feb 20, 2007 16:36:36 GMT 1, alos, POW if you're reading. prices for the remaining prints should be:
ยฃ2000 for signed ยฃ500 for unsigned
all money made (over the usually costs donated to a charity of your choice)
will i get more minus points again? children!
alos, POW if you're reading. prices for the remaining prints should be:
ยฃ2000 for signed ยฃ500 for unsigned
all money made (over the usually costs donated to a charity of your choice)
will i get more minus points again? children!
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No New Releases, by geoffreyrickly on Feb 20, 2007 16:43:58 GMT 1, It's not really nice to willfully mislead people. POW are so incredibly fortunate to have people devoted to their work and this is the way they reward it. People stayed up all night to try and get a chance to buy one of the prints. Fair enough, they aren't obligated to hold anyone's hand or give special treatment... but to be intentionally misleading is another story. I'm not whining, I'm just disappointed in the company.
It's not really nice to willfully mislead people. POW are so incredibly fortunate to have people devoted to their work and this is the way they reward it. People stayed up all night to try and get a chance to buy one of the prints. Fair enough, they aren't obligated to hold anyone's hand or give special treatment... but to be intentionally misleading is another story. I'm not whining, I'm just disappointed in the company.
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No New Releases, by irf2112 on Feb 20, 2007 16:44:24 GMT 1, alos, POW if you're reading. prices for the remaining prints should be: ยฃ2000 for signed ยฃ500 for unsigned all money made (over the usually costs donated to a charity of your choice) will i get more minus points again? children!
Thing is street art i.e. Banksy art is art for the people. By raising prices in such a way your creating a 'barrier to entry' for those who can't afford such premiums. Sure there will be a few of us who could manage the cost - but I feel this would take Banksy out of arms length for the younger fans...
alos, POW if you're reading. prices for the remaining prints should be: ยฃ2000 for signed ยฃ500 for unsigned all money made (over the usually costs donated to a charity of your choice) will i get more minus points again? children! Thing is street art i.e. Banksy art is art for the people. By raising prices in such a way your creating a 'barrier to entry' for those who can't afford such premiums. Sure there will be a few of us who could manage the cost - but I feel this would take Banksy out of arms length for the younger fans...
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Run Pig Run
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No New Releases, by Run Pig Run on Feb 20, 2007 16:47:06 GMT 1, As to all the talk of a lottery, how would this be fairly run? Would POW track IPs to make sure you didn't get more than one ticket, no too technical. How about tracking email addresses, no then people would just sign up for 40 gmail accounts. How about credit card numbers, people have multiples of these too. If someone can explain how to do a fair lottery, let me know. As for me, I'm just happy the cart doesn't time out.
It won't be fairly run, I have 6 people from work, my girlfriend, her parents, my parents, my sisters, my brother, my step brother and my uncle all on standby to sign up for the Banksy print lottery (if it ever happens)
As to all the talk of a lottery, how would this be fairly run? Would POW track IPs to make sure you didn't get more than one ticket, no too technical. How about tracking email addresses, no then people would just sign up for 40 gmail accounts. How about credit card numbers, people have multiples of these too. If someone can explain how to do a fair lottery, let me know. As for me, I'm just happy the cart doesn't time out. It won't be fairly run, I have 6 people from work, my girlfriend, her parents, my parents, my sisters, my brother, my step brother and my uncle all on standby to sign up for the Banksy print lottery (if it ever happens)
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No New Releases, by Daniel Silk on Feb 20, 2007 16:47:55 GMT 1, alos, POW if you're reading. prices for the remaining prints should be: ยฃ2000 for signed ยฃ500 for unsigned all money made (over the usually costs donated to a charity of your choice)
If thats what they wanted to do that would be fine wid me ;D If they gave the extra to charity I cant see anyone could complain well saying that Im sure some would
alos, POW if you're reading. prices for the remaining prints should be: ยฃ2000 for signed ยฃ500 for unsigned all money made (over the usually costs donated to a charity of your choice) If thats what they wanted to do that would be fine wid me ;D If they gave the extra to charity I cant see anyone could complain well saying that Im sure some would
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No New Releases, by irf2112 on Feb 20, 2007 16:50:28 GMT 1, It's like AROUND the 20th Feb VERY SOON (how long is a piece of string?) can any one tell me exactly how long soon is and how long very soon is and what is new and what isn't new? and how close around a date is it to the date? It's a load of nonsense.
Just PM'd you
It's like AROUND the 20th Feb VERY SOON (how long is a piece of string?) can any one tell me exactly how long soon is and how long very soon is and what is new and what isn't new? and how close around a date is it to the date? It's a load of nonsense. Just PM'd you
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No New Releases, by manchestermike on Feb 20, 2007 16:51:55 GMT 1, alos, POW if you're reading. prices for the remaining prints should be: ยฃ2000 for signed ยฃ500 for unsigned all money made (over the usually costs donated to a charity of your choice) If thats what they wanted to do that would be fine wid me ;D If they gave the extra to charity I cant see anyone could complain well saying that Im sure some would
I disagree;
What about those people who can't afford the ยฃ500 for an unsigned Banksy, and those who have saved the ยฃ500 for a signed print only to be told the price is four times that.
POW say they're committed to providing affordable art, so surely (for what must be Banksy's last release through them) they will continue to do so.
alos, POW if you're reading. prices for the remaining prints should be: ยฃ2000 for signed ยฃ500 for unsigned all money made (over the usually costs donated to a charity of your choice) If thats what they wanted to do that would be fine wid me ;D If they gave the extra to charity I cant see anyone could complain well saying that Im sure some would I disagree; What about those people who can't afford the ยฃ500 for an unsigned Banksy, and those who have saved the ยฃ500 for a signed print only to be told the price is four times that. POW say they're committed to providing affordable art, so surely (for what must be Banksy's last release through them) they will continue to do so.
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No New Releases, by monochrome on Feb 20, 2007 16:54:00 GMT 1, forget the street/affordable art - it's tiresome now. banksy is multi millionaire, so is Laz, and so are the folk who work at POW... ok, maybe not POW
but seriously they don't care how they sell stuff, why should they?
slap the price up, do some good with the money and if people complain fuck them.
forget the street/affordable art - it's tiresome now. banksy is multi millionaire, so is Laz, and so are the folk who work at POW... ok, maybe not POW
but seriously they don't care how they sell stuff, why should they?
slap the price up, do some good with the money and if people complain fuck them.
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No New Releases, by irf2112 on Feb 20, 2007 16:54:51 GMT 1, forget the street/affordable art - it's tiresome now. banksy is multi millionaire, so is Laz, and so are the folk who work at POW... ok, maybe not POW but seriously they don't care how they sell stuff, why should they? slap the price up, do some good with the money and if people complain f**k them.
PMT?
forget the street/affordable art - it's tiresome now. banksy is multi millionaire, so is Laz, and so are the folk who work at POW... ok, maybe not POW but seriously they don't care how they sell stuff, why should they? slap the price up, do some good with the money and if people complain f**k them. PMT?
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RetroCanvas
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No New Releases, by RetroCanvas on Feb 20, 2007 16:54:55 GMT 1, Why would it be Banksy's last release through them???
Retro
If thats what they wanted to do that would be fine wid me ;D If they gave the extra to charity I cant see anyone could complain well saying that Im sure some would I disagree; What about those people who can't afford the ยฃ500 for an unsigned Banksy, and those who have saved the ยฃ500 for a signed print only to be told the price is four times that. POW say they're committed to providing affordable art, so surely (for what must be Banksy's last release through them) they will continue to do so.
Why would it be Banksy's last release through them??? Retro If thats what they wanted to do that would be fine wid me ;D If they gave the extra to charity I cant see anyone could complain well saying that Im sure some would I disagree; What about those people who can't afford the ยฃ500 for an unsigned Banksy, and those who have saved the ยฃ500 for a signed print only to be told the price is four times that. POW say they're committed to providing affordable art, so surely (for what must be Banksy's last release through them) they will continue to do so.
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