Run Pig Run
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No New Releases, by Run Pig Run on Feb 20, 2007 19:11:27 GMT 1, hype, hype.
hype, hype.
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motor
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No New Releases, by motor on Feb 20, 2007 20:03:18 GMT 1, They said ' from around 20th february'. Correct me if I am wrong...
They said ' from around 20th february'. Correct me if I am wrong...
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stylus
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No New Releases, by stylus on Feb 20, 2007 20:24:17 GMT 1, Maybe they have a lot of sofas. And check one at a time.
And another thing.......... Why make us wait until today for couple of spare prints that they found behind the sofa ? Why make a big deal of it when they could have sold these when they did the Micallef's two weeks ago ?
Maybe they have a lot of sofas. And check one at a time. And another thing.......... Why make us wait until today for couple of spare prints that they found behind the sofa ? Why make a big deal of it when they could have sold these when they did the Micallef's two weeks ago ?
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RetroCanvas
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No New Releases, by RetroCanvas on Feb 20, 2007 21:35:13 GMT 1, Thats a good shout rklimek, but, I think most of the people that want a particular Banksy print could only afford it by selling one that they got from POW.
I agree with you about the smart move though but I think that they pretty much know that whatever they do will make 'em a packet.
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Everyone stop complaining - POW did the smart business move. They released non-Banksy prints, and they still sold out in a matter of minutes. Smart if you ask me. It is a total crap shoot getting prints anymore - I'd save up your money and mentally prepare yourself for buying the one print you really want on Ebay.
Thats a good shout rklimek, but, I think most of the people that want a particular Banksy print could only afford it by selling one that they got from POW. I agree with you about the smart move though but I think that they pretty much know that whatever they do will make 'em a packet. retro Everyone stop complaining - POW did the smart business move. They released non-Banksy prints, and they still sold out in a matter of minutes. Smart if you ask me. It is a total crap shoot getting prints anymore - I'd save up your money and mentally prepare yourself for buying the one print you really want on Ebay.
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No New Releases, by tomhills1 on Feb 20, 2007 21:59:59 GMT 1, i don't think anyone begrudges POW making a load of money on the back of banksy via lesser artists selling out in the blink of an eye. especially as it must be a right kick in the bollocks watchin a print your company made, packed and shipped out a.s.a.p to a satisfied customer, then re-appears days later at double (unsigned) or 3 or 4x (signed) on ebay. i think what the crux of this hostility is, is the lack of information. if you've ever had a dissapointment like a flight cancelled or a train delayed, if someone lets you know what's going on you're a lot more understanding. you may not like it but you'll still respect them for being straight with you. the issue here i believe is that a large number of people are beginning to lose respect a little for POW due to their ambiguity. the longer this saga runs, the more faith is going to be lost. it may heighten anticipation and short-term sales but it is a boom and bust scenario that is un-sustainable.
although as kurt cobain said "it's better to burn out than fade away", the same may well ring true for POW in the long run.
i don't think anyone begrudges POW making a load of money on the back of banksy via lesser artists selling out in the blink of an eye. especially as it must be a right kick in the bollocks watchin a print your company made, packed and shipped out a.s.a.p to a satisfied customer, then re-appears days later at double (unsigned) or 3 or 4x (signed) on ebay. i think what the crux of this hostility is, is the lack of information. if you've ever had a dissapointment like a flight cancelled or a train delayed, if someone lets you know what's going on you're a lot more understanding. you may not like it but you'll still respect them for being straight with you. the issue here i believe is that a large number of people are beginning to lose respect a little for POW due to their ambiguity. the longer this saga runs, the more faith is going to be lost. it may heighten anticipation and short-term sales but it is a boom and bust scenario that is un-sustainable.
although as kurt cobain said "it's better to burn out than fade away", the same may well ring true for POW in the long run.
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CR
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No New Releases, by CR on Feb 20, 2007 22:04:44 GMT 1, i don't think anyone begrudges POW making a load of money on the back of banksy via lesser artists selling out in the blink of an eye. especially as it must be a right kick in the bollocks watchin a print your company made, packed and shipped out a.s.a.p to a satisfied customer, then re-appears days later at double (unsigned) or 3 or 4x (signed) on ebay. i think what the crux of this hostility is, is the lack of information. if you've ever had a dissapointment like a flight cancelled or a train delayed, if someone lets you know what's going on you're a lot more understanding. you may not like it but you'll still respect them for being straight with you. the issue here i believe is that a large number of people are beginning to lose respect a little for POW due to their ambiguity. the longer this saga runs, the more faith is going to be lost. it may heighten anticipation and short-term sales but it is a boom and bust scenario that is un-sustainable. although as kurt cobain said "it's better to burn out than fade away", the same may well ring true for POW in the long run.
well said, that is exactly my sentiments.
I just hope POW are taking note of this and make an effort to inform us in the future!
i don't think anyone begrudges POW making a load of money on the back of banksy via lesser artists selling out in the blink of an eye. especially as it must be a right kick in the bollocks watchin a print your company made, packed and shipped out a.s.a.p to a satisfied customer, then re-appears days later at double (unsigned) or 3 or 4x (signed) on ebay. i think what the crux of this hostility is, is the lack of information. if you've ever had a dissapointment like a flight cancelled or a train delayed, if someone lets you know what's going on you're a lot more understanding. you may not like it but you'll still respect them for being straight with you. the issue here i believe is that a large number of people are beginning to lose respect a little for POW due to their ambiguity. the longer this saga runs, the more faith is going to be lost. it may heighten anticipation and short-term sales but it is a boom and bust scenario that is un-sustainable. although as kurt cobain said "it's better to burn out than fade away", the same may well ring true for POW in the long run. well said, that is exactly my sentiments. I just hope POW are taking note of this and make an effort to inform us in the future!
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goffy
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No New Releases, by goffy on Feb 20, 2007 23:09:43 GMT 1, I also agree with lesbianwednesdays except it was Neil Young who first said 'It is better to burn out than fade away' Kurt just hated himself and wanted to die! A bit like a few of the people on here today, (joke) And what about that monochrome, he's a funny little fella isn't he.
I also agree with lesbianwednesdays except it was Neil Young who first said 'It is better to burn out than fade away' Kurt just hated himself and wanted to die! A bit like a few of the people on here today, (joke) And what about that monochrome, he's a funny little fella isn't he.
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noodle
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No New Releases, by noodle on Feb 20, 2007 23:21:49 GMT 1, i don't think anyone begrudges POW making a load of money on the back of banksy via lesser artists selling out in the blink of an eye. especially as it must be a right kick in the bollocks watchin a print your company made, packed and shipped out a.s.a.p to a satisfied customer, then re-appears days later at double (unsigned) or 3 or 4x (signed) on ebay. i think what the crux of this hostility is, is the lack of information. if you've ever had a dissapointment like a flight cancelled or a train delayed, if someone lets you know what's going on you're a lot more understanding. you may not like it but you'll still respect them for being straight with you. the issue here i believe is that a large number of people are beginning to lose respect a little for POW due to their ambiguity. the longer this saga runs, the more faith is going to be lost. it may heighten anticipation and short-term sales but it is a boom and bust scenario that is un-sustainable. although as kurt cobain said "it's better to burn out than fade away", the same may well ring true for POW in the long run.
I totally understand what you are trying to say, but the fact of the matter is they never said a Banksy print would be released today.
Yes they did say before Grannies that all the LA prints would be released before Xmas, but that was before server meltdown with the release of Grannies and then Applause .
Put yourself in their place, at the end of the day its a business, selling lots of products not just one.
Comparing it to a delayed flight or train delayed. We've not paid money up front for a service and then not received it.
Yes disappointed that due to the hype that WE have created and will continue to do so.
Personally I think we are now living the PoW lottery not just for Banksy prints!
But am I going to lose faith with PoW, no, I'll take my chance like everyone else.
i don't think anyone begrudges POW making a load of money on the back of banksy via lesser artists selling out in the blink of an eye. especially as it must be a right kick in the bollocks watchin a print your company made, packed and shipped out a.s.a.p to a satisfied customer, then re-appears days later at double (unsigned) or 3 or 4x (signed) on ebay. i think what the crux of this hostility is, is the lack of information. if you've ever had a dissapointment like a flight cancelled or a train delayed, if someone lets you know what's going on you're a lot more understanding. you may not like it but you'll still respect them for being straight with you. the issue here i believe is that a large number of people are beginning to lose respect a little for POW due to their ambiguity. the longer this saga runs, the more faith is going to be lost. it may heighten anticipation and short-term sales but it is a boom and bust scenario that is un-sustainable. although as kurt cobain said "it's better to burn out than fade away", the same may well ring true for POW in the long run. I totally understand what you are trying to say, but the fact of the matter is they never said a Banksy print would be released today. Yes they did say before Grannies that all the LA prints would be released before Xmas, but that was before server meltdown with the release of Grannies and then Applause . Put yourself in their place, at the end of the day its a business, selling lots of products not just one. Comparing it to a delayed flight or train delayed. We've not paid money up front for a service and then not received it. Yes disappointed that due to the hype that WE have created and will continue to do so. Personally I think we are now living the PoW lottery not just for Banksy prints! But am I going to lose faith with PoW, no, I'll take my chance like everyone else.
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ambasidor
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No New Releases, by ambasidor on Feb 20, 2007 23:22:11 GMT 1, Its so hard to get decent prints from POW now people are buying prints they know will sell out in minutes without thinking because they know if they decide they dont like it they can flog it on ebay and maybe fund buying something they actually do want.
Its so hard to get decent prints from POW now people are buying prints they know will sell out in minutes without thinking because they know if they decide they dont like it they can flog it on ebay and maybe fund buying something they actually do want.
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chippyminton
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No New Releases, by chippyminton on Feb 20, 2007 23:45:21 GMT 1, edited because I'm a dozy fecker. Its been a long day.
edited because I'm a dozy fecker. Its been a long day.
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philhecht
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No New Releases, by philhecht on Feb 20, 2007 23:47:09 GMT 1, I am new to this whole art business and my first two prints purchased were Dolk "Che" and Faile "Captivating".
These were two prints that I really liked and they are still not sold out. Faile is unsigned but the point is, whether signed or not, I thought it was a really good looking print and that is the sole reason I bought it - because it will look good on my wall. Not because it will look good in a tube and I can make a swift buck.
Everyone has different reasons for purchasing but my main one is that I will enjoy looking at it on the wall. I am sure this is the majority of people on this forum's reason too. However, if the opportunity to make some cash is there, I wont lie and say I am not tempted.
However, if people want to purchase these prints and put them on ebay to make a quick buck I don't begrudge them that. They are essentially commodity trading. They have found a market and have bought goods at a decent price and are selling them for as much as they can get. There is no moral wrong there in my book. It is not as if they are "vulture funds" for example (i.e. companies set up to purchase third world debt on the cheap so that they can then claim the full amount plus interest from the third world country, hence crippling them further and fuelling corruption) which is clearly exploitation and morally wrong. Art consumers have a choice to buy on ebay or not. And if the true art lovers are too late to get a print they love because of such people then that is annoying but that is how markets work. You need to be quick.
We are all in this market and if you snooze, you lose.
Anyway, that's all from me - apologies for the rant and bring on Banksy!
I am new to this whole art business and my first two prints purchased were Dolk "Che" and Faile "Captivating".
These were two prints that I really liked and they are still not sold out. Faile is unsigned but the point is, whether signed or not, I thought it was a really good looking print and that is the sole reason I bought it - because it will look good on my wall. Not because it will look good in a tube and I can make a swift buck.
Everyone has different reasons for purchasing but my main one is that I will enjoy looking at it on the wall. I am sure this is the majority of people on this forum's reason too. However, if the opportunity to make some cash is there, I wont lie and say I am not tempted.
However, if people want to purchase these prints and put them on ebay to make a quick buck I don't begrudge them that. They are essentially commodity trading. They have found a market and have bought goods at a decent price and are selling them for as much as they can get. There is no moral wrong there in my book. It is not as if they are "vulture funds" for example (i.e. companies set up to purchase third world debt on the cheap so that they can then claim the full amount plus interest from the third world country, hence crippling them further and fuelling corruption) which is clearly exploitation and morally wrong. Art consumers have a choice to buy on ebay or not. And if the true art lovers are too late to get a print they love because of such people then that is annoying but that is how markets work. You need to be quick.
We are all in this market and if you snooze, you lose.
Anyway, that's all from me - apologies for the rant and bring on Banksy!
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stuey09
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No New Releases, by stuey09 on Feb 21, 2007 0:20:48 GMT 1, I am new to this whole art business and my first two prints purchased were Dolk "Che" and Faile "Captivating". These were two prints that I really liked and they are still not sold out. Faile is unsigned but the point is, whether signed or not, I thought it was a really good looking print and that is the sole reason I bought it - because it will look good on my wall. Not because it will look good in a tube and I can make a swift buck. Everyone has different reasons for purchasing but my main one is that I will enjoy looking at it on the wall. I am sure this is the majority of people on this forum's reason too. However, if the opportunity to make some cash is there, I wont lie and say I am not tempted. However, if people want to purchase these prints and put them on ebay to make a quick buck I don't begrudge them that. They are essentially commodity trading. They have found a market and have bought goods at a decent price and are selling them for as much as they can get. There is no moral wrong there in my book. It is not as if they are "vulture funds" for example (i.e. companies set up to purchase third world debt on the cheap so that they can then claim the full amount plus interest from the third world country, hence crippling them further and fuelling corruption) which is clearly exploitation and morally wrong. Art consumers have a choice to buy on ebay or not. And if the true art lovers are too late to get a print they love because of such people then that is annoying but that is how markets work. You need to be quick. We are all in this market and if you snooze, you lose. Anyway, that's all from me - apologies for the rant and bring on Banksy!
I like the cut of ya jib. So a respct from me.
I am new to this whole art business and my first two prints purchased were Dolk "Che" and Faile "Captivating". These were two prints that I really liked and they are still not sold out. Faile is unsigned but the point is, whether signed or not, I thought it was a really good looking print and that is the sole reason I bought it - because it will look good on my wall. Not because it will look good in a tube and I can make a swift buck. Everyone has different reasons for purchasing but my main one is that I will enjoy looking at it on the wall. I am sure this is the majority of people on this forum's reason too. However, if the opportunity to make some cash is there, I wont lie and say I am not tempted. However, if people want to purchase these prints and put them on ebay to make a quick buck I don't begrudge them that. They are essentially commodity trading. They have found a market and have bought goods at a decent price and are selling them for as much as they can get. There is no moral wrong there in my book. It is not as if they are "vulture funds" for example (i.e. companies set up to purchase third world debt on the cheap so that they can then claim the full amount plus interest from the third world country, hence crippling them further and fuelling corruption) which is clearly exploitation and morally wrong. Art consumers have a choice to buy on ebay or not. And if the true art lovers are too late to get a print they love because of such people then that is annoying but that is how markets work. You need to be quick. We are all in this market and if you snooze, you lose. Anyway, that's all from me - apologies for the rant and bring on Banksy! I like the cut of ya jib. So a respct from me.
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No New Releases, by sausageboonwee on Feb 21, 2007 0:51:48 GMT 1, It's a level playing field after all. While so many people have been sitting there clicking refresh I have been off buying lots of lovely art that I love. There is amazing stuff out there at affordable prices. I think most people like to have work on their walls that they both like and that they know is increasing in value. Fashions change and in a few years you may not want the Grin Reaper overlooking your dining table. You can sell it make some money and buy a picture of people having dinner on a beach by Jack Vettriano.
It's a level playing field after all. While so many people have been sitting there clicking refresh I have been off buying lots of lovely art that I love. There is amazing stuff out there at affordable prices. I think most people like to have work on their walls that they both like and that they know is increasing in value. Fashions change and in a few years you may not want the Grin Reaper overlooking your dining table. You can sell it make some money and buy a picture of people having dinner on a beach by Jack Vettriano.
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RetroCanvas
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No New Releases, by RetroCanvas on Feb 21, 2007 1:02:21 GMT 1, Nice,
I am with you, I bought my first banksy when many of them were still for sale. It was a gangsta rat and although I bought a signed one for only ยฃ150 through POW, that was a lot of money for a print in my eyes. I only really bought it because it was the one I thought that had the most 'street' appeal and that Banksy came from Bristol (near where I live).
Many people want to own a Banksy print for other reasons than the artwork. Yes yes, we all know that don't we.. boring..
When you receive your trollies, sale ends etc (if your lucky enough to get one) what will you think when you open the tube?
WOW! this really does look great.. or.. WOW! this print is worth ยฃ2k and its a 'Banksy'.
my rant over too and I now realise that whatever I or anyone else for that matter says, we'll never impact the buy to sell what so ever. as philhecht said, its a great little earner that nobody would turn down. I am now boring myself (sorry dudes)
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I am new to this whole art business and my first two prints purchased were Dolk "Che" and Faile "Captivating". These were two prints that I really liked and they are still not sold out. Faile is unsigned but the point is, whether signed or not, I thought it was a really good looking print and that is the sole reason I bought it - because it will look good on my wall. Not because it will look good in a tube and I can make a swift buck. Everyone has different reasons for purchasing but my main one is that I will enjoy looking at it on the wall. I am sure this is the majority of people on this forum's reason too. However, if the opportunity to make some cash is there, I wont lie and say I am not tempted. However, if people want to purchase these prints and put them on ebay to make a quick buck I don't begrudge them that. They are essentially commodity trading. They have found a market and have bought goods at a decent price and are selling them for as much as they can get. There is no moral wrong there in my book. It is not as if they are "vulture funds" for example (i.e. companies set up to purchase third world debt on the cheap so that they can then claim the full amount plus interest from the third world country, hence crippling them further and fuelling corruption) which is clearly exploitation and morally wrong. Art consumers have a choice to buy on ebay or not. And if the true art lovers are too late to get a print they love because of such people then that is annoying but that is how markets work. You need to be quick. We are all in this market and if you snooze, you lose. Anyway, that's all from me - apologies for the rant and bring on Banksy!
Nice, I am with you, I bought my first banksy when many of them were still for sale. It was a gangsta rat and although I bought a signed one for only ยฃ150 through POW, that was a lot of money for a print in my eyes. I only really bought it because it was the one I thought that had the most 'street' appeal and that Banksy came from Bristol (near where I live). Many people want to own a Banksy print for other reasons than the artwork. Yes yes, we all know that don't we.. boring.. When you receive your trollies, sale ends etc (if your lucky enough to get one) what will you think when you open the tube? WOW! this really does look great.. or.. WOW! this print is worth ยฃ2k and its a 'Banksy'. my rant over too and I now realise that whatever I or anyone else for that matter says, we'll never impact the buy to sell what so ever. as philhecht said, its a great little earner that nobody would turn down. I am now boring myself (sorry dudes) retro I am new to this whole art business and my first two prints purchased were Dolk "Che" and Faile "Captivating". These were two prints that I really liked and they are still not sold out. Faile is unsigned but the point is, whether signed or not, I thought it was a really good looking print and that is the sole reason I bought it - because it will look good on my wall. Not because it will look good in a tube and I can make a swift buck. Everyone has different reasons for purchasing but my main one is that I will enjoy looking at it on the wall. I am sure this is the majority of people on this forum's reason too. However, if the opportunity to make some cash is there, I wont lie and say I am not tempted. However, if people want to purchase these prints and put them on ebay to make a quick buck I don't begrudge them that. They are essentially commodity trading. They have found a market and have bought goods at a decent price and are selling them for as much as they can get. There is no moral wrong there in my book. It is not as if they are "vulture funds" for example (i.e. companies set up to purchase third world debt on the cheap so that they can then claim the full amount plus interest from the third world country, hence crippling them further and fuelling corruption) which is clearly exploitation and morally wrong. Art consumers have a choice to buy on ebay or not. And if the true art lovers are too late to get a print they love because of such people then that is annoying but that is how markets work. You need to be quick. We are all in this market and if you snooze, you lose. Anyway, that's all from me - apologies for the rant and bring on Banksy!
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Cocteau 101
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No New Releases, by Cocteau 101 on Feb 21, 2007 1:11:13 GMT 1, I can't be arsed with this anymore. It's been a depressing day reading these posts, seeing people buy stuff they admit not to liking, trying to get some concrete information and so on and so on. It's a dog eat dog world and where there are a lot of dogs there's normally a lot of shit. I'm knackered and I'm going to bed.
I can't be arsed with this anymore. It's been a depressing day reading these posts, seeing people buy stuff they admit not to liking, trying to get some concrete information and so on and so on. It's a dog eat dog world and where there are a lot of dogs there's normally a lot of shit. I'm knackered and I'm going to bed.
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notitle
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No New Releases, by notitle on Feb 21, 2007 2:35:35 GMT 1, i know there are a wide variety of tastes amongst the board members here, but it seems like a big chunk of the people getting upset with POW need to widen their horizons.
if it's art you want, there's plenty out there. buckets of artists producing far more interesting and beautiful prints than some of the pieces which are flying out on POW (as a result of ebay selling or panic buying).
shop around, look at things which wont sell out in 30 seconds, it's nice to be able to browse and then make a decision. don't get me wrong, i like a lot of the work on pow, and own a handfull of their prints, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if i'd missed out on them, plenty more favourites out there.
i know there are a wide variety of tastes amongst the board members here, but it seems like a big chunk of the people getting upset with POW need to widen their horizons.
if it's art you want, there's plenty out there. buckets of artists producing far more interesting and beautiful prints than some of the pieces which are flying out on POW (as a result of ebay selling or panic buying).
shop around, look at things which wont sell out in 30 seconds, it's nice to be able to browse and then make a decision. don't get me wrong, i like a lot of the work on pow, and own a handfull of their prints, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if i'd missed out on them, plenty more favourites out there.
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goaty
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No New Releases, by goaty on Feb 21, 2007 3:39:12 GMT 1, Maybe it's been mentioned maybe it hasn't, but I wish POW released prints like OBEY. They have a set release time each week so that everyone knows when the prints will be available and as of recent they now post pictures of what print will be sold, 5 days before release. OBEY seems to deal with it, 400 prints sell out within seconds, and many people get refunds, but atleast it's a fair playing field! Goodnight
Maybe it's been mentioned maybe it hasn't, but I wish POW released prints like OBEY. They have a set release time each week so that everyone knows when the prints will be available and as of recent they now post pictures of what print will be sold, 5 days before release. OBEY seems to deal with it, 400 prints sell out within seconds, and many people get refunds, but atleast it's a fair playing field! Goodnight
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pastiepie
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No New Releases, by pastiepie on Feb 21, 2007 4:41:37 GMT 1, obey release a crap print every week. I know Banksy would never do that, against his ideals etc. etc. I'm just fed up with POW. The quality level has gone down hill recently and you can get a lot of artists work from their site direct (eelus, faile, etc.) except for Banksy. if blackratpress was slightly cheaper they'd take all the business from POW.
obey release a crap print every week. I know Banksy would never do that, against his ideals etc. etc. I'm just fed up with POW. The quality level has gone down hill recently and you can get a lot of artists work from their site direct (eelus, faile, etc.) except for Banksy. if blackratpress was slightly cheaper they'd take all the business from POW.
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frank11
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No New Releases, by frank11 on Feb 21, 2007 9:44:40 GMT 1, After no new relases from Mr B yesterday, i thought i would have a look on ebay to see if i could pick up a bargin. Found this but not sure, item no 260089151430. I dont think bargin more like dream on...........
After no new relases from Mr B yesterday, i thought i would have a look on ebay to see if i could pick up a bargin. Found this but not sure, item no 260089151430. I dont think bargin more like dream on...........
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RetroCanvas
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No New Releases, by RetroCanvas on Feb 21, 2007 12:25:23 GMT 1, retrocanvas.co.uk for example
Blatant plug, sorry,
retro
i know there are a wide variety of tastes amongst the board members here, but it seems like a big chunk of the people getting upset with POW need to widen their horizons. if it's art you want, there's plenty out there. buckets of artists producing far more interesting and beautiful prints than some of the pieces which are flying out on POW (as a result of ebay selling or panic buying). shop around, look at things which wont sell out in 30 seconds, it's nice to be able to browse and then make a decision. don't get me wrong, i like a lot of the work on pow, and own a handfull of their prints, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if i'd missed out on them, plenty more favourites out there.
retrocanvas.co.uk for example Blatant plug, sorry, retro i know there are a wide variety of tastes amongst the board members here, but it seems like a big chunk of the people getting upset with POW need to widen their horizons. if it's art you want, there's plenty out there. buckets of artists producing far more interesting and beautiful prints than some of the pieces which are flying out on POW (as a result of ebay selling or panic buying). shop around, look at things which wont sell out in 30 seconds, it's nice to be able to browse and then make a decision. don't get me wrong, i like a lot of the work on pow, and own a handfull of their prints, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if i'd missed out on them, plenty more favourites out there.
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reados
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No New Releases, by reados on Feb 21, 2007 16:39:50 GMT 1, Mate if you want depressing go and watch Babel like i did last night i still have a headache.
I can't be arsed with this anymore. It's been a depressing day reading these posts, seeing people buy stuff they admit not to liking, trying to get some concrete information and so on and so on. It's a dog eat dog world and where there are a lot of dogs there's normally a lot of s**t. I'm knackered and I'm going to bed.
Mate if you want depressing go and watch Babel like i did last night i still have a headache. I can't be arsed with this anymore. It's been a depressing day reading these posts, seeing people buy stuff they admit not to liking, trying to get some concrete information and so on and so on. It's a dog eat dog world and where there are a lot of dogs there's normally a lot of s**t. I'm knackered and I'm going to bed.
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reados
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No New Releases, by reados on Feb 21, 2007 17:45:02 GMT 1, what did i say to deserve -12, i got a new avitar to smarten me self up!
what did i say to deserve -12, i got a new avitar to smarten me self up!
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No New Releases, by tomhills1 on Feb 21, 2007 22:58:32 GMT 1, i don't think anyone begrudges POW making a load of money on the back of banksy via lesser artists selling out in the blink of an eye. especially as it must be a right kick in the bollocks watchin a print your company made, packed and shipped out a.s.a.p to a satisfied customer, then re-appears days later at double (unsigned) or 3 or 4x (signed) on ebay. i think what the crux of this hostility is, is the lack of information. if you've ever had a dissapointment like a flight cancelled or a train delayed, if someone lets you know what's going on you're a lot more understanding. you may not like it but you'll still respect them for being straight with you. the issue here i believe is that a large number of people are beginning to lose respect a little for POW due to their ambiguity. the longer this saga runs, the more faith is going to be lost. it may heighten anticipation and short-term sales but it is a boom and bust scenario that is un-sustainable. although as kurt cobain said "it's better to burn out than fade away", the same may well ring true for POW in the long run. I totally understand what you are trying to say, but the fact of the matter is they never said a Banksy print would be released today. Yes they did say before Grannies that all the LA prints would be released before Xmas, but that was before server meltdown with the release of Grannies and then Applause . Put yourself in their place, at the end of the day its a business, selling lots of products not just one. Comparing it to a delayed flight or train delayed. We've not paid money up front for a service and then not received it. Yes disappointed that due to the hype that WE have created and will continue to do so. Personally I think we are now living the PoW lottery not just for Banksy prints! But am I going to lose faith with PoW, no, I'll take my chance like everyone else.
i don't disagree but i think you're missing my point a bit, not hard sometimes! all i was trying to get across in a longwinded way, was the general mis-information from POW that has been not just yesterday but ever since they announced the release of the LA prints. it's been one thing after another, they even took a month off to get "organised". i have no problem with them or what they do, as i said yesterday, i'm not even that fussed about any of these prints. i just think they could go about a release of this magnitude with as much information available to everyone as possible.
i don't think anyone begrudges POW making a load of money on the back of banksy via lesser artists selling out in the blink of an eye. especially as it must be a right kick in the bollocks watchin a print your company made, packed and shipped out a.s.a.p to a satisfied customer, then re-appears days later at double (unsigned) or 3 or 4x (signed) on ebay. i think what the crux of this hostility is, is the lack of information. if you've ever had a dissapointment like a flight cancelled or a train delayed, if someone lets you know what's going on you're a lot more understanding. you may not like it but you'll still respect them for being straight with you. the issue here i believe is that a large number of people are beginning to lose respect a little for POW due to their ambiguity. the longer this saga runs, the more faith is going to be lost. it may heighten anticipation and short-term sales but it is a boom and bust scenario that is un-sustainable. although as kurt cobain said "it's better to burn out than fade away", the same may well ring true for POW in the long run. I totally understand what you are trying to say, but the fact of the matter is they never said a Banksy print would be released today. Yes they did say before Grannies that all the LA prints would be released before Xmas, but that was before server meltdown with the release of Grannies and then Applause . Put yourself in their place, at the end of the day its a business, selling lots of products not just one. Comparing it to a delayed flight or train delayed. We've not paid money up front for a service and then not received it. Yes disappointed that due to the hype that WE have created and will continue to do so. Personally I think we are now living the PoW lottery not just for Banksy prints! But am I going to lose faith with PoW, no, I'll take my chance like everyone else. i don't disagree but i think you're missing my point a bit, not hard sometimes! all i was trying to get across in a longwinded way, was the general mis-information from POW that has been not just yesterday but ever since they announced the release of the LA prints. it's been one thing after another, they even took a month off to get "organised". i have no problem with them or what they do, as i said yesterday, i'm not even that fussed about any of these prints. i just think they could go about a release of this magnitude with as much information available to everyone as possible.
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bldouble
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No New Releases, by bldouble on Feb 21, 2007 23:42:45 GMT 1, www.ralphsteadman.com/01gonzo.asp - whats the general attitude on these. Always been a fan of Ralph Steadman ever since I saw the illustrations in Fear and Loathing.
www.ralphsteadman.com/01gonzo.asp - whats the general attitude on these. Always been a fan of Ralph Steadman ever since I saw the illustrations in Fear and Loathing.
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ratpack
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No New Releases, by ratpack on Feb 22, 2007 0:34:06 GMT 1, www.ralphsteadman.com/01gonzo.asp - whats the general attitude on these. Always been a fan of Ralph Steadman ever since I saw the illustrations in Fear and Loathing.
One of my most proud prints is a Dr Gonzo by Steadman signed by both himself and Hunter S Thompson. I love it.
www.ralphsteadman.com/01gonzo.asp - whats the general attitude on these. Always been a fan of Ralph Steadman ever since I saw the illustrations in Fear and Loathing. One of my most proud prints is a Dr Gonzo by Steadman signed by both himself and Hunter S Thompson. I love it.
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paradoxia
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No New Releases, by paradoxia on Feb 27, 2007 15:28:59 GMT 1, Seems a few artists have been removed from POW (3d and Eelus) Sign of some new artists to come including titifreak ??
Seems a few artists have been removed from POW (3d and Eelus) Sign of some new artists to come including titifreak ??
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paradoxia
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No New Releases, by paradoxia on Feb 27, 2007 15:29:35 GMT 1, *** Ooooops double posted ***
*** Ooooops double posted ***
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No New Releases, by mcnuts on Feb 27, 2007 15:38:52 GMT 1, seems to me like this was a thread *bump* To be honest, with all the closet refreshers, surpirsed it didnt happen sooner.
In looking at the first post of this thread, isnt it funny how POW has - respect?
seems to me like this was a thread *bump* To be honest, with all the closet refreshers, surpirsed it didnt happen sooner.
In looking at the first post of this thread, isnt it funny how POW has - respect?
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paradoxia
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No New Releases, by paradoxia on Feb 27, 2007 16:03:52 GMT 1, seems to me like this was a thread *bump* To be honest, with all the closet refreshers, surpirsed it didnt happen sooner. In looking at the first post of this thread, isnt it funny how POW has - respect?
Is that a dig at me mcnuts?
seems to me like this was a thread *bump* To be honest, with all the closet refreshers, surpirsed it didnt happen sooner. In looking at the first post of this thread, isnt it funny how POW has - respect? Is that a dig at me mcnuts?
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No New Releases, by mcnuts on Feb 27, 2007 16:06:47 GMT 1, nope. just surprised their hadnt been any talk of this earlier, that's all. Hell, I'm a closet refresher myself and I'd like to know the info myself. It just seems yer post reflects somethin many ppl are thinkin but nobody wanted to post.
nope. just surprised their hadnt been any talk of this earlier, that's all. Hell, I'm a closet refresher myself and I'd like to know the info myself. It just seems yer post reflects somethin many ppl are thinkin but nobody wanted to post.
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