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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by tab1 on Jun 8, 2020 14:03:42 GMT 1, I used to convince myself that listings like that were fake, nobody would end up ultimately paying, or that the buyer was wealthy and stupid, y'know, so I could sleep at night. But now I start fearing that some dude is investing his entire family's trainer money for the month on some dodgy artwork, and the kids will be walking to school in market-job shoes. AND ANOTHER THING: Ripping off the work of an artist is NOT a victimless crime. Imagine, you spend your whole artistic life trying to do good, only selling to good people or wealthy evil idiots, only to find some unknown person is making not exactly small sums of money from YOUR work. Money that you have no way of knowing how it's being used or spent. Suddenly, your work, from your own hed, is no longer under your control. It's a violation, it's rude, and something, something, I've gotten distracted. What about making money off the back of a murdered person ...........
I used to convince myself that listings like that were fake, nobody would end up ultimately paying, or that the buyer was wealthy and stupid, y'know, so I could sleep at night. But now I start fearing that some dude is investing his entire family's trainer money for the month on some dodgy artwork, and the kids will be walking to school in market-job shoes. AND ANOTHER THING: Ripping off the work of an artist is NOT a victimless crime. Imagine, you spend your whole artistic life trying to do good, only selling to good people or wealthy evil idiots, only to find some unknown person is making not exactly small sums of money from YOUR work. Money that you have no way of knowing how it's being used or spent. Suddenly, your work, from your own hed, is no longer under your control. It's a violation, it's rude, and something, something, I've gotten distracted. What about making money off the back of a murdered person ........... Whom are we talking about , the flippers of hirst NHS prints |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by drip on Jun 8, 2020 14:05:31 GMT 1, Oh god, why must life be so complicated? Why can't it be clear-cut? Why must it require nuanced thinking? Why can you find examples of hypocrisy everywhere if you look hard enough? Why does my tiny baby sometimes go out with the bath water?
One of the things I like about this forum is you generally can't tell a person's colour, ethnicity, gender, religion, hair colour, etc; you base your opinions of a person from the words and thoughts that they post on here. Sure, sometimes a person's politics will shine through, their financial condition will be obvious, or their Kaws collection overwhelming, but, for the most part, you can take people as you find them on here.
This reminds me of the time when I was a teenager (a terrible time for anyone), and my family relocated from a small, quiet town to a bustling and vibrant inner city. And when I say bustling, I mean violent. And when I say vibrant, I mean violent. I'd never seen such poverty or lack of opportunity before. And this poverty fuelled the violence. Fuelled the crime. I'd never found myself having to be part of a gang before, in order to ensure my safety.
I went from being a white kid (surprise!) in a school with literally one Asian, to being in a new school with probably fewer than ten white kids in total. And yeah, I was bullied. By black kids, brown kids, white kids. A bully's a bully. They'll pick on you for any reason they can find.
Anyway, one day, I was in class, it was late afternoon, and I tend to lose focus around 3 o'clock, and begin staring. Not at anything in particular, just zoning out. I was just in power-saving mode, when suddenly I noticed that an Asian kid in my eyeline was gesticulating at me. I focussed my eyes, and saw that the kid was talking at me. He clearly thought I was staring at him.
He looked right at me, and mouthed, what I understood to be, are you alright?
I thought for a moment, was I alright? Yeah. Yeah, I thought I was. That was nice of that big kid to ask, so I looked at him, nodded and then mouthed back, yeah.
Anyway, turns out the kid had actually mouthed, do you want a fight?
And I'd politely nodded and said yes. I discovered the mistake when, immediately after school, several of my friends offered to hold my bag and coat, started massaging my shoulders for me, and calling me mental.
Of course, I couldn't back out, I figured that would just delay the inevitable. I thought, he'll punch me in the arm a few times, maybe some kicks, we'll tussle on the floor, then I'll say he's won and we'll part as friends.
I'd never been punched in the face before.
He beat me in every part of my body. Even my coccyx hurt.
I remember one of my friends asking whether I wanted to back-out.......after 10 minutes of solid beating.
Anyway, eventually I employed the polar bear defence, and pretended to be dead.
It took about a year for things to stop hurting, and my teeth still aren't right.
And the funny thing is, even after that experience, I still believe that my life is easier because I'm white, systemic racism is a problem, discrimination exists, and bullies are trash.
Oh god, why must life be so complicated? Why can't it be clear-cut? Why must it require nuanced thinking? Why can you find examples of hypocrisy everywhere if you look hard enough? Why does my tiny baby sometimes go out with the bath water?
One of the things I like about this forum is you generally can't tell a person's colour, ethnicity, gender, religion, hair colour, etc; you base your opinions of a person from the words and thoughts that they post on here. Sure, sometimes a person's politics will shine through, their financial condition will be obvious, or their Kaws collection overwhelming, but, for the most part, you can take people as you find them on here.
This reminds me of the time when I was a teenager (a terrible time for anyone), and my family relocated from a small, quiet town to a bustling and vibrant inner city. And when I say bustling, I mean violent. And when I say vibrant, I mean violent. I'd never seen such poverty or lack of opportunity before. And this poverty fuelled the violence. Fuelled the crime. I'd never found myself having to be part of a gang before, in order to ensure my safety.
I went from being a white kid (surprise!) in a school with literally one Asian, to being in a new school with probably fewer than ten white kids in total. And yeah, I was bullied. By black kids, brown kids, white kids. A bully's a bully. They'll pick on you for any reason they can find.
Anyway, one day, I was in class, it was late afternoon, and I tend to lose focus around 3 o'clock, and begin staring. Not at anything in particular, just zoning out. I was just in power-saving mode, when suddenly I noticed that an Asian kid in my eyeline was gesticulating at me. I focussed my eyes, and saw that the kid was talking at me. He clearly thought I was staring at him.
He looked right at me, and mouthed, what I understood to be, are you alright?
I thought for a moment, was I alright? Yeah. Yeah, I thought I was. That was nice of that big kid to ask, so I looked at him, nodded and then mouthed back, yeah.
Anyway, turns out the kid had actually mouthed, do you want a fight?
And I'd politely nodded and said yes. I discovered the mistake when, immediately after school, several of my friends offered to hold my bag and coat, started massaging my shoulders for me, and calling me mental.
Of course, I couldn't back out, I figured that would just delay the inevitable. I thought, he'll punch me in the arm a few times, maybe some kicks, we'll tussle on the floor, then I'll say he's won and we'll part as friends.
I'd never been punched in the face before.
He beat me in every part of my body. Even my coccyx hurt.
I remember one of my friends asking whether I wanted to back-out.......after 10 minutes of solid beating.
Anyway, eventually I employed the polar bear defence, and pretended to be dead.
It took about a year for things to stop hurting, and my teeth still aren't right.
And the funny thing is, even after that experience, I still believe that my life is easier because I'm white, systemic racism is a problem, discrimination exists, and bullies are trash.
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by drip on Jun 8, 2020 14:13:30 GMT 1, Holys**t easy to pick out the f**kingracists is this thread. Thanks for making yourselves known.
*like, oh my god.
Holys**t easy to pick out the f**kingracists is this thread. Thanks for making yourselves known. Every so often, real-life society events leak onto the art forum, and it's interesting* to see people's darker, more mental thoughts on here. *like, oh my god. |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by tab1 on Jun 8, 2020 14:23:06 GMT 1, Oh god, why must life be so complicated? Why can't it be clear-cut? Why must it require nuanced thinking? Why can you find examples of hypocrisy everywhere if you look hard enough? Why does my tiny baby sometimes go out with the bath water? One of the things I like about this forum is you generally can't tell a person's colour, ethnicity, gender, religion, hair colour, etc, you base your opinions of a person from the words and thoughts that they post on here. Sure, sometimes a person's politics will shine through, or their financial condition will be obvious, or their Kaws collection overwhelming, but, for the most part, you can take people as you find them on here. This reminds me of the time when I was a teenager (a terrible time for anyone), and my family relocated from a small, quiet town to a bustling and vibrant inner city. And when I say bustling, I mean violent. And when I say vibrant, I mean violent. I'd never seen such poverty or lack of opportunity before. And this poverty fuelled the violence. Fuelled the crime. I'd never found myself having to be part of a gang, in order to ensure my safety. I went from being a white kid (surprise!) in a school with literally one Asian, to being in a new school with probably fewer than ten white kids. And yeah, I was bullied. By black kids, brown kids, white kids. A bully's a bully. They'll pick on you for any reason they can find. Anyway, one day, I was in class, it was late afternoon, and I tend to lose focus around 3 o'clock, and begin staring. Not at anything in particular, just zoning out. I was just in power-saving mode, when suddenly I noticed that an Asian kid in my eyeline was gesticulating at me. I focussed my eyes, and saw that the kid was talking at me. He clearly thought I was staring at him. He looked right at me, and mouthed, what I understood to be, are you alright? I thought for a moment, was I alright? Yeah. Yeah, I thought I was. That was nice of the kid to ask, so I looked at him, nodded and then mouthed back, yeah. Anyway, turns out the kid had actually mouthed, do you want a fight? And I'd politely nodded and said yes. I discovered the mistake when, immediately after school, several of my friends offered to hold my bag and coat, started massaging my shoulders for me, and calling me mental. Of course, I couldn't back out, I figured that would just delay the inevitable. I thought, he'll punch me in the arm a few times, maybe some kicks, we'll tussle on the floor, then I'll say he's won and we'll part as friends. I'd never been punched in the face before. He beat me in every part of my body. Even my coccyx hurt. I remember one of my friends asking whether I wanted to back-out.......after 10 minutes of solid beating. Anyway, eventually I employed the polar bear defence, and pretended to be dead. It took about a year for things to stop hurting, and my teeth still aren't right. And the funny thing is, even after that experience, I still believe that my life is easier because I'm white, systemic racism is a problem, discrimination exists, and bullies are trash.
Oh god, why must life be so complicated? Why can't it be clear-cut? Why must it require nuanced thinking? Why can you find examples of hypocrisy everywhere if you look hard enough? Why does my tiny baby sometimes go out with the bath water? One of the things I like about this forum is you generally can't tell a person's colour, ethnicity, gender, religion, hair colour, etc, you base your opinions of a person from the words and thoughts that they post on here. Sure, sometimes a person's politics will shine through, or their financial condition will be obvious, or their Kaws collection overwhelming, but, for the most part, you can take people as you find them on here. This reminds me of the time when I was a teenager (a terrible time for anyone), and my family relocated from a small, quiet town to a bustling and vibrant inner city. And when I say bustling, I mean violent. And when I say vibrant, I mean violent. I'd never seen such poverty or lack of opportunity before. And this poverty fuelled the violence. Fuelled the crime. I'd never found myself having to be part of a gang, in order to ensure my safety. I went from being a white kid (surprise!) in a school with literally one Asian, to being in a new school with probably fewer than ten white kids. And yeah, I was bullied. By black kids, brown kids, white kids. A bully's a bully. They'll pick on you for any reason they can find. Anyway, one day, I was in class, it was late afternoon, and I tend to lose focus around 3 o'clock, and begin staring. Not at anything in particular, just zoning out. I was just in power-saving mode, when suddenly I noticed that an Asian kid in my eyeline was gesticulating at me. I focussed my eyes, and saw that the kid was talking at me. He clearly thought I was staring at him. He looked right at me, and mouthed, what I understood to be, are you alright? I thought for a moment, was I alright? Yeah. Yeah, I thought I was. That was nice of the kid to ask, so I looked at him, nodded and then mouthed back, yeah. Anyway, turns out the kid had actually mouthed, do you want a fight? And I'd politely nodded and said yes. I discovered the mistake when, immediately after school, several of my friends offered to hold my bag and coat, started massaging my shoulders for me, and calling me mental. Of course, I couldn't back out, I figured that would just delay the inevitable. I thought, he'll punch me in the arm a few times, maybe some kicks, we'll tussle on the floor, then I'll say he's won and we'll part as friends. I'd never been punched in the face before. He beat me in every part of my body. Even my coccyx hurt. I remember one of my friends asking whether I wanted to back-out.......after 10 minutes of solid beating. Anyway, eventually I employed the polar bear defence, and pretended to be dead. It took about a year for things to stop hurting, and my teeth still aren't right. And the funny thing is, even after that experience, I still believe that my life is easier because I'm white, systemic racism is a problem, discrimination exists, and bullies are trash. Virginia opposum stance works best |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by drip on Jun 8, 2020 14:24:35 GMT 1, Oh god, why must life be so complicated? Why can't it be clear-cut? Why must it require nuanced thinking? Why can you find examples of hypocrisy everywhere if you look hard enough? Why does my tiny baby sometimes go out with the bath water? One of the things I like about this forum is you generally can't tell a person's colour, ethnicity, gender, religion, hair colour, etc, you base your opinions of a person from the words and thoughts that they post on here. Sure, sometimes a person's politics will shine through, or their financial condition will be obvious, or their Kaws collection overwhelming, but, for the most part, you can take people as you find them on here. This reminds me of the time when I was a teenager (a terrible time for anyone), and my family relocated from a small, quiet town to a bustling and vibrant inner city. And when I say bustling, I mean violent. And when I say vibrant, I mean violent. I'd never seen such poverty or lack of opportunity before. And this poverty fuelled the violence. Fuelled the crime. I'd never found myself having to be part of a gang, in order to ensure my safety. I went from being a white kid (surprise!) in a school with literally one Asian, to being in a new school with probably fewer than ten white kids. And yeah, I was bullied. By black kids, brown kids, white kids. A bully's a bully. They'll pick on you for any reason they can find. Anyway, one day, I was in class, it was late afternoon, and I tend to lose focus around 3 o'clock, and begin staring. Not at anything in particular, just zoning out. I was just in power-saving mode, when suddenly I noticed that an Asian kid in my eyeline was gesticulating at me. I focussed my eyes, and saw that the kid was talking at me. He clearly thought I was staring at him. He looked right at me, and mouthed, what I understood to be, are you alright? I thought for a moment, was I alright? Yeah. Yeah, I thought I was. That was nice of the kid to ask, so I looked at him, nodded and then mouthed back, yeah. Anyway, turns out the kid had actually mouthed, do you want a fight? And I'd politely nodded and said yes. I discovered the mistake when, immediately after school, several of my friends offered to hold my bag and coat, started massaging my shoulders for me, and calling me mental. Of course, I couldn't back out, I figured that would just delay the inevitable. I thought, he'll punch me in the arm a few times, maybe some kicks, we'll tussle on the floor, then I'll say he's won and we'll part as friends. I'd never been punched in the face before. He beat me in every part of my body. Even my coccyx hurt. I remember one of my friends asking whether I wanted to back-out.......after 10 minutes of solid beating. Anyway, eventually I employed the polar bear defence, and pretended to be dead. It took about a year for things to stop hurting, and my teeth still aren't right. And the funny thing is, even after that experience, I still believe that my life is easier because I'm white, systemic racism is a problem, discrimination exists, and bullies are trash. Virginia opposum stance works best
Oh god, why must life be so complicated? Why can't it be clear-cut? Why must it require nuanced thinking? Why can you find examples of hypocrisy everywhere if you look hard enough? Why does my tiny baby sometimes go out with the bath water? One of the things I like about this forum is you generally can't tell a person's colour, ethnicity, gender, religion, hair colour, etc, you base your opinions of a person from the words and thoughts that they post on here. Sure, sometimes a person's politics will shine through, or their financial condition will be obvious, or their Kaws collection overwhelming, but, for the most part, you can take people as you find them on here. This reminds me of the time when I was a teenager (a terrible time for anyone), and my family relocated from a small, quiet town to a bustling and vibrant inner city. And when I say bustling, I mean violent. And when I say vibrant, I mean violent. I'd never seen such poverty or lack of opportunity before. And this poverty fuelled the violence. Fuelled the crime. I'd never found myself having to be part of a gang, in order to ensure my safety. I went from being a white kid (surprise!) in a school with literally one Asian, to being in a new school with probably fewer than ten white kids. And yeah, I was bullied. By black kids, brown kids, white kids. A bully's a bully. They'll pick on you for any reason they can find. Anyway, one day, I was in class, it was late afternoon, and I tend to lose focus around 3 o'clock, and begin staring. Not at anything in particular, just zoning out. I was just in power-saving mode, when suddenly I noticed that an Asian kid in my eyeline was gesticulating at me. I focussed my eyes, and saw that the kid was talking at me. He clearly thought I was staring at him. He looked right at me, and mouthed, what I understood to be, are you alright? I thought for a moment, was I alright? Yeah. Yeah, I thought I was. That was nice of the kid to ask, so I looked at him, nodded and then mouthed back, yeah. Anyway, turns out the kid had actually mouthed, do you want a fight? And I'd politely nodded and said yes. I discovered the mistake when, immediately after school, several of my friends offered to hold my bag and coat, started massaging my shoulders for me, and calling me mental. Of course, I couldn't back out, I figured that would just delay the inevitable. I thought, he'll punch me in the arm a few times, maybe some kicks, we'll tussle on the floor, then I'll say he's won and we'll part as friends. I'd never been punched in the face before. He beat me in every part of my body. Even my coccyx hurt. I remember one of my friends asking whether I wanted to back-out.......after 10 minutes of solid beating. Anyway, eventually I employed the polar bear defence, and pretended to be dead. It took about a year for things to stop hurting, and my teeth still aren't right. And the funny thing is, even after that experience, I still believe that my life is easier because I'm white, systemic racism is a problem, discrimination exists, and bullies are trash. Virginia opposum stance works best Googled and noted, ta. x |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by irl1 on Jun 8, 2020 14:26:33 GMT 1, Private listing and percentage going to Charity like the other listing, big clap on the back for them ffs That small donation to charity is surely only there to help their conscience at best. Actually not even sure it's allowed on ebay unless it's done direct with the ebay charity thingy.
I'd say its to fool the bidders
Private listing and percentage going to Charity like the other listing, big clap on the back for them ffs That small donation to charity is surely only there to help their conscience at best. Actually not even sure it's allowed on ebay unless it's done direct with the ebay charity thingy. I'd say its to fool the bidders |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by Lunch Special on Jun 8, 2020 14:32:28 GMT 1, Majority of the people on this forum should be disgusted with yourself your silence speaks volumes. I was waiting to see when somebody was going to say something and it took somebody like Banksy to say something for you guys to say something.
Please watch your posts and be direct with them at whom you are speaking about. Some of US have been out protesting and marching here in the streets of NYC and some of us might take offense to you staying we aint doing ish. One thing we ain’t doing is sitting behind a username pointing out what others ain’t doing.
These Boots is on the ground over here mask on.
Majority of the people on this forum should be disgusted with yourself your silence speaks volumes. I was waiting to see when somebody was going to say something and it took somebody like Banksy to say something for you guys to say something. Please watch your posts and be direct with them at whom you are speaking about. Some of US have been out protesting and marching here in the streets of NYC and some of us might take offense to you staying we aint doing ish. One thing we ain’t doing is sitting behind a username pointing out what others ain’t doing. These Boots is on the ground over here mask on. |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by chevyav53 on Jun 8, 2020 15:05:33 GMT 1, Ahh the ignorance continues... Why does Banksy need to write a paragraph to go with the art.... because many are too stupid to understand, even with a paragraph. Ahh everyone needs to stop saying the N word... no you need to stop saying the N word. Love how white privilege and “mansplaining” morons are continuing to try to tell black people what they can or can’t do.... still don’t get it do you... Ohh but my family came after slavery... Ellis island... it’s wasn’t us/me... when was Ellis 1890s-1950s ish... segregation continued into the 70s All of the ignorant comments are the exact reason the systemic issues have continued. Keep trying to pretend it’s not a problem or that it’s not you. Keep trying when it’s right in front as an image and a paragraph, that’s exactly why you’re the problem. Why do you keep posting? It's YOU that calls people "Cholos" and says "we should stop these people from being able to breed" YOU are the problem. Why on earth should anyone be sorry or carry the burden for what their ancestors did or didn't do? Its the most redundant thing ever. I assume you blame all present day Germans for the holocaust too? Do they need to keep apologising for it? Maybe we should make the children of those police officers apologise for what their fathers did? I don't give as**t what someone's skin colour is - you get no special treatment from me either way. Your either a decent person or your not but I don't give you extra points because you are black or white. And on the topic of slavery - you do realise that Africans enslaved their own people and also sold them to the transatlantic slave traders. Both parties are equally culpable and equally cunty. When it comes to race - everyone is so scared to form an actual opinion on these topics, they just blindly go along with whatever they read on Facebook or Instagram. Also, its an awful shame this entire movement is marching in the face of a total piece ofs**t. George Floyd was a worthless human being that robbed a pregnant woman with a gun - he pointed the gun at her pregnant stomach. He's only a step above a nonce. I still entirely disagree with the way the police dealt with him - they are also totals**thouses and will hopefully be found guilty for murder/manslaughter! I know its hard for some of you to get your head around but it possible to dislike George Floyd and still be disgusted by the way the police dealt with him. Believe it or not, its possible to form your own opinion of a situation - you don't have to drink the cool aid. As for Banksy's post on Instagram - it was one of the most condescending things I have ever read. SHOOT ME.
Ok for the white man I will provide you the definition of cholo so your ignorant arse will stop.... Cholo -a young man belonging to a Mexican-American urban subculture associated with street gangs.
There are also cholas by the way..... those are the women which you probably have little experience with.
I've hung out with cholos and cholas from both sides, norteños (crazy story how I got to know them in high school as I went to a rough high school on the East Side) and sureños (got to know two brothers when I was a painter/taper for a few years, Pablo and Arturo... good times)
So stop with your ignorance. You obviously stink of white privilege. I got out of my comfort zone in life that led me to meet many amazing people around this world including gang members. Probably because I treated them like people while you try to marginalize and keep them down.
Ahh the ignorance continues... Why does Banksy need to write a paragraph to go with the art.... because many are too stupid to understand, even with a paragraph. Ahh everyone needs to stop saying the N word... no you need to stop saying the N word. Love how white privilege and “mansplaining” morons are continuing to try to tell black people what they can or can’t do.... still don’t get it do you... Ohh but my family came after slavery... Ellis island... it’s wasn’t us/me... when was Ellis 1890s-1950s ish... segregation continued into the 70s All of the ignorant comments are the exact reason the systemic issues have continued. Keep trying to pretend it’s not a problem or that it’s not you. Keep trying when it’s right in front as an image and a paragraph, that’s exactly why you’re the problem. Why do you keep posting? It's YOU that calls people "Cholos" and says "we should stop these people from being able to breed" YOU are the problem. Why on earth should anyone be sorry or carry the burden for what their ancestors did or didn't do? Its the most redundant thing ever. I assume you blame all present day Germans for the holocaust too? Do they need to keep apologising for it? Maybe we should make the children of those police officers apologise for what their fathers did? I don't give as**t what someone's skin colour is - you get no special treatment from me either way. Your either a decent person or your not but I don't give you extra points because you are black or white. And on the topic of slavery - you do realise that Africans enslaved their own people and also sold them to the transatlantic slave traders. Both parties are equally culpable and equally cunty. When it comes to race - everyone is so scared to form an actual opinion on these topics, they just blindly go along with whatever they read on Facebook or Instagram. Also, its an awful shame this entire movement is marching in the face of a total piece ofs**t. George Floyd was a worthless human being that robbed a pregnant woman with a gun - he pointed the gun at her pregnant stomach. He's only a step above a nonce. I still entirely disagree with the way the police dealt with him - they are also totals**thouses and will hopefully be found guilty for murder/manslaughter! I know its hard for some of you to get your head around but it possible to dislike George Floyd and still be disgusted by the way the police dealt with him. Believe it or not, its possible to form your own opinion of a situation - you don't have to drink the cool aid. As for Banksy's post on Instagram - it was one of the most condescending things I have ever read. SHOOT ME. You really are ignorant... and pathetic to have gone through everything I've posted to find something lol, like life you seem to come up short though. Probably why so much hate. You should turn that energy into something positive. Try reading up on the issues. Ok for the white man I will provide you the definition of cholo so your ignorant arse will stop.... Cholo -a young man belonging to a Mexican-American urban subculture associated with street gangs. There are also cholas by the way..... those are the women which you probably have little experience with. I've hung out with cholos and cholas from both sides, norteños (crazy story how I got to know them in high school as I went to a rough high school on the East Side) and sureños (got to know two brothers when I was a painter/taper for a few years, Pablo and Arturo... good times) So stop with your ignorance. You obviously stink of white privilege. I got out of my comfort zone in life that led me to meet many amazing people around this world including gang members. Probably because I treated them like people while you try to marginalize and keep them down. |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by tab1 on Jun 8, 2020 15:37:44 GMT 1, www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=24698&LangID=E
Summary of the uks stance
which with no brexit deals confirmed , covid 19 and the current protests will only further division and hate crimes
Regarding brexit deals ,more trade agreements were made and relied upon with America with exiting the Eu ,now with world events taking a toll with all nations and especially America the public are not looking long term at the financial implications that will come , next year will be costly to all and hate crimes will surge
media Attention towards Isis has been silent , in times like these you would think these groups would take advantage ? Was media portrayal highlighted and exaggerated to create acceptance in the publics consciousness that a threat is always present to justify governments ongoing invasions
www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=24698&LangID=ESummary of the uks stance which with no brexit deals confirmed , covid 19 and the current protests will only further division and hate crimes Regarding brexit deals ,more trade agreements were made and relied upon with America with exiting the Eu ,now with world events taking a toll with all nations and especially America the public are not looking long term at the financial implications that will come , next year will be costly to all and hate crimes will surge media Attention towards Isis has been silent , in times like these you would think these groups would take advantage ? Was media portrayal highlighted and exaggerated to create acceptance in the publics consciousness that a threat is always present to justify governments ongoing invasions
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by Express Post on Jun 8, 2020 16:46:56 GMT 1, I only asked where the protestors were.
All I got was a bunch of excuses.
Sooo where were the protestors when the oriental Asians copped racism by the general public across the world at the start of Covid-19? The black lives movement was started by a black person to start open peaceful discussion for change ,to raise awareness that other racial groups may not be aware of there is enough people in the population that you describe that if any one person from that group feels offended they can also do the same and set up a group on social media to represent their feelings and educate people on their actions towards their race each particular race may not be aware of each others tensions and underlying racial bias other groups may not of understood bias that is shown towards other races hence these groups are set up to educate the mass populations on the other hand you do not have to be from that particular race to start a movement or a cause to raise awareness and to educate people on social media the internet is free and and has an audience of billions if YOU feel passionately and are deeply concerned by the events which is shown by the posts you have added , YOU can be the one person to start the momentum to raise awareness , by starting a social media page otherwise you are just as bad as the officers that stood around and did absolutely nothing that watched George floyd be killed in your mind you can see inequalities and are angry about the disparities between the races , you have taken time to raise your thoughts on an art forum, the same time you spend here you can set up a social media page to address your concerns and positively raise awareness and discussions to progress forwards at present your aims are just to create division, what positives have you bought by your comments ?
I only asked where the protestors were. All I got was a bunch of excuses. Sooo where were the protestors when the oriental Asians copped racism by the general public across the world at the start of Covid-19? The black lives movement was started by a black person to start open peaceful discussion for change ,to raise awareness that other racial groups may not be aware of there is enough people in the population that you describe that if any one person from that group feels offended they can also do the same and set up a group on social media to represent their feelings and educate people on their actions towards their race each particular race may not be aware of each others tensions and underlying racial bias other groups may not of understood bias that is shown towards other races hence these groups are set up to educate the mass populations on the other hand you do not have to be from that particular race to start a movement or a cause to raise awareness and to educate people on social media the internet is free and and has an audience of billions if YOU feel passionately and are deeply concerned by the events which is shown by the posts you have added , YOU can be the one person to start the momentum to raise awareness , by starting a social media page otherwise you are just as bad as the officers that stood around and did absolutely nothing that watched George floyd be killed in your mind you can see inequalities and are angry about the disparities between the races , you have taken time to raise your thoughts on an art forum, the same time you spend here you can set up a social media page to address your concerns and positively raise awareness and discussions to progress forwards at present your aims are just to create division, what positives have you bought by your comments ? |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by H.R. on Jun 8, 2020 17:02:57 GMT 1, I’m waiting for people’s emotions to settle and common since to kick in. I see a lot of disgust, hate and blind emotions driving them instead of the mush between their ears. I get it. But it’s not the answer.
In order to fix discrimination within forces, we should be lobbying for reform and more monitoring with said forces. Mandatory body cams at all times. Hell, even at lunch if you’re on the street and not in your office. Hell, we have the tech that cops could wear vests that have several cams front and back with audio with almost no footprint. The tech is their, the money is not. 360 cams with audio on all cop cars and an independent team that reviews the use of violence. No off switches. Only backup cams in case yours stops working. And laws you can’t be on the job unless your cam is on and working and penalties if you’re working and it’s not on.
I support BLM, I support protesting, but not the looting and destruction of people’s property in their community. That actually only molds the next generation of hate and racists.
Would like to see those in power floating these ideas and working with the leaders of BLM to give their followers something of substance that can bring real change vs defunding the police which will only perpetuate the problem we all want to see go away. You can’t make it go away by defunding them. Only a fool would think otherwise.
It’s like spanking every kid in the class because a few did something bad all the other kids disagreed with in the first place and then took away their lunch money so they couldn’t eat in the foreseeable future. That’s not the solution, that’s just misguided anger.
Instigators that fan the flames are punk ass lil bitches. I’m Waiting for REAL leaders with real ideas that will work to step up vs fanning the flames of a known issue. These politicians in the USA should ALREADY be doing what I’m saying vs caving to anger. Have some backbone and address the issue. Fix it. Don’t take the easy way out like f**kingchildren. Wake up, Step up, Fix it. Don’t be cowards.
No love for racists, looters or cowards.
I’m waiting for people’s emotions to settle and common since to kick in. I see a lot of disgust, hate and blind emotions driving them instead of the mush between their ears. I get it. But it’s not the answer.
In order to fix discrimination within forces, we should be lobbying for reform and more monitoring with said forces. Mandatory body cams at all times. Hell, even at lunch if you’re on the street and not in your office. Hell, we have the tech that cops could wear vests that have several cams front and back with audio with almost no footprint. The tech is their, the money is not. 360 cams with audio on all cop cars and an independent team that reviews the use of violence. No off switches. Only backup cams in case yours stops working. And laws you can’t be on the job unless your cam is on and working and penalties if you’re working and it’s not on.
I support BLM, I support protesting, but not the looting and destruction of people’s property in their community. That actually only molds the next generation of hate and racists.
Would like to see those in power floating these ideas and working with the leaders of BLM to give their followers something of substance that can bring real change vs defunding the police which will only perpetuate the problem we all want to see go away. You can’t make it go away by defunding them. Only a fool would think otherwise.
It’s like spanking every kid in the class because a few did something bad all the other kids disagreed with in the first place and then took away their lunch money so they couldn’t eat in the foreseeable future. That’s not the solution, that’s just misguided anger.
Instigators that fan the flames are punk ass lil bitches. I’m Waiting for REAL leaders with real ideas that will work to step up vs fanning the flames of a known issue. These politicians in the USA should ALREADY be doing what I’m saying vs caving to anger. Have some backbone and address the issue. Fix it. Don’t take the easy way out like f**kingchildren. Wake up, Step up, Fix it. Don’t be cowards.
No love for racists, looters or cowards.
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by NYart on Jun 8, 2020 17:06:09 GMT 1, The common thread I’ve noticed through all the issues lately whether it’s race, politics, religion, is the near complete inability of opposing sides to see things from the others perspective. Far too often we believe and are adamant that we know for a fact why people behave or react the way they do, and it leaves us unable to find common ground. I know when I get cut off in traffic I’m convinced the guys a psychopath with no regard for others on the road. Where the truth is he was probably distracted, had a long day, or just didn’t see me. There’s always things we don’t know about others and what influences their actions. People can’t come to a fair conclusion about something or someone without all the information, yet strongly hold on to their beliefs despite not having all the information.
I went to school for and have my Bachelors in Criminal Justice, but never became a cop. Too many things I don’t agree with that I couldn’t in good conscious enforce and arrest people for.
That being said, lots of my classmates, some of whom were pretty good friends are currently police officers. I can’t think of a single one of them I’d have considered racist in the slightest. White, black, Indian, male, female, pretty diverse group I graduated with.
Clearly there is an issue with police and their misuse of force in society. I think it requires a little more thought and effort than believing they are all, or a good part of them, are racists. Surely their are individual officers who hold racist beliefs, as there are with all groups/professions. Essentially stereotyping them as racist is just as unhelpful as any other stereotype.
I think it really just boils down to the job. The vast majority of citizens that police encounter are not having their best days. Whether they’re the victims or the offenders, cops tend to interact with people at their worst. That’s not the say the individuals are the worst society has to offer, they’re just at a low point in their life. Whether they’re dealing with individuals being stopped for drugs, or someone who just got robbed, cops don’t see the best of humanity on a daily basis.
Assuming the above is true, it wouldn’t be hard to believe that they can come to expect the worst of people, when the majority of what they encounter is negative. They may even respond differently based on where they are being called to. If being called in to shots fired in a neighborhood with high drug activity vs a rural area with hunters, it does make sense. If they responded with a blanket approach, not learning from experience about what to expect, their safety and others could be in danger.
None of this is an excuse for police brutality. They should be held to a higher standard considering the importance of their job and the high stakes involved. But when people believe all police are violent and racist, and police believe all the people they encounter are criminals and out to get them, there is nowhere to go from there. Just an endless escalating cycle of violence and hate.
The common thread I’ve noticed through all the issues lately whether it’s race, politics, religion, is the near complete inability of opposing sides to see things from the others perspective. Far too often we believe and are adamant that we know for a fact why people behave or react the way they do, and it leaves us unable to find common ground. I know when I get cut off in traffic I’m convinced the guys a psychopath with no regard for others on the road. Where the truth is he was probably distracted, had a long day, or just didn’t see me. There’s always things we don’t know about others and what influences their actions. People can’t come to a fair conclusion about something or someone without all the information, yet strongly hold on to their beliefs despite not having all the information.
I went to school for and have my Bachelors in Criminal Justice, but never became a cop. Too many things I don’t agree with that I couldn’t in good conscious enforce and arrest people for.
That being said, lots of my classmates, some of whom were pretty good friends are currently police officers. I can’t think of a single one of them I’d have considered racist in the slightest. White, black, Indian, male, female, pretty diverse group I graduated with.
Clearly there is an issue with police and their misuse of force in society. I think it requires a little more thought and effort than believing they are all, or a good part of them, are racists. Surely their are individual officers who hold racist beliefs, as there are with all groups/professions. Essentially stereotyping them as racist is just as unhelpful as any other stereotype.
I think it really just boils down to the job. The vast majority of citizens that police encounter are not having their best days. Whether they’re the victims or the offenders, cops tend to interact with people at their worst. That’s not the say the individuals are the worst society has to offer, they’re just at a low point in their life. Whether they’re dealing with individuals being stopped for drugs, or someone who just got robbed, cops don’t see the best of humanity on a daily basis.
Assuming the above is true, it wouldn’t be hard to believe that they can come to expect the worst of people, when the majority of what they encounter is negative. They may even respond differently based on where they are being called to. If being called in to shots fired in a neighborhood with high drug activity vs a rural area with hunters, it does make sense. If they responded with a blanket approach, not learning from experience about what to expect, their safety and others could be in danger.
None of this is an excuse for police brutality. They should be held to a higher standard considering the importance of their job and the high stakes involved. But when people believe all police are violent and racist, and police believe all the people they encounter are criminals and out to get them, there is nowhere to go from there. Just an endless escalating cycle of violence and hate.
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by Hairbland on Jun 8, 2020 17:09:49 GMT 1, The common thread I’ve noticed through all the issues lately whether it’s race, politics, religion, is the near complete inability of opposing sides to see things from the others perspective. Far too often we believe and are adamant that we know for a fact why people behave or react the way they do, and it leaves us unable to find common ground. I know when I get cut off in traffic I’m convinced the guys a psychopath with no regard for others on the road. Where the truth is he was probably distracted, had a long day, or just didn’t see me. There’s always things we don’t know about others and what influences their actions. People can’t come to a fair conclusion about something or someone without all the information, yet strongly hold on to their beliefs despite not having all the information. I went to school for and have my Bachelors in Criminal Justice, but never became a cop. Too many things I don’t agree with that I couldn’t in good conscious enforce and arrest people for. That being said, lots of my classmates, some of whom were pretty good friends are currently police officers. I can’t think of a single one of them I’d have considered racist in the slightest. White, black, Indian, male, female, pretty diverse group I graduated with. Clearly there is an issue with police and their misuse of force in society. I think it requires a little more thought and effort than believing they are all, or a good part of them, are racists. Surely their are individual officers who hold racist beliefs, as there are with all groups/professions. Essentially stereotyping them as racist is just as unhelpful as any other stereotype. I think it really just boils down to the job. The vast majority of citizens that police encounter are not having their best days. Whether they’re the victims or the offenders, cops tend to interact with people at their worst. That’s not the say the individuals are the worst society has to offer, they’re just at a low point in their life. Whether they’re dealing with individuals being stopped for drugs, or someone who just got robbed, cops don’t see the best of humanity on a daily basis. Assuming the above is true, it wouldn’t be hard to believe that they can come to expect the worst of people, when the majority of what they encounter is negative. They may even respond differently based on where they are being called to. If being called in to shots fired in a neighborhood with high drug activity vs a rural area with hunters, it does make sense. If they responded with a blanket approach, not learning from experience about what to expect, their safety and others could be in danger. None of this is an excuse for police brutality. They should be held to a higher standard considering the importance of their job and the high stakes involved. But when people believe all police are violent and racist, and police believe all the people are criminals and out to get them, there is nowhere to go from there. Just an endless escalating cycle of violence and hate.
I think there are too many people talking and not enough listening.
The common thread I’ve noticed through all the issues lately whether it’s race, politics, religion, is the near complete inability of opposing sides to see things from the others perspective. Far too often we believe and are adamant that we know for a fact why people behave or react the way they do, and it leaves us unable to find common ground. I know when I get cut off in traffic I’m convinced the guys a psychopath with no regard for others on the road. Where the truth is he was probably distracted, had a long day, or just didn’t see me. There’s always things we don’t know about others and what influences their actions. People can’t come to a fair conclusion about something or someone without all the information, yet strongly hold on to their beliefs despite not having all the information. I went to school for and have my Bachelors in Criminal Justice, but never became a cop. Too many things I don’t agree with that I couldn’t in good conscious enforce and arrest people for. That being said, lots of my classmates, some of whom were pretty good friends are currently police officers. I can’t think of a single one of them I’d have considered racist in the slightest. White, black, Indian, male, female, pretty diverse group I graduated with. Clearly there is an issue with police and their misuse of force in society. I think it requires a little more thought and effort than believing they are all, or a good part of them, are racists. Surely their are individual officers who hold racist beliefs, as there are with all groups/professions. Essentially stereotyping them as racist is just as unhelpful as any other stereotype. I think it really just boils down to the job. The vast majority of citizens that police encounter are not having their best days. Whether they’re the victims or the offenders, cops tend to interact with people at their worst. That’s not the say the individuals are the worst society has to offer, they’re just at a low point in their life. Whether they’re dealing with individuals being stopped for drugs, or someone who just got robbed, cops don’t see the best of humanity on a daily basis. Assuming the above is true, it wouldn’t be hard to believe that they can come to expect the worst of people, when the majority of what they encounter is negative. They may even respond differently based on where they are being called to. If being called in to shots fired in a neighborhood with high drug activity vs a rural area with hunters, it does make sense. If they responded with a blanket approach, not learning from experience about what to expect, their safety and others could be in danger. None of this is an excuse for police brutality. They should be held to a higher standard considering the importance of their job and the high stakes involved. But when people believe all police are violent and racist, and police believe all the people are criminals and out to get them, there is nowhere to go from there. Just an endless escalating cycle of violence and hate. I think there are too many people talking and not enough listening. |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by H.R. on Jun 8, 2020 17:16:01 GMT 1, [/quote]I think there are too many people talking and not enough listening. [/quote]
You think?
It’s almost like people had already been locked up for 6 months in their homes pissed off and someone lit a match... 🔥
[/quote]I think there are too many people talking and not enough listening. [/quote]
You think?
It’s almost like people had already been locked up for 6 months in their homes pissed off and someone lit a match... 🔥
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by tab1 on Jun 8, 2020 17:26:08 GMT 1, The common thread I’ve noticed through all the issues lately whether it’s race, politics, religion, is the near complete inability of opposing sides to see things from the others perspective. Far too often we believe and are adamant that we know for a fact why people behave or react the way they do, and it leaves us unable to find common ground. I know when I get cut off in traffic I’m convinced the guys a psychopath with no regard for others on the road. Where the truth is he was probably distracted, had a long day, or just didn’t see me. There’s always things we don’t know about others and what influences their actions. People can’t come to a fair conclusion about something or someone without all the information, yet strongly hold on to their beliefs despite not having all the information. I went to school for and have my Bachelors in Criminal Justice, but never became a cop. Too many things I don’t agree with that I couldn’t in good conscious enforce and arrest people for. That being said, lots of my classmates, some of whom were pretty good friends are currently police officers. I can’t think of a single one of them I’d have considered racist in the slightest. White, black, Indian, male, female, pretty diverse group I graduated with. Clearly there is an issue with police and their misuse of force in society. I think it requires a little more thought and effort than believing they are all, or a good part of them, are racists. Surely their are individual officers who hold racist beliefs, as there are with all groups/professions. Essentially stereotyping them as racist is just as unhelpful as any other stereotype. I think it really just boils down to the job. The vast majority of citizens that police encounter are not having their best days. Whether they’re the victims or the offenders, cops tend to interact with people at their worst. That’s not the say the individuals are the worst society has to offer, they’re just at a low point in their life. Whether they’re dealing with individuals being stopped for drugs, or someone who just got robbed, cops don’t see the best of humanity on a daily basis. Assuming the above is true, it wouldn’t be hard to believe that they can come to expect the worst of people, when the majority of what they encounter is negative. They may even respond differently based on where they are being called to. If being called in to shots fired in a neighborhood with high drug activity vs a rural area with hunters, it does make sense. If they responded with a blanket approach, not learning from experience about what to expect, their safety and others could be in danger. None of this is an excuse for police brutality. They should be held to a higher standard considering the importance of their job and the high stakes involved. But when people believe all police are violent and racist, and police believe all the people are criminals and out to get them, there is nowhere to go from there. Just an endless escalating cycle of violence and hate.
Helpful start would be to read the thread Thoroughly otherwise in your summary you are part of the problem you discuss
As you are referring to this thread and not the greater outside occurrences no one here is mentioning all cops are racist or are viewed the same
Your summary in explanation is the same as the present protests are trying to dislodge from the general consensus of thought that one persons inexcusable actions represent that of all the group that they belong to
That is your perception and as you described everyone views the matters towards their set mindset is set to with disregards to others opinions or perceptions
Opinions airs debate and individual thought is not to be discouraged , evidence and facts can sway opinions rather than just thought .
The common thread I’ve noticed through all the issues lately whether it’s race, politics, religion, is the near complete inability of opposing sides to see things from the others perspective. Far too often we believe and are adamant that we know for a fact why people behave or react the way they do, and it leaves us unable to find common ground. I know when I get cut off in traffic I’m convinced the guys a psychopath with no regard for others on the road. Where the truth is he was probably distracted, had a long day, or just didn’t see me. There’s always things we don’t know about others and what influences their actions. People can’t come to a fair conclusion about something or someone without all the information, yet strongly hold on to their beliefs despite not having all the information. I went to school for and have my Bachelors in Criminal Justice, but never became a cop. Too many things I don’t agree with that I couldn’t in good conscious enforce and arrest people for. That being said, lots of my classmates, some of whom were pretty good friends are currently police officers. I can’t think of a single one of them I’d have considered racist in the slightest. White, black, Indian, male, female, pretty diverse group I graduated with. Clearly there is an issue with police and their misuse of force in society. I think it requires a little more thought and effort than believing they are all, or a good part of them, are racists. Surely their are individual officers who hold racist beliefs, as there are with all groups/professions. Essentially stereotyping them as racist is just as unhelpful as any other stereotype. I think it really just boils down to the job. The vast majority of citizens that police encounter are not having their best days. Whether they’re the victims or the offenders, cops tend to interact with people at their worst. That’s not the say the individuals are the worst society has to offer, they’re just at a low point in their life. Whether they’re dealing with individuals being stopped for drugs, or someone who just got robbed, cops don’t see the best of humanity on a daily basis. Assuming the above is true, it wouldn’t be hard to believe that they can come to expect the worst of people, when the majority of what they encounter is negative. They may even respond differently based on where they are being called to. If being called in to shots fired in a neighborhood with high drug activity vs a rural area with hunters, it does make sense. If they responded with a blanket approach, not learning from experience about what to expect, their safety and others could be in danger. None of this is an excuse for police brutality. They should be held to a higher standard considering the importance of their job and the high stakes involved. But when people believe all police are violent and racist, and police believe all the people are criminals and out to get them, there is nowhere to go from there. Just an endless escalating cycle of violence and hate. Helpful start would be to read the thread Thoroughly otherwise in your summary you are part of the problem you discuss As you are referring to this thread and not the greater outside occurrences no one here is mentioning all cops are racist or are viewed the same Your summary in explanation is the same as the present protests are trying to dislodge from the general consensus of thought that one persons inexcusable actions represent that of all the group that they belong to That is your perception and as you described everyone views the matters towards their set mindset is set to with disregards to others opinions or perceptions Opinions airs debate and individual thought is not to be discouraged , evidence and facts can sway opinions rather than just thought . |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by H.R. on Jun 8, 2020 17:47:44 GMT 1, Hey tab1,
I don’t think he was accusing people on this forum of this. But here in the USA, I can tell you from being there first hand. The BLM movement has moved to defunding all police and I’ve watched as people spray paint the sidewalks, streets and building with “kill cops”. So although he’s not accusing anyone individually of that, the movement is growing into that. As now I’m reading nationwide people from BLM are calling for dismantling and defunding the police departments. Truth.
It’s not the answer. We need reform, but it doesn’t come through punishing and judging all as one, but that’s what is happening. The movement isn’t let’s take money away from a bad cop, it’s from all of them.
Fact is. We need cops. We just don’t need POS racist ones, sociopaths, psychopaths or any other deviants representing the force.
Right now we are punishing all cops for the bad apples. When it should, to your point, be about INDIVIDUALS. We need to root out the bad ones and create a more accountable policing system. That’s the answer.
Hey tab1,
I don’t think he was accusing people on this forum of this. But here in the USA, I can tell you from being there first hand. The BLM movement has moved to defunding all police and I’ve watched as people spray paint the sidewalks, streets and building with “kill cops”. So although he’s not accusing anyone individually of that, the movement is growing into that. As now I’m reading nationwide people from BLM are calling for dismantling and defunding the police departments. Truth.
It’s not the answer. We need reform, but it doesn’t come through punishing and judging all as one, but that’s what is happening. The movement isn’t let’s take money away from a bad cop, it’s from all of them.
Fact is. We need cops. We just don’t need POS racist ones, sociopaths, psychopaths or any other deviants representing the force.
Right now we are punishing all cops for the bad apples. When it should, to your point, be about INDIVIDUALS. We need to root out the bad ones and create a more accountable policing system. That’s the answer.
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by tab1 on Jun 8, 2020 17:51:58 GMT 1, I’m waiting for people’s emotions to settle and common since to kick in. I see a lot of disgust, hate and blind emotions driving them instead of the mush between their ears. I get it. But it’s not the answer. In order to fix discrimination within forces, we should be lobbying for reform and more monitoring with said forces. Mandatory body cams at all times. Hell, even at lunch if you’re on the street and not in your office. Hell, we have the tech that cops could wear vests that have several cams front and back with audio with almost no footprint. The tech is their, the money is not. 360 cams with audio on all cop cars and an independent team that reviews the use of violence. No off switches. Only backup cams in case yours stops working. And laws you can’t be on the job unless your cam is on and working and penalties if you’re working and it’s not on. I support BLM, I support protesting, but not the looting and destruction of people’s property in their community. That actually only molds the next generation of hate and racists. Would like to see those in power floating these ideas and working with the leaders of BLM to give their followers something of substance that can bring real change vs defunding the police which will only perpetuate the problem we all want to see go away. You can’t make it go away by defunding them. Only a fool would think otherwise. It’s like spanking every kid in the class because a few did something bad all the other kids disagreed with in the first place and then took away their lunch money so they couldn’t eat in the foreseeable future. That’s not the solution, that’s just misguided anger. Instigators that fan the flames are punk ass lil bitches. I’m Waiting for REAL leaders with real ideas that will work to step up vs fanning the flames of a known issue. These politicians in the USA should ALREADY be doing what I’m saying vs caving to anger. Have some backbone and address the issue. Fix it. Don’t take the easy way out like f**kingchildren. Wake up, Step up, Fix it. Don’t be cowards. No love for racists, looters or cowards.
All races are involved in The looting but as it is a black cause it will be beneficial to news stations to present black news footage , shocking headlines and coverage is what news channels want
Elections are coming up and the media is used to
Portray social issues and create division for votes , watch the upcoming commercials from statesmen regarding the issues .
In reference to the uk , the media use ethnic reporters to cover these news items ?
Why are not the regular white reporters covering these events ?
society creates division unknowingly .
In some states the original protests have been taken over and just used by members for their own personal gain looting from all races and cultures
The majority of these groups are 16-25 years of age
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I’m waiting for people’s emotions to settle and common since to kick in. I see a lot of disgust, hate and blind emotions driving them instead of the mush between their ears. I get it. But it’s not the answer. In order to fix discrimination within forces, we should be lobbying for reform and more monitoring with said forces. Mandatory body cams at all times. Hell, even at lunch if you’re on the street and not in your office. Hell, we have the tech that cops could wear vests that have several cams front and back with audio with almost no footprint. The tech is their, the money is not. 360 cams with audio on all cop cars and an independent team that reviews the use of violence. No off switches. Only backup cams in case yours stops working. And laws you can’t be on the job unless your cam is on and working and penalties if you’re working and it’s not on. I support BLM, I support protesting, but not the looting and destruction of people’s property in their community. That actually only molds the next generation of hate and racists. Would like to see those in power floating these ideas and working with the leaders of BLM to give their followers something of substance that can bring real change vs defunding the police which will only perpetuate the problem we all want to see go away. You can’t make it go away by defunding them. Only a fool would think otherwise. It’s like spanking every kid in the class because a few did something bad all the other kids disagreed with in the first place and then took away their lunch money so they couldn’t eat in the foreseeable future. That’s not the solution, that’s just misguided anger. Instigators that fan the flames are punk ass lil bitches. I’m Waiting for REAL leaders with real ideas that will work to step up vs fanning the flames of a known issue. These politicians in the USA should ALREADY be doing what I’m saying vs caving to anger. Have some backbone and address the issue. Fix it. Don’t take the easy way out like f**kingchildren. Wake up, Step up, Fix it. Don’t be cowards. No love for racists, looters or cowards. All races are involved in The looting but as it is a black cause it will be beneficial to news stations to present black news footage , shocking headlines and coverage is what news channels want Elections are coming up and the media is used to Portray social issues and create division for votes , watch the upcoming commercials from statesmen regarding the issues . In reference to the uk , the media use ethnic reporters to cover these news items ? Why are not the regular white reporters covering these events ? society creates division unknowingly . In some states the original protests have been taken over and just used by members for their own personal gain looting from all races and cultures The majority of these groups are 16-25 years of age www.liveleak.com/view?t=k3NzM_1591146398www.liveleak.com/view?t=9eIg0_1591331549www.liveleak.com/view?t=9Lrt_1590627602www.liveleak.com/view?t=a9L0S_1590887573www.liveleak.com/view?t=kDRZg_1590870880www.liveleak.com/view?t=aGJc9_1590722414www.liveleak.com/view?t=ke2zG_1591314741 |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by tab1 on Jun 8, 2020 17:58:57 GMT 1, Hey tab1, I don’t think he was accusing people on this forum of this. But here in the USA, I can tell you from being there first hand. The BLM movement has moved to defunding all police and I’ve watched as people spray paint the sidewalks, streets and building with “kill cops”. So although he’s not accusing anyone individually of that, the movement is growing into that. As now I’m reading nationwide people from BLM are calling for dismantling and defunding the police departments. Truth. It’s not the answer. We need reform, but it doesn’t come through punishing and judging all as one, but that’s what is happening. The movement isn’t let’s take money away from a bad cop, it’s from all of them. Fact is. We need cops. We just don’t need POS racist ones, sociopaths, psychopaths or any other deviants representing the force. Right now we are punishing all cops for the bad apples. When it should, to your point, be about INDIVIDUALS. We need to root out the bad ones and create a more accountable policing system. That’s the answer.
Differing of opinions would be had as we are an international forum and in the United Kingdom the protests are at a different angle as seen in America also the news coverage is very different Hence different perspectives leading discussions but opportunity Arises for members to bring facts / evidence to the debate to raise awareness and educate further around the situation rather than just Providing personal thoughts .
Hey tab1, I don’t think he was accusing people on this forum of this. But here in the USA, I can tell you from being there first hand. The BLM movement has moved to defunding all police and I’ve watched as people spray paint the sidewalks, streets and building with “kill cops”. So although he’s not accusing anyone individually of that, the movement is growing into that. As now I’m reading nationwide people from BLM are calling for dismantling and defunding the police departments. Truth. It’s not the answer. We need reform, but it doesn’t come through punishing and judging all as one, but that’s what is happening. The movement isn’t let’s take money away from a bad cop, it’s from all of them. Fact is. We need cops. We just don’t need POS racist ones, sociopaths, psychopaths or any other deviants representing the force. Right now we are punishing all cops for the bad apples. When it should, to your point, be about INDIVIDUALS. We need to root out the bad ones and create a more accountable policing system. That’s the answer. Differing of opinions would be had as we are an international forum and in the United Kingdom the protests are at a different angle as seen in America also the news coverage is very different Hence different perspectives leading discussions but opportunity Arises for members to bring facts / evidence to the debate to raise awareness and educate further around the situation rather than just Providing personal thoughts . |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by H.R. on Jun 8, 2020 18:10:10 GMT 1, No offense Tab1, but forums are about discussing our individual opinions on national and international events.
I think he was providing some insight from personal experience that was factual based on knowing multiple police officers. I don’t feel he was targeting anyone specifically, but addressing some blanket statements that are being floated in the media on both sides of the table.
It seems like you guys probably agree on more than you disagree.
I don’t think anyone of this forum disagrees that Black Lives Matter or police brutality needs to end. We just have different ideas on how to get there.
No offense Tab1, but forums are about discussing our individual opinions on national and international events.
I think he was providing some insight from personal experience that was factual based on knowing multiple police officers. I don’t feel he was targeting anyone specifically, but addressing some blanket statements that are being floated in the media on both sides of the table.
It seems like you guys probably agree on more than you disagree.
I don’t think anyone of this forum disagrees that Black Lives Matter or police brutality needs to end. We just have different ideas on how to get there.
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by Happy Shopper on Jun 8, 2020 18:10:47 GMT 1, In reference to the uk , the media use ethnic reporters to cover these news items ? Why are not the regular white reporters covering these events ? society creates division unknowingly .
I know CNN in London had a white, middle aged reporter on the street... and they had stuff thrown at them while trying to talk live on air... but this was late in the evening, when things were kicking off!
The BBC have used Chi Chi Izundu, and as far as I'm aware she's not had the same problem... but seems to have been kept far from any violence, and just covered the daytime, US embassy protests.
As far as I know they don't have "white, regular reporters" though. They're always pretty mixed (if that's a term I can use?  )
In reference to the uk , the media use ethnic reporters to cover these news items ? Why are not the regular white reporters covering these events ? society creates division unknowingly . I know CNN in London had a white, middle aged reporter on the street... and they had stuff thrown at them while trying to talk live on air... but this was late in the evening, when things were kicking off! The BBC have used Chi Chi Izundu, and as far as I'm aware she's not had the same problem... but seems to have been kept far from any violence, and just covered the daytime, US embassy protests. As far as I know they don't have "white, regular reporters" though. They're always pretty mixed (if that's a term I can use? ) |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by tab1 on Jun 8, 2020 18:15:22 GMT 1, In reference to the uk , the media use ethnic reporters to cover these news items ? Why are not the regular white reporters covering these events ? society creates division unknowingly . I know CNN in London had a white, middle aged reporter on the street... and they had stuff thrown at them while trying to talk live on air... but this was late in the evening, when things were kicking off! The BBC have used Chi Chi Izundu, and as far as I'm aware she's not had the same problem... but seems to have been kept far from any violence, and just covered the daytime, US embassy protests. As far as I know they don't have "white, regular reporters" though. They're always pretty mixed (if that's a term I can use? )
Not just specific to the physical protests just any events related to any different culture or ethnic / racial news story
Inclusivity rather than association should be met
In reference to the uk , the media use ethnic reporters to cover these news items ? Why are not the regular white reporters covering these events ? society creates division unknowingly . I know CNN in London had a white, middle aged reporter on the street... and they had stuff thrown at them while trying to talk live on air... but this was late in the evening, when things were kicking off! The BBC have used Chi Chi Izundu, and as far as I'm aware she's not had the same problem... but seems to have been kept far from any violence, and just covered the daytime, US embassy protests. As far as I know they don't have "white, regular reporters" though. They're always pretty mixed (if that's a term I can use? ) Not just specific to the physical protests just any events related to any different culture or ethnic / racial news story Inclusivity rather than association should be met |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by tab1 on Jun 8, 2020 20:32:23 GMT 1, No offense Tab1, but forums are about discussing our individual opinions on national and international events. I think he was providing some insight from personal experience that was factual based on knowing multiple police officers. I don’t feel he was targeting anyone specifically, but addressing some blanket statements that are being floated in the media on both sides of the table. It seems like you guys probably agree on more than you disagree. I don’t think anyone of this forum disagrees that Black Lives Matter or police brutality needs to end. We just have different ideas on how to get there.
I mention an international forum in the context we have members from all around the world so we need to be open to different interpretations and perceptions of the events taking place from each member as each different country will have a different view point to cultures and race and what news is presented to them by their home country media news
the member will be bias , the officers are his friends , grown up with them and is close and fond of them ,as noted by the meaningful heartfelt account , many people will not see bad traits in close friends , for example domestic violence is hidden , when bought to light in many cases these characters do not display untowardly traits around close acquaintances and their behaviour is hidden
some members behaviours here ,the obnoxious rants , sexist , homophobic , racist views , they will not produce the same conduct around their family and friends ? People change behaviour to circumstance , the closest person does not always see the true person with in .
many of these bad police officers are seen as wholesome good family members in everyday life but when in uniform a few become megalomaniacs
not saying it is the case here but many possibilities but a good friend will defend his friends character
just a few videos i have posted here where many officers stand by while witnessing an assault , why?
the protest would not be had if the unruly disportionate violence of police conduct was not met ,other officers in attendance had the chance to stop or report the misconduct but let it continue and now it has caused further segregation in communities as people do not understand the route cause.
common sense would dictate to follow the correct channels and report , petition the issues but this has caused no progress , unfortunately when chaos presents itself action is taken
ghandi protests started off peacefully momentum only gained and change occurred when became violent which enforced action , this should not be the case , governments are aware of issues but they do not tackle these issues and unfortunately these are the end results , in americas case 30 years ago issues were highlighted ? 30 years to tackle the problem yet nothing was done , there were countless reports of misconduct and petitions and peaceful protests over the course of 30 years so these protests have not sprung up over night , it is just in the past the general public did not care as these events were not effecting them , now with what is occurring everyone wants to know ?
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No offense Tab1, but forums are about discussing our individual opinions on national and international events. I think he was providing some insight from personal experience that was factual based on knowing multiple police officers. I don’t feel he was targeting anyone specifically, but addressing some blanket statements that are being floated in the media on both sides of the table. It seems like you guys probably agree on more than you disagree. I don’t think anyone of this forum disagrees that Black Lives Matter or police brutality needs to end. We just have different ideas on how to get there. 🙄I just said that , we might have mixed views as the news is presented differently around the world and In some cases members might experience events first hand I mention an international forum in the context we have members from all around the world so we need to be open to different interpretations and perceptions of the events taking place from each member as each different country will have a different view point to cultures and race and what news is presented to them by their home country media news the member will be bias , the officers are his friends , grown up with them and is close and fond of them ,as noted by the meaningful heartfelt account , many people will not see bad traits in close friends , for example domestic violence is hidden , when bought to light in many cases these characters do not display untowardly traits around close acquaintances and their behaviour is hidden some members behaviours here ,the obnoxious rants , sexist , homophobic , racist views , they will not produce the same conduct around their family and friends ? People change behaviour to circumstance , the closest person does not always see the true person with in . many of these bad police officers are seen as wholesome good family members in everyday life but when in uniform a few become megalomaniacs not saying it is the case here but many possibilities but a good friend will defend his friends character just a few videos i have posted here where many officers stand by while witnessing an assault , why? the protest would not be had if the unruly disportionate violence of police conduct was not met ,other officers in attendance had the chance to stop or report the misconduct but let it continue and now it has caused further segregation in communities as people do not understand the route cause. common sense would dictate to follow the correct channels and report , petition the issues but this has caused no progress , unfortunately when chaos presents itself action is taken ghandi protests started off peacefully momentum only gained and change occurred when became violent which enforced action , this should not be the case , governments are aware of issues but they do not tackle these issues and unfortunately these are the end results , in americas case 30 years ago issues were highlighted ? 30 years to tackle the problem yet nothing was done , there were countless reports of misconduct and petitions and peaceful protests over the course of 30 years so these protests have not sprung up over night , it is just in the past the general public did not care as these events were not effecting them , now with what is occurring everyone wants to know ? www.liveleak.com/view?t=uZtzw_1589329240 |
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by H.R. on Jun 8, 2020 21:03:42 GMT 1, No worries tab, I respect your opinions.
Why you ask? I imagine that like most things in life it’s different for each situation.
But, as someone who’s spent most of my life around groups of alpha males, I would say it always comes down to leadership. Top down theory so to speak.
Let’s take the Minneapolis police dept for example. Their dept in 5 yrs had 237 reported cases of suffocation used as a submission technique. Of those, 44 resulted in loss of consciousness. This brutality spanned all races with black and white people making up about 95% of all victims of this brutality. Both in being choked out and loss of consciousness.
I don’t believe it takes a rocket scientist to see that one, these were reported cases, actual cases most likely is much higher and two, that the captain of that dept had to be fully aware that this was happening, probably did the same when he was a beat cop. And if he wasn’t aware, he probably shouldn’t be in that position in the first place as the first thing in armed leadership is you are accountable for the people on your team and their actions, just as the captain should go down with the ship. That’s how honorable men react and act in such positions.
Soo, the real question is why did the captain allow 1 person a week to be choked out for 5 years that we know of and not do anything about it? Why is no one calling for accountability in leadership? Just blanket defunding the police and punishing all. Here in the USA and Minneapolis where this all kicked off anyways.
If I were the mayor/governor. My first steps would be replacing the captain of the dept and probably the commissioner too as they bear responsibility. I wouldn’t fathom defunding the dept. I’d shake things up,BIG TIME, tighten the reigns and put in place more transparency, monitoring tools as well as have sessions with cops to find out why they aren’t doing anything when this is happening.
From there I’d put in place new accountabilities as “see something, do something Or have nothing”. Meaning if you watch something like this go down and do nothing you are also going to terminated. I’d listen to not just what BLM has to say, but what the cops have to say and I’d ensure bodycams are on all of them, all of the time and failure to do so would have severe penalties, maybe starting with demotions to meter maid and loss of weaponry. I wouldn’t want to demoralize cops, but I would put in place measures that they either choose to do what’s right or they choose to be demoted or lose their job. It would be their call. It would result in flushing out the bullies and instilling a more people oriented dept.
Those are my thoughts. Lack of leadership and accountability is why this is happening. What frustrates me is why aren’t politicians sitting down and having these round tables right now and coming up with the things I speak of? I’ll tell you, their spineless POS that only care about one thing, re-election. Doing the right thing is hard and takes work. But that’s what honorable men do, but I don’t know of any honorable politicians. 🤷🏼♂️
No worries tab, I respect your opinions.
Why you ask? I imagine that like most things in life it’s different for each situation.
But, as someone who’s spent most of my life around groups of alpha males, I would say it always comes down to leadership. Top down theory so to speak.
Let’s take the Minneapolis police dept for example. Their dept in 5 yrs had 237 reported cases of suffocation used as a submission technique. Of those, 44 resulted in loss of consciousness. This brutality spanned all races with black and white people making up about 95% of all victims of this brutality. Both in being choked out and loss of consciousness.
I don’t believe it takes a rocket scientist to see that one, these were reported cases, actual cases most likely is much higher and two, that the captain of that dept had to be fully aware that this was happening, probably did the same when he was a beat cop. And if he wasn’t aware, he probably shouldn’t be in that position in the first place as the first thing in armed leadership is you are accountable for the people on your team and their actions, just as the captain should go down with the ship. That’s how honorable men react and act in such positions.
Soo, the real question is why did the captain allow 1 person a week to be choked out for 5 years that we know of and not do anything about it? Why is no one calling for accountability in leadership? Just blanket defunding the police and punishing all. Here in the USA and Minneapolis where this all kicked off anyways.
If I were the mayor/governor. My first steps would be replacing the captain of the dept and probably the commissioner too as they bear responsibility. I wouldn’t fathom defunding the dept. I’d shake things up,BIG TIME, tighten the reigns and put in place more transparency, monitoring tools as well as have sessions with cops to find out why they aren’t doing anything when this is happening.
From there I’d put in place new accountabilities as “see something, do something Or have nothing”. Meaning if you watch something like this go down and do nothing you are also going to terminated. I’d listen to not just what BLM has to say, but what the cops have to say and I’d ensure bodycams are on all of them, all of the time and failure to do so would have severe penalties, maybe starting with demotions to meter maid and loss of weaponry. I wouldn’t want to demoralize cops, but I would put in place measures that they either choose to do what’s right or they choose to be demoted or lose their job. It would be their call. It would result in flushing out the bullies and instilling a more people oriented dept.
Those are my thoughts. Lack of leadership and accountability is why this is happening. What frustrates me is why aren’t politicians sitting down and having these round tables right now and coming up with the things I speak of? I’ll tell you, their spineless POS that only care about one thing, re-election. Doing the right thing is hard and takes work. But that’s what honorable men do, but I don’t know of any honorable politicians. 🤷🏼♂️
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Banksy's Instagram - Black Lives Matter, by tab1 on Jun 8, 2020 21:28:40 GMT 1, No worries tab, I respect your opinions. Why you ask? I imagine that like most things in life it’s different for each situation. But, as someone who’s spent most of my life around groups of alpha males, I would say it always comes down to leadership. Top down theory so to speak. Let’s take the Minneapolis police dept for example. Their dept in 5 yrs had 237 reported cases of suffocation used as a submission technique. Of those, 44 resulted in loss of consciousness. This brutality spanned all races with black and white people making up about 95% of all victims of this brutality. Both in being choked out and loss of consciousness. I don’t believe it takes a rocket scientist to see that one, these were reported cases, actual cases most likely is much higher and two, that the captain of that dept had to be fully aware that this was happening, probably did the same when he was a beat cop. And if he wasn’t aware, he probably shouldn’t be in that position in the first place as the first thing in armed leadership is you are accountable for the people on your team and their actions, just as the captain should go down with the ship. That’s how honorable men react and act in such positions. Soo, the real question is why did the captain allow 1 person a week to be choked out for 5 years that we know of and not do anything about it? Why is no one calling for accountability in leadership? Just blanket defunding the police and punishing all. Here in the USA and Minneapolis where this all kicked off anyways. If I were the mayor/governor. My first steps would be replacing the captain of the dept and probably the commissioner too as they bear responsibility. I wouldn’t fathom defunding the dept. I’d shake things up,BIG TIME, tighten the reigns and put in place more transparency, monitoring tools as well as have sessions with cops to find out why they aren’t doing anything when this is happening. From there I’d put in place new accountabilities as “see something, do something Or have nothing”. Meaning if you watch something like this go down and do nothing you are also going to terminated. I’d listen to not just what BLM has to say, but what the cops have to say and I’d ensure bodycams are on all of them, all of the time and failure to do so would have severe penalties, maybe starting with demotions to meter maid and loss of weaponry. I wouldn’t want to demoralize cops, but I would put in place measures that they either choose to do what’s right or they choose to be demoted or lose their job. It would be their call. It would result in flushing out the bullies and instilling a more people oriented dept. Those are my thoughts. Lack of leadership and accountability is why this is happening. What frustrates me is why aren’t politicians sitting down and having these round tables right now and coming up with the things I speak of? I’ll tell you, their spineless POS that only care about one thing, re-election. Doing the right thing is hard and takes work. But that’s what honorable men do, but I don’t know of any honorable politicians. 🤷🏼♂️
the captain would have near 30 years experience so he would of revelled in the rough days , which many of these old timers ignore new work place legislation as they feel it is too soft !
there was no internet in the last riots , this time round with the use of the internet I suspect things may become worse
America is going to be hit really hard with new covid deaths soon
news.sky.com/story/george-floyd-death-man-arrested-after-driving-car-into-protesters-and-shooting-demonstrator-12002813
No worries tab, I respect your opinions. Why you ask? I imagine that like most things in life it’s different for each situation. But, as someone who’s spent most of my life around groups of alpha males, I would say it always comes down to leadership. Top down theory so to speak. Let’s take the Minneapolis police dept for example. Their dept in 5 yrs had 237 reported cases of suffocation used as a submission technique. Of those, 44 resulted in loss of consciousness. This brutality spanned all races with black and white people making up about 95% of all victims of this brutality. Both in being choked out and loss of consciousness. I don’t believe it takes a rocket scientist to see that one, these were reported cases, actual cases most likely is much higher and two, that the captain of that dept had to be fully aware that this was happening, probably did the same when he was a beat cop. And if he wasn’t aware, he probably shouldn’t be in that position in the first place as the first thing in armed leadership is you are accountable for the people on your team and their actions, just as the captain should go down with the ship. That’s how honorable men react and act in such positions. Soo, the real question is why did the captain allow 1 person a week to be choked out for 5 years that we know of and not do anything about it? Why is no one calling for accountability in leadership? Just blanket defunding the police and punishing all. Here in the USA and Minneapolis where this all kicked off anyways. If I were the mayor/governor. My first steps would be replacing the captain of the dept and probably the commissioner too as they bear responsibility. I wouldn’t fathom defunding the dept. I’d shake things up,BIG TIME, tighten the reigns and put in place more transparency, monitoring tools as well as have sessions with cops to find out why they aren’t doing anything when this is happening. From there I’d put in place new accountabilities as “see something, do something Or have nothing”. Meaning if you watch something like this go down and do nothing you are also going to terminated. I’d listen to not just what BLM has to say, but what the cops have to say and I’d ensure bodycams are on all of them, all of the time and failure to do so would have severe penalties, maybe starting with demotions to meter maid and loss of weaponry. I wouldn’t want to demoralize cops, but I would put in place measures that they either choose to do what’s right or they choose to be demoted or lose their job. It would be their call. It would result in flushing out the bullies and instilling a more people oriented dept. Those are my thoughts. Lack of leadership and accountability is why this is happening. What frustrates me is why aren’t politicians sitting down and having these round tables right now and coming up with the things I speak of? I’ll tell you, their spineless POS that only care about one thing, re-election. Doing the right thing is hard and takes work. But that’s what honorable men do, but I don’t know of any honorable politicians. 🤷🏼♂️ Correct lack of leadership , and most likely a bully in charge , filters down the ranks ! the captain would have near 30 years experience so he would of revelled in the rough days , which many of these old timers ignore new work place legislation as they feel it is too soft ! there was no internet in the last riots , this time round with the use of the internet I suspect things may become worse America is going to be hit really hard with new covid deaths soon news.sky.com/story/george-floyd-death-man-arrested-after-driving-car-into-protesters-and-shooting-demonstrator-12002813 |
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