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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by LJCal on Oct 21, 2020 20:20:29 GMT 1, Let’s be honest it’s a disappointing result and below expectations. Think we all know where the high water mark is now.
Let’s be honest it’s a disappointing result and below expectations. Think we all know where the high water mark is now.
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by Reader on Oct 21, 2020 20:21:05 GMT 1, Looking at this auction in context...I am actually fucking impressed by the result. Banksy has just out-sold Richter and JMB - both quality examples and bigger pieces. The iconic Riley was pulled (I assume because they didn’t have enough pre-auction registered interest.) We are indeed on the verge of a second covd wave in Europe and USA is in a pre-election mire... ...For a graffiti lad from Bristol to achieve that result at this time is indeed impressive.
Looking at this auction in context...I am actually fucking impressed by the result. Banksy has just out-sold Richter and JMB - both quality examples and bigger pieces. The iconic Riley was pulled (I assume because they didn’t have enough pre-auction registered interest.) We are indeed on the verge of a second covd wave in Europe and USA is in a pre-election mire... ...For a graffiti lad from Bristol to achieve that result at this time is indeed impressive. This ! It pretty much murdered some of the biggest institutionally validated names in contemporary art. From Turf War to Dismaland to NYC Residency to Walled Off to Bristol Museum to his street works and studio practice. No one to touch him really. Up there with Christo, Beuys, Hirst etc for sheer dogged determination to do it on his own terms. Got to respect it, whatever you think of his studio work. |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 20:26:08 GMT 1, What planet are people on that think this is disappointing? 7 milliiiooonnn fucking quid. Please tell me as I am happy to relocate.
What planet are people on that think this is disappointing? 7 milliiiooonnn fucking quid. Please tell me as I am happy to relocate.
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by iamzero on Oct 21, 2020 20:28:10 GMT 1, Oh no... I’m dumping my Peckham Rocks at £3.99 in 3...2...1...
Oh no... I’m dumping my Peckham Rocks at £3.99 in 3...2...1...
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by irl1 on Oct 21, 2020 20:28:56 GMT 1, Market is softening. Too much uncertainty before USA election, layoffs continuing to happen in large numbers, more coronavirus shutdowns in Europe, brexit, and the reality starting to settle in that we are going to be dealing with the virus for years if not indefinitely even after vaccines are proven effective and enough can be produced. I was suggesting 20m a month ago when this posted, but I've also been saying for months that October is when things will start to get bad. 
Market is softening. Too much uncertainty before USA election, layoffs continuing to happen in large numbers, more coronavirus shutdowns in Europe, brexit, and the reality starting to settle in that we are going to be dealing with the virus for years if not indefinitely even after vaccines are proven effective and enough can be produced. I was suggesting 20m a month ago when this posted, but I've also been saying for months that October is when things will start to get bad. We start a 6 week lockdown at midnight tonight in Ireland |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by JockoLad on Oct 21, 2020 20:29:01 GMT 1, My 2 pence Worth - I would consider this a poor result for the "Show Me The Monet" based on recent results and the peak price point set by "Monkey Parliament"at 12.2 USD. It did go above estimate, but as always the estimate is purposely low to encourage bidding. Many people in the so-called "know" were taking bets on it if would beat MP's result or even 20 mil USD and that was answered with a resounding NO. 8.4 million pounds for a painting by a living artist is nothing to sneeze at, but even the ultimate hype beast can't be happy with the result. Get prepared for the market to be flooded with high end Banksy works both privately and publicly due to todays result and sellers ready to hedge their bets after rejecting very high private sale offers the past 30 - 60 days. It seems that ironically the phrase "SHOW ME THE MONEY" has all new meaning on 10/21/20, than it did on 10/20/20. Let the real Hunger Games begin and "May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favor" 
My 2 pence Worth - I would consider this a poor result for the "Show Me The Monet" based on recent results and the peak price point set by "Monkey Parliament"at 12.2 USD. It did go above estimate, but as always the estimate is purposely low to encourage bidding. Many people in the so-called "know" were taking bets on it if would beat MP's result or even 20 mil USD and that was answered with a resounding NO. 8.4 million pounds for a painting by a living artist is nothing to sneeze at, but even the ultimate hype beast can't be happy with the result. Get prepared for the market to be flooded with high end Banksy works both privately and publicly due to todays result and sellers ready to hedge their bets after rejecting very high private sale offers the past 30 - 60 days. It seems that ironically the phrase "SHOW ME THE MONEY" has all new meaning on 10/21/20, than it did on 10/20/20. Let the real Hunger Games begin and "May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favor" To be fair you called it in 2008 when Flags sold for £620 on eBay. You were spot in your prediction that the market was levelling off. |
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Winter
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by Winter on Oct 21, 2020 20:29:45 GMT 1, I think people have lost all perspective. The fact Banksy is rivalling JMB at auction is a very big deal.
I think people have lost all perspective. The fact Banksy is rivalling JMB at auction is a very big deal.
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by kfroms on Oct 21, 2020 20:33:28 GMT 1, Looking at this auction in context...I am actually fucking impressed by the result. Banksy has just out-sold Richter and JMB - both quality examples and bigger pieces. The iconic Riley was pulled (I assume because they didn’t have enough pre-auction registered interest.) We are indeed on the verge of a second covd wave in Europe and USA is in a pre-election mire... ...For a graffiti lad from Bristol to achieve that result at this time is indeed impressive.
Yes, Riley got pulled as too little pre-sale interest at the aggressive estimate.
Overall a very soft sale. Curious to see what happens at Christie's tomorrow.
Looking at this auction in context...I am actually fucking impressed by the result. Banksy has just out-sold Richter and JMB - both quality examples and bigger pieces. The iconic Riley was pulled (I assume because they didn’t have enough pre-auction registered interest.) We are indeed on the verge of a second covd wave in Europe and USA is in a pre-election mire... ...For a graffiti lad from Bristol to achieve that result at this time is indeed impressive. He has 'out-sold' them but then, both the JMB and Richter were not their best and a 'great' Banksy canvas only shows up in a blue moon ( until now ) Yes, Riley got pulled as too little pre-sale interest at the aggressive estimate. Overall a very soft sale. Curious to see what happens at Christie's tomorrow. |
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Winter
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by Winter on Oct 21, 2020 20:34:01 GMT 1, I think people have lost all perspective. The fact Banksy is rivalling JMB at auction is a very big deal. What Banksy piece sold for over 100 million?
I was referring to the Basquiat that was in the same auction
I think people have lost all perspective. The fact Banksy is rivalling JMB at auction is a very big deal. What Banksy piece sold for over 100 million? I was referring to the Basquiat that was in the same auction |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by tonys on Oct 21, 2020 20:36:01 GMT 1, Banksy outstripping Hirst in terms of sales value. Cast a long shadow selling for the price of a Banksy print.. Falling v Rising stars etc etc etc
Banksy outstripping Hirst in terms of sales value. Cast a long shadow selling for the price of a Banksy print.. Falling v Rising stars etc etc etc
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Winter
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by Winter on Oct 21, 2020 20:36:44 GMT 1, Looking at this auction in context...I am actually fucking impressed by the result. Banksy has just out-sold Richter and JMB - both quality examples and bigger pieces. The iconic Riley was pulled (I assume because they didn’t have enough pre-auction registered interest.) We are indeed on the verge of a second covd wave in Europe and USA is in a pre-election mire... ...For a graffiti lad from Bristol to achieve that result at this time is indeed impressive. He has 'out-sold' them but then, both the JMB and Richter were not their best and a 'great' Banksy canvas only shows up in a blue moon ( until now ) Yes, Riley got pulled as too little pre-sale interest at the aggressive estimate. Overall a very soft sale. Curious to see what happens at Christie's tomorrow.
I think the Banksy was weak. Not a classic image and badly painted in the flesh. More about the concept than the execution.
Looking at this auction in context...I am actually fucking impressed by the result. Banksy has just out-sold Richter and JMB - both quality examples and bigger pieces. The iconic Riley was pulled (I assume because they didn’t have enough pre-auction registered interest.) We are indeed on the verge of a second covd wave in Europe and USA is in a pre-election mire... ...For a graffiti lad from Bristol to achieve that result at this time is indeed impressive. He has 'out-sold' them but then, both the JMB and Richter were not their best and a 'great' Banksy canvas only shows up in a blue moon ( until now ) Yes, Riley got pulled as too little pre-sale interest at the aggressive estimate. Overall a very soft sale. Curious to see what happens at Christie's tomorrow. I think the Banksy was weak. Not a classic image and badly painted in the flesh. More about the concept than the execution. |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by Rubberneck on Oct 21, 2020 20:40:43 GMT 1, The seller picked it up for about £50k, bet they’re still celebrating.
The seller picked it up for about £50k, bet they’re still celebrating.
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by sl on Oct 21, 2020 20:41:39 GMT 1, Let’s also keep in mind that MP was a vastly larger work and better known.
Plus it was a true original not a re-work that was very topical for when it was sold.
The fact that it beat the result of an original JMB by such a large margin is stunning and firmly plants him as one of the greatest.
Those that are now start selling prints and originals will enjoy the results and there will be no shortage of willing buyers eager to add a Banksy to their collection.
Let’s also keep in mind that MP was a vastly larger work and better known.
Plus it was a true original not a re-work that was very topical for when it was sold.
The fact that it beat the result of an original JMB by such a large margin is stunning and firmly plants him as one of the greatest.
Those that are now start selling prints and originals will enjoy the results and there will be no shortage of willing buyers eager to add a Banksy to their collection.
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by tonys on Oct 21, 2020 20:42:56 GMT 1, The seller picked it up for about £50k, bet they’re still celebrating.
The seller picked it up for about £50k, bet they’re still celebrating. I was going to post elsewhere, but do we know the sale price of the original 'Crude Oils'? |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by flat_line on Oct 21, 2020 20:43:54 GMT 1, Banksy outstripping Hirst in terms of sales value. Cast a long shadow selling for the price of a Banksy print.. Falling v Rising stars etc etc etc
Keep on thinking tho what Damien’s Banksy collection must be worth now
Banksy outstripping Hirst in terms of sales value. Cast a long shadow selling for the price of a Banksy print.. Falling v Rising stars etc etc etc Keep on thinking tho what Damien’s Banksy collection must be worth now |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by tonys on Oct 21, 2020 20:46:39 GMT 1, Banksy outstripping Hirst in terms of sales value. Cast a long shadow selling for the price of a Banksy print.. Falling v Rising stars etc etc etc Keep on thinking tho what Damien’s Banksy collection must be worth now
Banksy outstripping Hirst in terms of sales value. Cast a long shadow selling for the price of a Banksy print.. Falling v Rising stars etc etc etc Keep on thinking tho what Damien’s Banksy collection must be worth now When Hirst showed off his collection at the Serpentine BITD, was there any Banksy in there? I can't remember |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by flat_line on Oct 21, 2020 20:50:00 GMT 1, Keep on thinking tho what Damien’s Banksy collection must be worth now When Hirst showed off his collection at the Serpentine BITD, was there any Banksy in there? I can't remember
I’m pretty sure he owns an AP of every print, and I thought he was one of his early benefactors and bought pretty much one entire show. I’m sure someone will know...
Keep on thinking tho what Damien’s Banksy collection must be worth now When Hirst showed off his collection at the Serpentine BITD, was there any Banksy in there? I can't remember I’m pretty sure he owns an AP of every print, and I thought he was one of his early benefactors and bought pretty much one entire show. I’m sure someone will know... |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by tonys on Oct 21, 2020 20:52:28 GMT 1, Naplam (Original) was on display, but for the life of me I can't remember what else.
He got in early re. Banksy for sure. Whether he collects his prints tho I'm not that sure.
Naplam (Original) was on display, but for the life of me I can't remember what else.
He got in early re. Banksy for sure. Whether he collects his prints tho I'm not that sure.
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by jp on Oct 21, 2020 20:53:00 GMT 1, When Hirst showed off his collection at the Serpentine BITD, was there any Banksy in there? I can't remember I’m pretty sure he owns an AP of every print, and I thought he was one of his early benefactors and bought pretty much one entire show. I’m sure someone will know...
Regarding your last comment above, I always thought Hirst bought out every Paul Insect work at a show back in 2006-2007, not Banksy, but I could have that wrong. It was a long time ago...
When Hirst showed off his collection at the Serpentine BITD, was there any Banksy in there? I can't remember I’m pretty sure he owns an AP of every print, and I thought he was one of his early benefactors and bought pretty much one entire show. I’m sure someone will know... I've always wondered how much (if any) role Hirst has played in manipulating the Banksy market. He would certainly have a vested interest. Regarding your last comment above, I always thought Hirst bought out every Paul Insect work at a show back in 2006-2007, not Banksy, but I could have that wrong. It was a long time ago... |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by tonys on Oct 21, 2020 20:55:43 GMT 1, why would you suggest he 'manipulated' the market?
why would you suggest he 'manipulated' the market?
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by sl on Oct 21, 2020 21:01:38 GMT 1, Not sure if it has been mentioned before but if you like this image and didn’t win this at auction 😀 the same image is also in the crude oils postcard set.
Not sure if it has been mentioned before but if you like this image and didn’t win this at auction 😀 the same image is also in the crude oils postcard set.
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by tab1 on Oct 21, 2020 21:06:41 GMT 1, I’m pretty sure he owns an AP of every print, and I thought he was one of his early benefactors and bought pretty much one entire show. I’m sure someone will know... I've always wondered how much (if any) role Hirst has played in manipulating the Banksy market. He would certainly have a vested interest. Regarding your last comment above, I always thought Hirst bought out every Paul Insect work at a show back in 2006-2007, not Banksy, but I could have that wrong. It was a long time ago...
Banksy will soon have hirsts market
I’m pretty sure he owns an AP of every print, and I thought he was one of his early benefactors and bought pretty much one entire show. I’m sure someone will know... I've always wondered how much (if any) role Hirst has played in manipulating the Banksy market. He would certainly have a vested interest. Regarding your last comment above, I always thought Hirst bought out every Paul Insect work at a show back in 2006-2007, not Banksy, but I could have that wrong. It was a long time ago... Banksy will soon have hirsts market |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by Coach on Oct 21, 2020 21:10:52 GMT 1, Banksy outstripping Hirst in terms of sales value. Cast a long shadow selling for the price of a Banksy print.. Falling v Rising stars etc etc etc Keep on thinking tho what Damien’s Banksy collection must be worth now
Only a fraction of his property portfolio.
Banksy outstripping Hirst in terms of sales value. Cast a long shadow selling for the price of a Banksy print.. Falling v Rising stars etc etc etc Keep on thinking tho what Damien’s Banksy collection must be worth now Only a fraction of his property portfolio. |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by theclash on Oct 21, 2020 21:13:15 GMT 1, Market is softening. Too much uncertainty before USA election, layoffs continuing to happen in large numbers, more coronavirus shutdowns in Europe, brexit, and the reality starting to settle in that we are going to be dealing with the virus for years if not indefinitely even after vaccines are proven effective and enough can be produced. I was suggesting 20m a month ago when this posted, but I've also been saying for months that October is when things will start to get bad. We start a 6 week lockdown at midnight tonight in Ireland
6 weeks, fook
Market is softening. Too much uncertainty before USA election, layoffs continuing to happen in large numbers, more coronavirus shutdowns in Europe, brexit, and the reality starting to settle in that we are going to be dealing with the virus for years if not indefinitely even after vaccines are proven effective and enough can be produced. I was suggesting 20m a month ago when this posted, but I've also been saying for months that October is when things will start to get bad. We start a 6 week lockdown at midnight tonight in Ireland 6 weeks, fook |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by reg on Oct 21, 2020 21:13:43 GMT 1, Monkey Parliament went for £10m but bear in mind what a whopping size of piece it is. Absolutely massive, practically the size of the side of a house.
Considering its size, £7m is a stunning price for SMTM in my book.
Monkey Parliament went for £10m but bear in mind what a whopping size of piece it is. Absolutely massive, practically the size of the side of a house.
Considering its size, £7m is a stunning price for SMTM in my book.
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by FЯ on Oct 21, 2020 21:14:14 GMT 1,
His whatsapp group broke up.
He now has to apply to join coachclub7
His whatsapp group broke up. He now has to apply to join coachclub7 |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by acaipride on Oct 21, 2020 21:17:51 GMT 1,
UAA's Jim Cramer l o l
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by irl1 on Oct 21, 2020 21:23:08 GMT 1, What planet are people on that think this is disappointing? 7 milliiiooonnn fucking quid. Please tell me as I am happy to relocate. 
What planet are people on that think this is disappointing? 7 milliiiooonnn fucking quid. Please tell me as I am happy to relocate. lv and artdelight to name but a few |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by poofly on Oct 21, 2020 21:31:01 GMT 1, I’m pretty sure he owns an AP of every print, and I thought he was one of his early benefactors and bought pretty much one entire show. I’m sure someone will know... I've always wondered how much (if any) role Hirst has played in manipulating the Banksy market. He would certainly have a vested interest. Regarding your last comment above, I always thought Hirst bought out every Paul Insect work at a show back in 2006-2007, not Banksy, but I could have that wrong. It was a long time ago...
I’m pretty sure he owns an AP of every print, and I thought he was one of his early benefactors and bought pretty much one entire show. I’m sure someone will know... I've always wondered how much (if any) role Hirst has played in manipulating the Banksy market. He would certainly have a vested interest. Regarding your last comment above, I always thought Hirst bought out every Paul Insect work at a show back in 2006-2007, not Banksy, but I could have that wrong. It was a long time ago... I do remember being told by Laz that Hirst bought most of the Micallef show that they put on years back |
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Banksy - Show Me The Monet, by medichead on Oct 21, 2020 21:31:59 GMT 1, This was a predictable result for a piece that is good example of Banksy’s humour, but not as impressive in concept, scale, execution, or timelessness as Devolved Parliament.
Anyone who expected anything else is blindly, perhaps delusionally optimistic about the art market...
This is a very good result for the seller and team Banksy
This was a predictable result for a piece that is good example of Banksy’s humour, but not as impressive in concept, scale, execution, or timelessness as Devolved Parliament.
Anyone who expected anything else is blindly, perhaps delusionally optimistic about the art market...
This is a very good result for the seller and team Banksy
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