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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 13:26:35 GMT 1,
Question for you Ben: do you think the one found seems real?
What are you talking about Lroy? I am a big collector of Banksy and many other artists. I signed up for the first time on this site a few days ago. My name is Ben G... Keep your stupid opinions to yourself. I was hesitant to add, but thought I would help out where I can. Not wasting any more time on this if people are going to ask stupid questions. Have a good day.
Question for you Ben: do you think the one found seems real? What are you talking about Lroy? I am a big collector of Banksy and many other artists. I signed up for the first time on this site a few days ago. My name is Ben G... Keep your stupid opinions to yourself. I was hesitant to add, but thought I would help out where I can. Not wasting any more time on this if people are going to ask stupid questions. Have a good day. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by NYart on Jan 12, 2021 13:32:19 GMT 1, The correct type of canvas has me convinced. Thanks for sharing
The correct type of canvas has me convinced. Thanks for sharing
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by Lroy on Jan 12, 2021 13:33:20 GMT 1, Why are you so agressive ?!
Stupid questions ? Who are you to talk to me as this ?! I Thought that you were the poster ( some people are waiting for the Pest control issue ) a,d taht you have had the COA?? That's all ! I even told you congrats !
I known a Ben G that was friend with me on Facebook, are you still ?
Anyway I don't care, I made a mistake surely, I don't care of all these accounts, I just now don't understand why you post this on the thread of the poster ?... I have no god, no master, sir. And I don't care about the power of money. " stupid questions " tsss...
Ok, I apologise if I came across aggressive but I don't appreciate your question or the fact I had 6 posts. Everyone has to start on this site at some point. I have gone out of my way to hopefully shed some light on this thread. I'm new to this and thought I posted in the right place, where the title is 'Banksy Keep it Real small canvas'. I am not your friend and know nobody on this site, neither do I have Facebook. By the way you do care about the power of money, hence your first question are you rich? Yes, I'm rich in love, life, happiness and presence. If the work ever gets sold I have more ยฃ. Big woop. If anyone wants any further clarification or guidance i'm here to help as much as I can. I've collected Banksy for since 2008 and have canvases/crudes/cardboard/prints e.t.c Have a good day and god bless I have apologized too. Speaking about Banksy ' s art is so seirous sometimes, I guess the man is not like that.
Anway, If I spoke about power of Money or collectors, it's because I felt humiliated, and felt condescension and contempt, and got pissed off, that's all. Now all is ok, don't act.
- As for the 6 comments or others, I am not the only one to doubt, and this is indeed a recurring problem - we have had the case in the past with trolls (not you of course), this which can give a little paranoia. If the moderators did the housework ...
Anyway, let's go back to our sheep and very nice work by Banksy, well done. Great !
Why are you so agressive ?!
Stupid questions ? Who are you to talk to me as this ?! I Thought that you were the poster ( some people are waiting for the Pest control issue ) a,d taht you have had the COA?? That's all ! I even told you congrats !
I known a Ben G that was friend with me on Facebook, are you still ?
Anyway I don't care, I made a mistake surely, I don't care of all these accounts, I just now don't understand why you post this on the thread of the poster ?... I have no god, no master, sir. And I don't care about the power of money. " stupid questions " tsss...
Ok, I apologise if I came across aggressive but I don't appreciate your question or the fact I had 6 posts. Everyone has to start on this site at some point. I have gone out of my way to hopefully shed some light on this thread. I'm new to this and thought I posted in the right place, where the title is 'Banksy Keep it Real small canvas'. I am not your friend and know nobody on this site, neither do I have Facebook. By the way you do care about the power of money, hence your first question are you rich? Yes, I'm rich in love, life, happiness and presence. If the work ever gets sold I have more ยฃ. Big woop. If anyone wants any further clarification or guidance i'm here to help as much as I can. I've collected Banksy for since 2008 and have canvases/crudes/cardboard/prints e.t.c Have a good day and god bless I have apologized too. Speaking about Banksy ' s art is so seirous sometimes, I guess the man is not like that.
Anway, If I spoke about power of Money or collectors, it's because I felt humiliated, and felt condescension and contempt, and got pissed off, that's all. Now all is ok, don't act.
- As for the 6 comments or others, I am not the only one to doubt, and this is indeed a recurring problem - we have had the case in the past with trolls (not you of course), this which can give a little paranoia. If the moderators did the housework ...
Anyway, let's go back to our sheep and very nice work by Banksy, well done. Great !
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by Lroy on Jan 12, 2021 13:35:08 GMT 1, Great piece Ben and thank you for your contribution and pictures. I agree that the frame looks real @lroy brother you need to calm down...
Great piece Ben and thank you for your contribution and pictures. I agree that the frame looks real @lroy brother you need to calm down... erm.... You did not read well as well or did not want to read well... Calm down ?! I am not a baby. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by lv90210 on Jan 12, 2021 13:35:58 GMT 1, Great piece Ben and thank you for your contribution and pictures. I agree that the frame looks real @lroy brother you need to calm down... erm.... You did not read well as well or did not want to read well... Calm down ?! I am not a baby.
Great piece Ben and thank you for your contribution and pictures. I agree that the frame looks real @lroy brother you need to calm down... erm.... You did not read well as well or did not want to read well... Calm down ?! I am not a baby. stop smoking crack.... its bad for you. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by eyectopus on Jan 12, 2021 13:40:49 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing this. I am more convinced now that the other one is not real. Although I would love if it was.
Thanks for sharing this. I am more convinced now that the other one is not real. Although I would love if it was.
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by NYart on Jan 12, 2021 13:46:10 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing this. I am more convinced now that the other one is not real. Although I would love if it was.
Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas.
Thanks for sharing this. I am more convinced now that the other one is not real. Although I would love if it was. Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by kuni on Jan 12, 2021 13:49:42 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing this. I am more convinced now that the other one is not real. Although I would love if it was. Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas.
A lot of similarities in the canvas and frame, but the OP doesn't have a number on it like the real one...it looks like the number was written directly onto the frame which could have either faded or wiped away.
Thanks for sharing this. I am more convinced now that the other one is not real. Although I would love if it was. Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas. A lot of similarities in the canvas and frame, but the OP doesn't have a number on it like the real one...it looks like the number was written directly onto the frame which could have either faded or wiped away. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by NYart on Jan 12, 2021 13:53:30 GMT 1, Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas. A lot of similarities in the canvas and frame, but the OP doesn't have a number on it like the real one...it looks like the number was written directly onto the frame which could have either faded or wiped away.
If it even was editioned, if it was a different stencil who knows if it was a test piece or what.
Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas. A lot of similarities in the canvas and frame, but the OP doesn't have a number on it like the real one...it looks like the number was written directly onto the frame which could have either faded or wiped away. If it even was editioned, if it was a different stencil who knows if it was a test piece or what. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by eyectopus on Jan 12, 2021 14:07:15 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing this. I am more convinced now that the other one is not real. Although I would love if it was. Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas.
The OPs one looks painted rather than sprayed. There doesn't seem to be craquelure either and the front is too clean.
Thanks for sharing this. I am more convinced now that the other one is not real. Although I would love if it was. Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas. The OPs one looks painted rather than sprayed. There doesn't seem to be craquelure either and the front is too clean. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by NYart on Jan 12, 2021 14:21:06 GMT 1, Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas. The OPs one looks painted rather than sprayed. There doesn't seem to be craquelure either and the front is too clean.
I wouldnโt place much weight on the cleanliness, wouldโve been easier to gently clean the front with some water than the reverse. Whether or not it is hand painted is a flag, but canโt rule out it being legitimate even if hand painted. Maybe Iโm just placing too much weight on the canvas but I feel even if I knew what the correct canvas should be, and tried to track it down to paint a fake Iโd have a hell of a time. Having the correct canvas and a good enough painting that all of us whoโve seen tons of crappy fakes over the wonder if it could be legit.. seems like a winner.
Really? I think itโs more likely a different stencil was used than a hobbyists making his own copy just so happened to find the same exact type of canvas. The OPs one looks painted rather than sprayed. There doesn't seem to be craquelure either and the front is too clean. I wouldnโt place much weight on the cleanliness, wouldโve been easier to gently clean the front with some water than the reverse. Whether or not it is hand painted is a flag, but canโt rule out it being legitimate even if hand painted. Maybe Iโm just placing too much weight on the canvas but I feel even if I knew what the correct canvas should be, and tried to track it down to paint a fake Iโd have a hell of a time. Having the correct canvas and a good enough painting that all of us whoโve seen tons of crappy fakes over the wonder if it could be legit.. seems like a winner. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by Lroy on Jan 12, 2021 14:34:04 GMT 1, erm.... You did not read well as well or did not want to read well... Calm down ?! I am not a baby. stop smoking crack.... its bad for you. ?! stop bullying
erm.... You did not read well as well or did not want to read well... Calm down ?! I am not a baby. stop smoking crack.... its bad for you. ?! stop bullying
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by jamieb on Jan 12, 2021 14:38:59 GMT 1, Don't think it's too hard to find the canvas. 5 minutes on google and I found these.
Come in every size imaginable - including, size: 10" x 8" / 25.4cm x 20.3cm
Don't think it's too hard to find the canvas. 5 minutes on google and I found these. Come in every size imaginable - including, size: 10" x 8" / 25.4cm x 20.3cm |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by andypandy on Jan 12, 2021 14:55:36 GMT 1, Look at them side by side and they look completely different.
The one that was from boot sale has no legs etc and the stencil looks different (the face, the lettering)
were these all sprayed from different stencils?
The only thing one could say was that it could have been one of the number that were disregarded...
Look at them side by side and they look completely different.
The one that was from boot sale has no legs etc and the stencil looks different (the face, the lettering)
were these all sprayed from different stencils?
The only thing one could say was that it could have been one of the number that were disregarded...
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 14:58:26 GMT 1, Great piece Ben and thank you for your contribution and pictures. I agree that the frame looks real @lroy brother you need to calm down... erm.... You did not read well as well or did not want to read well... Calm down ?! I am not a baby.
Great piece Ben and thank you for your contribution and pictures. I agree that the frame looks real @lroy brother you need to calm down... erm.... You did not read well as well or did not want to read well... Calm down ?! I am not a baby. Je lis l'ami je lis, mais parfois tu ne te rends pas compte que tes reponses peuvent paraitre agressives alors que l'erreur etait de toi... ce contributeur n'etait pas l'auteur de la thread et voulait simplement contribuer a une comparaison, pour notre plus grand plaisir a tous. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 15:01:00 GMT 1, any tech savvy geek can make a pic side by side. have to agree they are too different although i would love as well that story to be true.
any tech savvy geek can make a pic side by side. have to agree they are too different although i would love as well that story to be true.
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by Terry Fuckwitt on Jan 12, 2021 15:02:44 GMT 1, Look at them side by side and they look completely different. The one that was from boot sale has no legs etc and the stencil looks different (the face, the lettering) were these all sprayed from different stencils? The only thing one could say was that it could have been one of the number that were disregarded...
Look at them side by side and they look completely different. The one that was from boot sale has no legs etc and the stencil looks different (the face, the lettering) were these all sprayed from different stencils? The only thing one could say was that it could have been one of the number that were disregarded... There were different versions and sizes of these |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by andypandy on Jan 12, 2021 15:11:20 GMT 1, Look at them side by side and they look completely different. The one that was from boot sale has no legs etc and the stencil looks different (the face, the lettering) were these all sprayed from different stencils? The only thing one could say was that it could have been one of the number that were disregarded... There were different versions and sizes of these 
Look at them side by side and they look completely different. The one that was from boot sale has no legs etc and the stencil looks different (the face, the lettering) were these all sprayed from different stencils? The only thing one could say was that it could have been one of the number that were disregarded... There were different versions and sizes of these F**k me, the plot thickens..... |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by jamieb on Jan 12, 2021 15:19:32 GMT 1, any tech savvy geek can make a pic side by side. have to agree they are too different although i would love as well that story to be true.
any tech savvy geek can make a pic side by side. have to agree they are too different although i would love as well that story to be true. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by andypandy on Jan 12, 2021 15:26:55 GMT 1, This is starting to do my nut in
so the artist stopped making these and we don't know for sure how many of the 15 were finished?
the one with the COA above doesn't look like any of the 5 in the photo from terryf**kwitt (in my eyes the boot sale one now actually looks more similar to the image from the show)
The one in the middle has different writing from the one with COA
This is starting to do my nut in
so the artist stopped making these and we don't know for sure how many of the 15 were finished?
the one with the COA above doesn't look like any of the 5 in the photo from terryf**kwitt (in my eyes the boot sale one now actually looks more similar to the image from the show)
The one in the middle has different writing from the one with COA
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 15:37:46 GMT 1, am no expert but the frame is the closest if not sole similarity between the two canvases.
any tech savvy geek can make a pic side by side. have to agree they are too different although i would love as well that story to be true.
am no expert but the frame is the closest if not sole similarity between the two canvases. any tech savvy geek can make a pic side by side. have to agree they are too different although i would love as well that story to be true. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by gimmeabreak on Jan 12, 2021 15:40:37 GMT 1, may want to delete the detailed pictures of the real one in case it aids forgers down the line. looks like the garage boot one isn't real, but a decent fake and fun adventure nonetheless.
may want to delete the detailed pictures of the real one in case it aids forgers down the line. looks like the garage boot one isn't real, but a decent fake and fun adventure nonetheless.
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by LonelyFarmer on Jan 12, 2021 16:05:16 GMT 1, There were different versions and sizes of these
There were different versions and sizes of these Indeed, and some varying red shades too. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by Charlesworth on Jan 12, 2021 16:15:08 GMT 1, erm.... You did not read well as well or did not want to read well... Calm down ?! I am not a baby. stop smoking crack.... its bad for you.
erm.... You did not read well as well or did not want to read well... Calm down ?! I am not a baby. stop smoking crack.... its bad for you. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by jamieb on Jan 12, 2021 16:17:49 GMT 1, If you showed me the car boot one and the one with PC POA for the first time today and asked me which was painted 18 years I would say the car boot one.
The one with POA honestly looks like it could have been painted yesterday and is a pristine as the day it was painted.
I am not infering anything by this at all, just that's it's mad how different things can look.
If you showed me the car boot one and the one with PC POA for the first time today and asked me which was painted 18 years I would say the car boot one.
The one with POA honestly looks like it could have been painted yesterday and is a pristine as the day it was painted.
I am not infering anything by this at all, just that's it's mad how different things can look.
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by Lroy on Jan 12, 2021 16:32:34 GMT 1, erm.... You did not read well as well or did not want to read well... Calm down ?! I am not a baby. Je lis l'ami je lis, mais parfois tu ne te rends pas compte que tes reponses peuvent paraitre agressives alors que l'erreur etait de toi... ce contributeur n'etait pas l'auteur de la thread et voulait simplement contribuer a une comparaison, pour notre plus grand plaisir a tous. Certes, mais tout le monde a dรป penser la mรชme chose que moi et je me suis expliquรฉ, excusรฉ etc.. so je peux pas faire plus. Chacun attendait la rรฉponse du rรฉel posteur...
erm.... You did not read well as well or did not want to read well... Calm down ?! I am not a baby. Je lis l'ami je lis, mais parfois tu ne te rends pas compte que tes reponses peuvent paraitre agressives alors que l'erreur etait de toi... ce contributeur n'etait pas l'auteur de la thread et voulait simplement contribuer a une comparaison, pour notre plus grand plaisir a tous. Certes, mais tout le monde a dรป penser la mรชme chose que moi et je me suis expliquรฉ, excusรฉ etc.. so je peux pas faire plus. Chacun attendait la rรฉponse du rรฉel posteur...
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by Majestic on Jan 12, 2021 16:41:00 GMT 1, If you showed me the car boot one and the one with PC POA for the first time today and asked me which was painted 18 years I would say the car boot one. The one with POA honestly looks like it could have been painted yesterday and is a pristine as the day it was painted. I am not infering anything by this at all, just that's it's mad how different things can look.
I understand your point but the certified one doesn't exactly look pristine. The paint is cracking all over.
If you showed me the car boot one and the one with PC POA for the first time today and asked me which was painted 18 years I would say the car boot one. The one with POA honestly looks like it could have been painted yesterday and is a pristine as the day it was painted. I am not infering anything by this at all, just that's it's mad how different things can look. I understand your point but the certified one doesn't exactly look pristine. The paint is cracking all over. |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by jamieb on Jan 12, 2021 17:16:21 GMT 1, If you showed me the car boot one and the one with PC POA for the first time today and asked me which was painted 18 years I would say the car boot one. The one with POA honestly looks like it could have been painted yesterday and is a pristine as the day it was painted. I am not infering anything by this at all, just that's it's mad how different things can look. I understand your point but the certified one doesn't exactly look pristine. The paint is cracking all over.
only on the black and this crazing can happen on application if you apply the paint too thick and the solvents evaporate quickly causing the crazing or before the coat underneath is dry. This doesn't show that it's old.
www.hellopractical.com/why-does-spray-paint-crackle/
If you showed me the car boot one and the one with PC POA for the first time today and asked me which was painted 18 years I would say the car boot one. The one with POA honestly looks like it could have been painted yesterday and is a pristine as the day it was painted. I am not infering anything by this at all, just that's it's mad how different things can look. I understand your point but the certified one doesn't exactly look pristine. The paint is cracking all over. only on the black and this crazing can happen on application if you apply the paint too thick and the solvents evaporate quickly causing the crazing or before the coat underneath is dry. This doesn't show that it's old. www.hellopractical.com/why-does-spray-paint-crackle/ |
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by iamzero on Jan 12, 2021 17:47:06 GMT 1, Once again the white areas on the car boot one is painted. White areas on original versions appears to be the primed canvas.
Once again the white areas on the car boot one is painted. White areas on original versions appears to be the primed canvas.
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Banksy Keep It Real small canvas, by pfffffffffft on Jan 12, 2021 20:32:30 GMT 1, I'm going to throw this out there...
Years ago...probably 10-ish years ago I was friendly with a member here here that had a very early small canvas. I think it may have been a Heavy Weaponry but not 100% sure, it was definitely that era.
He wanted to sell it so he went to try to get a certificate from PC and they told him something along the lines of "the artist wasn't happy with that piece" or similar language and they were going to decline to issue a COA. They didn't come out and say it was authentic but they also didn't say it wasn't. They offered to swap it with him for a print, I can't remember which one. I also remember telling him to request another canvas of the same size. (it was very small) He was also asked not to publicize it.
We both wondered if there was a much smaller scale backdoor print issue for canvas editions at the time. I don't know if that is at play with this work but just wanted to mention this as there may be some members closer to that camp with more knowledge that this might ping their memory.
I'm going to throw this out there...
Years ago...probably 10-ish years ago I was friendly with a member here here that had a very early small canvas. I think it may have been a Heavy Weaponry but not 100% sure, it was definitely that era.
He wanted to sell it so he went to try to get a certificate from PC and they told him something along the lines of "the artist wasn't happy with that piece" or similar language and they were going to decline to issue a COA. They didn't come out and say it was authentic but they also didn't say it wasn't. They offered to swap it with him for a print, I can't remember which one. I also remember telling him to request another canvas of the same size. (it was very small) He was also asked not to publicize it.
We both wondered if there was a much smaller scale backdoor print issue for canvas editions at the time. I don't know if that is at play with this work but just wanted to mention this as there may be some members closer to that camp with more knowledge that this might ping their memory.
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