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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by nina79 on May 10, 2021 10:44:17 GMT 1, On the 5th October 2018 Banksyโs Balloon Girl captured the worldโs attention. As the hammer went down at auction house Sothebyโs on the ยฃ860,000 piece, we watched in astonishment as the Balloon Girl began to shred. Many called it a โstuntโ; a wonderful piece of marketing. Others questioned how this could have happened and cried โfakeโ.
One person who felt this was all a little dubious is street artist JPS who is adamant that something very fishy went on that day and has been continuing ever since. Claims of back dated artworks and false certificates of authenticity (COAs) by Pest Control are at the centre of this ongoing controversy.
We spoke directly to JPS to find out more about what is going on with Banksy and Sothebyโsโฆ
โThe starting point for me was the infamous shredder stunt. Although both Banksy and Sothebyโs strenuously deny being in cahoots (because that would be illegal), I firmly believe both parties were in on the stunt. But, putting the whole โhow did the shredder frame make it past securityโ type questions to one side, the bigger issue for me is that I believe the piece was falsely dated by 12 yearsโ, explains JPS.
According to JPS, the alleged record breaking piece was not a 2006 Balloon Girl at all but a falsely dated newer version of the famous artwork. The timeline below, given to us by JPS, shows why he believes this is the case:
As you can see from the timeline, the 2006 version marked with a red dot is clearly a lot crisper than its 2005 and 2007 counterparts. In fact it would be fair to say that it is more alike to the later 2017 and 2020 versions.
If JPS is in fact correct, the infamous work. now residing in a German museum on permanent loan, was therefore purchased with a false back dated history.
Sothebyโs Alex Branczik made a statement attempting to quash any claims of wrong doing by stating that the piece wasnโt a 2006 work at all but a brand new 2018 version and yet at the time the hammer went down it had been sold as a 2006 work.
And it didnโt stop thereโฆ
JPS also claims that the next part of the Balloon Girl puzzle was brought to his attention when Banksy bought a rescue boat and the Balloon Girl appeared on the side of it.
โAfter seeing the version on the side of the boat and comparing it to the alleged 2006 one I am positive it was back dated, also in the 3 days after this, Banksyโs Instagram account grew from 1.8m to over 6m and once again his prices began breaking records. In 2017 Balloon Girl was voted the most popular piece of UK art and I firmly believe this is why this fresh faced version appeared at Sothebyโs โ, said JPS.
In 2020, to make a point of his frustration, JPS created a piece of art titled โOutta Timeโ which featured his own version of Banksyโs Balloon Girl holding a COA and stood next to a Back to the Future DeLorean.
At this point, it would be very easy to simply accuse JPS of just being bitter and a little jealous of Banksyโs fame but, as JPS put it, โI feel people are being ripped off and lied to. If Banksy and Sothebyโs are fabricating histories for these pieces then buyers are investing huge sums of money into false works. If Pest Control are issuing certificates of authenticity falsely dating pieces by 12 years then how can they have any credibility?โ
JPS believes that the Balloon Girl stunt in 2018 was just the beginning of a sophisticated operation between Banksy and Sothebyโs where new works are given a back dated history and COA and urges potential buyers to look closely, ask questions and think twice before investing.
When JPS first approached us with his findings we found it all a little overwhelming to be honest, but, when you look at the timeline you can understand why questions are being asked, and if this does have a false history, questions about other works start to be raised.
As weโve said in previous articles, when huge sums of money are at stake who knows what people are capable of.
Before writing this article JPS stated that he contacted Banksy, Sothebyโs and Banksyโs PR agent Jo Brooks regarding the accusationโฆ he heard nothing.
On the 5th October 2018 Banksyโs Balloon Girl captured the worldโs attention. As the hammer went down at auction house Sothebyโs on the ยฃ860,000 piece, we watched in astonishment as the Balloon Girl began to shred. Many called it a โstuntโ; a wonderful piece of marketing. Others questioned how this could have happened and cried โfakeโ. One person who felt this was all a little dubious is street artist JPS who is adamant that something very fishy went on that day and has been continuing ever since. Claims of back dated artworks and false certificates of authenticity (COAs) by Pest Control are at the centre of this ongoing controversy. We spoke directly to JPS to find out more about what is going on with Banksy and Sothebyโsโฆ โThe starting point for me was the infamous shredder stunt. Although both Banksy and Sothebyโs strenuously deny being in cahoots (because that would be illegal), I firmly believe both parties were in on the stunt. But, putting the whole โhow did the shredder frame make it past securityโ type questions to one side, the bigger issue for me is that I believe the piece was falsely dated by 12 yearsโ, explains JPS. According to JPS, the alleged record breaking piece was not a 2006 Balloon Girl at all but a falsely dated newer version of the famous artwork. The timeline below, given to us by JPS, shows why he believes this is the case: As you can see from the timeline, the 2006 version marked with a red dot is clearly a lot crisper than its 2005 and 2007 counterparts. In fact it would be fair to say that it is more alike to the later 2017 and 2020 versions. If JPS is in fact correct, the infamous work. now residing in a German museum on permanent loan, was therefore purchased with a false back dated history. Sothebyโs Alex Branczik made a statement attempting to quash any claims of wrong doing by stating that the piece wasnโt a 2006 work at all but a brand new 2018 version and yet at the time the hammer went down it had been sold as a 2006 work. And it didnโt stop thereโฆ JPS also claims that the next part of the Balloon Girl puzzle was brought to his attention when Banksy bought a rescue boat and the Balloon Girl appeared on the side of it. โAfter seeing the version on the side of the boat and comparing it to the alleged 2006 one I am positive it was back dated, also in the 3 days after this, Banksyโs Instagram account grew from 1.8m to over 6m and once again his prices began breaking records. In 2017 Balloon Girl was voted the most popular piece of UK art and I firmly believe this is why this fresh faced version appeared at Sothebyโs โ, said JPS. In 2020, to make a point of his frustration, JPS created a piece of art titled โOutta Timeโ which featured his own version of Banksyโs Balloon Girl holding a COA and stood next to a Back to the Future DeLorean. At this point, it would be very easy to simply accuse JPS of just being bitter and a little jealous of Banksyโs fame but, as JPS put it, โI feel people are being ripped off and lied to. If Banksy and Sothebyโs are fabricating histories for these pieces then buyers are investing huge sums of money into false works. If Pest Control are issuing certificates of authenticity falsely dating pieces by 12 years then how can they have any credibility?โ JPS believes that the Balloon Girl stunt in 2018 was just the beginning of a sophisticated operation between Banksy and Sothebyโs where new works are given a back dated history and COA and urges potential buyers to look closely, ask questions and think twice before investing. When JPS first approached us with his findings we found it all a little overwhelming to be honest, but, when you look at the timeline you can understand why questions are being asked, and if this does have a false history, questions about other works start to be raised. As weโve said in previous articles, when huge sums of money are at stake who knows what people are capable of. Before writing this article JPS stated that he contacted Banksy, Sothebyโs and Banksyโs PR agent Jo Brooks regarding the accusationโฆ he heard nothing. |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by nina79 on May 10, 2021 10:58:37 GMT 1, Still a Banksy at the end of the day.
There are a couple new items coming up in auction from Sotheby's that have back dated! That's fraud mister!
Still a Banksy at the end of the day. So you would be happy with a back dated COA? That's illegal! The piece wasn't from 2006 but it's stated on the COA from Pest Control Office. There are a couple new items coming up in auction from Sotheby's that have back dated! That's fraud mister! |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by u%hdjfka c on May 10, 2021 11:01:11 GMT 1, This is not really news. Pretty obvious the painting was back dated and the story about being 'acquired by the original owner from Banksy was false. This was needed for the stunt to work. There's video of Banksy test shredding another example before putting it into auction. Remember: it was meant to be destroyed completely. As it wasn't, the winning bidder kept it and it's now a retitled artwork with new date and will have new COA from Pest Control. Love is in the bin, 2018.
This is not really news. Pretty obvious the painting was back dated and the story about being 'acquired by the original owner from Banksy was false. This was needed for the stunt to work. There's video of Banksy test shredding another example before putting it into auction. Remember: it was meant to be destroyed completely. As it wasn't, the winning bidder kept it and it's now a retitled artwork with new date and will have new COA from Pest Control. Love is in the bin, 2018.
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by Majestic on May 10, 2021 11:15:27 GMT 1, Yawn.
Yawn.
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by dumbo on May 10, 2021 11:17:35 GMT 1, Given Jo Brooks entered it she would know but who cares.
Given Jo Brooks entered it she would know but who cares.
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by nina79 on May 10, 2021 11:20:43 GMT 1, Oh no! The West Country Prince is reacting. The person that sells Banksy fakes for a living! I think nobody is waiting for your opinion.
The film also shows that 2006 isn't possible! No single battery will have power for 12 years mate. It's a fraud from the beginning. And Sotheby's was in it as well.
Oh no! The West Country Prince is reacting. The person that sells Banksy fakes for a living! I think nobody is waiting for your opinion.
The film also shows that 2006 isn't possible! No single battery will have power for 12 years mate. It's a fraud from the beginning. And Sotheby's was in it as well.
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by nina79 on May 10, 2021 11:21:52 GMT 1, So it's no problem that art is back dated and sold as a 2006 piece? It's 12 year later!
So it's no problem that art is back dated and sold as a 2006 piece? It's 12 year later!
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by u%hdjfka c on May 10, 2021 11:23:14 GMT 1, Oh no! The West Country Prince is reacting. The person that sells Banksy fakes for a living! I think nobody is waiting for your opinion. The film also shows that 2006 isn't possible! No single battery will have power for 12 years mate. It's a fraud from the beginning. And Sotheby's was in it as well.
Oh no! The West Country Prince is reacting. The person that sells Banksy fakes for a living! I think nobody is waiting for your opinion. The film also shows that 2006 isn't possible! No single battery will have power for 12 years mate. It's a fraud from the beginning. And Sotheby's was in it as well. You're a very confused and not very bright individual. |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by Deleted on May 10, 2021 11:23:39 GMT 1, Ha ha criticise banksy at your peril in this place. To many people with to much money at stake to even consider the truth.
Every good auction result is plastered all over the site, when the auctions tank as they have been recently - radio silence.
Itโs a banksy wanksy festival
Ha ha criticise banksy at your peril in this place. To many people with to much money at stake to even consider the truth.
Every good auction result is plastered all over the site, when the auctions tank as they have been recently - radio silence.
Itโs a banksy wanksy festival
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by slevin on May 10, 2021 11:24:58 GMT 1, The back dating is a part of the art and the story to sell the whole stunt. It's obvious to everyone it's a modern stencil. What an idiotic thing to call out.
The back dating is a part of the art and the story to sell the whole stunt. It's obvious to everyone it's a modern stencil. What an idiotic thing to call out.
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by themenya6 on May 10, 2021 11:26:34 GMT 1, And what do you stand to gain from all of this?
Did you wake up this morning thinking this will be received well?
Next please...
And what do you stand to gain from all of this?
Did you wake up this morning thinking this will be received well?
Next please...
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by Arty Farty 15 on May 10, 2021 11:45:53 GMT 1, My word this is pathetic. The sooner the government stops furlough the sooner people will hopefully get back to real work and have less time on their hands.
My word this is pathetic. The sooner the government stops furlough the sooner people will hopefully get back to real work and have less time on their hands.
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by Deleted on May 10, 2021 11:53:49 GMT 1, Ha ha criticise banksy at your peril in this place. To many people with to much money at stake to even consider the truth. Every good auction result is plastered all over the site, when the auctions tank as they have been recently - radio silence. Itโs a banksy wanksy festival
Sort of like you with your Flying Copper & Sale Ends prints.
SO IRONIC
Ha ha criticise banksy at your peril in this place. To many people with to much money at stake to even consider the truth. Every good auction result is plastered all over the site, when the auctions tank as they have been recently - radio silence. Itโs a banksy wanksy festival Sort of like you with your Flying Copper & Sale Ends prints. SO IRONIC |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by vernaxley on May 10, 2021 11:58:13 GMT 1,
Tortuous post for a tortuous piece of second-rate work. JPS: great stencilist, very average artist.
Tortuous post for a tortuous piece of second-rate work. JPS: great stencilist, very average artist.
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by rosac on May 10, 2021 12:02:41 GMT 1, Youโve got too much time on your hands Nina
Youโve got too much time on your hands Nina
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by silvermyn on May 10, 2021 12:05:29 GMT 1, So it's no problem that art is back dated and sold as a 2006 piece? It's 12 year later!
However, the pre-shedded piece was not meant to be sold as such. The COA (if there actually was one) was never going to be valid or supported by PC in the longer term. They knew that the piece that went onto the rostrum wasnโt going to survive the day. The COA was as much of a marketing tool for the stunt as the pre-shredded piece itself.
Once the piece was shredded, I doubt that anyone was going to fork out that much for a pile of shredded canvas so the COA claim was irrelevant. Unfortunately, the piece didnโt completely self destruct and the high bidder actually wanted it in the end. Hence why you have a COA for the final piece which is dated 2018; the date the piece was completed.
IMHO the original COA claim wasnโt meant to mislead anyone because the pre-shredded piece wasnโt for sale as such. The wording in the auction catalogue about a COA simply became part of the stunt.
PC arenโt in the business of issuing fraudulent documents. Their credibility is a critical part of their role.
So it's no problem that art is back dated and sold as a 2006 piece? It's 12 year later! A COA is meant to be confirmation from the artist of the period of their career to which the work relates. So, I completely agree with you on that aspect. If the work wasnโt created in 2006, then you cannot โcertifyโ that it dates from 2006. However, the pre-shedded piece was not meant to be sold as such. The COA (if there actually was one) was never going to be valid or supported by PC in the longer term. They knew that the piece that went onto the rostrum wasnโt going to survive the day. The COA was as much of a marketing tool for the stunt as the pre-shredded piece itself. Once the piece was shredded, I doubt that anyone was going to fork out that much for a pile of shredded canvas so the COA claim was irrelevant. Unfortunately, the piece didnโt completely self destruct and the high bidder actually wanted it in the end. Hence why you have a COA for the final piece which is dated 2018; the date the piece was completed. IMHO the original COA claim wasnโt meant to mislead anyone because the pre-shredded piece wasnโt for sale as such. The wording in the auction catalogue about a COA simply became part of the stunt. PC arenโt in the business of issuing fraudulent documents. Their credibility is a critical part of their role. |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by Happy Shopper on May 10, 2021 12:20:40 GMT 1, LOL... None of this is new info. JPS just wants some attention! 
Banksy showed the artwork being created in a video! It's already been discussed on here how he did it, that it was submitted by Jo Brooks, and obviously wasn't from the date on the COA... That was all to fool Sotheby's to take the piece (or they were in cahoots, but we can't really know that part.)
And who cares?
It was a funny stunt, however you see it, and the buyer decided to keep it after learning the facts. So no harm was done.
LOL... None of this is new info. JPS just wants some attention! Banksy showed the artwork being created in a video! It's already been discussed on here how he did it, that it was submitted by Jo Brooks, and obviously wasn't from the date on the COA... That was all to fool Sotheby's to take the piece (or they were in cahoots, but we can't really know that part.) And who cares? It was a funny stunt, however you see it, and the buyer decided to keep it after learning the facts. So no harm was done. |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by tonys on May 10, 2021 12:24:11 GMT 1, Some people are forgetting that Banksy is a master prankster first and foremost. Of course, it wasn't legit, he was out to fool the auction houses. It would have been better if it was Morons personally speaking.
Some people are forgetting that Banksy is a master prankster first and foremost. Of course, it wasn't legit, he was out to fool the auction houses. It would have been better if it was Morons personally speaking.
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by Horatio Nelson on May 10, 2021 12:55:57 GMT 1, Apparently the banknotes used for the Di Faced tenners arenโt real either !
Apparently the banknotes used for the Di Faced tenners arenโt real either !
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by irl1 on May 10, 2021 12:59:19 GMT 1, Still a Banksy at the end of the day. So you would be happy with a back dated COA? That's illegal! The piece wasn't from 2006 but it's stated on the COA from Pest Control Office. There are a couple new items coming up in auction from Sotheby's that have back dated! That's fraud mister!
Good girl nina, can't wait for your next thread.
At least you woke this place up again, well done Mrs/Miss 
Still a Banksy at the end of the day. So you would be happy with a back dated COA? That's illegal! The piece wasn't from 2006 but it's stated on the COA from Pest Control Office. There are a couple new items coming up in auction from Sotheby's that have back dated! That's fraud mister! Good girl nina, can't wait for your next thread. At least you woke this place up again, well done Mrs/Miss |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by Sebastian Dusseldorf on May 10, 2021 13:09:46 GMT 1, Still a Banksy at the end of the day. So you would be happy with a back dated COA? That's illegal! The piece wasn't from 2006 but it's stated on the COA from Pest Control Office.ย There are a couple new items coming up in auction from Sotheby's that have back dated! That's fraud mister!ย
You are right. It's illegal. This individual needs to be stopped. What's he gonna do next? Graffiti???
Still a Banksy at the end of the day. So you would be happy with a back dated COA? That's illegal! The piece wasn't from 2006 but it's stated on the COA from Pest Control Office.ย There are a couple new items coming up in auction from Sotheby's that have back dated! That's fraud mister!ย You are right. It's illegal. This individual needs to be stopped. What's he gonna do next? Graffiti??? |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by x28 on May 10, 2021 13:09:52 GMT 1, Wow! So much love for Banksy in this room, I mean Banksy could commit a murder and some of the sycophants here wouldn't so much as bat an eyelid! Fraud is fraud or in this case manipulation of the mass of idol followers who blindly believe what they are told.
Wow! So much love for Banksy in this room, I mean Banksy could commit a murder and some of the sycophants here wouldn't so much as bat an eyelid! Fraud is fraud or in this case manipulation of the mass of idol followers who blindly believe what they are told.
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by Deleted on May 10, 2021 13:13:27 GMT 1, Ha ha criticise banksy at your peril in this place. To many people with to much money at stake to even consider the truth. Every good auction result is plastered all over the site, when the auctions tank as they have been recently - radio silence. Itโs a banksy wanksy festival Sort of like you with your Flying Copper & Sale Ends prints.ย SO IRONIC
You might want google ironic. Whilst I may own a couple of banksys I have a very balanced opinion of his market and the manipulation that surrounds it. I donโt ignore the full truth and only yap when something good happens. We all gotta invest somewhere and I bought banksy when he was investible. The poor fools who bought in the last 6 months got burnt by the market manipulation.. unsigned GWB results have dropped how much?
Ha ha criticise banksy at your peril in this place. To many people with to much money at stake to even consider the truth. Every good auction result is plastered all over the site, when the auctions tank as they have been recently - radio silence. Itโs a banksy wanksy festival Sort of like you with your Flying Copper & Sale Ends prints.ย SO IRONIC You might want google ironic. Whilst I may own a couple of banksys I have a very balanced opinion of his market and the manipulation that surrounds it. I donโt ignore the full truth and only yap when something good happens. We all gotta invest somewhere and I bought banksy when he was investible. The poor fools who bought in the last 6 months got burnt by the market manipulation.. unsigned GWB results have dropped how much? |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by Terry Fuckwitt on May 10, 2021 13:17:49 GMT 1, Sort of like you with your Flying Copper & Sale Ends prints.ย SO IRONIC You might want google ironic. Whilst I may own a couple of banksys I have a very balanced opinion of his market and the manipulation that surrounds it. I donโt ignore the full truth and only yap when something good happens. We all gotta invest somewhere and I bought banksy when he was investible. The poor fools who bought in the last 6 months got burnt by the market manipulation.. unsigned Girl With Balloon results have dropped how much?
Nice to see you learnt your lesson from buying Pejac at peak prices๐คฃ
Sort of like you with your Flying Copper & Sale Ends prints.ย SO IRONIC You might want google ironic. Whilst I may own a couple of banksys I have a very balanced opinion of his market and the manipulation that surrounds it. I donโt ignore the full truth and only yap when something good happens. We all gotta invest somewhere and I bought banksy when he was investible. The poor fools who bought in the last 6 months got burnt by the market manipulation.. unsigned Girl With Balloon results have dropped how much? Nice to see you learnt your lesson from buying Pejac at peak prices๐คฃ |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by silvermyn on May 10, 2021 13:35:11 GMT 1, Some people will never understand what โno one caresโ means. one thing youll never hear, โJPS showed that Banksy guy didnt heโ. Attention seeking taken to stalker like levels by JPS. I bet it keeps Banksy awake at night, not. As others have said, yawn.
I don't think he's attention seeking. To me, it seems to be a genuine concern about the certification process. Something we should all be concerned about if we're relying on PC certification?
In this instance it seems to be a simple misunderstanding about what was certified /claimed to be certified and what the true purpose of the alleged certification was.
A lot of effort and detective work which in itself is quite impressive. But failed to recognise that the COA was part of the stunt. The COA, if it existed, was also probably in a frame that shredded it 
Personally, if I was at PC, I would have avoided getting involved in this stunt. Maybe state that a COA is pending and leave it at that. PC should IMHO always remain completely above board to protect their reputation from any of these sorts of allegations. I know this isn't possible in reality because Banksy is a bit of a cheeky rascal...
Some people will never understand what โno one caresโ means. one thing youll never hear, โJPS showed that Banksy guy didnt heโ. Attention seeking taken to stalker like levels by JPS. I bet it keeps Banksy awake at night, not. As others have said, yawn. I don't think he's attention seeking. To me, it seems to be a genuine concern about the certification process. Something we should all be concerned about if we're relying on PC certification? In this instance it seems to be a simple misunderstanding about what was certified /claimed to be certified and what the true purpose of the alleged certification was. A lot of effort and detective work which in itself is quite impressive. But failed to recognise that the COA was part of the stunt. The COA, if it existed, was also probably in a frame that shredded it Personally, if I was at PC, I would have avoided getting involved in this stunt. Maybe state that a COA is pending and leave it at that. PC should IMHO always remain completely above board to protect their reputation from any of these sorts of allegations. I know this isn't possible in reality because Banksy is a bit of a cheeky rascal... |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by Happy Shopper on May 10, 2021 13:43:17 GMT 1, Wow! So much love for Banksy in this room, I mean Banksy could commit a murder and some of the sycophants here wouldn't so much as bat an eyelid! Fraud is fraud or in this case manipulation of the mass of idol followers who blindly believe what they are told.
Another account? How clever! ๐
Pointing out something is already known, and doesnโt actually matter, is hardly being a sycophant.
The only people fooled were Sothebyโs.. big crime๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ๐
Wow! So much love for Banksy in this room, I mean Banksy could commit a murder and some of the sycophants here wouldn't so much as bat an eyelid! Fraud is fraud or in this case manipulation of the mass of idol followers who blindly believe what they are told. Another account? How clever! ๐
Pointing out something is already known, and doesnโt actually matter, is hardly being a sycophant. The only people fooled were Sothebyโs.. big crime๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ๐ |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by LJCal on May 10, 2021 13:44:25 GMT 1, I can't believe someone is so salty to go to these lengths. I think most people appreciate this was a PR stunt so who cares, especially 3 years later.
I can't believe someone is so salty to go to these lengths. I think most people appreciate this was a PR stunt so who cares, especially 3 years later.
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by mohawk21 on May 10, 2021 14:15:39 GMT 1, Apparently the banknotes used for the Di Faced tenners arenโt real either !
I donโt know why we havenโt had a full investigation into this. If these were not real then how is banksy even real....
My mind is truly blown and I donโt think Iโll ever trust again.....
Apparently the banknotes used for the Di Faced tenners arenโt real either ! I donโt know why we havenโt had a full investigation into this. If these were not real then how is banksy even real.... My mind is truly blown and I donโt think Iโll ever trust again..... |
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by vethar on May 10, 2021 14:19:03 GMT 1,
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Shredded Girl with Balloon - One Big Fraud, by Horatio Nelson on May 10, 2021 14:28:29 GMT 1, I am absolutely fine with an artist making a fake certificate for a work of art if the certificate and work are essentially components of bigger work of art whose entire purpose is to fool the world at large.
I am absolutely fine with an artist making a fake certificate for a work of art if the certificate and work are essentially components of bigger work of art whose entire purpose is to fool the world at large.
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