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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by irl1 on Jun 14, 2021 22:31:44 GMT 1, Wendero I deleted my post as you had quoted me by mistake 
Wendero I deleted my post as you had quoted me by mistake |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by LJCal on Jun 14, 2021 23:28:27 GMT 1, My Bridget Riley Chicago 8 print up in the Philips day sale tomorrow following on from the evening sake tomorrow. £5-7k estimate. Been told it will do well by Philips but you never know at auction. If you are thinking of bidding it’s going to a good cause ( ie me - only kidding) www.phillips.com/detail/bridget-riley/UK030221/317No snide comments tomorrow when it fails to sell !!!!!!!!
My Bridget Riley Chicago 8 print up in the Philips day sale tomorrow following on from the evening sake tomorrow. £5-7k estimate. Been told it will do well by Philips but you never know at auction. If you are thinking of bidding it’s going to a good cause ( ie me - only kidding) www.phillips.com/detail/bridget-riley/UK030221/317No snide comments tomorrow when it fails to sell !!!!!!!! It's a nice one, although her market has cooled a tiny bit (after very strong growth in last 12 months), I'd say it will comfortably exceed the high estimate, I'd guess £8-12k hammer subject to no disasters. The La Lune sold for £12k hammer which is about right I'd say, although lower than the outlier result earlier in the year making £20k hammer. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by covertshadowops on Jun 14, 2021 23:40:33 GMT 1, Good strong result for Jonas Wood on the 4 majors print set.
His market is slowly picking back up IMO
Good strong result for Jonas Wood on the 4 majors print set.
His market is slowly picking back up IMO
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by teabaggins on Jun 15, 2021 0:26:20 GMT 1, Good strong result for Jonas Wood on the 4 majors print set. His market is slowly picking back up IMO
Good strong result for Jonas Wood on the 4 majors print set. His market is slowly picking back up IMO Would be nice to see a rebound. That’s a great set (his best imo) interesting how his sales have deflated over the last few years. (Puns intended) |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Georgie Poppit on Jun 15, 2021 8:32:33 GMT 1, Second half of the auction today. Lots of Hockneys and Emins. Love that Riley.
Second half of the auction today. Lots of Hockneys and Emins. Love that Riley.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by JFCC on Jun 15, 2021 9:35:36 GMT 1, Yesterday was a breath of fresh air, a very balanced catalogue and an excellent auctioneer who worked the room, online and the phones exceptionally well, clearly and fairly.
The Banksy prices were pretty good and as expected, coming in at the same level as September with good bidding.
WSM u/s was the one mistake that Phillips made, why they included a poor condition, weaker, unsigned print amongst four very good ones is a mystery, or perhaps it was just commission greed and they couldn't help themselves!!
Yesterday was a breath of fresh air, a very balanced catalogue and an excellent auctioneer who worked the room, online and the phones exceptionally well, clearly and fairly.
The Banksy prices were pretty good and as expected, coming in at the same level as September with good bidding.
WSM u/s was the one mistake that Phillips made, why they included a poor condition, weaker, unsigned print amongst four very good ones is a mystery, or perhaps it was just commission greed and they couldn't help themselves!!
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by u%hdjfka c on Jun 15, 2021 9:55:33 GMT 1, WSM Unsigned was the one mistake that Phillips made, why they included a poor condition, weaker, unsigned print amongst four very good ones is a mystery, or perhaps it was just commission greed and they couldn't help themselves!!
Because you own one? Their job is to sell things consigned to them. And that is what they did. WSM is weak print regardless of condition.
WSM Unsigned was the one mistake that Phillips made, why they included a poor condition, weaker, unsigned print amongst four very good ones is a mystery, or perhaps it was just commission greed and they couldn't help themselves!! Because you own one? Their job is to sell things consigned to them. And that is what they did. WSM is weak print regardless of condition. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Dubman on Jun 15, 2021 16:05:04 GMT 1, This is how to do an auction (and everyone is beautiful in the room).
Some good results, Shrigley 'Rampage' AP coming in strong..
She's a Machine!
This is how to do an auction (and everyone is beautiful in the room).
Some good results, Shrigley 'Rampage' AP coming in strong..
She's a Machine!
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Dubman on Jun 15, 2021 16:06:17 GMT 1, Big up the Watford massive!
Big up the Watford massive!
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by theclash on Jun 15, 2021 16:19:58 GMT 1, Go on the Grayson Piggy Bank. 2.2k hammer!!
Go on the Grayson Piggy Bank. 2.2k hammer!!
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Dubman on Jun 15, 2021 16:22:09 GMT 1, Go on the Grayson Piggy Bank. 2.2k hammer!!
Go on the Piggy bank (not a phrase i ever imagined writing).
Go on the Grayson Piggy Bank. 2.2k hammer!! I definitely bought one last week for £220 direct.. Go on the Piggy bank (not a phrase i ever imagined writing). |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by laughn0w on Jun 15, 2021 16:44:44 GMT 1, No commentary from this one?
Results seemed quite strong:
Signed Love Rat:£101.25k
Signed Bomb Hugger: £94.5k
U/S Happy Chopper: £48.6k
Signed Laugh Now: £162k
U/S WSM: £17.55k (poor condition)
No commentary from this one?
Results seemed quite strong:
Signed Love Rat:£101.25k
Signed Bomb Hugger: £94.5k
U/S Happy Chopper: £48.6k
Signed Laugh Now: £162k
U/S WSM: £17.55k (poor condition)
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by billybob1969 on Jun 15, 2021 17:09:38 GMT 1, Watching this it looks like quite a few artists markets are cooling off, with the exception of a few it looks like the market as a whole has come down from earlier in the year.
Watching this it looks like quite a few artists markets are cooling off, with the exception of a few it looks like the market as a whole has come down from earlier in the year.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by JFCC on Jun 15, 2021 19:06:19 GMT 1, WSM Unsigned was the one mistake that Phillips made, why they included a poor condition, weaker, unsigned print amongst four very good ones is a mystery, or perhaps it was just commission greed and they couldn't help themselves!! Because you own one? Their job is to sell things consigned to them. And that is what they did. Weston Super Mare is weak print regardless of condition.
No it was not a good fit with the rest of the catalogue which was well constructed and appropriately diverse, hence the prices returned were pretty good overall with few items passed. Further it did not complement the other 4 Banksy prints that were sold because of that and because of it's condition.
The last item in the auction shouldn't leave you flat and should not look like it was shoe horned in. They are a very professional House and should have put it in different auction or suggested politely that the client may have been returned more elsewhere.
WSM Unsigned was the one mistake that Phillips made, why they included a poor condition, weaker, unsigned print amongst four very good ones is a mystery, or perhaps it was just commission greed and they couldn't help themselves!! Because you own one? Their job is to sell things consigned to them. And that is what they did. Weston Super Mare is weak print regardless of condition. Not sure of your point? I own a signed Weston Super Mare yes. Regardless it is one of the bigger editions and in my view one of the weaker images, but I like it all the same. No it was not a good fit with the rest of the catalogue which was well constructed and appropriately diverse, hence the prices returned were pretty good overall with few items passed. Further it did not complement the other 4 Banksy prints that were sold because of that and because of it's condition. The last item in the auction shouldn't leave you flat and should not look like it was shoe horned in. They are a very professional House and should have put it in different auction or suggested politely that the client may have been returned more elsewhere. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by sandworm on Jun 15, 2021 20:22:31 GMT 1, Curious to where are you getting your numbers from?
I'm looking at the Philips website which states
Signed Love Rat:£94,500
Signed Bomb Hugger: £88,200
Unsigned Happy Chopper: £45,360
Signed Laugh Now: £151,200
Unsigned Weston Super Mare: £16,380
I'm probably missing something but, the prices on their website aren't hammer prices as I bid on a Riley last night which ended up going for £12,000 hammer price and is now listed as sold for: £15,120 e.g. hammer price + 26% (VAT and commission).
Curious to where are you getting your numbers from?
I'm looking at the Philips website which states
Signed Love Rat:£94,500
Signed Bomb Hugger: £88,200
Unsigned Happy Chopper: £45,360
Signed Laugh Now: £151,200
Unsigned Weston Super Mare: £16,380
I'm probably missing something but, the prices on their website aren't hammer prices as I bid on a Riley last night which ended up going for £12,000 hammer price and is now listed as sold for: £15,120 e.g. hammer price + 26% (VAT and commission).
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by The Rat King on Jun 15, 2021 20:23:14 GMT 1,
Aren’t these cheaper at source ?
Aren’t these cheaper at source ? |
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JFCC
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by JFCC on Jun 15, 2021 21:58:24 GMT 1, Curious to where are you getting your numbers from? I'm looking at the Philips website which states Signed Love Rat:£94,500 Signed Bomb Hugger: £88,200 Unsigned Happy Chopper: £45,360 Signed Laugh Now: £151,200 Unsigned Weston Super Mare: £16,380 I'm probably missing something but, the prices on their website aren't hammer prices as I bid on a Riley last night which ended up going for £12,000 hammer price and is now listed as sold for: £15,120 e.g. hammer price + 26% (VAT and commission).
They exclude VAT from their numbers
Curious to where are you getting your numbers from? I'm looking at the Philips website which states Signed Love Rat:£94,500 Signed Bomb Hugger: £88,200 Unsigned Happy Chopper: £45,360 Signed Laugh Now: £151,200 Unsigned Weston Super Mare: £16,380 I'm probably missing something but, the prices on their website aren't hammer prices as I bid on a Riley last night which ended up going for £12,000 hammer price and is now listed as sold for: £15,120 e.g. hammer price + 26% (VAT and commission). They exclude VAT from their numbers |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Bridget Riley 10 on Jun 15, 2021 22:37:17 GMT 1, My Riley Chicago 8 didn’t do too great.
Estimate £5-7k , went £7.5k hammer or £9.5k with commission.
Was hoping for more but such is life . Still made a profit on it but you live and learn. Like the bookies the auction house always wins. !!!!
My Riley Chicago 8 didn’t do too great.
Estimate £5-7k , went £7.5k hammer or £9.5k with commission.
Was hoping for more but such is life . Still made a profit on it but you live and learn. Like the bookies the auction house always wins. !!!!
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Jimini Cricket on Jun 15, 2021 22:57:45 GMT 1, My Riley Chicago 8 didn’t do too great. Estimate £5-7k , went £7.5k hammer or £9.5k with commission. Was hoping for more but such is life . Still made a profit on it but you live and learn. Like the bookies the auction house always wins. !!!!
Lol, and you wanted £16k.
Gawsh, reality must be sobering.
My Riley Chicago 8 didn’t do too great. Estimate £5-7k , went £7.5k hammer or £9.5k with commission. Was hoping for more but such is life . Still made a profit on it but you live and learn. Like the bookies the auction house always wins. !!!! Lol, and you wanted £16k. Gawsh, reality must be sobering. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Georgie Poppit on Jun 15, 2021 22:58:32 GMT 1, It’s nice when the auction route pays off but when it doesn’t it’s shite
It’s nice when the auction route pays off but when it doesn’t it’s shite
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by billybob1969 on Jun 15, 2021 23:17:43 GMT 1, My Riley Chicago 8 didn’t do too great. Estimate £5-7k , went £7.5k hammer or £9.5k with commission. Was hoping for more but such is life . Still made a profit on it but you live and learn. Like the bookies the auction house always wins. !!!!
My Riley Chicago 8 didn’t do too great. Estimate £5-7k , went £7.5k hammer or £9.5k with commission. Was hoping for more but such is life . Still made a profit on it but you live and learn. Like the bookies the auction house always wins. !!!! I think the 2nd half of the auction was much more subdued than the evening sale, definately seeing certain artists cooling off as well, Riley and Emin in particular seem to have seen price falls recently. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Jimini Cricket on Jun 15, 2021 23:55:26 GMT 1, Well this has got to sting...
You got greedy.
Hello everyone. Apologies not replied on here . Looked just now and had 8 different people private messaging me who are interested , some making offers. The one that sold yesterday in USA doesn’t look in great condition to me but maybe someone got a good deal . Looking for £15k . If I don’t get then will sell to the highest offer I get out the 8 people interested . Already 1 of them has offered £10k
Well this has got to sting... You got greedy. Hello everyone. Apologies not replied on here . Looked just now and had 8 different people private messaging me who are interested , some making offers. The one that sold yesterday in USA doesn’t look in great condition to me but maybe someone got a good deal . Looking for £15k . If I don’t get then will sell to the highest offer I get out the 8 people interested . Already 1 of them has offered £10k |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Poster Bob on Jun 16, 2021 0:01:16 GMT 1, Yet again, everyone ignores seasonality 🤦. Just keep screaming that the sky is falling.
Yet again, everyone ignores seasonality 🤦. Just keep screaming that the sky is falling.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Poster Bob on Jun 16, 2021 0:23:17 GMT 1, 🤦
Yet again, everyone ignores seasonality 🤦. Just keep screaming that the sky is falling. You're also ignoring the pandemic
🤦 Yet again, everyone ignores seasonality 🤦. Just keep screaming that the sky is falling. You're also ignoring the pandemic |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Horatio Nelson on Jun 16, 2021 9:38:19 GMT 1, The price shown on the Phillips auction website ‘Sold for £xx’ is that the hammer price ? Or does it include buyers premium + vat ?
The price shown on the Phillips auction website ‘Sold for £xx’ is that the hammer price ? Or does it include buyers premium + vat ? Prices shown now (i.e. after auction closes) are with premium + vat. But prices shown while the auction is ongoing are just the hammer price. |
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by JFCC on Jun 16, 2021 11:09:32 GMT 1, Sorry to be a pedant but the calculation is
Hammer price + buyers premium + ARR = Auction house site price.
Price paid by a UK buyer is Hammer price + (Buyers premium +VAT) + ARR = UK price paid.
The hammer price was £70k, the non VAT price was £88.5k per the auction site and the fully paid price was £94.5k
Some countries will charge an import duty that will be similar to UK VAT
Sorry to be a pedant but the calculation is
Hammer price + buyers premium + ARR = Auction house site price.
Price paid by a UK buyer is Hammer price + (Buyers premium +VAT) + ARR = UK price paid.
The hammer price was £70k, the non VAT price was £88.5k per the auction site and the fully paid price was £94.5k
Some countries will charge an import duty that will be similar to UK VAT
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Eastend Boy 13 on Jun 16, 2021 11:31:37 GMT 1, Good results for this artist: resellers    Resellers 1; Art fans 0
Good results for this artist: resellersResellers 1; Art fans 0 The rampaging elephant is certainly popular! I wonder if this was an anomaly? |
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theclash
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by theclash on Jun 16, 2021 11:47:14 GMT 1, The rampaging elephant is certainly popular! I wonder if this was an anomaly?
I don’t own this one unfort but this is inline with previous sale price and often cited as his best print.
The rampaging elephant is certainly popular! I wonder if this was an anomaly? I don’t own this one unfort but this is inline with previous sale price and often cited as his best print. |
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